I think the whole idea of a "sex offender registry" is stupid. If the sex offender isn't rehabilitated, leave him in jail. If he's rehabilitated, give him the rights of any ex-felon. If the justice system isn't working, then fix it.

Some people classified as sex offenders are truly sick individuals and they should be in jail as long as possible, receive counseling, etc. Other people who get classified as sex offenders include guys who are 18 and have consensual sex with 17 or 16-year olds. There are levels of egregiousness to the crime. Some people are likely to become predators again. Others are as unlikely as anyone else.

There are different issues clouding the argument her

First the offenders lists over there seem to be crap - possibly classifying sex of a post pubertal person (possibly willingly) to someone who gartifies himself with a 3 year old is plain stupid.

The guys who are paedophiles and love sex with little children because they are children have been shown to retain this love in the vast majority for life. The three year reoffending rate is crap it proves nothing - lifelong follow up would show much higher figures and subclassification of offence types would help.

Say it was 50% though for baby rapers then in this case with 2 down the chances are that some children down the line have been saved from sexual abuse -

so the question is not is murder>paedophilia
but would you rather have a paedophile killed or have a child raped?

/of course the reason we don't kill or imprison them for life is because we don't know which ones will definitely reoffend and when
//some would argue who cares

kaliya - but would you rather have a paedophile killed or have a child raped?


When did you stop beating your wife?

Stopped reading this thread halfway through. doccm9 has no conception of objective, logical debate, as is clear by his refusal to truly address the counterpoints presented to him.

Also, I believe this deserves a repeat: in some states, public urination gets you on the list. That's right, your reputation gets ruined for life because you took a whiz out back.

sprgrss

????wtf????

Thank you Apathetic Monkey; I was hoping someone else had already done that.

Unfortunately the good citizens of Maine have not yet determined that the death penalty is a suitable punishment for a certain level of sex crimes. In addition, a jury of the murder victim/sex offender's peers determined that life in prison without parole was too harsh a sentance for the offenders. I'm not saying either statement should be different, though I think the death penalty should be considered an option for repeat/multiple pedophilia at least.

Regardless, any civil lawyer worth his salt will be able to prove the State of Maine as a negligent accomplice in the death of these two men.

There is no justification for vigilante murder,none.
Some of you may try to rationalize the wisdom of such blood lust but that effort only results in exposing you.

Pretty sure a 20 year old boinking a 17 year old would make that list and forever be unable to get a decent job. Sex offender registry is bullshiat.

@pvrhye: That really isn't going to happen. Rape of a child is usually from ages 14 and lower, to be considered actual rape, the child has to be at least that young- in the USA. Maybe for what you mentioned (a 20 year old with a 17 year old), someone would get some type of corruption of a minor charge, but probably not charged with a sex crime.

Trust me, this registry does more good than harm. I'm amazed about all of the people that I didn't know about in my area, and I live in a super small town.

pvrhye: Pretty sure a 20 year old boinking a 17 year old

17 is legal in alot of states.

another reason why megan's law is a bunch of crap

SuperstarGoddess
The label of "Sex Offender", at least in Maine, includes much more than those who rape children.

To repeat: I know a registered sex offender in Maine: he was a 24 years old teacher assistant at the University of Southern Maine dating a 21 years old student, neither of them in the same classes.

I know someone who is not a registered sex offender in Maine: a priest whom molested two children that I know of, & likely many more.

Guess which offender Ive a problem with?

smeegle: There is no justification for vigilante murder,none.

At least the guy had the common decency to kill himself after the crime so as to not be a burden on the already overcrowded prison system.

/for some reason I dont have a problem with pedophiles living in fear. Worrying that their neighbors are aware of what they have done and could be potential vigilantes.

"You know what I think is psycho, Roc? It's decent men with loving families. They come home every day after work and they turn on the news. You know what they see? They see rapists, and murderers and child molesters. They're all getting out of prison. Mafiosos. Getting caught with twenty kilos. Getting out on bail the same farking day. And everywhere, everyone thinks the same thing: that someone should just go kill those motherfarkers."

Food for thought: murder is definitely to be avoided at all costs. But if we wish to prevent murder of every kind, there lies upon our social contstructs and systems of justice the burden of effectively dealing with those who act against the good of the many and cause great suffering.

Our current system is deeply flawed in some ways. As long as it remains so, and a large number of people feel that Justice is not truly being served, it will be difficult to convince every member of society to restrain their hand and let the Government do its job. That perception of failure will taint the system and people will argue that a broken system requires action on the part of the individual.

The moral, I suppose, is that every one of us must strive to the maximum extent of our abilities to better ourselves, so that society as a whole may benefit.

~V

So looking at NJ's website. I noticed a guy who went to my High School. Farking disgustung prick.

I am no fan of vigilante violence, but I am not gonna feel bad about this.

Statler: "Hahaha, we both farked her!"
Waldorf: "What do you mean you sick bastard?"
Statler: "Atlantic City Bukkake Queens 14."
Waldorf: "I remember that, i did a little coke, before the scene."
Statler: "So you remember it?"
Waldorf: " A liter of rum and 2 grams of coke. Let's see how much you remmeber about a dead hooker."
Statler: "Dead hooker, that was my dead grand mother!
Waldorf: No woder she was so stiff!
Both : "HARHARHARHARHAR!"

fark joo mang, dat was ma sista! you are some sick old farks!

Waldorf: Ok, what is this purple clad freak looking for?
Statler: I think he's looking to touch the pee-pee's of underage boys.
Waldorf: I guess he'll have to wait until you're finsihed!
Statler: You asshole!
Both: Harharharharhahar!

Since men who so much as urinate in a vacant lot or moon their buddy's car can be charged with "indecent exposure" and forced to register on these lists right alongside genuine hardcore perverts how long until one of them is killed by some misbegotten vigilante?

Maybe that's what it will take to bring an end to these ridiculous lists.

They are little more than additional, unnecessary punishment meted out after these folks have done their time.

Why no lists then for burglars, con-men, murderers?

What's the difference?

Google "Fitzroy Barnaby" who was convicted in Illinois law for grabbing a young girl's arm to pull her out of traffic as the act of grabbing her, "unlawful restraint" is a "pre-cursor offense" that caused him to have to register as a sex offender.

Had he let her get creamed by a truck he would still have his freedom/dignity.

That's justice???

Remember that story of the 22 year old teachers aide having sex with a 19 year old HS senior? Well, now she is a sex offender.

Remember the story of the two 12 year olds having sex. Both were arrested and are now listed as sex offenders for illicit sexual contact with a minor under the age of 14.

Remember the story of the 18 year old that married his 15 year old girlfriend after she got pregnant? Yep, him too, a registered sex offender.

How about the story of the college kid caught streaking across the field of an intermural rugby game. Yep, him too. Now a registered sex offender.

There are hundreds of these cases. And these public internet lists are dangerous. Mostly because of whacko christians.

There's probably LESS genuine sex crime then there was 50 years ago but, since the communists are no longer with us to generate the fear needed to keep the populace cowering in fear and compliant to every whim of the government "SEX OFFENDERS" have become the convienent new boogieman.

Oh_Enough_Already: ince men who so much as urinate in a vacant lot or moon their buddy's car can be charged with "indecent exposure" and forced to register on these lists right alongside genuine hardcore perverts how long until one of them is killed by some misbegotten vigilante?

Jesus: Oh joo tink dis is funny do you?


Statler: oh "jess let my cone have some cream!"
Waldorf: You sick old fark, we're getting serious again about sexual assualt!
Statler: What is that on your lip?
Waldorf: You know damn well that the herpes I caught from you in the dressing room!
Statler: Cut! Cut! Cut!
Waldorf: Fag!
Statler:

Brian Peppers unavailable for comment:

All you big-time idiots saying shooting pedophiles released from jail is good, if pedophilia is such a bad thing then the solution is to punish them heavily under the law (make laws stricter if they aren't strict enough). Letting the public take the law into its own hands is NOT the answer.

When sex offenders have been released, the government has deemed that they've done their time. But if Vinnie decides the government's wrong, is it A-OK to let him override the government's decision? Nice democracy you got there.

State of Maine takes sex offender registry website offline after man slays two sex offenders. Who didn't see this scenario coming?

The state of Maine, apparently.

It's all f*cked up, especially if he didn't know why the sex offenders were labeled as such. In some states, urinating in public is a sex offense... in others, 18 year olds having sex with their 17 year old girlfriend/boyfriend is a sex offense. While I find nearly no one as despicable as those who harm children, trusting that the state has made reasonable decisions in labeling people as sex offenders is an unreasonable decision. (One of my friends managed to get his record expunged, he was 18 and did a 17 year old in a particular state before they passed a romeo and juliet law... they passed a retroactive sex offender registry, he got all kinds of hate mail, eggings, spray paint on his car, etc... and the really f*cked up part was when they tagged her car too, not knowing he had married her shortly after he got out of the clink.)

No one else on the bus was injured, Procopio said, but five passengers who were splattered with blood were taken to area hospitals to be examined.

ugh.

Yeah you can't just kill sex offenders. Sometimes you can be a sex offender for being older than your significant other and having sex with them on your 18th birthday. You can be a sex offender for having a picture of yourself and/or your significant other when underage. Yes, a 16 year old girl can be charged with child porn for having a picture of herself and a 17 year old boyfriend naked.

Hell in the bible belt I wouldn't be surprised if premarital sex will put you on the list.

Oh yah also remember you don't need to be convicted to be on the list, the accusation puts you on it. Unless youre doing your homework before killing people on these lists, you could easily be killing someone for having sex with someone one day younger than them, or perhaps someone accused for sexual abuse but the case was dropped or the person was found not guilty.

How about we just lobotomize the violent sex offenders--that is, rapists and the like?

Wot? No functional justice system? haha, move to europe!

brandied: How about we just lobotomize the violent sex offenders--that is, rapists and the like?

Or, umm, how about--and I realise this might sound like a really radical idea--you just don't let them out of jail?

Seriously, if you support a sex offender registry, you're basically supporting the concept that people who rape children should be allowed to live next door to children. If you've done something bad enough to deserve to be on a sex offenders registry, why isn't that act bad enough to warrant a life sentence?

I looked up the registered sex offenders in my area. Not surprisingly, they were dirty old white men who I could have probably told were sex offender without even having looked at the list (if I remember correctly they looked similar to those men in the castration trial).

What Kills meis all you crazy people comeing up worst case Senerios. I cant Find a Single version of the 20 year old and the 17 year old on any of the Internet lists.


Maybe you guys should Post LINKS to your examples other then What ifs.


Bottom line I as a Citzen WANT a Sexual offender list. I dont care if it is a guy that Raped children or a Guy that thinks he needs to piss in public often enough to get caught Both are a threat to children.

Let the sex offenders rape all the people they want to.

\In Prison
\\where they belong

What Kills meis all you crazy people comeing up worst case Senerios. I cant Find a Single version of the 20 year old and the 17 year old on any of the Internet lists.

IN my state (michigan)... There's no difference in the charge between a 18 and 15 year old.. and a 50 and 5 year old..

Maybe that's why you can't find it...

Reveilled
Seriously, if you support a sex offender registry, you're basically supporting the concept that people who rape children should be allowed to live next door to children. If you've done something bad enough to deserve to be on a sex offenders registry, why isn't that act bad enough to warrant a life sentence?

No, if you support a sex offender registry, you're basically supporting the concept that the government should assist folks in dealing out "vigilante justice" to people who rape children.

Remember folks, lynching is democracy in action.

ah, monday morning bloodlust on fark.

ah, monday morning bloodlust on fark.

It's an Easter hangover. All that talk of stringing up a jew for the last few days has everybody bloodthirsty.

Oh yeah, mooning in public is a sex offense. Kill the mooners too!

Nothing like a story about sex offenders to bring out the lynch mob!