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2006-03-05 05:09:04 PM
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2006-03-05 05:09:22 PM
Nice headline.

The 'next president' part was especially chuckle worthy.
 
2006-03-05 05:16:49 PM
Am beginning to rethink who was the real brains of this couple. With a marriage like their's, who needs divorce?!
 
2006-03-05 05:17:49 PM
meh...I wouldn't vote for, but I'd take her over the current nincompoop any day.
 
2006-03-05 05:19:30 PM
I'm going to make it my life's work to get Hillary Clinton elected in 2008.
 
2006-03-05 05:20:58 PM
Bahamut: I'm going to make it my life's work to get Hillary Clinton elected in 2008.

You're only going to live for two more years ? I'm so sorry.
 
2006-03-05 05:22:02 PM
I bet she doesn't even run.
 
2006-03-05 05:23:44 PM
FarkinNortherner: You're only going to live for two more years ? I'm so sorry.

Well, I'm sure getting Hillary elected will be the pinnacle. It'll all be downhill from there.
 
2006-03-05 05:29:13 PM
I'm going to make it my life's work to get Hillary Clinton elected in 2008.

Fine, I'll make it my two year's work to keep Hilary Clinton from getting elected in 2008. Because trust me, she's pretty much the embodiment of everything each party hates about the other, with none of the good parts. If you're electing her for Bill, ask yourself just how influential Laura Bush is now. That's about how influential Bill will be as First Husband, give or take.
 
2006-03-05 05:32:28 PM
Bahamut: I'm going to make it my life's work to get Hillary Clinton elected in 2008.

You know, if Rumsfeld were farking Hillary, the world suddenly makes soooo much more sense.
 
2006-03-05 05:33:29 PM
Gosling: That's about how influential entertaining Bill will be as First Husband, give or take.

I'm in for 4, maybe 8 years.
 
2006-03-05 05:34:08 PM
What Gosling said.

Nominating Hillary would be a disasterous mistake.

Oh, and BTW, she sucks as much or more than all of the other slimy politicians currently in the Senate.
 
2006-03-05 05:34:30 PM
Feingold > Hillary.
 
2006-03-05 05:36:24 PM
I still think Dean would be a great President. If only he'd been a bit more ready for Primetime in 04 and the media hadn't totally murdered his campaign...

/former Vermonter, lived under Gov Dean for nearly his entire tenure
 
2006-03-05 05:37:00 PM
Gosling: she's pretty much the embodiment of everything each party hates about the other

Exactly.

I'm not sure that Hillary Clinton and I agree on a single issue (I'm assuming we agree on some things). I just think having Hillary in the oval office would be hilarious. I'd be doing it for the pure comedic value.
 
2006-03-05 05:39:42 PM
Bahamut: I'm not sure that Hillary Clinton and I agree on a single issue (I'm assuming we agree on some things). I just think having Hillary in the oval office would be hilarious. I'd be doing it for the pure comedic value.


I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newletter ...
 
2006-03-05 05:40:54 PM
I guess I wouldn't be doing it purely for the comedic value. While the idea of President Hillary is hilarious, I think having Hillary, the polar opposite of W, in the oval office would be good for the country and for third-party candidates. Her presidency will be a disaster of such monumental proportions that the people will have to look somewhere else. My hope is they look to a third party.
 
2006-03-05 05:46:07 PM
My eyes are already on a third party. I voted for Gore and Kerry like a giant whore, but I thought it was just too vital to do everything possible to realistically possibly keep Bush from winning. Now...it's hard to imagine anyone WORSE being in the White House, so I'll probably be voting third party this year. Especially if Hillary is the Dem nom.

/still cockpunching former roommate who voted for Nader in Florida in 2000
 
2006-03-05 05:47:02 PM
I hate Hilary's personality, but her politics are a lot more mainstream than Bush's, too bad we don't vote on policies but rather on personality and as a result of media attacks back and forth.

From the point of view of watching every asshat Republican's head asplode if she won, though, it would be pure comedy gold. The president that divided the country and managed to lead it out of economic debt at the same time. While receiving no credit for it whatsoever, being embroiled in personal scandals mostly trumped up by the other side, and invigorating the other side to victory nearly everywhere but the oval office.

It'd be a rerun of 92 all over again, with local D's having to distance themselves, but national R's having a field day, and Fox ratings off the chart because all those tired gasbag commentators they have would suddenly have something to talk about again.

So if the vast right wing conspiracy actually benefits from a bogeyman to hate, who could be better for their causes and immoral purposes but to have a Clinton back in the white house?

If a Perot figure suddenly emerges to split the right vote, know the fix is in....
 
2006-03-05 05:54:08 PM
I hate Hillary... but...

Damn - Bill as First Husband??

Crap... I may be in. That's be a riot.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2006-03-05 06:00:29 PM
ask yourself just how influential Laura Bush is

She had a major impact on Michael Douglas' life. Well, the last minutes of it, anyways.
 
2006-03-05 06:52:35 PM
It's not really fair to compare Bill Clinton to Laura Bush. First of all, Bill is the exact opposite of Laura. Well, maybe Woody Allen is the exact opposite of Laura Bush, but Bill Clinton is up there. Secondly, there's never been a First Gentleman before, so we have no idea how influential one will be any way. Third, Clinton has held government leadership positions before, including governor and president. I think his input would be valued a lot higher than Laura Bush's.
 
2006-03-05 07:17:31 PM
I just think having Hillary in the oval office would be hilarious. I'd be doing it for the pure comedic value.

Better a leader be a wise bore than an interesting fool.
 
2006-03-05 07:38:52 PM
This looks like another case of Hillary trying to be Republican lite. She and the rest of the Democrats better figure out that the republicans didn't get all 3 branches of government by being Democrat lite. They relentlessly attacked the party in charge and offered their own vision to voters and after many years in the wilderness they have it all now.

Just as aside, has anybody noticed that of all politicians, Hillary Clinton is so publicly identified in the media by her first name alone. No one in the media refers to any of the past presidents as simply George or Bill and so on. And she arouses great passion in people, be it for her or against her. It's like she is the Madona of politics.
 
2006-03-05 09:08:54 PM
I am so going to be applying for an intership at the White House if she becomes president.
 
2006-03-05 09:09:39 PM
I didn't think that Condi Rice was married....
 
2006-03-05 09:25:10 PM
Tabatha Static: I didn't think that Condi Rice was married....

Oh, I get it...Condi Rice is "the next president..."

If the religious right actually nominates an unmarried, black female to run for President, I will consider the seventh seal opened.

Then I will denounce my life of agnosticism and pray to be raptured.
 
2006-03-05 09:45:11 PM
Democrats: I've said it before, I will say it again. Two words:
Mark Warner
 
2006-03-05 11:33:52 PM
I still can't decide if she would actually be a worse choice than Feingold. Living in Wisconsin, I can tell you that man is an asshat.
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2006-03-05 11:41:25 PM
I think not.
 
2006-03-05 11:47:40 PM
Living in Wisconsin, I can tell you that man is an asshat.

Also living in Wisconsin, I can tell you that I could care less how he acts, as long as he has good policy. So, him, Bayh or third party in '08. Bayh is my first choice, but if Feingold needs my vote more when the Wisconsin primary comes along, I'll go with him. I'm happy with either.
 
2006-03-06 12:56:08 AM
Pig just flew by my window!
 
2006-03-06 12:58:08 AM
Bahamut: Polar opposite? I don't know, she was a young republican in college, and tends to go off in tangets about moral issues like violent video games. I really think shes just faking the whole Democrat thing, first because she was married to a very successful Democrat, and second because its brought her success. Once shes President she could do a 180 and become a very scary thing indeed. Or she may be a uniter.. as in both parties uniting to get rid of her.
 
2006-03-06 01:45:39 AM
MindStalker: Bahamut: Polar opposite? I don't know, she was a young republican in college, and tends to go off in tangets about moral issues like violent video games. I really think shes just faking the whole Democrat thing, first because she was married to a very successful Democrat, and second because its brought her success. Once shes President she could do a 180 and become a very scary thing indeed. Or she may be a uniter.. as in both parties uniting to get rid of her.

LBJ did that a while ago, but he did a descent job if we forget about that silly Vietnam thingy.
 
2006-03-06 01:47:04 AM
"I'm going to make it my life's work to get Hillary Clinton elected in 2008"

That is SO precious! Thank you. I am going to put this quote on the wall in my office and laugh aloud when reading it everyday! This kind of stuff makes life worthwhile. I OWE you.
 
2006-03-06 01:54:21 AM
Generation_D
There is nothing mainstream about Hillary Clinton. If you look at her voting records, she votes along party lines more often than Ted Kennedy. Her publicists make a point of getting her to look mainstream for two reasons: When she runs for presidency in 2008, looking mainstream offers her a much better chance at winning (both primaries and the national election). Also, she can compare herself to the current DNC Howard Dean, and look even more mainstream.
Unfortunately for her, if she runs, the republicans will most likely nominate Condi Rice. Condi beats hillary on all the issues that Hillary is supposedly staunch on. Take education for example. What experience does hillary have in education that would give her any kind of expertise on the matter? Close to none. Condi on the other hand became a professor at Stanford in an extremely short period of time, and eventually Provost of Stanford.
Hillary supposedly represents the democratic party as a strong politician on terrorism, yet condi's experience as Secretary of State and National Security Advisor surely beats her in that field too.
Furthermore, one of the most divisive issues that generally is the deciding factor of whether or not someone votes for the democratic or republican candidate is abortion (given they haven't already identified with a party). Since Condi is pro-choice, that eliminates a huge voting block for Hillary (it also makes it much harder for condi to win the primary). Condi being black will also remove the democrats african american base of voters. While I understand the common response to that theory is that many blacks see her as an "uncle tom", but the truth is that most people ignorant enough to think like that don't take the time to vote.
I honestly hope Hillary runs in 2008. Electing a legitimate female candidate for presidency will almost force the Republicans to do the same.
Think of how great it would be for the USA to elect a female as president- especially a black woman. Not only would it be a huge step forward towards eliminating racism, but we would totally be sticking it to all the middle eastern countries who view women as lesser people.
 
2006-03-06 02:30:43 AM
Marmilman: Think of how great it would be for the USA to elect a female as president- especially a black woman. Not only would it be a huge step forward towards eliminating racism, but we would totally be sticking it to all the middle eastern countries who view women as lesser people.

amen. condi would make me care about what happens in politics again, at least for the duration of the campaign... she appears to have the stones (heh heh) to handle the presidency, as well.
 
2006-03-06 02:43:21 AM
Giggles at submitter.

/She'll win the democratic nomination but is unelectable in the national.
//p.s. I hate Bush, etc. Just a realist.
 
2006-03-06 03:39:18 AM
dball2: That is SO precious! Thank you. I am going to put this quote on the wall in my office and laugh aloud when reading it everyday! This kind of stuff makes life worthwhile. I OWE you.

Did you read any more of my posts, or is fifteen words your limit?
 
2006-03-06 03:45:28 AM
Marmilman: the republicans will most likely nominate Condi Rice

The Republicans would never nominate Condi, regardless of who the Democrats put up. Like it was said, she's an unmarried black female. Never gonna fly.

I think a female will one day be president but it won't be Hillary or Condi. For a woman to get the presidency, she'll have to be:
1. A Republican from the south.
2. White
3. Married with children
4. A breast cancer survivor
That's the list I've come up with, anyway.
 
2006-03-06 04:05:22 AM
2006-03-06 03:45:28 AM Bahamut [TotalFark]

Marmilman: the republicans will most likely nominate Condi Rice
-.-.-.-.--.-
The Republicans would never nominate Condi, regardless of who the Democrats put up. Like it was said, she's an unmarried black female. Never gonna fly.

I think a female will one day be president but it won't be Hillary or Condi. For a woman to get the presidency, she'll have to be:

1. A Republican from the south.
2. White
3. Married with children
4. A breast cancer survivor

That's the list I've come up with, anyway.


You forgot:
5. Openly Christian
6. Good looking for her age
7. Under the age of 60
 
2006-03-06 04:40:51 AM
Yeah, those are good additions. I think even being married to some sort of minister would be a big help, too.
 
2006-03-06 05:10:58 AM
Bahmut
Single women are the biggest group of people who don't vote. Since Condi is single, it will give that group someone to identify with, and draw more of that group into the voting booth. Also since she is black, she will undoubtedly draw a large portion of the democratic base to vote for her.

Being a single, black female would help her in the polls and the republican party in the long run. It would bring more African Americans to their party, as well as single women. To have an advantage like that is huge. The repubs know this. Condi's biggest hurdle is (like you said) getting nominated. But quite frankly, that really is not much of a stretch.
 
2006-03-06 06:39:48 AM
I still contend that there are more good ol' boys in the South who won't vote for a black woman than there are single women who will. Condoleeza Rice will never be president.
 
2006-03-06 07:16:36 AM
Hillary won't win. If she waited to 2012 or 2016 she -might- have a shot. But in 2008 she won't win
 
2006-03-06 09:20:44 AM
karasoth: f she waited to 2012 or 2016


Too old and too ugly(er) by then.
 
2006-03-06 10:12:41 AM
While I'm sure Hillary's Dubai screamfest is mostly political, it's silly to expect a husband and wife to have the same political views all the time.

Mary Matalin and James Carville.
George W. Bush and Laura Bush.
Dick Cheney and Lynne.
 
2006-03-06 10:15:21 AM
if that woman becomes president, i'm leaving.
 
2006-03-06 10:17:05 AM
Dancin_In_Anson: Too old and too ugly(er) by then.

2012: She'll be 65.
1988: Bush was 64 and ugly.
1980: Reagan was 69.
 
2006-03-06 10:17:40 AM
deadspace: if that woman becomes president, i'm leaving.

Just like all the liberals who went to Canada in late 2004?
 
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