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(Yahoo)   Workaholics Anonymous: Helping people lead saner lives and stop screwing up the curve for the rest of us   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 56
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2006-03-29 08:31:28 AM  
It's been my experience that those folks who self-identify as "workaholics" tend to pretty much suck at what they do...that's why they have to be workaholics. What most good workers can do in 4 hours, it takes workaholics 8.

At my office (of course this is just anecdotal), the people who tend to work long hours and run around with their hair on fire biatching about being "stressed out" are, almost to a person, really bad at what they do and really inefficient.

Conversely, the people who get the most work done in my office almost always tend to be those folks who don't look like they're doing anything at all.
 
2006-03-29 09:06:10 AM  
People are addicted to workahol?
 
2006-03-29 09:25:18 AM  
Some people wear the workaholic badge as a badge of honor. I don't understand that. Work to live, not live to work!
 
2006-03-29 09:25:27 AM  
Work is the disease. Fark is the cure.
 
2006-03-29 09:25:46 AM  
Sounds a bit like me. I can't sit still doing nothing productive. Not without feeling bad about myself, anyway.
 
2006-03-29 09:26:14 AM  
People who are self described workaholics are as annoying as those professing to be 'perfectionists' - they say it with pride like it means they're perfect when in fact they are anal retentive obsessive compulsive tyrants that border on meglomaniacs...
 
2006-03-29 09:29:03 AM  
"Now I'm more willing to try to do a mediocre job and keep my own mental health and sanity than to do the perfect job on everything I attempt," he said.

If only everyone had an excuse for mediocrity...
 
2006-03-29 09:30:20 AM  
maybe some ppl just work alot because tv is boring and they dont have the attn span for reading a book.
 
2006-03-29 09:30:55 AM  
I'm pretty sure that farkers are immune to this particular affliction. Because if you were really a workaholic, why are you wasting precious time here?
 
2006-03-29 09:31:08 AM  
I work with one of those napoleanic workaholics who mandates and must control everything - he's maybe 5'1" (he claims 5'6" - HA!!)drives a huge Ram 4x4 that he needs a friggin step ladder to get into... bald with ears that have no lobe - they just taper into his head with this elfish look, he's a rabid conservative who's constantly moralizing and blaming Democrats and hippies for everything...

One day I'm gonna snap - I sheet you not...
 
2006-03-29 09:31:45 AM  
I've often said that people who work a ton have a mental problem just like those who have other mental problems. It just happens that the workaholic's problem just happens to make them appear successful. I say "appear successful" because they might make more money or get promoted, but many of the workaholics are miserable and want everyone else to be so too.
 
2006-03-29 09:34:10 AM  
Ahh good. More dysfunctional habits being cast as a 'disease'... with God as the cure.
 
2006-03-29 09:36:21 AM  
Submitter,

Verb agreement. Look into it.
 
2006-03-29 09:36:50 AM  
Bah! Pikers.
 
2006-03-29 09:38:10 AM  
I have found in my 39+ years on this planet that work as we know it today is highly over-rated.

I try to do as little as possible because much like an pro athlete I don't ever feel I get paid enough, making +/- $200,000/year is really a paltry sum for having to be a leader. I need to really re-evaluate this and get to the core of me.........okay I am done, can someone pick-up my dry cleaning?
 
2006-03-29 09:41:46 AM  
Notice how the Japanese are conspicuously absent from the list.

That's because they compensate for overworking by overdrinking.

BANZAI!
 
2006-03-29 09:41:53 AM  
I know one of these types, an accountant who works 80 hours a week.
I went over and helped him build a deck behind his house once.
He had to measure and re-measure everything six times before cutting or sinking a deck screw.

Now I understand why it takes him 80 hours to get 40 hours of work done.
 
2006-03-29 09:43:36 AM  
Fluid - I'm the same way.

Question is, do you feel bad that you aren't working for "the man" whoever that may be? Or do you just need to be busy, for yourself?

I'm the latter.
 
2006-03-29 09:44:28 AM  
bump: People who are self described workaholics are as annoying as those professing to be 'perfectionists' - they say it with pride like it means they're perfect when in fact they are anal retentive obsessive compulsive tyrants that border on meglomaniacs...

Yup. I especially love fat perfectionists.

And the workaholics I know just have nothing else going for them, so they just want to hang around work all day.
 
2006-03-29 09:45:06 AM  
sigdiamond2000: At my office (of course this is just anecdotal), the people who tend to work long hours and run around with their hair on fire biatching about being "stressed out" are, almost to a person, really bad at what they do and really inefficient.

Conversely, the people who get the most work done in my office almost always tend to be those folks who don't look like they're doing anything at all.


Not annecdotal.

The motto in my department "We get more done before 10 than the entire company does all day"

Still get our stuff done, on time, before time usually and have plenty of time to fark off on Fark.
 
2006-03-29 09:45:35 AM  
Headline needs 'to' before 'lead' and 'stop'. Sorry, I'm a dictionholic.
 
2006-03-29 09:47:03 AM  
when people stay late at my work, the bosses aren't all "wow, what dedication"

they are all like, "man, what the eff did you do for the last eight hours."

and they are right
 
2006-03-29 09:48:20 AM  
I'm kind of a workaholic. I go there almost every day, generally on time, and usually hang around until almost quitting time.
 
2006-03-29 09:48:22 AM  
copperheadclgp

I don't care for driving up any company's production rates, mostly for myself. I feel like I should at least be contributing SOMETHING to the world.
 
2006-03-29 09:48:25 AM  
When I joined the 8-hr a day work world, I was expecting to be working those full eight hours. The most i've ever worked in a day is maybe three, then the work is done and I Fark all day. This is much easier than advertised.
 
2006-03-29 09:48:27 AM  
OldeFarquer

when you think about it though, from a fundamentalist view, and applying logic that'd be like "well, John gave you the flu, so here's John to cheer you up" "hey, this is me, John, i gave you the flu, don't you feel better with me here?"
 
2006-03-29 09:57:17 AM  
Where can we hire these workaholics? We need to balance our workforce.
 
2006-03-29 09:58:49 AM  
bouts of brilliance maybe some ppl just work alot because tv is boring and they dont have the attn span for reading a book.

are you one of those ppl that don't have the attn span for typing people and attention span?

/English teacher
//called in a substitute
///already bored with daytime tv
 
2006-03-29 09:59:12 AM  
NakedApe

I'm kind of a workaholic. I go there almost every day, generally on time, and usually hang around until almost quitting time.

Me Too!!! Maybe we could start a support group or somethin'. Nah, that sounds like too much work.
 
2006-03-29 10:07:17 AM  
In exactly two weeks, I'm giving my two weeks notice. Guess how motivated I am?
 
2006-03-29 10:13:10 AM  
The last 5 years of my job I've settled for a less than stallar raise because I refused to work free overtime. The way I figure, if they want me more than 8 hours out of me they can goddamn pay for it. I value my free time with my soon-to-be-wife much more than a paltry 2% extra per year that'll just get eaten up by taxes anyway.

Interesting post script: They changed the way my job is classified and I'm now hourly. Suddenly and inexplicably, the expectation of free overtime has stopped.
 
2006-03-29 10:14:36 AM  
Who cares?
They'll all be dead from a heart attack sooner than later.

Good riddance!
 
2006-03-29 10:16:36 AM  
I've got a workaholic as a work partner. I sit on Fark all day, he does all the work, and both of our names end up on it. I buy all his beer every Friday because... well... bless his heart.
 
2006-03-29 10:17:35 AM  
People who work a lot don't know what they are doing, or simply have no friends.

Life is not about stock.
 
2006-03-29 10:18:16 AM  
Crucify them all. It will satisfy the martyr complex they love to have.
 
2006-03-29 10:24:56 AM  
ryandee:

I've noticed that at many places, the attitude among management seems to be that if you come in early, you're viewed as being industrious in "getting an early start to the day," but if you stay late, it's because you were farking off all day and need to catch up.

Yet another example of the tyranny of the so-called "morning people".

/sooooo not a morning person.
 
2006-03-29 10:29:30 AM  
geekbikerskum: Yet another example of the tyranny of the so-called "morning people".

And they're about to steal an hour from us. When I roll in at 7:30, they're going to call it 8:30. Where's the justice in that?
 
2006-03-29 10:31:19 AM  
My dad was a workaholic, for a while. He'd go to work at 6, usually would make it home for dinner at 7. He explained to us that "that's what top-level engineers have to do".

After he got laid off from three places in the space of about ten years, and my mom was diagnosed with cancer, his priorities changed in a hurry.

I learned a lot from him...mostly, that being a workaholic didn't pay. I make enough money to comfortable--I could make more, but I'd rather spend time with my kids.
 
2006-03-29 10:33:55 AM  
Some places, if your efficient and get your work done quickly and correctly they will just keep dumping more work on you. Then you absorb that extra work and crank it out too. They will keep dumping more work on your schedule as long as they can get away with it.
Salaried wage (aka: free overtime) is the bulk of the problem with people working too many hours in the US. They need to force employers to pay OT to salaried workers, even if they just look at total hours at the end of the year and force them to pay OT for the hours over 40hrs per week total.
If most people that work tons of hours take their salary and the hours they work in a year and convert it to hourly they are getting paid squat.
 
2006-03-29 10:38:57 AM  
Trust me, if someone has a martyr complex about being a workaholic, then they're probably not a workaholic. They're just attention whores. Most workaholics try to hide the problem since it's not something they're proud of. It's really debilitating and I definitely don't think it's something to be proud of. It's too bad that it's something that a large part of society praises.

As far as the time drain goes, it's also possible that they are so overextended, all their projects take a long time to finish. But really, workaholics don't want to get lots of work done, they just want to work. It's not the sense of accomplishment that drives them (like most people), it's the work itself. So of course, it will take them a long time to finish projects -- there is no psychological reward in completion.
 
2006-03-29 10:39:22 AM  
Over here we have a theory that the reason why our managers do all of the travelling and workaholic-ing is because they have crappy marraiges and want to get away from their wives.
 
2006-03-29 10:49:06 AM  
Leave workahol for workaholics, alcohol for alcoholics! Could this perfect world really be?
 
2006-03-29 10:52:59 AM  
Over here we have a theory that the reason why our managers do all of the travelling and workaholic-ing is because they have crappy marraiges and want to get away from their wives.

Hmmm... work late a lot vs. nagging, sexless existance at home...

Pretty smart guys really...
 
2006-03-29 11:33:40 AM  
After he got laid off from three places in the space of about ten years, and my mom was diagnosed with cancer, his priorities changed in a hurry.

Well, yeah, I'd say so. Nothing like learning from three different places that he was expendable. Dedicated? Shows up early? Gets stuff done? Ehhh...fark him anyway, out the door, bro, we need to 'cut costs' ehehhehehehe.

And then, of course, his wife gets the Big C.

Ah, three big F's then a big C. That's a life changing experience, you bet your ass.
 
2006-03-29 11:48:29 AM  
Quackedtheduck

When I joined the 8-hr a day work world, I was expecting to be working those full eight hours. The most i've ever worked in a day is maybe three, then the work is done and I Fark all day. This is much easier than advertised.


1.) I'd sure like your job.

2.) The downside of your only doing 3 hours of work in a day is that sooner or later, Mister Efficiency Expert is going to figure out that one person doing 6 hours of work in an 8 hour day is a heck of a lot cheaper to pay than 2 people doing 3 hours of work in same period of time.


/2nd sick day in a row for me
 
2006-03-29 12:21:01 PM  
Bump

(I read your profile)
I work in visual F/X in NYC. Dunno what it is about this business, but there are tons of people who expect you to bust your ass week after week for nothing. I've worked for a few people like your boss. They can all kiss my ass.

Even as a freelancer, every once in a while, I get a funny look from people when I cut out after my 10 hour-freelancer-day is up.

I love freelance, more time off, more money per day, less hassle/politics from douchebags.
 
2006-03-29 01:20:42 PM  
You know what we really need? Attention Whores Anonymous. All the politicians who pass laws depending on the PR instead of on how much good they'll do, all the celebrities and PETA members period, all shuffled into meetings where they can...

Wait a minute. Attention Whores Anonymous.

Attention Whores.

Anonymous.

Nah, it wouldn't work.
 
2006-03-29 01:47:10 PM  
This article doesn't allow for people who HAVE to work that hard.

I live in Chicago, and I have a full time job. I get just enough to pay rent, and clothes. Granted I do have health insurance. I don't particularly like what I do THAT much, and I have a second career that I've been pursuing. As a result I have 10 hour days. 8 or so hours at my "job" and an additional 3 hours at night at rehearsals, performances, gigs (I'm a pianist). That's not to mention practicing, making phone calls to performers, clients (I'm also a music broker).

Could I be a workaholic? Sure. But at the rate I'm going, I need to be if I'm ever going to get out of working for a place I don't like the work.
 
2006-03-29 02:01:56 PM  
i hate most work, but i think i might be addicted to my job. i find it fun n' fascinatin', and i could fixate on things for months on end.

it's not workaholism if you love doing it because you are hardcore into it. work addiction is only bad if you just program yourself to go in and work, meet deadlines, finish projects, make deals, procure more money and GOTO 10. people who love what they do can still go on fark and have lives and don't act martyrish, 'cause they're doing their hobbies for a living.
 
2006-03-29 04:08:14 PM  
I guess I might have been a "workaholic", but I don't think I did it on purpose. Just like someone else already mentioned, I was completing jobs more efficiently than everyone else, and raised the bar a bit. Unfortunately that lead to an increasingly heavy workload until I was putting in 70 to 80 hours a week (thank god it was hourly). I kept it up for a while, but it burned me out...just like the article says. I just felt like I needed to be the best at what I was doing.

Fortunately I'm cynical and dissillusioned now and I don't care if I'm the best.

My father passed on a great bit of advice to me once, and I try to live by that now. He said, "FarkinOgre, don't kill yourself at work, it's not worth it, it will just make you tired and bitter. You're a smart guy, you don't need to give them '110%', you could give 80% and still outperform most of the idiots out there."

He's right, and I'm less tired and less stressed living that way. My new motto, "Let's go out there and give it a full 80%!!!"

GO TEAM!!
 
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