Does anyone else see the irony of this taking place in a U.A.E. port?

On a sad note: It will kill the career of the Captian of the destroyer.

One of my best friends just left that ship for shore duty. Ya, new CO here real soon.

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Any boat people or Navy people want to tell us how this happens?

Shiatty navigation and the fact that a 30,000 ton vessel doesn't stop on a dime, or a million of 'em.

High contact density navigation is hell...especially in submarines (my community). We even have to worry about 'em not seeing us, if we're shallow/at PD.

That's why I'm an engineer...I just push :)

ex-coastie navigator... never hit another boat, but i've run em' aground a few times (mostly on purpose...)

/not motored, steamed...

subsailor: High contact density navigation is hell...

You got that right. Our standing orders were 6k yards minimum distance from any contact whenever possible, at 4k yards the CO was supposed to be called immediately, surfaced or submerged. Merchants don't tend to turn out of the way because it costs them money everytime they add distance to their journey.

Radioactive Ass: Our standing orders were 6k yards minimum distance from any contact whenever possible, at 4k yards the CO was supposed to be called immediately, surfaced or submerged.

Things haven't changed much...those sound familiar from my last boat (don't know about current, spending my tour there in drydock). I've seen an emergency deep (in the middle of a delayed recovery...on the EPM...for real) due to coming up to snorkel and finding someone inside 1k (yes, 1K...sonar got him as we came through a shallow layer...if I would have had a bucket of coal, I'd be rich beyond Bill Gates...)

Radioactive Ass: submerged

Oh, for your list I think ICC_SS/SW_USN is a bubblehead, too... :)

subsailor: if I would have had a bucket of coal, I'd be rich beyond Bill Gates

I've had a few of those moments as well. I had a crazy CO that backed down at test depth, and announced it on the 1MC as we did it. Needless to say we were well outside of the envelope at that time. I also wasn't too happy when we did an emergency blow at TD (Alpha trials) mainly because as a non-qual-dink-puke I didn't know that the check valves blew water out into the TR and I was standing right next to one... I was truely close to making that poopy suit a real poopy suit if you know what I mean.

Atleast it didn't turn into this..

The song is way too addictive..

Radioactive Ass: I also wasn't too happy when we did an emergency blow at TD (Alpha trials) mainly because as a non-qual-dink-puke I didn't know that the check valves blew water out into the TR and I was standing right next to one... I was truely close to making that poopy suit a real poopy suit if you know what I mean.

YAAAAA HAHAHAHA! We had a guy fall for that and actually call away flooding when we were retesting our EMBT blow valves on my first boat.

It is scary, though...poopy suit, indeed!

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On a sad note: It will kill the career of the Captian of the destroyer.

That it will, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Some people with commands are real asshats. As a rule of thumb commanding naval officers are either the best or worst people you can find without a lot of wiggle room. They're God onboard that ship so some turn into great paternal figures and others just become real jerks.

subsailor

The nuke program keeps tracking my landbound arse down. Worth signing up with them as a nuclear engineer or worst decision of your life?

oh joy, all of the bubblehead nerds and their sea stories are now taking over the story about a surface ship incident. My brother was a bubblehead. ALL of his stories start with "I'm not supposed to tell you this, but..."

Get a clue you guys... not everyone likes your acronym-filled, jingoistic, boring stories.

lol good one submitter i remember when my boss did that and i told him to get outa there w/o note.

/he was dunk as a skunk

gregp1369: Get a clue you guys... not everyone likes your acronym-filled, jingoistic, boring stories.

I do. Continue.

"not everyone likes your acronym-filled, jingoistic, boring stories."

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Then don't come to a thread that is bound to be filled wit Sea Stories.

P.S.

There are no lights at night. Its called "Darken Ship". Not that you bubbleheads would know anything about that....

With all the radar crap they have on those things, and they STILL hit something with it. Raytheon has some explaining to do.

Heh..it's been said earlier in this thread, but large boats don't exactly turn on a dime. Small boats don't turn on a dime either.

How does a navy ship hit a merchant vessel?

I mean, we have radar don't we?
Or do they just have pirate radar?

In the latter case, im surprised the crash even occured.

I can't understand half of what is being said in this thread, and I like it!

2006-03-26 07:56:54 PM gregp1369

oh joy, all of the bubblehead nerds and their sea stories are now taking over the story about a surface ship incident. My brother was a bubblehead. ALL of his stories start with "I'm not supposed to tell you this, but..."

Get a clue you guys... not everyone likes your acronym-filled, jingoistic, boring stories.

You know, I'm usually the asshole that makes those kinds of remarks. And as much as I agree with you, this is a Navy/boat thread. By nature there are going to be tons of crappy Navy stories in here. You should move onto another thread where we can hear stories about your Mom not giving you allowance last week, or how doing chores sucks.

Also, the worst threads are the Japan-related ones. Those are filled to the brim with stupid assholes telling us about how cool eating sushi and living in Tokyo is.

I was on the USS Inchon many years ago (I was a Marine on a Navy ship) and we were refueling another ship. The other ship got caught in our wake and plowed into the side of us, tearing our aircraft elevator almost completely off. I was closest to it beause I was too stoned to know what was going on. Words can't describe how massive that "crunch" is. It peeled up 2 inches of steel and concrete like a can opener.

Scariest.Moment.Evar.

Even with advances in maritime technology large vessels do not handle all that well (sort of like a bathtub on casters).

whyerhead:

Atleast it didn't turn into this..

The song is way too addictive..

I think an Andrea Doria reference would be more apt.

You know, because the Stockholm collided with it on 25 july 1956 (she sank in the early morning of 26 july 1956 after 11 hours of gradually listing starboard); it did not just go down like the E. Fitzgerald.

References to the Andrea Doria include the Seinfeld episode "The Andrea Doria."

"not everyone likes your acronym-filled, jingoistic, boring stories."

I do. Go on, folks. Just save the classified info. Or Jack Bauer will hunt you.

BTW, abould the screw-up:

Ship's homepage
Commanding officer

I think the article was too devoid of any facts to make claims about the CO's career. That said, I'm going to make an asshat speculation and say it was the merchant ship's fault.

It was the merchant ship's fault.

...add one more bubblehead nerd with acronyms

former MM2(SS) was an ELT on an SSBN, did a couple of short patrols on a SSN while I was the SNOB.

subsailor
God I miss Hawaii! If you are a diver, I bet you have been up to "Pray for Sex" and done some bugging.

Collider?

I barely know 'er.

/whaddya know? my password still works!

Odd, I was just reading about RMS Queen Mary vs. HMS Curacoa.

(link)

(Summary - QM won in a big way)

gregp1369: Get a clue you guys... not everyone likes your acronym-filled, jingoistic, boring stories.


Yeah, but some of us do.

I have never expected, in my life, to read a news story involving the nation of Kiribati on the news. But what do you know.

/and it's relatively close to where I used to live.

You noticed that, too, huh sn stain?

I think it's pretty funny.

"Yes, hello press corps, we've called you here to announce that a merchant vessel and a navy vessel have recently collided. Thank you, that is all."

"So, these two ships that collided, what were they doing?"

"Thank you. That is all."

I figure someone is going to post this... so I might as well.


ACTUAL transcript of a US naval ship with Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October, 1995. This radio conversation was released by the Chief of Naval Operations on 10-10-95.
Americans: "Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision."

Canadians: "Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision."

Americans: "This is the captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course."

Canadians: "No, I say again, you divert YOUR course."

Americans: "THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN, THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES' ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH. THAT'S ONE-FIVE DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP."

Canadians: "This is a lighthouse. Your call."


From Snopes.com. False.

But a story. :)

If only I could have made this happen.

cardoso: BTW, abould the screw-up:

Ship's homepage
Commanding officer

Man.. even Jesus couldn't avoid this merchant ship.

This thread needs more seamen!

Ramming speed!

cardoso:

Whoa, the have a Command Master Chief Jesus!

"I was reading about that aircraft carrier that ... ran into a destroyer and was dry docked for two months.
...
Any boat people or Navy people want to tell us how this happens?"

I was on a destroyer that collided with an aircraft carrier (maybe the same one you read about). Anyway, it's easier than you might think. You're supposed to pass on the right (port-to-port) unless the other ship is obviously going to pass on the wrong side (starboard-to-starboard), because you don't want to cut in front of each other to pass on the right. But what if you're approaching a ship that's almost, but not clearly on the wrong side? One decides to pass port-to-port, the other decides to pass starboard-to-starboard; it turns into a dance like when you are trying to get around someone you meet in a hallway. Except big ships can't just stop and sidestep each other. They zigzag a couple of times and crash.

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Also, the worst threads are the Japan-related ones. Those are filled to the brim with stupid assholes telling us about how cool eating sushi and living in Tokyo is.

Heh heh, totally!! I'd just reaplace stupid assholes telling us about how cool eating sushi and living in Tokyo is with 'closet pedophile americans who make the same perv jokes again and again about underage females'. Then I'd totally agree with you!!!!

gregp1369:

My brother was a bubblehead. ALL of his stories start with "I'm not supposed to tell you this, but..."

Get a clue you guys... not everyone likes your acronym-filled, jingoistic, boring stories.

Your family called. They want you and your brother to stop all your bitter feuding so they can all be one big happy family again. It's poisoning everything.

"With all the radar crap they have on those things, and they STILL hit something with it. "

Eh, actually, in heavy weather, you can have radar-assisted collisions...where you'd ordinarily pass, well, like ships in the night...

Will a Marie Celeste reference help?


Life in Dark Water
Al Stewart

Oh come away from the day, here I stay
Living on the bottom of the sea
Down metal snake corridors steely grey
Engines hum for nobody but me
No sound comes from the sea above me
No messages crackles through the radio leads
They'll never know, never no never
How strange life in dark water can be

Oh mariners spare a thought when you pass
Those who live the submarine life
Far in the deep sonar eyes never sleep
Hiding like a shadow in the night
Jet planes nose through the clouds above me
They look for radar traces of me to see
They'll never know, never no never
How strange life in dark water can be

Wonder what the stars look like
Coming out tonight
Tell my girl she must be strong
She sits and waits all night long
Just looking for a better day
She'll have to find another way to go

No memory, tell me what's wrong with me
Why am I alone here with no rest
And now the name of the ship's not the same
How long has it been "Marie Celeste?"
Now there's nobody from the crew left
Five hundred years supply of food just for me

They'll never know, never no never
How strange life in dark water can be

Yes, it does happen every now and then despite all the technology, training, and "rules of the road." The potential reasons are numerous. If I tried to discuss them you all would just exercise your mouse wheels.

No, the CO is not necessarily going to be relieved, and there is recent evidence that shows it's not guaranteed. (McFAUL vs. WINSTON CHURCHILL: Two destroyers bumped during a training exercise--neither CO was relieved).

/Guided Missile Destroyer "plankowner"
//DDG-74 (McFAUL, but that collision was AFTER my tour)
///Go on, bubbleheads, post your periscope pictures and start fapping!

"I'm sure that scratch will buff right out...let's not get the insurance companies involved...ok?"

/Cap'n Crunch

From TFA: Oil passing through the terminals is the main source of revenue for Iraqi reconstruction.

Shenanigans! The American taxpayer, (or to be more precise, the future American taxpayer), is the main source of funds for Iraq's reconstruction.

/Yes, I know it said "revenue", but that is still very misleading.