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2006-04-12 11:04:39 PM  
No. It's not. On either account.
 
2006-04-12 11:25:45 PM  
I think burnproof is more of the issue here.
 
2006-04-12 11:28:43 PM  
I'm no expert here, but I'm pretty sure they are no sttacking the soldiers for their Nike's.
 
2006-04-12 11:33:02 PM  

Just.Shoot.It.


www.usatoday.com

 
2006-04-12 11:33:57 PM  
Dang! I think that salesman ripped me off on this Adidas body armor!
 
2006-04-12 11:34:24 PM  
I think receiving secondary burns from burning polyester wouldn't be the primary thought on a soldiers mind when dealing with an incendiary. I say, let them remain as comfortable as possible in the meantime by wearing wicking base layers.
 
2006-04-12 11:39:51 PM  
imagion if your side was 10 degrees cooler..

my.ohio.voyager.net
 
2006-04-12 11:40:53 PM  
Unavailable for comment.
i65.photobucket.com
 
2006-04-12 11:42:09 PM  
Commie traitors telling negative stories about war! Kill the traitors. Find them and kill them! (British accent) Gowhd cohmahnds it!
 
2006-04-12 11:42:21 PM  
man, i would not want to be out there without some underarmour.
 
2006-04-12 11:45:48 PM  
Marines wearing polyester and nylons.
Once a queen always a queen.
 
2006-04-12 11:47:51 PM  
I have heard that at one time, sailors wore polyester uniforms. Until there was a fire onboard one of the ships. More than a few people had their uniforms melted to their skin.

Guess who doesn't use polyester uniforms anymore?
 
2006-04-12 11:49:44 PM  
not like DC's anyway...

for those who remembered the kid who got hit in with the stray and his colin mckay's protected the impact...

(i couldn't find a link...)
 
2006-04-12 11:52:23 PM  
If you're going to be burned, then what's the best clothing to wear if not synthetic? Cotton? Wool?
 
2006-04-12 11:54:21 PM  
As any college football fan will tell you, Nike gear is butt ugly.
 
2006-04-12 11:56:16 PM  
bmihura
I suspect it's some kind of specially treated non-burning synthetic.
 
2006-04-13 12:00:38 AM  
This is great:

TheWBALChannel.com in Baltimore reported that the site -- Military.com -- says that when the clothing is exposed to extreme heat and flames, some synthetic materials such as polyester will melt and can fuse to the skin.

They're reporting on a reporting of the original report. Nice editorial work there!
 
2006-04-13 12:00:42 AM  
Apparently, they don't want the soldiers to be confused with the terrorists.

www.vedrashko.com
 
2006-04-13 12:04:10 AM  
bmihura

An answer for you:

The camouflage utility uniforms are designed to turn to ash and blow away after the material is burned, but the burn hazard is still present, said Welling, who recommends wearing 100% cotton clothing while on missions.



http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,93820,00.html?ESRC=marine.nl
 
2006-04-13 12:09:01 AM  
bmihura

If you're going to be burned, then what's the best clothing to wear if not synthetic? Cotton? Wool?

Nomex, nothing less.
 
2006-04-13 12:10:03 AM  
I was cheap, so I didn't use UnderArmor. Hell, I sweated so bad, it wouldn't have mattered anyhow.

/can't image being that hot again
 
2006-04-13 12:10:15 AM  
bmihura
Probably cotton. Wool can melt too (though it's much less likely than with synthetics), but try setting your jeans on fire some time. It's pretty damn hard to do any damage to heavy cotton cloth using heat of any kind.

On the other hand, wool breathes a lot better than cotton, so if you're looking for something for the desert and can't use synthetics, wool may be a better choice.
 
2006-04-13 12:10:16 AM  
Jomigero: As any college football fan will tell you, Nike gear is butt ugly.

My God, have you seen the new Ohio State jerseys? It hurts me as a Buckeye to look at them.
 
2006-04-13 12:16:12 AM  
RadioactiveApe good link-- I like the turning to ash and blowing away idea vs. anything else
 
2006-04-13 12:18:20 AM  
"Now, with so many encounters with IED explosions,"

oh yeah, SOOO many.
 
2006-04-13 12:18:50 AM  
Sports gear from Nike and other companies is cool and stylish, but it's not bulletproof

It should be. This just proves that Nike is deaf to the needs of its main demographic.
 
2006-04-13 12:22:20 AM  
pub.tv2.no
 
2006-04-13 12:29:48 AM  
I was cheap, so I didn't use UnderArmor.

Neither did I, but it was pretty popular.

I shelled out for some good Thorlo socks, though. Those were worth every cent of their $11 per pair.

Wrote it off on my taxes, too.
 
2006-04-13 12:34:12 AM  
ubermensch:

I have heard that at one time, sailors wore polyester uniforms. Until there was a fire onboard one of the ships. More than a few people had their uniforms melted to their skin.

Guess who doesn't use polyester uniforms anymore?


Guess who's not familiar with teh concept of "dress whites"?
 
2006-04-13 02:01:05 AM  
Synthetic fabrics make a very nasy burn when they melt into the skin. In a fire cotton can be a problem too, as sweat will cause 'steam burns' as it boils. However, I guess for a bomb the time to temperature readings are a little different than for a vehicle fire, and I don't know if this would be a problem. There are also a whole bunch of other fire protection fabrics, but wearing silicon dioxide in the desert may not be that great. Some of the char-treated cottons might work well for solders (sounds a like their current uniform behavior). The latest thing I have heard about is CarbonX, which is supposed to outperform Nomex in every way.
 
2006-04-13 04:10:32 AM  
Under Armour is a ridiculously cool and innovative company. They will take this problem and design a breathable, fireproof second skin before this war is over.

/Put money on it.
//Don't stop get it, get it.
///Shake it shake it... shake it shake it... oohooo!
////Gorillaz plug biatches!
 
2006-04-13 08:07:05 AM  
Reminds me of the Native American "ghost shirts" or whatever: that crazy chief said they would stop bullets...

/not saying all Native Americans are crazy
 
2006-04-13 08:10:17 AM  
I loved my Under Armour. Bummer to hear it would have melted to my skin. Or might have, or whatever.

Doing summer in Iraq without, though, wearing all that gear? Man.

One of the nicest things about wearing Under Armour was, aside from the breathability, that your utility shirt and body armor would just slide around on it when you moved--no friction and no chafing. The standard-issue cotton t-shirts were not quite so awesome.

/Cotton kills
//At least in cold weather, anyway
///Not so cold in Iraq, except at night in the winter, maybe
 
2006-04-13 09:21:54 AM  
AllahAckbar: Reminds me of the Native American "ghost shirts" or whatever: that crazy chief said they would stop bullets...

Does Mormon underwear stop bullets, too?
 
2006-04-13 11:36:33 AM  
dmd8605: My God, have you seen the new Ohio State jerseys? It hurts me as a Buckeye to look at them.

I'm a Gator. I still can't get over the random orange sleeve jersey for the UGA game last year. Miami and Virginia Tech had awful ones as well (though, in Miami's case, I think they should adopt them permenantly).
 
2006-04-13 12:29:34 PM  
Burns can kill you and theyre horribly disfiguring. If youre throwing (a melted synthetic material) on top of a burn, basically you have a bad burn with a bunch of plastic melting into your skin and thats not how you want to go home to your family,

Cue the GI JOE music.

/youch
//I respect the hell outta anyone overthere
 
2006-04-13 02:08:04 PM  
I'd recommend going with silk then. Same burn pattern as wool, doesn't melt like polyesters, and is a superior wicking & low friction material than cotton/wool.

Gotta love government publications

BDU/DCU's are fire treated, so they're good, and silk's on the allowed list. While expensive, black silk t-shirts are available, and are within the same cost zone as underarmor($30-40 each).
 
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