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2006-04-04 12:31:17 PM
Kanyon: Nevertheless, I'll ask again what speficially is American History omitting that is so important that black history includes?


All the wonderful uses for the peanut!
 
2006-04-04 12:34:02 PM
I werk fo' da black man

So I be really getting uh smoke out o' most o' deez replies.

Some o' ya pimpz iz very pimp-tight at making it sound like ya know what ya iz jivin' about.

But trust me.... You don'.

I th'o't ya just wants ta make yourself sound smart, when in reality ya dont know what ya iz jivin' about.

This iz how bad info gets passed around.

If ya dont know about da topic....Dont make yourself sound like ya do.

Cuz some Farkers belive anythin' dey hear.
w0rd!
 
2006-04-04 12:34:09 PM
Next thing you know the government will be distributing crack in black neighborhoods. Disgusting...just disgusting.
 
2006-04-04 12:34:19 PM
tomstdenis: If you really want to have something get an orange juice or plain ol' water.

Orange juice with burger and fries?
Yuck. Plus there's a lot of sugar in OJ. Not sure how much better that would be.
 
2006-04-04 12:34:39 PM
So can the burger and fries that go with the diet soda.

I agree. I don't touch McDonalds or fast food in general (including Subway).

But some people love fast food. It is better to get a couple of burgers (which actually have quite a bit of protein) than to have the same calories from cola. And if you MUST get the burgers, then the diet coke is actually a good thing.

Very few people try to get all of their calories from liquids, so liquids just add empty crap to their systems. It is easier to tell someone to avoid coke than to avoid eating. It is better, all things being equal, to eat crap and avoid the extra calories from cola than to eat well and fill up those calories from cola.
 
2006-04-04 12:37:04 PM
pxtl

I give you every assurance that I am no racist. The comparison is made because of their proximity to each other. Seeing the two are like seeing night and day.

However, in my defense, and to bolster my statement, fast-food establishments that employ solely or primarily African-Americans have, almost without exception, been the exact same way. I am not stating that there is an exact inverse correllation between % of African-American staff and overall quality, but it's more than a coincidence. I have been to dozens, if not hundreds, of fast-food joints all over the place. Standards are not enforced equally between fast-food chains, nor between establishments in those chains. It's just a fact of experience.
 
2006-04-04 12:37:31 PM
Kanyon: There is no separate Chinese history who were instrumental in our nationwide rail system. There is no separate Irish Ameircan history as they were the first group of immigrants to really feel unwelcomed by Americans already here and so on and so forth.

But black people have had a unique American experience from the days of slavery until the late 50s, and arguably till this day. that is why the subject needs to be treated uniquely.

is that if a class were formed to soley study white americans, Jesse Jackson may very well throw his shoulder out when whipping out the race card.

if you could make that class up, what would you teach?
 
2006-04-04 12:37:44 PM
Has anyone else noticed that most of KFC's ads have black people in them?
 
2006-04-04 12:38:50 PM
I didn't RTFA, is McDonalds putting guns to people's heads now and forcing them to eat Big Macs?

I always do what the TV tells me to do. I just saw a commercial for Tampax and even though I am not a woman, I am going to rush to the store and buy some immediately because you never know! The commercial made them seem so wonderful, I'm sure I'll find some use for them. I just have to make sure to hit up a McDonalds on the way so that I have the energy to navigate my way through the bowels of WalMart to the feminine hygeine aisle.
 
2006-04-04 12:40:33 PM
I hate the idea of Black History month, but I understand the necessity of it. Back in 1926 when BHM started, do you HONESTLY think blacks had equal representation in history education? So it was born that blacks had a separate month for history to emphasize their proud heritage. And hey, that's cool.

NOW, however, it's time to drop the BHM thing and start integrating black history into the school systems. Not just King and Frederick Douglass and those guys, but black social history as well as white social history. The need for BHM was there but it has since passed. Now it's time to drop it and integrate black history in the school systems, otherwise we're just reinforcing the notion that blacks are different. They can be separate, that's fine, but equal (or rather, proportionate) in terms of historical representation.
 
2006-04-04 12:42:06 PM
While I completely agree with Kanyon's assesment of American history classes, I think it forces us to address other issues. Why is it that American public schools limit their history classes (in general) to events that occured on only 1/3 of the populated continents?
 
2006-04-04 12:42:09 PM
I hate the idea of Black History month, but I understand the necessity of it.

And what exactly is the "necessity"?
 
2006-04-04 12:43:40 PM
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/no one yet?
 
2006-04-04 12:44:39 PM
"Commercials on Black Entertainment Television, the nation's first black-targeted cable channel, were compared with ads during afternoon and evening shows on the WB network and Disney Channel."

Disney Channel doesn't show commercials for anything other than Disney products and Disney Channel shows; what are the researchers talking about?
 
2006-04-04 12:44:50 PM
Albert Speer: And what exactly is the "necessity"?

to annoy you it would seem.
 
2006-04-04 12:44:58 PM
Additionally, I can make a comparison of two Wal*Mart locations in my area.

One is on Route 40 outside of Baltimore. It is in a predominantly African-American community. The other is in Glen Burnie, which is as White Trash Cracker Central as you can get, believe me.

Neither location is anything to write home about, not that any Wal*Mart is. However, the Route 40 location, staffed almost solely by African-Americans, is an utter disaster by comparison to its Glen Burnie counterpart. No efforts are made to clean the place, items are opened and strewn throughout (if even still there), and there are never more than two registers open. The people at the one in Glen Burnie (staffed mainly by Whites and Latins) at least make an effort. Sure, there are problems there as well, but they try to keep the place under control.

It is an unfortunate matter, but it exists.
 
2006-04-04 12:46:51 PM
2006-04-04 12:07:49 PM Headso
Kanyon: I thought history was supposed to be objectional.

come one man, we all know history is written by those in power, maybe your american history classes covered blacks more extensively then mine, but when i went to school they briefly covered MLK and the peanut guy and that was it.


Every school is different, I distinctly remember discussions of those two individuals in junior high and high school. How much time is the right amount to spend on them? They were each significant but what do we need- a 2-week unit on each of them? I think the coverage of both of them is fine, in general. If anything institutions bend over backwards to discuss the civil rights movement; and the coverage of MLK in particular approaches secular hagiography.
 
2006-04-04 12:47:06 PM
Probably explains why blacks are such great athletes: it's the steroids in the fast-food meat.

/hides under desk
 
2006-04-04 12:47:43 PM
tarrant84: McDonalds has taylored it's advertisements to appeal to a black audience. "I'm lovin' it", etc. Blacks just eat a very high proportion of fast food.

That's true, even on "non-black" TV stations, it seems like the commercials are tailored for black people.

I think people forget that, when you're talking about the nature of any company, nothing matters except money. Companies won't descriminate if it doesn't help their profits. If McDonalds found a way to secretly brainwash people into eating their food, they would do it without regret. They exist to make money and grow, that's what companies do.
 
2006-04-04 12:48:19 PM
riceguy7, on behalf of everyone I thank you for your intelligent input.
 
2006-04-04 12:48:53 PM
And some lefties wonder why people don't belive in the whole "global warming" thing. With "Scientists" put out this kindaa crap of "research". it proves that most of the so call "scientists" don't have a clue what they are talking about and publish just so they can get more tax-payer grants.

/wheeee
 
2006-04-04 12:49:00 PM
I wanna know where da gold at!
 
2006-04-04 12:51:20 PM
Headso
But black people have had a unique American experience from the days of slavery until the late 50s, and arguably till this day. that is why the subject needs to be treated uniquely.

Everyone's experience was "unique" in one way or another. Are you implying that black history is more important that other nationalities?


if you could make that class up, what would you teach?

White people have made TONS of contributions to our society. There's no shortage of what you could teach. Hell, I could teach a month on Thomas Edison alone and all of his inventions. You could teach about the brilliant military strategies of Robert E. Lee. You could go in depth about the Industrial Revolution and its key players such as Rockafeller. You could discuss the philosophies of each of the founding fathers as they toiled away at forging the constitution. As I said, all you're doing by having a Black History class is zeroing in on one aspect of American history based on race. That said, if I'm zeroing in on white aspect, you could EASILY come up with enough ideas, contributions, innovations, speeches, literature, etc. etc. to fill up a class. There truly would be no shortage of material.
 
2006-04-04 12:51:34 PM
Albert Speer: riceguy7, on behalf of everyone I thank you for your intelligent input.

Thanks. I support sarcasm too!
 
2006-04-04 12:52:20 PM
Mr. Clarence Butterworth: I rarely eat in McDs, BK, Wendy's. I get it to go, because I have a huge problem with hearing "N----","motherfarker", and "biatch" while I eat, and that's just the sisters. They have filthier mouths, I swear.

It's not that the sisters have filthier mouths, it's just that they never shut the fark up.

\i keed
\\or do i?
 
2006-04-04 12:52:36 PM
Working in Baltimore I can honestly say the ads are clearly directed towards black communities. Their advertisements are laced with all black actors, R&B music and even common slang terms. This is true on the radios and even on television. Racist? No, McDonalds is aiming for a market that has yet to be tapped. Many people love fat...no matter what color they are. in McDonalds case, Green is the only color seen here.
 
2006-04-04 12:52:45 PM
Headso

But black people have had a unique American experience from the days of slavery until the late 50s, and arguably till this day. that is why the subject needs to be treated uniquely.


Bull. Every major ethnic group that immigrated to the USA throughout history has had a "unique American experience". How can you say Black people's history is that significantly different? It's a good and valid question, why don't we have Irish history month or Chinese history month?
 
2006-04-04 12:55:21 PM
Black folks like fast food. Don't know if its a price issue or a preference issue.

Its target marketing. You don't run Honda Commercials in Detroit, and you don't try to sell bacon double cheeseburger to a Jew or Muslim.
 
2006-04-04 12:56:25 PM
Black people LOVE fried chicken. It's a fact that people shouldn't get all out of sorts about. I live in Detroit, and every street corner has either a Church's or Popeye's. You won't find one fried chicken fast food chain besides KFC in the white suburbs surrounding the city. Big deal.
 
2006-04-04 12:58:10 PM
why don't we have Irish history month or Chinese history month?

Because then blacks would actually have to contribute to society...something they've proven incapable of doing.
 
2006-04-04 12:58:31 PM
pvd021

souped-up Hondas are all that Arabs drive in Detroit...
 
2006-04-04 12:58:36 PM
stiletto_the_wise: How can you say Black people's history is that significantly different? It's a good and valid question, why don't we have Irish history month or Chinese history month?

How can I say it is different? Because it is, no other group in American history has been forcibly taken from their country of origin by the boatload then been subjected to slavery only to be freed into a separate but equal thing that lasted up until a short time ago, we still have blacks alive today that couldnt drink from a white water fountain.
 
2006-04-04 12:59:31 PM
Kanyon: White people have made TONS of contributions to our society.


all those people you listed I learned about in school.
 
2006-04-04 01:00:06 PM
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2006-04-04 01:02:22 PM
Kanyon: I'll ask again what speficially is American History omitting that is so important that black history includes?


Hmmm ... Classical Greece ripped off "black Egypt" and so black people are responsible for all Western culture. No kidding this is taught in Black History classes.
 
2006-04-04 01:03:00 PM
THIS JUST IN!

BLACK PEOPLE LIKE FAST FOOD!
NEWS AT 11.

I heard a rumor there were are ads for expensive watches on the golf channel as well.

And pet food ads on Animal Planet.

Crazy world
 
2006-04-04 01:03:38 PM
How can I say it is different? Because it is, no other group in American history has been forcibly taken from their country of origin by the boatload then been subjected to slavery only to be freed into a separate but equal thing that lasted up until a short time ago, we still have blacks alive today that couldnt drink from a white water fountain.

You're forgetting a key fact: at no point after the end of slavery has anyone tried to keep the blacks here. They've been free to leave and make a better life for themselves for a long time, but they have choosen not to.
 
2006-04-04 01:06:50 PM
Headso
How can I say it is different? Because it is, no other group in American history has been forcibly taken from their country of origin by the boatload then been subjected to slavery only to be freed into a separate but equal thing that lasted up until a short time ago, we still have blacks alive today that couldnt drink from a white water fountain.

And that is the Black's history. Unique yes, but again so is everyone else's. We can go back and forth about "well this group was the first to..." all day long. But the bottom line is that each nationality had a history that is equally important. In fact, I'd say of all minority nationalities in the United States, I know more about black history than any other just because it is repeatively rammed down my throat through tv and the like. I probably know less about all other nationalty's origins combined and I know I'm not alone. That said, as other nationalities have been snubbed far worse by history and by tv than blacks have I feel that blacks are the least needy of their own class. Again, what about the Chinese American or the Irish American? Both have their stories and experiences to share. Just because they weren't enslaved doesn't make them any less important.
 
2006-04-04 01:06:53 PM
Albert Speer: You're forgetting a key fact: at no point after the end of slavery has anyone tried to keep the blacks here. They've been free to leave and make a better life for themselves for a long time, but they have choosen not to.

That might be the dumbest point I've ever read on fark.
 
2006-04-04 01:07:15 PM
Why Chromosome :
Thanks for the info on Collard Greens, we just call them salad greens. I had eaten them a coupla years ago, when we invited a black buddy & his family for Thanksgiving dinner @ our house & they brought "collet" greens. Guess he was talking jive. They were good but did have to pass when he splained what "chiterlings" or "chitlins" were. Buzzy.

/What's up with the new Chevy Tahoe commercials, white people can't buy em anymore?
 
2006-04-04 01:09:08 PM
Headso

How can I say it is different? Because it is, no other group in American history has been forcibly taken from their country of origin by the boatload then been subjected to slavery only to be freed into a separate but equal thing that lasted up until a short time ago, we still have blacks alive today that couldnt drink from a white water fountain.


I could summarize the history of any major ethnic immigrant group and I assure you it would be unlike that of any other group. Different ethnic groups have had different American experiences.

What makes Blacks' experience different? Is it the "forcibly removed from homeland" part? People from other ethnic groups were also forcibly removed from their homelands and sent to the USA. Is it the "slavery" part? Again, slaves of all colors existed. The "seperate but equal" part? Ask many Americans of Middle-Eastern origin how they are treated even today.

The only possible justification I can see for having a seperate and special "Black History Month" is that Blacks are the most numerous minority group in the USA. Given that, one would expect Black History Month to be canceled once Latinos become the most numerous minority group.
 
2006-04-04 01:09:36 PM
Kanyon: "There is no separate Chinese history who were instrumental in our nationwide rail system. There is no separate Irish Ameircan history as they were the first group of immigrants to really feel unwelcomed by Americans already here and so on and so forth."

Headso: "But black people have had a unique American experience from the days of slavery until the late 50s, and arguably till this day. that is why the subject needs to be treated uniquely."

me: But the Chinese and the Irish and every other race that came to America *didn't* have a 'unique American experience'..? I think that by your argument, EVERY race that has ever come to this country deserves their own History Month. They all underwent their own, unique trials and challenges in trying to assimilate into this culture... Or are you saying that the African American people are somehow more deserving than every other race that came here?
 
2006-04-04 01:10:00 PM
Both of the major rap/hip-hop stations here in Houston are constantly running commercials for Bail Bonds companies, and the commercials are always remake of a current rap song.

Any other major cities have these? I can't believe those things are allowed to air.
 
2006-04-04 01:10:03 PM
Albert Speer

If you don't understand why in 1926, it was deemed necessary for blacks to have distinct attention paid to their heritage and history, then I'm afraid you would never understand my explanation.
 
2006-04-04 01:10:06 PM
That might be the dumbest point I've ever read on fark.

Care to enlighten me?
 
2006-04-04 01:11:44 PM
Headso
all those people you listed I learned about in school.

True you did. But did you learn it in the detail I described? Did you discuss varying accounts of constitutional philosophy of the founding fathers? Did you read the writings of Ben Franklin? Did you discuss all of Edison's invetions and the toil it took? His insane sleeping schedule? Did you delve into how Robert E. Lee was able to effectively defend against an army far larger than his own? etc. I highly doubt it.

Again. Black History is an in depth analysis of a race-based aspect of our history. White people should be allowed to have the same thing if this is going to be the standard.
 
2006-04-04 01:12:35 PM
Teutonic_Knight: I remember in my junior high school science class a time where racism was used.

Our teacher said African-Americans were more likely to get sickle-cell disease.


My teacher said the same thing! But at least he was fair... He also said that Caucasians were more likely to drown in a pile of their own $50 bills.

I mean, some people just need to lighten up... sheesh!
 
2006-04-04 01:13:25 PM
Albert Speer: Care to enlighten me?

Not particulary because you're either really retarded for making such an ignorant comment or you're trolling.
 
2006-04-04 01:13:32 PM
How about an aboriginal-history month? They were only here for 12,000 years before whitey came along. And they were the target of genocide, unlike blacks who were only enslaved. It seems to me that they have the most unique American experience.
 
2006-04-04 01:14:25 PM
I know nobody cares, but the average BET.com user is 11% more likely to have eaten McDonalds in the past 30 days than the average internet user.

/7% less likely to have eaten fast food as a category
//what does it mean??
 
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