Caffiend2003 : Chappelle :: Bevets : Jesus

Caffiend2003.they'd like to get a little return for their investment.

More like they would like to get their claws more deeply into this artist, so they can manipulate his art until he stops offending their advertising dollars away.

wow, thats pretty retarded. Since Chappelle wouldn't back down from the offensive stuff before bailing according to your slobbringly fanboyish opinion then how is airing the stuff he recorded going to stop offending?

both can't be true.

Are you admitting that he pussed out and was playing the humble boy or admiting your theory was BS in the first place?

either way you need to take Chapelles cock out of your mouth.

Bring back my show then

I'm confused. Did he take the $50 million yet or was that still pending?

Final word on this:

Chapelle was in the drivers seat at contract time.

I don't give a fark what slobbering fanboys like Caffiend say about the producers and executives and advertisers tried to pressure him into about how to run the show. That's immaterial

When he signed the contract to do the third season he could've demanded total creative control and Comedy Central would've likely said yes, and if they hadn't he could've walked out then. He failed to do so and entered a legal agreement to do the show under the conditions as they were. He then bailed on them cause he didn't like the game anymore even after he got approval on every rule of the game before it started.

Puss move all the way.

a little late in the thread but meh,

1) Wasn't about the money
2) Wasn't the show was getting to big
3) Creative differences. CC was trying to steer the show in a direction he didn't like
4) Said he wouldn't come back if they didn't show the new footage submitter.

"So your telling me there's a chance."

/obscure?
//RTFA next time

Caffeind2003

"I never blamed CC. I said it was more about the atmosphere of Hollywood. Read my posts before making an ass of yourself."

Caffeind2003
"they were trying to jam his work into a neat little box with all their other "products"

Caffeind2003
"More like they would like to get their claws more deeply into this artist, so they can manipulate his art until he stops offending their advertising dollars away."

Caffeind2003
"It's not about CC. It's not about censorship.
It's about the growing, twisted sickness that is corporate big Hollywood and the way it destroys people's lives."

Haha, ok buddy. He said himself the reason he left was because of the people in his inner circle that suddenly changed when he got rich and famous, not because of Comedy Central and not because of "Big Hollywood".

Oh yea and this gem you posted:

Caffeind2003
"yah, you're right. He was just an average nobody until Comedy Central called him up and said "Hey, random stranger, want to come do 2 seasons of a sketch comedy show? That's it. That's how it went down. Not like he did anything before that."

You do realize that Half-Baked had such a cult following in large part due to Comedy Central playing it repeatedly for a year straight right?

Flamewar rule #1: Don't get into a flamewar on a subject that you know nothing about becuase it will soon become apparent.

Flamewar rule #2: Know when to admit defeat and save a little face by at least being humble about it instead of riding your sinking ship to the bottom when it's clear that, not only are you wrong, but everyone knows you're wrong.

Thanks for playing, come back again later.

dc-kid
4) Said he wouldn't come back if they didn't show the new footage submitter.

Hm? He said that he won't come back if they do show the new footage. And CC has already been advertising that they will start showing it this year. Of course, he's really given no indication that he intends to go back anyway. CC needs to get on with their business, even if he doesn't intend to fulfill his end.

My advice to Chappelle would be to stop sulking and go back and work with them to fix the show before they air it, rather than whining about how unfair it all is. Dave is the biggest star CC has ever had, and at this point they're dying to get the show out the door. I'm sure he could make some very fair compromises, if not get everything he demands. If he were anyone else, he would have been fired by now.

"So your telling me there's a chance."
(Dumb and Dumber)

I'm almost certain that Half Baked enjoyed a cult following long before Comedy Central started airing it. I'm thinking it probably started getting cult appeal right around the time that it was about weed and didn't absolutely suck.

I haven't read any posts here, or the article. Here's what I think:

If I were making a TV show or movie, I'd make it because I had something to tell the world. That message could be motivational, could be important, or it could be just to make people laugh. I'd be making the TV show/movie for a reason, not for money.

However, if I make a TV show or movie that I don't feel very strongly about, then I'd be doing it for the money.

Example: Let's say I put together a mediocre sketch comedy show, that I'm not really too fond of, but I'll make it anyway, since I signed a contract to do so. I'm throwing together the show with a bunch of silly skits that I don't find too impressive or funny, but America loves it! They want more of it!

So I continue to throw together a second season of my show, with the same disposable jokes about pop culture that I'm not too proud of, and America wants even more! They can't get enough of my sketch comedy, which is sketch comedy I don't even like, but I'm making it anyway because people like it and it's an easy job.

So the network offers me a third season. I don't really like this show that I've been making for the past two seasons, but so many people are watching it. The network is making a ton of money off of me. I don't really want to work on the show anymore with the same amount of money they gave me last season. The show's only gotten more popular, so the network's making more money now.

What am I to do?

Raise my price. I don't like the show, but everyone else does, which means more money for the network, which means I should be getting more money as well.

/end example

I don't know if that's what Dave Chappelle is thinking, but if I were in his shoes, I can see where he's coming from.

Hey Chapelle: you made me laugh so hard with the Charlie Murphy True Hollywood Stories and the Wayne Brady skit. And for those two gifts you gave to me I give to you this gift in return:

Do. Whatever. You. Want.

50 mil? Blah. Who cares, they're all rich regardless.

Cleveland-Steamer: Well if Mencia's been stealing jokes, he's been stealing the wrong ones because that guy is not funny, ever.

My experience is that most people who hate Carlos Mencia either (a) Expect him to be Dave Chappelle, and get pissed of when he's not or (b) Have never been to the west coast and don't get most of the jokes.

/And you're (b), Cleveland-Steamer
//Even if you think you get the jokes

I was an Audience of One on Night After Night with Allan Havey.


That's awesome.

That's the first show I ever watched regularly on Comedy Central.. that, and Short Attention Span Theatre, hosted by some unknown comic named Jon Stewart.

I wouldn't put up with too much B.S. at work for $50 million, even more.

He went to South Africa to chill after his job got farked up. I've been in the same situation, really, obviously except not so much money and fame was involved.

Dave Chapelle will be back. He left Comedy Central so he could be back.

Comedy Central challenged Chapelle $50 million if he could go one night without telling a crackhead joke. Apparently he lost.

vacaboi

My experience is that most people who hate Carlos Mencia either (a) Expect him to be Dave Chappelle, and get pissed of when he's not or (b) Have never been to the west coast and don't get most of the jokes. And you're (b), Cleveland-Steamer

Right. I've lived in California now for 11 years and was born here. My experience is that you're an idiot.

Cleveland-Steamer: Right. I've lived in California now for 11 years and was born here. My experience is that you're an idiot.


So, your eleven?

After hearing Dave on the Oprah show (didn't watch it, listened to clips on Stern), I have to say the guy's nuts. He's become paranoid. Things were so bad he had to leave the country and disappear without telling his wife and kid? What, Dave, are they part of the group that's out to get you also?

Yossarian22 Uhm, you don't read music reviews much do you? Unless of course you mean, profitable. Critically successful? Have you ever even read this? (pops) A 97/100 on Metacritic means that SMiLE wasn't critically successful...?

He's an overrated asshole. fark him.

Comedy Central paid for those episodes. They have a right to air them.

jonnyeh

So, your eleven?

No it's not my eleven. I don't have any eleven. It's probably someone elses.

Chappelle ought to get a show on HBO or something. Maher got much more creative freedom and a censorship-free deal with HBO and it's much funnier than Politically Incorrect.

Comedy Central sucks ballz--the whole reason he left was because they wanted to control more of the show and ruin it.

This was explained by Charlie Murphy and a couple of other people during this whole lame debacle.

CC time and time again sinks their own success. See MST3K and the Man Show...the only one they refused to screw with is South Park because that saved them for tanking.

Showtime is the same company--he needs to go there or CC needs to back off.

Stick a wig on him and he's Whitney Houston.

Time for Charlie Murphy to take the spotlite.

I think Dave Chapelle's show was great and liked a lot of his stand-up bits, but he's quite insane.
Anyone who suddenly flies off to Africa without telling his wife and child has some serious mental issues to work out.
He didn't seem like a person in control of his mental facilities when he was on Oprah either.

If you're already very well off financially, then who cares? It's not like he's a homeless guy on the street. Go Dave. It sounds like he was working around a bunch of clueless morons.

Speaking as a non-American, Chappelle is about as funny as a baby with cancer.

Hey www.chapelletheory.com linkers:
You realize that was a hoax, right?

Follow the link to the disclaimer page.

Brasil: Speaking as a non-American, Chappelle is about as funny as a baby with cancer.

To be fair, in Brasil, babies with cancer are hilarious.

Go back to work, you farking attractive and successful African-American.

Seikima
oops. typo on my part.

Go ahead Dave, do whats right for you. The fans will always be there. The only bad blood your going to get from your fans is disappointment. We all wanted to see new shows, because we loved the material.

Do stand up, movies, heck, take your show to dive bars..we will still be there.


Just "Keeping it Real."