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(AP)   Oakland to install sophisticated gunshot location microphones in some of its most violent neighborhoods to slow rising murder rate, give Raider fans a few new targets to plink off   ( sanluisobispo.com) divider line
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2006-04-13 12:45:01 PM  
gunshot mics? so I'll just have to invest in a silencer...
 
2006-04-13 12:45:07 PM  
Does it shoot back?
'cause that would be news worthy.
 
2006-04-13 12:46:52 PM  
The rate of return on silencers is surprisingly low.
Better to put your investment in a sandwich heavy portfolio.
They usually pay off for the hungry investor.
 
2006-04-13 12:47:07 PM  
They should do this in All high crime areas. I'm pretty sure the people in the neighborhood would appreciate it. Besides we all know thugs are too damn lazy to climb a pole and uninstall it. Assuming that they know how.
 
2006-04-13 12:48:39 PM  
... You're being ironic, right pvd021?

At least where I'm from, thugs are remarkably dilligent at dismantling cameras and such.
 
2006-04-13 12:49:40 PM  
In chicago they started putting these up with cameras on them. I live about 2 blocks south of one and last month i heard gunshots from down the street. When i called the police they said it was already picked up by the microphones and units had been deployed.

No word if the idiot who fired the gun was in camera view at the time
 
2006-04-13 12:53:42 PM  
What will happen when my old van starts up?
 
2006-04-13 12:54:23 PM  
Anybody think of the Hong Kong Market level in Deus Ex?

Yeah, didn't think so....
 
2006-04-13 12:54:31 PM  
As an Oakland resident I would have to say...

...there are far too many Taco Bells for this method to be accurate and effective
 
2006-04-13 12:56:17 PM  
4NSpy

What will happen when my old van starts up?


Smack her around a bit - she'll come 'round.
 
2006-04-13 12:58:12 PM  
www.tagliners.org
 
2006-04-13 12:58:20 PM  
Raiders suck. So do their fans.

/Go Broncos.
 
2006-04-13 12:58:38 PM  
wonder how many false alarms they get w/ cars backfiring..
 
2006-04-13 01:01:24 PM  
Will it catch this sound though.


www.vinod.com
 
2006-04-13 01:02:59 PM  
When I lived out there, they were experimenting with that in Redwood City. I think they did E.P.A., as well. This was back in the early 90s.

It will be just fine, because Law Enforcement agencies will not use the microphones to listen to anything but gunshots.

Nothing to see here, go back to your meadow grazing.
 
2006-04-13 01:03:22 PM  
"gunshot location microphones"

/creative
 
2006-04-13 01:05:22 PM  
Nentuaby

Have you seen what these cameras are mounted on? Its these long tall poles. I doubt anyone would climb those things and dismantle it. Besides as soon as its dismantle. They're just gonna send a technician to reinstall it. Its 24hrs surveillance. They can't afford having one of their cameras down. Defeats the whole purpose of having them.
 
2006-04-13 01:06:55 PM  
In other news, the Raiders have fans.
 
2006-04-13 01:07:49 PM  
I know the ones in place in Chicago are in a bullet-proof box with CCTV. Pretty cool idea if you ask me.
 
2006-04-13 01:11:30 PM  
"I know the ones in place in Chicago are in a bullet-proof box with CCTV. Pretty cool idea if you ask me."

And of course, fatal_exception doesn't have to live in that neighborhood, so all surveillance is just dandy.
 
2006-04-13 01:11:55 PM  
Yes, microphones on every corner is a GREAT idea.

They're there to pick up gunshots. HONESTLY.
 
2006-04-13 01:13:18 PM  
Clold No, not all surveillance. Just the stuff in your neighbourhood.
 
2006-04-13 01:14:24 PM  
Why is this so expensive, it should be pretty cheap?

You need an accurate clock in each microphone, which you could get by using a GPS receiver and then each one has to send back the exact time that it heard the blast.

Then you have a computer watch for any loud noise occurrance that's almost simultaneously picked up by multiple microphones. Using their locations, it's simple triangulation to work out the position.

I used a very similar principle in a robot we built at university. The robot would send out bursts of ultrasound which would be picked up by sensors in known locations. It allowed us to know exactly where the robot was.
 
2006-04-13 01:14:39 PM  
I'm paranoid about cameras enough as it is. If someone installed a camera AND a mic in my neighborhood (O subuuuurbia etc.) I think I would actually have to move.

/Tinfoil hat, mittens, and scarf
 
2006-04-13 01:15:14 PM  
This will make a pack of firecrackers waaay more fun in Oakland...
 
2006-04-13 01:20:09 PM  
Thank you, Raiders. For making the Ravens look better.

/not really
 
2006-04-13 01:23:24 PM  
This will make a pack of firecrackers waaay more fun in Oakland...

I don't see how cameras and mics will make a group of sexy chicks more entertaining.
 
2006-04-13 01:24:05 PM  
who cares. just let them kill each other and then the problem will be gone.
 
2006-04-13 01:26:58 PM  
sprd is an acronym, right?

Senseless
Pitiful
Racist
Dickhead

Oh, nevermind. You're from Dallas - land of "Just let them hump each other and the problem will multiply"
 
2006-04-13 01:27:24 PM  
A little too late to install them here:

mcadams.posc.mu.edu
 
2006-04-13 01:29:35 PM  
I'm sure most Raider fans shoot well enough to take these mics out in a week, tops. And God bless--we keep the NFL interesting.
 
2006-04-13 01:34:49 PM  
Big brother..............Big brother is that you?
 
2006-04-13 01:35:42 PM  
WayneKerr:I don't see how cameras and mics will make a group of sexy chicks more entertaining.

firecracker =
www.cannon-mania.com
 
2006-04-13 01:37:25 PM  
It allowed us to know exactly where the robot was.

Why not just make it big and shiny, like a real robot.
 
2006-04-13 01:43:55 PM  
micuu: First thing that came to mind.

www.delos.fantascienza.com
 
2006-04-13 01:49:30 PM  
I'm telling you, people....

Big Brother is inevitable.

/ so is SkyNet
// and Clare Danes in a fallout shelter
/// so hot
//// gurgle
 
2006-04-13 01:55:55 PM  
OK, maybe I'm slow today, but please give me an example of something that you would be doing outside in your neighborhood that is both legal and that you don't think law enforcement has a right to see.

I'm ready to be convinced.
 
2006-04-13 02:00:42 PM  
"OK, maybe I'm slow today, but please give me an example of something that you would be doing outside in your neighborhood that is both legal and that you don't think law enforcement has a right to see."

Sunbathing naked in my backyard. :P
 
2006-04-13 02:03:34 PM  
plink?
 
2006-04-13 02:14:21 PM  
whenIsayGO:

OK, maybe I'm slow today, but please give me an example of something that you would be doing outside in your neighborhood that is both legal and that you don't think law enforcement has a right to see.

So, legal activity or not, you would have no problem with an officer following you everywhere you went the second you stepped outside of your house? I find the thought to be a bit unnerving, but YMMV.
 
2006-04-13 02:14:24 PM  
Dang you, Barnstormer. I was thinking that.
 
2006-04-13 02:21:05 PM  
whenIsayGO

OK, maybe I'm slow today, but please give me an example of something that you would be doing outside in your neighborhood that is both legal and that you don't think law enforcement has a right to see.


The thing that gets people angry is that people are being spied on. That police are being given privilages that us "peasants" do not have. This is different than having a cop car drive around on patrol.

I can drive around town looking out my window, just like cops.

I can't put polls in the ground and mount cameras w/mics on them around town.

If I started planting cameras and mics around town, my butt would be in jail. When the police do it, it is "progress".

/Probably a bad analogy, but it is the best I can do.
 
2006-04-13 02:21:43 PM  
Though I do like the idea of the cops being able to keep closer tabs on the vermin in society...this really could be the start of a very slippery slope.
 
2006-04-13 02:22:20 PM  
vrax So, legal activity or not, you would have no problem with an officer following you everywhere you went the second you stepped outside of your house? I find the thought to be a bit unnerving, but YMMV.
If the officer was following ME it would be weird, but I would liken it more to an officer standing on every corner, which would be fine with me.
 
2006-04-13 02:24:03 PM  
I wonder if they'll get thrown off by the exhaust whistlers & thumpin' car stereos.
 
2006-04-13 02:24:35 PM  
WayneKerr
sprd is an acronym, right?

Senseless
Pitiful
Racist
Dickhead


I think there should be a supplement to the Godwin law for people who cry racism without proper cause.
 
2006-04-13 02:28:22 PM  
WayneKerr
sprd is an acronym, right?

Senseless
Pitiful
Racist
Dickhead

Oh, nevermind. You're from Dallas - land of "Just let them hump each other and the problem will multiply"


And he brought up race, how? Oh, it was you who thinks that way. I have no problem with people who like to shoot each other to prove "whatever," doing so until there are none left.
 
2006-04-13 02:39:09 PM  
hells yeah!

GO RAIDERS!!!

Beat the phoney whiners (that's 49'ers to everyone else). now all we need to do it convince the whiners to come to oakland for AT LEAST a preseason game once in a while
 
2006-04-13 02:45:20 PM  
So, legal activity or not, you would have no problem with an officer following you everywhere you went the second you stepped outside of your house? I find the thought to be a bit unnerving, but YMMV.

I live like that now. There are enough electronic records to reconstruct most of my day-to-day activity. If I'm ever sued or arrested wrongly those records may save my ass.

If you act like you're being watched 24 hours a day, you'll keep yourself out of trouble.
 
2006-04-13 02:56:23 PM  
indenture

So, legal activity or not, you would have no problem with an officer following you everywhere you went the second you stepped outside of your house? I find the thought to be a bit unnerving, but YMMV.

I live like that now...If you act like you're being watched 24 hours a day, you'll keep yourself out of trouble.


You are a good citizen!

You never really wanted to move out of your parents house, didja?
 
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