tarrant84 is "independent" in the same Bill O'Reilly is "independent"

Schulte: Perhaps, but the theory may assume those raised in a liberal family tend to grow up with liberal values, and those raised in a conservative family grow up with conservative values. Obviously that can't always be the case though.

youre right, and Thank God for that. There were enough people who grew up in an oppressive society to embrace liberal values and say ENOUGH of this enslaving of blacks and women, hispanics, asians, etc

aurorous: Didn't berkley godwin themselves 5 years ago when they claimed to have scientifically proven that EVERYONE who vote for George W Bush also agreed with hitler?

Such top notch thinking on your part should gaurantee you admission to Liberty University.

tarrant84: If they're so tough and committed to principles, why did they vote for Iraq? Why did they vote for the PATRIOT Act? Why do they vote for Bush budgets? Why won't they censure Bush for his wiretapping? Why won't they call for a mass pullout of Iraq?

Why won't they act like an OPPOSITION party?

because of a few reasons. One, voting against the war and against the patriot act leaves you wide open to knee jerk reactionists in the media and the sheep who follow only soundbites and hear something like "Max Cleland is anti-american as Saddam" and believe it.

The other is because most Democrats are profiteering off the war just like they all did during the faux cold war, with massive government welfare to the defense contractors

nashBridges: Do journalists do any fact checking at all anymore? Just because a college professor says something does not make it so.

do they ever? where was the outrage for the rush to war in Iraq? only now they start asking questions when its too late, and suddenly its this idea of the evil media always run by liberals?

THINK FOR YOURSELVES FOR ONCE. Look at reality, Conservatives are filled with hate, ignorance, fear, self-loathing, and a complete disregard for any sets of morals except their own cherrypicked pair

This deserves the "Asinine" tag. Why do Liberals do all the whining then? Liberals would rather roll over and let themselves get killed because they don't want to offend anyone by defending themselves. I see UC Berekely is still on drugs.

Darth_Vato: Liberals would rather roll over and let themselves get killed because they don't want to offend anyone by defending themselves.


defending yourself by being in Iraq or Afghanistan? Are you farking kidding me? Liberals are scratching their heads asking WTF Pakistan? Saudi Arabia? UAE? All "Allies"? The blind hypocrisy continues and the illogical knee jerk reactions and comments from the rush's peanut gallary also continue. The only person who is on drugs is you, and Rush, and Hannity, and anyone else who if transplated into Nazi Germany would support locking up of criminals who didnt go along with the weirmarch

The notion that the establishment is conservatives is untrue. In point of fact, there are plenty of features of the status quo that conservatives want to changes, and liberals want to keep, such as freely available abortion and lack of school vouchers.

I'd have to see that this study is reproducible, with good methodology, before I'd accept it. For example, how exactly would they judge a person's "conservativeness" or "liberality". Since the study has to study adults, to measure their politics, how can they tell how "whiny" they were as children? Such a recollected perception is by its nature highly vague and subjective.

grotto_man: Since the study has to study adults, to measure their politics, how can they tell how "whiny" they were as children?

because it followed them from early childhood possibly? Maybe you should read the actual study instead of drawing conclusions because you dont "want" it to be true

Submitter is obviously one of those whiny children.... and is now whining about this study.

One thing's for sure....your side is wrong/bad/stupid.

grotto_man: The notion that the establishment is conservatives is untrue. In point of fact, there are plenty of features of the status quo that conservatives want to changes, and liberals want to keep, such as freely available abortion and lack of school vouchers.

Don't confuse theocrats with conservatives, mmmkay?

Conservatives "grow up" into whiny children.

Big Al: Look at reality, Conservatives are filled with hate, ignorance, fear, self-loathing, and a complete disregard for any sets of morals except their own cherrypicked pair

I'm guessing you don't know very many educated conservatives, then. The Bush administration is not behaving in any manner that could be considered conservative from an historical viewpoint.

The religious right has hijacked a lot of the public arena because they are loud and relatively easy to manipulate, all you have to do is point to a court case that they disagree with and shout "SEE?"

However, they do not make up the majority of what would be considered "conservatives" in this country. They don't even make up half. I do not blindly follow Bush and I am rigidly against unneeded government involvement in my personal life.

The problem is that both parties are held to largely hypocritical positions that they cannot escape from because they are chasing the money. I'm not stupid, I realize Bush's tax cuts cannot stand forever because we are spending more than we are taking in. I also know that they saved my household almost 40 grand the first year they were in place.

I would gladly give that money back. Hell, part of it is going back anyway, since we run a non-profit for people who cannot pay their vet bills (how's that for an unusual cause for a conservative?) When it goes back, I'd love for it to go for funding for things that directly affect me, like roads in Northern Virginia or rehabilitation programs for criminals.

Where does it usually go? For both parties, through Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush II - ridiculous government spending with little oversight and even less success. The amount of my tax dollars (and yours) that simply vaporizes into nothing practical is mind-boggling.

Interesting mega-spin on this.

Respect for authority is interpreted as being "insecure" and "rigid".

So law abiding citizens are insecure. Dope smoking socialists are self-reliant.

Are you beginning to catch on to the word game they are playing? I can play too.

Heres my interpretation of the same data...

Popular secure, self-reliant high school jock type who ends up selling drugs and pimping out his girlfriends for a living votes liberal.

Popular secure self-reliant high school party slut who becomes an unmarried welfare queen baby factory votes liberal.

Nerds who study, play by the rules, and end up being wage-earning taxpayers vote conservative.

Same data differently worded conclusion.

What I'm taking from this article is that the "liberal" biased NPR was willing to run something criticizing a study that favored liberals.

I'm sure FOX often has programs that mock studies that favor conservatives.

Or maybe not...I guess that's why NPR is really the fair and balanced network.

Programmer Cat: No, idiot liter, I am a bastard of the "I take care of my own. You're not one of mine, so stay out of my way," school of thought.

So in other words you're a selfish self-centered self-righteous asshole, just a slightly different type than he first assumed.

Sloth_DC: Don't confuse theocrats with conservatives, mmmkay?

Don't tell him that, tell the GOP that. Until they stop confusing the two you can't blame anyone else for doing the same.

Programmer Cat: No, idiot liter

And by the way, five dollars makes you so farking special. How can we insignificant liters even survive in the blinding radiance of the fact that you spent five dollars. I personally am awed by total farkers when they throw the weight of their five dollar purchase around. More than anything else touting the superiority of your total fark status just screams that you obviously have no life and/or no moral compunction about goofing off all day at work and needed to spend five dollars to be able to waste even more time on fark.

The fact that you think that somehow the totalfark tags makes you special or superior is even more amusing. Really, enjoy total fark if you like, but to attempt to use the fact you paid five dollars to claim some sort of superiority is the kind of self-parody I'd except from an accomplished troll like mindbuzz. To see someone do it for real is simply precious.

nashBridges: The Bush administration is not behaving in any manner that could be considered conservative from an historical viewpoint.

sorry but lets go down the line of the "history of Conservatives"

against rights for women, blacks, minorities, the poor.

against government spending on welfare by pretending private capital will do enough

against taxes yet wants all the benefits of a free healthy society without paying the bill

etc

Study is not biased, when the kids were picked, political orientation wasn't even something they planned on assessing.

As usual, conservatives are whining about being persecuted, again.