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2006-04-15 06:05:52 PM
Before you give your social security number to anyone, ask them to prove why they need it. If you aren't being paid by that person or doing some sort of business that could be taxed, they probably dont need it.

That especially goes for universities and schools. Social Security numbers are a convenient way for universities come up with a unique id for students, that's it, nothing else. Refuse to give it to them, they dont need it.

When I registered my 5 year old for kindergarten they wanted his social security number. I asked why they needed it and all I got back was "it's on the form".

Just say no!
 
2006-04-15 06:09:01 PM
University official attaches file with 1400 student's social security numbers to students

With a stapler or something?
 
2006-04-15 06:18:58 PM
With all these social insecurity number leaks recently, i hope it means they'll stop using SS#'s for security purposes. It should have never been and now you can see why.
 
2006-04-15 06:23:32 PM
Mr. Programmer:

With all these social insecurity number leaks recently, i hope it means they'll stop using SS#'s for security purposes. It should have never been and now you can see why.

I thought the law specifically stated that SSNs could only be used for Social Security purposes and nothing else. Yet that law is the thing that no one ever follows . . .
 
2006-04-15 06:27:01 PM
Heh. I Googled my SS# about a year ago, and I found a txt file with it. It was data from a department waiting list, and had about 200 SS#'s, major, year, class the student wants, everything but the student names.

Thankfully, our college (UVa) plans to do away with SS as an ID in the next few years.
 
2006-04-15 06:31:57 PM
File that under 'O' for "OH SNAP!"
 
2006-04-15 06:32:21 PM
krelborne: With a stapler or something?

I think they used one of those huge paper clip things.
 
2006-04-15 09:34:08 PM
Maybe they will need these to compete in the job market with the governments preferred citizens that are allowed to work under the table and under many assumed names and ID's.
 
2006-04-15 09:42:40 PM
How many students was the file attached to?
 
2006-04-15 09:43:40 PM
Heh... That sucks.
 
2006-04-15 09:43:42 PM
A real Conservative government would pass a bill restricting the ability of public institutions like Universities to use the SSN as a form of identification in order to preserve the right to privacy.

You guys in America should try electing one sometime.
 
2006-04-15 09:47:57 PM
A couple of years ago I had a professor who demanded our SSN on every paper. I was stupid and didn't know any better, so I complied.

Last semester, I was working on a group project wherein some of the work I'd done for the previous class was a big fat help. So of course I sent my entire group an email with the paper attached.

About 5 minutes later, I got an email from one of the cooler group members saying "Hey, good work on that credit score. I'll be closing on a new house in a few days. Thanks!"

I didn't even know what he was talking about until I looked at the file later, and I felt like such a retard. Sigh.
 
2006-04-15 09:48:06 PM
And an equally conservative government would have universal health care.

/idiot
 
2006-04-15 09:48:16 PM
I have unrestricted access to the social security numbers of every person who's ever applied to my school.

Yeah, I know. I rule.
 
2006-04-15 09:48:55 PM
That headline is atrocious. Why do all these farked up headlines get greenlit?
 
2006-04-15 09:52:04 PM
Used to have problems with stuff like this ALL the time when I worked at a local university.
Even our library used the SSN as a barcode.
Stupidest idea ever.
Someone complained, and I spent 6 months deleting SSNs, and intering new id numbers in the database.
Then I got to fix the OVID database, also set up by SSN, took another 6 months. (Over 9,000 employees, and 10,000 students)

I suppose someone thought it was a good idea to give the students and the employees an id with their SSN right on the front.
Who would have guessed there might be a problem???
/DUH!
 
2006-04-15 09:52:20 PM
NEVER NEVER NEVER give your ss# to anybody except during legitimate business transactions. like itsfullofstars said before, ask them why they need it. if its just for id'ing you, refuse to give it to them. legally, the only people you have to give your ss# to is the IRS and social security.

my school makes everyone fill out a form for our exercise classes to get a locker and matching uniforms, they require a ss#. i gave them my school ID and boy did they get pissed off.

all you have to do is stand your ground and cleary state, "i am not going to give you my social security number" show them your drivers lisence, give them your school ID#, give them your driver's lisence #, but for the love of flying spagetti monster, DO NOT GIVE ANYONE YOUR SS#!!!!!

our dining halls are done by swiping our student ID cards, about once a month the swipers go down and they make each and every student write down their name and ss# on a notepad (to charge them later). everytime i go in, i refuse to give my ss#, and instead give my school ID#, i get biatched out, but oh well. someday, i'm going to just grab that notebook with 100's of names and ss#'s, and sell it for big money

/do not give your ss# to anyone
 
2006-04-15 09:53:48 PM
My school used to use social security numbers for student ID's until someone hacked into the servers. That's when they actually bothered to make their own ID system. Can't believe a university that's been around for over a hundred years couldn't come up with their own identification system until someone comprimised their security and put a bunch of students at risk for identity theft. Lazy bastards.
 
2006-04-15 09:59:07 PM
embowafa: I thought the law specifically stated that SSNs could only be used for Social Security purposes and nothing else. Yet that law is the thing that no one ever follows . . .

You are correct. The social security number never should have been used for any type of identification. However that law is filed away in the "nobody obeys" folder along with the immigration laws.
 
2006-04-15 10:04:48 PM
In the military, your id # is your SSN #

It's patently stupid.
 
2006-04-15 10:05:20 PM
can somebody cite this "law" stating that they can't be used for identification? I know CA and NY have some laws, but I am not aware of a federal law...
 
2006-04-15 10:07:14 PM
palad- You guys in America should try electing one sometime.

I think we did, his name was Clinton ;P

/conservative
 
2006-04-15 10:08:05 PM
Just as dumb: There is a small paper out of Portland, Oregon called the Portland Tribune. Last week they had a feature article on someone trying to return a lost paycheck...

...and there it was, a BIG front page pic of someone holding that paycheck, complete with check number, routing number SSN, the works.

Amazingly, the pic dissappeared from the web edition of that article the same day it came out. I wonder why?
 
2006-04-15 10:09:45 PM
University Official = Professional Academic = Permanent Clueless Asshole
 
2006-04-15 10:11:04 PM
When I registered my 5 year old for kindergarten they wanted his social security number. I asked why they needed it and all I got back was "it's on the form".

It's for the BeNow Inc. database of all American children. It will be used to track your child's whereabout in the event that a military draft is ordered. The public variation of the story is that they don't start tracking them until age 16, but it starts in Kindergarten. Keep the little guy healthy and strong, we may need him to kill furriners someday. By then we'll have enough data on him that he'll have absolutely no chance to evade his ... "duty."
 
G2V
2006-04-15 10:12:01 PM
Damn, I never get here in time to make fun of the headline.
 
2006-04-15 10:13:17 PM
What kind of people do such mistake? Do they show up at work and accidentally forgot to wear any pants often?

And what the farkin hell does a list of social security numbers do on a networked computer with emailing capability in the first place?
 
2006-04-15 10:14:54 PM
ceruleanPhotography In the military, your id # is your SSN # wasn't when i was in but that was many years ago. and the navy if that makes any difference.
 
2006-04-15 10:17:22 PM
Those kids better hope none of the USC football players get hold of that information.
 
2006-04-15 10:21:49 PM
Waitaminute, you mean this didn't happen at NYU?
 
2006-04-15 10:22:40 PM
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WEAPON OF CHOICE
 
2006-04-15 10:23:56 PM
My friend Nick gets all militant when someone at his kid's school demands a SSN. His response when they say they have to have it: "I do NOT have to give you my son's TAX ID number."

Naturally, they have no answer. This is exactly what Nick was aiming for...

However, it is a good idea not to give it out unless you have a job interview or apply for a loan. If you don't get the job or the loan, ask that the document be destroyed.

As an investigative employee, I could find your SSN without too much trouble using a legal database. Only once could I not find one for a guy who obviously did not want to be found. He used his 89-year-old grandpa's SSN and it helped they had the same name, as well as the fact that the target guy moved around. It also appeared other family members were using the SSN as well, in various states. Grandpa had just died, but the number was everywhere. I ran into a wall with that one. Never did find the guy I was looking for.
 
2006-04-15 10:28:46 PM
For what it's worth, if I have your name, birthdate, and address, I can access your SSN in about four seconds. Every time you get a new credit card or car loan, you leave another trail.
 
2006-04-15 10:33:39 PM
What's a Social Security Number?

Could one of you give me yours as an example?
 
2006-04-15 10:37:24 PM
I LOVE South Carolina, much of my family is from there, and I went to school there (College of Knowledge, CofC). However, South Carolina is STILL one of the most ASS-BACKWARD places in the U.S.

...and Jesda, You took my stapler, so I'm gonna burn this Mother down!
 
2006-04-15 10:41:06 PM
Kitten Killa: What's a Social Security Number?

Could one of you give me yours as an example?


1...2...3...4...5

/Rushes off to change code on luggage
 
2006-04-15 10:52:02 PM
123-45-6789
 
2006-04-15 10:57:05 PM
silver2k
can somebody cite this "law" stating that they can't be used for identification? I know CA and NY have some laws, but I am not aware of a federal law...


That would be the Privacy Act of 1974.
 
2006-04-15 10:57:17 PM
Farkin Gamecocks............

Go Tigers!
 
2006-04-15 11:00:37 PM
Oh, sorry for the double post (maybe it won't be by the time I finished). At my work, we make people fill out a form before we let them write checks. And yes, we do ask for their Social Security number. If someone says "I don't have to give that to you", we respond with "That's true. In turn, we don't have to let you write checks here. And if you don't fill out the form completely, we won't."

The strange thing is that we've had way more people refuse to give us their bank's routing and account numbers. When they do so, we always point out that we can just get the numbers off of their check once they write it. A lot of people don't realize that. Morans.
 
2006-04-15 11:01:01 PM
A real Conservative government would

We DO have a real conservative government. Face it: conservatives lie. And kill our troops for nothing but the bible-thumin' flag-waiver vote.

You made your Armageddon. Now smile and shove someone else's nose into it.
 
2006-04-15 11:04:12 PM
blueeyedjess
I suppose someone thought it was a good idea to give the students and the employees an id with their SSN right on the front.
Who would have guessed there might be a problem???


I want to find the person who thought that basing the credit record system around the SSN was a good idea, and have them beaten. Tortured even.

It was an idea of the late 1960s incidentally. That's when colleges and universities flipped to SSN usage, when the credit bureau databases were setup (not really fully implemented until 1970-71) and when some states began collection of SSNs for driver's license issuance (generally these states *sigh*, also printed the number on the license. Curiously, states often added the SSN at the same time they added the photograph, and I'm still trying to figure out why.)

In either case, I wanna beat everyone who created this mess.
 
2006-04-15 11:20:00 PM
In the military, your id # is your SSN #

your social security number number?
 
2006-04-15 11:33:52 PM
"A real Conservative government would

We DO have a real conservative government."

.... nope. The thing about America is, the Republicans call themselves "conservative" but they actually follow an ideology that has nothing to do with political conservatism. Emphasis on the REAL, not the conservative.
 
2006-04-15 11:56:28 PM
My social security number is neither social, nor secure.

I'm currently in proceedings to have it not be a number.
 
2006-04-16 12:04:30 AM
palad

A real Conservative government would pass a bill restricting the ability of public institutions like Universities to use the SSN as a form of identification in order to preserve the right to privacy.

A real Conservative government wouldn't have Social Security.
 
2006-04-16 12:11:14 AM
After having worked at a company where a significant amount of business is conducred via email, I'll say that the some of the biggest uproars were caused by misdirected or incorrect emails being sent out.

Fortunately, never seen anything this stupid happen.

I did find a customer that was leaving a list of names, addresses and credit card numbers openly available on their website. I called and emailed them several times to notify them - but it's still there last time I checked.
 
2006-04-16 12:22:49 AM
TheCaptain

palad

A real Conservative government would pass a bill restricting the ability of public institutions like Universities to use the SSN as a form of identification in order to preserve the right to privacy.

A real Conservative government wouldn't have Social Security.


A REAL real Conservative government wouldn't have government.
 
2006-04-16 12:23:39 AM
I like the places that try and be hip and use the last 4 digits of your SSN. Well the first 3 are determined by the year and in what state you got it, so that leaves 2 numbers people have to guess.

/ get a clue morans
 
2006-04-16 12:27:39 AM
Who is the 1400 student, and why does he/she have a social security number? And why did they give that student's number out? The article doesn't explain it well enough.
 
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