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(CBC)   Universal to offer movie downloads starting April 15th. It's a steal at only $40 per movie download   (cbc.ca) divider line 155
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2006-03-23 12:32:08 PM
If they would offer this on opening day, then I would use it. I'd pay $40 to get a new movie at home, considering I'd pay $20+ at the theater and then another $20 for the DVD anyway.
 
2006-03-23 12:35:26 PM
The latest releases are priced at 19.99 ($40.46), with older films selling for 9.99 pounds ($20.23).

That's more than twice the amount you'd pay for a physical copy. Considering you're not getting the physical media and the nice case to show in your dvd collection, it should be more like 70-80% of the normal cost. Is it me, or do the music and movie industries have insane economists working for them? It almost seems like they have no concept of supply and demand - as though their attitude is that people should buy whatever they produce regardless of how crappy it is and regardless of how overpriced it is.
 
2006-03-23 12:36:40 PM
Blues_X: If they would offer this on opening day, then I would use it. I'd pay $40 to get a new movie at home, considering I'd pay $20+ at the theater and then another $20 for the DVD anyway.

Yeah, but I really think that when they say "new releases" they mean newly released to dvd.
 
2006-03-23 12:38:17 PM
So, for a DRM'ed and probably lower quality version of a movie, I pay more than I would for a real copy of the DVD? I'm not sure what they're thinking here, it's not like anybody is clamoring for digital downloads so much that they don't care what they cost.

Am I the only person who sees a digital download as a lesser product than a physical DVD? Especially if it's DRM'ed and can disappear at the whim of the content providers. There's no way I'm going to pay as much for a chunk of bits and bytes as I would for a hardcopy of anything. Isn't the whole point of Digital Downloads to make the product cheaper by cutting out the cost of media, packaging, and shipping?

These movie execs must be on a different planet from the rest of us, because they sure as heck don't seem to understand what people want.
 
2006-03-23 12:39:33 PM
Heh, Crazy_Gaijin beat me to much of what I meant to say... Good show.
 
2006-03-23 12:40:24 PM
"The time is only 12 to 18 months away when you will be able to put the kettle on, get the kids ready and then have a great movie to watch, said Lovefilm CEO Mark Livingstone."

That explains a lot. He was probably wearing an onion on his belt.
 
2006-03-23 12:43:04 PM
Good Idea.
Put the theaters out of business. These studios are too farking selfish.
 
2006-03-23 12:46:40 PM
crazy_gaijin: Considering you're not getting the physical media

Yes, you are.
 
2006-03-23 12:48:35 PM
"Downloading is expected to take 40 minutes to an hour."

Right. At 6mb/s it takes about 2 hours to download 4.5gb of data. at 10mb/s, maybe 90 minutes or so. So how do they propose anyone can download a movie in even one full hour?

"The service will use Microsofts digital rights management technology"

Forget it.

"The time is only 12 to 18 months away when you will be able to put the kettle on, get the kids ready and then have a great movie to watch,"

No, you won't, unless you're getting 25mb/s.
 
2006-03-23 12:48:44 PM
I once paid $5 for a VHS copy of Donny and Marie's "Goin' Coconuts."

Don't judge me, nothing you say can hurt me more than the ritualistic self-flagellation that is watching the damn thing.
 
2006-03-23 12:52:47 PM
"Downloading is expected to take 40 minutes to an hour."

Thats because you will be paying $40 for something of poor resolution, with watermarks flashed throughout it...

And this is going to stop piracy how?...
 
2006-03-23 12:53:54 PM
Guys....you do get a DVD too, sent to you in the mail.

It's still too expensive, but you can quit whining about not having the pretty box & such.
 
2006-03-23 12:54:48 PM
maybe you download them so you dont have to have so many dvds on your shelf..or when you go on an airplane you could have your entire collection with you.



/still overpriced and useless
 
2006-03-23 12:55:16 PM
I don't imagine the bandwidth for such service would be cheap, and they're desired profit ratio for the venture is probably what is driving the high price, that and there is no competition in this field.

But $40? They're out of their farking minds.
 
2006-03-23 12:55:41 PM
From TFA:

"It will be provided in three formats: a file for downloading to a computer, a file for use on a portable device, and a DVD copy sent by mail. The downloads will not expire."

Not too bad - not great, but give it time.
 
2006-03-23 12:55:50 PM
Are these downloads in 1920x1080 HD? If not, I can get a DVD for half that.
 
2006-03-23 12:56:00 PM
I only go to theaters once or twice a year for movies I absolutely have to see. For everything else, I'll wait for Netflix thanks.

/V For Vendetta Sat. I know I am being set up for disappointment, but it is V dammit
 
2006-03-23 12:56:41 PM
thatfoolmatt
or when you go on an airplane you could have your entire collection with you.

You don't understand how DRM works do you?
 
2006-03-23 12:56:44 PM
Once the DVD is out you can download the movie online for FREE....
 
2006-03-23 12:56:50 PM
wanderfowl: I'm not sure what they're thinking here, it's not like anybody is clamoring for digital downloads so much that they don't care what they cost.

I think this is a testing the waters sort of move. You are absolutlely right in that there is no distribution costs (except for bandwidth) to release movies on the net. However, they want to reclaim their investment in the setup and the Microsoft DRM crap they had to r&d by taxing the early comers who will buy this stuff anyway because they like to be the first on the their block with shiney new toys.

Another reason they may be purposedly shrinking their available market by over-charging is because they may not understand yet how the technology scales, and are afraid if they charged $5 for a movie the servers would get overloaded and they would be paying more than $5 a head in bandwidth costs and server repairs.
 
2006-03-23 12:56:52 PM
Rediculous.

People willing to pay that much for a movie are ridiculous. Whats next? Downloadable Video Games for $100?
 
2006-03-23 12:56:54 PM
This is one of the most hilariously retarded things I've ever heard. Congrats Universal
 
2006-03-23 12:56:55 PM
I think is is $40 CND, not $40 USD. It would be about $35 US. Still expensive, but slightly more reasonable.
 
2006-03-23 12:56:56 PM
This is in England people. Those silly Brits already pay way more for everything. A big mac meal costs like $12 over there. I don't know how much a dvd costs but I reckon its more than $40. Nonetheless, this is a stupid idea.
 
2006-03-23 12:57:00 PM
Too farking expensive!
 
2006-03-23 12:57:14 PM
BTW that is 19.99 BPS is $40 Canadian, in real money it is $34.94
 
2006-03-23 12:57:20 PM
When can i start downloading "Snakes on a Plane"?
 
2006-03-23 12:57:21 PM
Bwha Hahahaha.

What could possibly go wrong right?

/hello Netflix
//betcha the download will be full of adverts
 
2006-03-23 12:57:23 PM
i liked it better when they first offered them. They called them DVDs.
they were cheaper too.
 
2006-03-23 12:57:41 PM
Why would you bother with the LQ DRM softcopy chewing into your monthly ISP transfer limit when an actual DVD is coming in the mail?

Why would you wait for it in the mail when you can go to the damn store and buy it right NOW?

Dumbasses. The guys in sales & marketing will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.
 
2006-03-23 12:57:49 PM
This isn't *quite* as bad as it sounds, but I still can't see many people taking part in this.

They're charging 20 pounds, which is $40 Canadian, not just for the movie download, but also for the DVD itself. The DVD alone would be $25-$30+ Canadian, so you're paying an extra $10-$15 (maybe less, I've seen blockbuster DVDs as high as $36 Canadian) to get the digital format, and to get it right away when the DVD comes out.

We just like to complain cause most of us probably get our movies for free.
 
2006-03-23 12:57:58 PM
They don't really think people will pay that ridiculous amount. It's just so that they can whine to lawmakers that they gave people a legal alternative but there are still pirates. Either that or they just plain hate us.
 
2006-03-23 12:58:07 PM
Netflix owns these people.... Waiting a few extra days after DVD release saves me $40.
 
2006-03-23 12:58:30 PM
The service will use Microsofts digital rights management technology, designed to prevent people from duplicating the films, burning them to disc or uploading them to the Internet.

rofl...yea that's safe. thanks for the heads up though.
 
2006-03-23 12:58:34 PM
Good point we_hates...

good point indeed...


//I've got nothin
//Good point though
 
2006-03-23 12:58:55 PM


Right. At 6mb/s it takes about 2 hours to download 4.5gb of data. at 10mb/s, maybe 90 minutes or so. So how do they propose anyone can download a movie in even one full hour?


ho ho ho...no 4.5gb resolution for you. they will undoubtedly be using some form of compression technology, which they claim will be lossless, but won't really be.

so, lower quality, Microsoft DRM, no media or DVD physical material. yes, of course this is worth paying more for, how obvious.....
 
2006-03-23 12:59:10 PM
vonClogg: Netflix owns these people.

Not to mention when Netflix begins their own movie download section.
 
2006-03-23 12:59:12 PM
That explains a lot. He was probably wearing an onion on his belt.

that was the style at the time.
 
2006-03-23 12:59:44 PM
vliam: Yes, you are.

No.. no your not.

A physical product allows you to make copies.
A physical product allows portability, which from the sounds of this does not have.
A physical product contains artwork, features, case, etc.. extra materials not present in a digital copy

Information likes to run free, trying to constrain it is impossible. There is not a single peice of digital information that has not frollicked unhampered and virtually unimpeded through the veritiable jungle, forests, and grasslands of the internet.

For an corpororation to think that they can put a lid on it, is proof that the board members have their heads up their collective asses.

Instead of attempting to fix profit margins by offering a lower quality, restricted product which does nothing but alienate consumers they ought to just accept fate and change the business model to the changing technology.
 
2006-03-23 01:00:13 PM
ThatFoolMatt: maybe you download them so you dont have to have so many dvds on your shelf..or when you go on an airplane you could have your entire collection with you.

I can already do that. I rip every dvd I buy to put on my file server. Why would I pay more money for simple format shifting? Espically when I would get a DRM'd peice of shiat.
 
2006-03-23 01:00:17 PM
Article says april 10th, not 15th.

/just saying
 
2006-03-23 01:00:36 PM
i didn't rtfa, but if this is in britian, expect it to be a lot less in north america. itunes song downloads are crazy expensive over there too
 
2006-03-23 01:00:42 PM
So...

I can buy the DVD off the shelf for $20-$30 and rip my own to-be-viewed-on-the-computer copy of it whenever and how often I want and in any size, format and quality I choose.

Or I can pay double and take what they give me.

No thanks.
 
2006-03-23 01:00:52 PM
krazydiamond

If you are right (which sounds more plausible), who really needs a digital copy when you own the DVD itself? I certainly don't - all the DVDs I own have had their digital copies deleted the moment I ordered them off of Amazon.
 
2006-03-23 01:01:02 PM
mesman: Because it won't be DVD data rate. Standard DVD movies are (roughly) 7mbps. This will be in Windows Media format. That can offer "DVD Quality" at 1mbps, provided one uses the term pretty loosely. It will indeed encode a 720x480 29.97i stream at 1mbps and it is watchable, but there is noticably more artifacting than on DVD. At 2mbps, it is actually somewhat close, at least on SD TVs.

Basically, it's going to be a low quality stream, DRM'd with no extra features. Hey Universal, fark you.
 
2006-03-23 01:01:09 PM
williamzabka
knowing is half the battle.
 
2006-03-23 01:01:11 PM
williamzabka,

I know I am being set up for disappointment, but it is V dammit

No, you are NOT being set up for disappointment.

It's freakin badass.

Natalie Portman actually acted again. I haven't seen acting from her like this since The Professional. She was awesome.

Hugo Weaving was freaking sweet as V.

The cinematography was great.

The storyline rocked.

It had the best alliteration I've seen in a movie.

I've seen it twice. It's awesome!!
 
2006-03-23 01:01:35 PM
SuperT: I rip every dvd I buy to put on my file server. Why would I pay more money for simple format shifting?

Maybe you are paying more so that you dont have to spend your own time ripping the DVD because they are giving you the digital format in addition to the DVD.
 
2006-03-23 01:02:30 PM
Fear No God: rofl...yea that's safe. thanks for the heads up though.

Yea I was thinking the same thing.

You see how well that DRM thing is working out for some in the porn industry right?

..ohh yea you don't cause you can see every release that is fresh and ready to go on newzbin.com
 
2006-03-23 01:03:06 PM
Lentheman: People willing to pay that much for a movie are ridiculous. Whats next? Downloadable Video Games for $100?


I paid that much for NeoGeo games.
 
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