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(Some Guy)   Think you can check into a hotel, go down to the bar and get drunk before returning to your room? Think again   (nbc5i.com) divider line 404
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2006-03-22 09:11:04 AM
Ok, so I go to the 'Gentlemans' bar and I get there early enough for the free buffet (like usual) but there is a two drink minimum since there was no cover charge. Say, for example, that after my two Long Island Teas that I'm sloshed, and basically drunk in public. I order a table dance. She's hot. Where am I going with this?

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2006-03-22 09:11:56 AM
"They serve the public. Therefore it's a PUBLIC bar."

You suck at fishing.
 
2006-03-22 09:12:48 AM
controlI fully support the legalized sale of poisoned drugs and alcohol to prevent their illegal use. Bars should randomly drop arsenic in the drinks of those who've had too much. That would solve this problem in a jiffy.

I'd go farther than that -- how about random executions or imprisonments, Stalin style. No rhyme or reason. That'll keep people on their toes. Besides, any government or police force that doesn't instill abject terror in the hearts of its citizens isn't trying hard enough.
 
2006-03-22 09:15:13 AM
mmm... pancake

PTW16
was making a reference, not a statement. It was a funny one, too. Think Ron White. If you don't know who Ron White is, get out of the thread. This is his world.
 
2006-03-22 09:18:26 AM
Is it too late to give Texas back to Mexico?
 
2006-03-22 09:18:31 AM
I remember this story from awhile back, except it happened in one of the Carolinas I believe. Some of the people arrested were just at the bar, and hadn't had anything to drink, they were DD.
 
2006-03-22 09:21:01 AM
Degarth: "Question how do we solve the problems of groups of drunken men who are 40+ years old hitting on a 12 year old girl as she is walking to the ice machine in the hotel?"

Who cares? She's probably going to ignore him or tell him to F off. Is this really a big deal, that some girl will be subject to (potentially) offensive speech for a minute or two?

Answer me this question...how do you solve the problem of the parent that lets his/her 12 year old daughter walk the hallways of a hotel, unescorted?

NOTHING. When did 12 year olds become incapable of going to an ice machine or walking through a hotel without an escort?
 
2006-03-22 09:21:41 AM

PTW16 was making a reference, not a statement. It was a funny one, too. Think Ron White. If you don't know who Ron White is, get out of the thread. This is his world.


I don't watch redneck comics. I live around enough white-trash as it is without having to watch it on television.
 
2006-03-22 09:23:47 AM
pedrop357:NOTHING. When did 12 year olds become incapable of going to an ice machine or walking through a hotel without an escort?

Didn't you get the memo? All children need to be guarded 24-7 by their parents from birth until their 18th birthdays. Anything less is neglect and/or abuse.
 
2006-03-22 09:25:54 AM
jshine:Didn't you get the memo? All children need to be guarded 24-7 by their parents from birth until their 18th birthdays. Anything less is neglect and/or abuse.

I should qualify that -- it's neglect and/or abuse, but only if something bad happens to the kind while unguarded. As long as nothing happens, then leaving a 12 year-old unguarded for some period of time is quite normal.
 
2006-03-22 09:25:55 AM
You suck at fishing.

You're forgetting my target audience.
 
2006-03-22 09:27:31 AM
Yep, there's some freedom for you. SUCK ON IT TEXAS!!! YOU ARE BIATCHES OF THE MAN!
 
2006-03-22 09:29:30 AM
Anyone who's lived in Texas long enough knows that TABC doesn't work for the state. It works for the Southern Baptist Convention and the Church of Christ, both of which would really prefer it if drinking were forbidden entirely in the state.

A decade or so back, TABC forbade the sale of Blackened Voodoo beer in Texas - supposedly for its 'occult' connection. Louisiana responded with a popular boycott of Texas products, and TABC backed down. What the fark does an alcoholic beverage commission have to do with deciding if a beer label is "religiously correct"?

/ran a bar in Texas
//campus pub, so TABC usually deferred to the campus police
///except for that one time they tried to bust us for after-hours parties. Campus police tried to explain to them that nothing was going on, but TABC wouldn't listen. They raided an empty bar, and went home embarrassed.
////slashies!
 
2006-03-22 09:32:09 AM
Icarus3
>>
>>Wren
>>Question how do we solve the problems of groups of
>>drunken men who are 40+ years old hitting on a 12 year old
>>girl as she is walking to the ice machine in the hotel?

Here's what you do: hire some feminazi black-belt 12-year-old girls to patrol the hallways.


That's hot.
 
2006-03-22 09:33:19 AM
Yep, little coppers need their power trips and pretty much says that part of texas sucks... nuff said.
 
2006-03-22 09:33:55 AM
i agree that "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" includes the right to get toasted and that arresting someone in a bar on the grounds that they might drive is an instance of arrest for "pre crime" but i point out two things, 1) we do not raise our best and brightest in this country to be policemen (they were being asshats, but what else is new) and 2) when reporters start relying on Steve Harvey for legal advice, they are not only being lazy but stupid. why the hell is Steve Harvey being extensively quoted for this article?
 
2006-03-22 09:36:18 AM
TABC officials said the sweep concerned saving lives, not individual rights.

Is TABC run by the same people that brought us the Patriot Act?

I, for one, am thankful they were concerned about the enormous safety issues concerning elevators in hotels.
 
2006-03-22 09:36:34 AM
TABC officials said the sweep concerned saving lives, not individual rights.

This one line says soooooo much about society today. Even beyond the article in mention....
 
2006-03-22 09:40:35 AM
Damn. I wish they would have done this when I was up in Chicago a few months ago on business. Perhaps they would have rescued me from sin and I would have made my flight back home.

I was celebrating a successful work week and decided to head down to the hotel bar. I wound up getting smashed with some guy from Ireland. The world series was on and we were having a great time up until close at 2:00 AM. I staggered back to my room and filled out one of those room service breakfast cards hung it on my door and passed out.

Five hours later a team of room service people were banging on my door with enough food to feed a small platoon. I ate my $92 breakfast passed out again and missed my flight home. Ohare is no place to be with a massive hangover.
 
2006-03-22 09:48:32 AM
Can't we all just go to church? Believe me, if you want to be high, find Jesus!

While this article brings up valid points about your lack of personal liberty in Texas (which seems particularly odd based on the attitude of its founders), why would anyone want to go to Texas? What else is there to do in Texas besides get drunk so that you do not care that you're in Texas?

In addition, why would anyone read a newssource that apparently employs Steve Harvey as a news correspondent?

should have asked Cedric the entertainer...or that guy from Hangin' with Mr. Cooper, or even Alfonzo Ribero...
 
2006-03-22 09:50:17 AM
Captain David Alexander (214) XXX-XXXX

Let's just say his number is easy to find on google.
 
2006-03-22 09:51:57 AM
While we are talking about charging people with crimes they did not actually commit, stop me if you heard this one before...

Two guys try to rob a gas station. Store clerk kills one guy. DA charges other guy with his accomplice's murder. No sympathy for the robbery, but how can one truly be charged with murder if you did not kill anyone?

This is where I live, and this scares the hell out of me, because I don't kill someone nearly every single day.

Oh, and it happened in Alabama, and the guy being charged is black. Surprised? They say that this is the first time they have tried this in AL, but that other states have done it. I don't know. But we are all farked as long as the legislators, DA's and judges no longer feel obligated to follow the constitution. Double Jeopardy prevents you from being tried for the same crime twice. What protects you from being charged with no crime once?

http://www.wiat.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WIAT/MGArticle/IAT_BasicArticle &c=MGArticle&cid=1137834840671&path=!news
 
2006-03-22 09:53:47 AM
chocoboat

You really need to study some more, boy.
 
2006-03-22 09:56:15 AM
As long as it's just texas that this happens in, I'm OK with it. They are (along with Florida and Ohio) primarily responsible for the atmosphere of this country, and so should be satisfied with the results of their actions. Maybe this coming election the people of Texas who just stood around and let the neocons do as they wished, will get off their asses and do something.

I'm from Florida, and I have been very proactive in talking to friends and acquaintences about the slippery slope they have put us on.

/no - it doesn't seem to do anything except make me look like a crazy, but I do get to go to all my F & A's and say "Told you so, told you so."
 
2006-03-22 09:56:18 AM
Calling out the entire US for something that happened once in Texas is like calling out every EU nation for some shiat that happened in Slovakia. Maybe not arresting drunks, but some other stuff like rampant police corruption.

Why would you pick Slovakia? Have you just recently seen Hostel? Slovakia does not have a rampant corrupted police force. Trust me the cops there leave you alone unless you commit a real crime. They are not commies......Bastid

/Sorry, I just find it unusual that this farker would pick Slovakia out of all the other countries.
//Proud of my Slovak heritage....
 
2006-03-22 09:56:55 AM
I, for one, welcome our new anti-drinking overlords.
 
2006-03-22 09:58:23 AM
"Republic. I like the sound of the word. It means people can live free, talk free, go or come, buy or sell, be drunk or sober, however they choose..."

John Wayne as Col. Davy Crockett in "the Alamo"
 
2006-03-22 09:58:57 AM
We need a Texas tag......
 
2006-03-22 10:00:07 AM
Irving is probably just trying to appear even more conservative in order to compete for W's Presidential library.

In order to compete for the library, Irving has "proposed to commit up to $50 million in hotel and motel tax revenue for a UD library and museum, described as George W. Bush Library and Institute at Freedom Park" (Dallas Morning News).
 
2006-03-22 10:02:51 AM
www.dennismansker.com

Is there a statute of limitation on public intoxication in Texas?
 
2006-03-22 10:05:42 AM
are you guys on crack? rip on TX all you want but this has everything to do with the TABC, which as others have said here in complete detail, has its own agenda.
also, this was in the dallas area. that place is just nuts. not austin nuts, but a close 2nd. cases in point - mark cuban & jerry jones.

wjllope.rice.edu
 
2006-03-22 10:07:18 AM
wjllope: are you guys on crack? rip on TX all you want but this has everything to do with the TABC

Doesn't the T in TABC stand for Texas?
 
2006-03-22 10:08:57 AM
2006-03-21 09:53:16 PM damnitkage [TotalFark]

As I'm from Houston, I used to think Texas was swell. Not anymore...


As I'm from Houston, imagine my shock when I moved to Dallas two years ago to find that there are large dry (no alcohol)/damp (beer and similar only) counties up here. WTF? North Dallas is very conservative (so am I but I likea drink now and again), but the alcohol issue is a polarizing one that divides even political party lines. Collin County is damp, but I've been told there are laws on the books that actually limit how much alcohol you can have in your home. Most bars and restaurants with bars make you join a "private club" so they can serve you legally to get around the law.
 
2006-03-22 10:10:26 AM
Get_Borked!: Doesn't the T in TABC stand for Texas?

clearly. they are HQ'd here. saying they represent TX or TX cops in general is silly.

when you're in TX look behind you. cause that's. where a ranger's. gonna be
 
2006-03-22 10:12:18 AM
Part of the problem is that there are too damned many overlapping law enforcement agencies.

You've got city police. County sherrifs. County constables. State Highway Patrol troopers. Alcoholic Beverage commission police. Texas Rangers (the Chuck Norris kind). Add the feds' alphabet soup: ATF, FBI, DEA, and INS.

And every single one of them has to look busy.

IMO, TABC should be about regulating the licenses of establishments that serve alcohol. Busting customers, that should be the jurisdiction of the local cops.
 
2006-03-22 10:14:31 AM
GodBlessTexas: As I'm from Houston, imagine my shock when I moved to Dallas two years ago to find that there are large dry

Harris county, not dry. Brazoria county (where i live), dry. not a biggie, we just drive 5miles up to the beltway. being the nrthern border of brazoria, there are of course several liquor stores there.
what's funnier is that in gas stations etc, you sometimes see Ice beers, sometimes not. i asked a beer truck driver about this at one point. he said the actual alcohol content of the beers varies slightly batch to batch. sometimes it's just under the maximum, and sold in brazoria, other times it isn't, and they can't sell it here.
now that's really nutty
 
2006-03-22 10:17:53 AM
Robobagpiper: too damned many overlapping law enforcement agencies

good point. it's even worse - houston has the houston police, plus the metro police often patrolling the same effing streets, plus i assume port police, not to mention all major school districts (HISD etc) have their own cops. plus rice campus cops, UH cops, etc etc

sigh
 
2006-03-22 10:18:58 AM
Robobagpiper:

Part of the problem is that there are too damned many overlapping law enforcement agencies.

You've got city police. County sherrifs. County constables. State Highway Patrol troopers. Alcoholic Beverage commission police. Texas Rangers (the Chuck Norris kind). Add the feds' alphabet soup: ATF, FBI, DEA, and INS.


you should visit houston. when we got 7 miles of light rail through downtown, we also were "blessed" with yet another local police agency (Metropolitan Transit Police). Instead of policing the Metro busses and light rail, they run around town making traffic stops as if they were Houston Police while the light rail leads the nation in accidents with automobiles and peds.

They ignore the transit infrastructure and instead concentrate on writing tickets for expired inspection stickers so thay can increase revenue to the Metro Police so that can hire more Metro cops to write more tickets for expired inspection stickers, etc, etc, etc.

It sucks. They are the least professional police i have ever seen in action. Next they will start adding to the sales tax so they can get their own SWAT team. Meanwhile, Metro infrastructure goes unpoliced because it isn't 'exciting enough' for Metro cops.
 
2006-03-22 10:19:47 AM
Well, this IS the same state our current idiot in power, I mean president hails from. Makes understanding the Patriot Act a whole lot easier... At least we know where the Shrub is getting his ideas from.
 
2006-03-22 10:21:00 AM
rocker5969
As long as it's just texas that this happens in, I'm OK with it. They are (along with Florida and Ohio) primarily responsible for the atmosphere of this country

Dude, you need to get out more, and possbily read more as well.

/not sure it will help
 
2006-03-22 10:23:12 AM
nerfball: you should visit houston.

robobagpiper went to Rice IIRC... he knows houston.
 
2006-03-22 10:26:43 AM
nerfball
you should visit houston. when we got 7 miles of light rail through downtown, we also were "blessed" with yet another local police agency (Metropolitan Transit Police).

Lived there for 12 years (the pub mentioned above is at Rice). And IIRC, the metro cops predate the the rail - they cruised 610 and issued tickets alongside the city cops.

But yeah, forgot about them. And, as wjllope mentioned, the HISD police and various university campus police. Add the police from the Houston Interburbs that go out of their way to ticket/arrest people passing through. I forget, does Texas have a park police force as well, or do they use state troopers for that?

/rarely had trouble with the Rice cops
//though there was this one officer who wasn't popular on campus...
 
2006-03-22 10:28:00 AM
Robobagpiper:

I forget, does Texas have a park police force as well, or do they use state troopers for that?

texas has parks?
 
2006-03-22 10:31:02 AM
Sarcasm Incarnate
They probably charged him under the felony murder rule {if you're committing rape, burglary, arson, or any other number of enumerated felonies, and the felon(s) is(are) the proximate cause of someone's death while the crime is being committed, the felon can be charged w/1st degree murder}, and this includes accomplices; if you and your friend are robbing a liquor store, and your friend kills the clerk, you can both be charged w/the clerk's murder, even if you had no idea your friend was packing.

Now, I had a discussion about a scenario similar to the you mentioned w/my former CrimLaw professor. I argued that it doesn't fit the felony murder rule, since one of the criminals was killed, and not by his accomplice. If a criminal is killed during the commission of a crime by a police officer or the assailee, it's collateral damage, and if you're strictly applying the felony murder rule, it's tantamount to suicide; he was the proximate cause of his own death during the commission of a dangerous felony.
Anyways, I'm no longer in law school (failed out).
The prof agreed w/me though; said he'd never thought of it that way. He's probably writing a paper on it. Lesson: never, ever go to law school. EVAR.

If the judge & the guy's lawyer have half a brain between them, the charge'll get thrown out. But I wouldn't bet on that.
 
2006-03-22 10:32:30 AM
I don't drink.
 
2006-03-22 10:36:13 AM
the USA is toast. Someone took the Bill of Rights and used it for toilet paper. I think the Russians were more free under Stalin than we are now. When does the revolution start? Sign me up now.
 
2006-03-22 10:38:14 AM
"Going to a bar is not an opportunity to go get drunk," TABC Capt. David Alexander said.

Just like going to a buffet is not an opportunity to get stuffed.

Logic asplodes.
 
2006-03-22 10:39:36 AM
drunk in public
 
2006-03-22 10:40:59 AM
nerfball: texas has parks?

many beautiful ones. of course they're hard to appreciate from the vantage point of your parent's basement.
 
2006-03-22 10:42:31 AM
RickTheVote: Dude, you need to get out more, and possbily read more as well.

is that a macro you have programmed on your keyboard? because it seems to be your standard response to everyone.

and seeing as how YOU are one of the ones primarily responsible for the idiocy going on in this country, I now understand.

Sorry that your Texan (as in the state, not you personally) attitudes have caused this country to veer wildly towards totalitarianism, but it is what it is.
 
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