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2006-04-17 08:14:39 AM  
They're noy going to find it. It left town with integrity and humility.
 
2006-04-17 08:19:44 AM  
Men get no respect. Last time I let a chick hold my used tissue collection. They get all the breaks.


/I keed, I keed.
 
2006-04-17 08:22:06 AM  
I am not one to argue with how people run their lives. You do what you will so long as you don't step in the way of another persons freedoms. But, I personally feel compelled as a human being with respect for others, especially wemon, to give them the upper hand in some situations. Some as trivial as giving up my seat for them, opening a door. What is important to a lady, is important to me, especially their comfort and happiness. Few things are more important to me.

So they can do it for themselves. I know that, but would they be more comfortable? Yes? Then here, have my seat. OK, maybe I am presumptuous that it is appreciated, even if nothing is shown. I don't think that has a bearing on me doing it. If they truly didn't appreciate it or felt offended in any way, they have every right to say something. It won't stop me from the next chivalrous act.

It is in my own little way, a thank you, to the ladies of the world for all that you have done.

flame on
 
2006-04-17 08:27:45 AM  
jonasborg

Stop trying to get laid.

/kidding
 
2006-04-17 08:31:49 AM  
There is a difference between Civility and Politeness.
Politeness is that extra step of being nice to your fellow man, Civility is the bedrock of civilization. You don't have to be polite, but you do have to be civil.

As far as Chivalry though, it's a knee-jerk reflex for me. It's the nature of how I was raised and the things I was taught to do. My dad taught me those lessons well enough that they're automatic for me.
You hold doors for women, they sit first, etc.

And when you're like me, you get the added bonus of knowing you're annoying the more "liberated" females who expect the behaviour from you and expect the right to snipe at you for it at the same time.
 
2006-04-17 08:33:45 AM  
jonasborg: I personally feel compelled as a human being with respect for others, especially wemon,

Wemon! Rhymes with demon--I like it!!
 
2006-04-17 08:37:02 AM  
jonasborg

Stop trying to get laid.

/not kidding
 
2006-04-17 08:37:05 AM  
Vin Diesel

Rhymes with demon--I like it!!


I generally toss wee men. Maybe put them to work in my chocolate factory if they are a good fit.
 
2006-04-17 08:37:15 AM  
From TFA: "You want my seat and the right to vote? Forget it."
What a misogynistic cock - as if being polite has anything at all to do with equal right. Yes, the over-the-top feminists are to blame here, too, but to imply that in order for you to be polite to me I need to forfeit my right to vote and get back in the kitchen? F*ck.off.
 
2006-04-17 08:40:30 AM  
Onker: It's the nature of how I was raised and the things I was taught to do.

Ditto. It makes me sad to think that children aren't being raised these days to respect other people, regardless of sex or age. I feel like the only thing children are learning is that they need to look out for themselves because it is a big bad busy world and if they don't look out solely for themselves they'll be trampled. Most of the time when I hold a door or give up my seat, I receive a thank you and a smile. I am not in such a hurry in my life that I can't take a few moments to hold a door or endure the miniscule discomfort of having to stand a while. If it means I can bring a smile to somebody else's face or give them a moment when they can feel that not everybody in this world is too busy to look outside of themselves, then it's worth it. I only hope that they in turn pass along this same moment to others throughout their day.
 
2006-04-17 08:43:36 AM  
When a man can give birth, I'll open my own damn doors.
 
2006-04-17 08:43:45 AM  
If a woman has the bad form to criticize you for opening a door or giving up a seat, just tell her you did it because of her age, not her sex.
 
2006-04-17 08:44:33 AM  
Chivalry? Hell, I'd be happy if people would just say their pleases and thank yous once in a while.
 
2006-04-17 08:45:37 AM  
well, being chivalrous these days can often be interpreted as sexual harassment. sorry ladies, you're just another "one of the guys" now. not my fault.
 
2006-04-17 08:46:26 AM  
TheDumbBlonde: When a man can give birth, I'll open my own damn doors.

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2006-04-17 08:46:31 AM  
Women want men to be more sensitive but get turned off when that naturally entails being more vulnerable as well. That annoys me more than wanting special "chivalrous" treatment at the same time as equal treatment. Fortunately I haven't seen too many women actually giving a fart for chivalry in the past decade or two.

General respect and politeness, yeah, we could do with more of that everywhere. But I feel like a sap if I try being polite to people who're being rude to me. So the overall level of discourse gradually descends into the muck.

*hopeless shrug*
 
2006-04-17 08:48:27 AM  
See also: If you want me to behave like a gentleman, you should behave like a lady.
 
2006-04-17 08:48:57 AM  
TheDumbBlonde

When a man can give birth, I'll open my own damn doors.


Ahem.
(pops)
 
2006-04-17 08:49:33 AM  
YoungSwedishBlonde

WHY I OUGHTA!!
 
2006-04-17 08:53:47 AM  
The French invented Chivalry...... see how that worked out for them....
 
2006-04-17 08:54:17 AM  
StarshipPooper

But then they were able to build Knights Templar, so in the end it was all worth it.
 
2006-04-17 08:54:57 AM  
jonasborg: WHY I OUGHTA!!

I'm going to punch you in the ovaries. Right in the baby maker.
 
2006-04-17 08:55:15 AM  
Chivalry is still alive in parts of the South. I know I was taught it when I was little.
 
2006-04-17 08:55:33 AM  
Next thing you know they'll want us non-chivalrous types to not punch them in the face when they overcook our dinner.

NO DEAL
 
2006-04-17 08:55:40 AM  
I'll hold open doors for most anyone if I'm ahead of them, as no one likes a door getting slammed in their face irrespective of gender.

I've also been known to offer up my seat on a bus to an old dear/ bloke or pregnant woman, but not just because of their gender.
 
2006-04-17 08:56:36 AM  
It was killed by the feminist movement.
 
2006-04-17 08:57:36 AM  
Chivalry would be alive if women knew how to heat your damn sandwiches. Just ask that guy with the microwave.
 
2006-04-17 08:57:58 AM  
In high school a girl was doing a chivalry test and dropped a book near one of the male teachers. The teacher looked at her and knocked the rest of the books out of her hands. Ahhh, good times...
 
2006-04-17 08:58:16 AM  
The mutual agreements between the sexes that allow for chivalry have been replaced by equality.
 
2006-04-17 08:58:21 AM  
TheDumbBlonde:When a man can give birth, I'll open my own damn doors.

Unless you're giving birth to my children, you can just screw right the hell off.
 
2006-04-17 08:58:56 AM  
If you are looking for your lost chivalry, it's here in Texas.

/well, maybe not Dallas
 
2006-04-17 08:59:05 AM  
likelyculprit: It was killed by the feminist movement.

I kind of agree with that
 
2006-04-17 08:59:13 AM  
Women killed it.
 
2006-04-17 08:59:23 AM  
When a man can give birth, I'll open my own damn doors.


When you're giving birth, I'll open the door for you, how about that....?


Maybe the reason chivalry is dead is that women are much ruder than they used to be.


/ as a former roommate of mine used to say
// b*tches, man.... b*tches....
 
2006-04-17 08:59:43 AM  
I'm always opening doors for people with strollers and stuff.

It's interesting - when you're a woman and do that, people look surprised and thank you.

My husband, on the other hand, will open the door for someone, and end up stranded by a stream of people swarming through, none of whom thank him.
 
2006-04-17 09:00:02 AM  
Is chivalry like pink feudalism?
 
2006-04-17 09:01:18 AM  
I'll hold open doors for most anyone if I'm ahead of them, as no one likes a door getting slammed in their face irrespective of gender.

I've also been known to offer up my seat on a bus to an old dear/ bloke or pregnant woman, but not just because of their gender.


Exactly the same here. Also, on public transportation I avoid rushing to a seat if they are limited. I seldom get up for someone if I'm already seated, but if I'm standing I'll let others go before me, particularly ladies, I suppose.

 
2006-04-17 09:01:46 AM  
When a man can give birth, I'll open my own damn doors.


Ahem.
(pops)


I'm not clicking on that
 
2006-04-17 09:01:46 AM  
Disclaimer -

I generally will:

Hold Doors Open
Leave the Seat Down
Offer a Woman a Seat on a Bus/Train
Die in a Jousting Match for the Honor of My True Love


However, women who are b*tches, can go straight to Heck, M'Lady.
 
2006-04-17 09:03:01 AM  
Chivalry's lame. The only special treatment women get from me is stuff requiring muscle, and not often. Otherwise politeness gets distributed evenly (and not often). So have fun standing there, toots, you ain't getting my seat.
 
2006-04-17 09:03:37 AM  
tonkin

Yeah man - I wasn't even saying it to be a troll. It's what I honestly believe. I have actually been yelled at for holding a door open for a woman. "I CAN DO IT MYSELF." Um, yeah, but that's not the point of chivalry...
 
2006-04-17 09:04:06 AM  
flyboy47c

I'm not clicking on that


But there are pics. Except they call them photos! There is a whole other page dedicated to them.
 
2006-04-17 09:04:26 AM  
You can't have chivalry and equality.

Besides, we all know that chivalry was killed by women. If you wanted it then you shouldn't have killed it off in the first place.
 
2006-04-17 09:04:27 AM  
If women and men are equal, why do they want treatment that differentiates their gender?

This is a problem with society in general. We want "equal rights" but are more than willing to get exclusive treatment.

I've noticed this a lot with women lately, they expect the old fashioned treatment only when it benefits them. I don't see any of them running back to the kitchen to get a pie ready for me after I give up my chair or hold open a door.
 
2006-04-17 09:04:42 AM  
I don't open doors for women, I open doors for people in general because it's the nice thing to do. I give my seat up for the handicapped, elderly, preganant, and women with small children. Your average woman is just as fit to stand as I am.

Come on Fark misogynists, don't leave me hanging here.

/is happily married
//wife more of a misogynist than I am
 
2006-04-17 09:04:45 AM  
Although the guy in the article says some stupid crap, he does make a singular good point. He is dead on when he says that many women have developed "an la carte approach to women's rights and civil equality". It seems to me that some women want to be equal in ways that benefit them, but not in the ways that would require additional work or sacrifice.

/Still opens doors for women anyway
 
2006-04-17 09:04:48 AM  
You want on the life boat first?

The Good Wife's Guide

From Housekeeping Monthly, 13 May, 1955.

*Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have be thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they get home and the prospect of a good meal is part of the warm welcome needed.

* Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.

* Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it.

* Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives. Run a dustcloth over the tables.

* During the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering to his comfort will provide you with immense personal satisfaction.

* Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Encourage the children to be quiet.

* Be happy to see him.

* Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.

* Listen to him. You may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.

* Don't greet him with complaints and problems.

* Don't complain if he's late for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through at work.

* Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or lie him down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.

* Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice.

* Don't ask him questions about his actions or question his judgment or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.

* A good wife always knows her place.
 
2006-04-17 09:05:24 AM  
Chivalry is for Ladies.. But they are extinct.
 
2006-04-17 09:05:43 AM  
2006-04-17 08:40:30 AM madcharlie [TotalFark]

It makes me sad to think that children aren't being raised these days to respect other people, regardless of sex or age. I feel like the only thing children are learning is that they need to look out for themselves because it is a big bad busy world and if they don't look out solely for themselves they'll be trampled.


Sometimes I wonder if that's what is being taught, or parents spoiling their children so much they expect special treatment since they're a unique snowfake. Civility (and chivalry) requires you to treat others at your own expense, which doesn't work if you think you're special. Plus, there are too many lessons out there that demostrate that if you're a big enough asshat, you get what you want. Just watch any reality show.
 
2006-04-17 09:07:07 AM  
Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it.

Hot girl-on-girl action is exactly what I want to see after a hard day's work. Housekeeping Monthly was right on the money!
 
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