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(CNN)   Dave Chappelle vows never to return to Comedy Central, the station that agreed to pay him $50 million to make some TV shows. That'll teach em'   (cnn.com) divider line 283
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2006-03-02 03:56:36 PM

2006-03-02 03:23:50 PM Caffiend2003
Seriously, how you people type this stuff without punctuating it with suicide is beyond me.

2006-03-02 03:40:15 PM Caffiend2003
To be blunt, nobody gives a fark what you think about him.
If you weren't intent on spouting your blowhard "He's not even that funny," BS commentary, I'm sure you would be thinking the exactly the same thing. Just take a step back.
Thanks.

2006-03-02 03:36:43 PM Caffiend2003
Stop drumming up your own misinformed opinions and listen to what the guy is saying about his decisions. Then come back and maybe we can continue the conversation.



I hereby revoke my crybaby award status given to Dave Chappelle and award it to Caffiened2003
www.webdelsol.com

I predict future quotes from this great thinker to include
"Whaaaa.. people have different opinions than me on Fark"
"I wanna lick Chappell's Balls!"

Seriously, who the FARK do you think you are?
 
2006-03-02 03:57:34 PM
Dave, you are one hilarious n*gg...er... comedian.

But turning your back on 50 mil? Dave, I gotta say it: you're soft as shiat.
 
2006-03-02 03:59:18 PM
copperheadclgp
Dude, chill the fark out. At any point in my post, did I say that no one else should like him, and that my opinion was law? To the contrary I think that I made it very clear that it was my opinion. Nothing else.

And what the heck is fark, if not for opinion?


In the future, offer your opinions as opinion. This is not how you offer an opinion:
This is no great loss to comedy, friends.

The degree to which comedy, as a whole, suffers by losing Chapelle is an issue entirely seperate from your personal views on whether or not his material is humorous. Try to mix up your opinion with blanket, idiotic statements like this and people won't get so upset with you.
 
2006-03-02 03:59:27 PM
I miss Dave's comedy, but my respect for him outweighs his jokes. People are saying "boohoo" to Dave for whining about Comedy Central giving him 50 million for telling jokes. But isn't the whole point of turning down 50 million dollars is to NOT get the money?
 
2006-03-02 04:01:37 PM
JT_Dutch

... Yeah -- Dave doesn't care about the money; that's why HE SIGNED A 50 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT in the first place.

He doesn't care about the money, though. Sure.

Seems to me that he cares even less about commitments and obligations.

If you were offered a job that would earn your employer millions, would you accept $50,000? Hell no!

/Same goes for athletes. Nobody deserves $1,000,000 a year to kick a ball, but if the club is making millions why shouldn't you get your cut?
 
2006-03-02 04:01:41 PM
TheWolfdog

Just here to troll, or did you want to discuss something?
 
2006-03-02 04:01:59 PM
Inconceivable

Nice to know you hold unfunny potheads in such high respect. Maybe set your role models higher?
 
2006-03-02 04:02:20 PM
Go Dave - do your own thing man.

You all should watch him on the Actors Studio. He's just fine. He just hates Hollywood and the biz and took a time out.

Keep on truckin, bro!
 
2006-03-02 04:02:38 PM
2006-03-02 03:59:18 PM Caffiend2003


In the future, offer your opinions as opinion. This is not how you offer an opinion:

The degree to which comedy, as a whole, suffers by losing Chapelle is an issue entirely seperate from your personal views on whether or not his material is humorous. Try to mix up your opinion with blanket, idiotic statements like this and people won't get so upset with you.


My initial opinion was that you have a twig up your ass, but now I'm thinking log.
 
2006-03-02 04:04:33 PM
some_wild-eyed_8-foot_tall_maniac, if you're still here, i'd like to refer you to Raymong, HE understand what a contract is and what its intention is for.

Dude, when someone signs a contract they agree to perform the work they will get paid for. Like Raymong pointed out clearly, CC spent a lot on pre-production costs, Dave just smiled. And when Dave said, 'ehhh screw those white folks' (meant as a joke, since Dave IS a comedian, so please NOONE say any racist comments).

Simply put, if CC does nothing, they will be butt of jokes and open doors for others.

some_wild-eyed_8-foot_tall_maniac do a google search on contract laws if you think im full of shiat.
 
2006-03-02 04:06:34 PM
caffiend2003

"fark you, fark you, fark you, grenplastick you're cool, and caffiend2003fark you, I'm out!"
 
2006-03-02 04:08:32 PM
TheWolfdog
Nice to know you hold unfunny potheads in such high respect. Maybe set your role models higher?

Nice to know you're such an egocentric twat you think someone who has made a life (and living) of comedy since the age of 14 is "unfunny" simply because his comedy doesn't appeal to you.

Lets me know who I'm dealing with.
 
2006-03-02 04:08:46 PM
2006-03-02 03:43:04 PM Caffiend2003


Stop drumming up your own misinformed opinions and listen to what the guy is saying about his decisions. Then come back and maybe we can continue the conversation.


I'm not a "Chappelle scholar" like you, but what I remember him saying goes like this: "I had a bunch of people in my group of friends influencing my judgments about what is creative and what is funny, and what is or isn't racist. I wasn't happy about what I was doing and the direction of the show."

Nowhere did he say that Comedy central had wronged him or violated his contract or forced him to do something he didn't want to do. Not that I care or anything.
 
2006-03-02 04:08:56 PM
The First

Dude, when someone signs a contract they agree to perform the work they will get paid for.

do a google search on contract laws if you think im full of shiat.


Dude, seriously. STFU.

Do a google search on contract laws?

Unless you know what the specific terms with respect to DC's obligations were, and unless you know what the contract specified as events of default, and unless you know what the remedies for breach are, then all you know is what you learned on google about "contracts."

Did it ever occur to you that there is a reason why people make a lot of money to practice transactional and entertainment law? They didn't get there by seaching google.
 
2006-03-02 04:14:16 PM
i work for a lawyer who specializes in contract law
and i am getting a kick... blah blah blah ....

/oh shiat can't do that, because at least 2 of the people posting here actually ARE lawyers, and pretty soon they'll start going at it with each other, because there's nothing lawyers like to do more than argue the fine points of the law...
 
2006-03-02 04:17:05 PM
bulldg4life [TotalFark]


And, far be it from someone to actually stand up for something they felt was wrong and didn't want to deal with. Oh no, submitter, money is definitely most important.

They paid him $50 million for the product, he left it partially finished and they'd like to get a little return for their investment.

What farking assholes they are huh?

Chappelle is a douche.
 
2006-03-02 04:18:52 PM
Digitalstrange
They paid him $50 million for the product, he left it partially finished and they'd like to get a little return for their investment.

What farking assholes they are huh?

Chappelle is a douche.


They agreed to pay him $50 million. They didn't actually do it.
 
2006-03-02 04:21:33 PM
OK agreed to pay actually but they were putting up lots of production costs, etc,etc. Chappelle is still a douche. Comedy Central has been pretty understanding I'd say to a guy who farked them out of the biggest hit they've ever had right out of the blue.
 
2006-03-02 04:21:38 PM
For what it's worth, I'm sure it wasn't $50mil in advance.

This is Comedy Central.

(I worked for Comedy Central.)
 
2006-03-02 04:22:22 PM
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2006-03-02 04:22:29 PM
they'd like to get a little return for their investment.

More like they would like to get their claws more deeply into this artist, so they can manipulate his art until he stops offending their advertising dollars away.
 
2006-03-02 04:22:34 PM
So, no actual quotes from Chapelle, no one who's read the contract, and a whole room full of people claiming they know Chapelle's reasoning and his status in terms of his contract. Yup. Chapelle's the real dumbass here.
 
2006-03-02 04:23:00 PM
Caffiend2003

As Chappelle's publicist you should be devoting your time defending that AWFUL POS "Block Party" which was just released. I pity anyone who has to sit through that and not get paid for it. Seriously, worst. movie. evar
 
2006-03-02 04:25:05 PM
The First: do a google search on contract laws if you think im full of shiat.

It doesn't seem necessary, as you've already made it clear to everyone that you are. trueaustinite and I don't tend to agree on much, but I believe he has a law degree, or at least a background in law and he's saying pretty much what I've been saying all day. So even if you don't believe me, believe trueaustinite. He knows what he's talking about here.

You're wrong. End of argument. Shut up.
 
2006-03-02 04:26:19 PM
2006-03-02 04:18:52 PM Caffiend2003


They agreed to pay him $50 million. They didn't actually do it.


Right. It goes like this:

1.) Comedy Central could probably sue Chappelle and win. But they won't, because they want him to come back, and they will offend their viewers by going against him. Whether Chappelle knows this or not, it doesn't make him a jerk for not honoring the contract. He has a reason for not honoring it, he's not just trying to rip them off.

2.) CBS radio is suing Howard Stern and may well lose, because Stern made a lot of money for them by honoring his contract (at least superficially). But Moonves doesn't care, because CBS radio is losing all kinds of money, he hates Stern, and he has nothing to lose by suing Howard. Moonves is going to get canned anyway, probably.

Contracts are only one aspect of a commercial relationship.
 
2006-03-02 04:26:40 PM
More like they would like to get their claws more deeply into this artist, so they can manipulate his art until he stops offending their advertising dollars away.

That may be well true. But, to be fair, CC owns the medium on which the show is broadcast. There is nothing inherently evil about wanting some creative control over a show you have (potentially) more than $50 million invested in.

This is just business. It's all just business.
 
2006-03-02 04:37:50 PM
trueaustinite
This is just business. It's all just business.

Bingo!

That's precisely why Dave's farking done with it.
 
2006-03-02 04:42:53 PM
The dumbass tag appears to describe the submitter
 
2006-03-02 04:43:34 PM
Digitalstrange
OK agreed to pay actually but they were putting up lots of production costs, etc,etc. Chappelle is still a douche. Comedy Central has been pretty understanding I'd say to a guy who farked them out of the biggest hit they've ever had right out of the blue.

How do you know it was right out of the blue? You don't think there's a chance he expressed any kind of dissatisfaction with the way they were trying to jam his work into a neat little box with all their other "products"?
 
2006-03-02 04:55:40 PM
submitter

upload.wikimedia.org

"Every time I see a black man with more money than me...well...I just want to puke my guts out."
 
2006-03-02 04:59:01 PM
yeah...and TheWolfdog too for sure.
 
2006-03-02 05:03:26 PM
Kind of funny that Dave probably wouldn't be nearly as famous as he is now if Comedy Central hadn't shown Half Baked every other day for, like, two years.
 
2006-03-02 05:04:53 PM
He's let down all of his fans, the poeple that bought the first two seasons of the show. He's not honoring his end of the deal.

"He's rich biatch", and he doesn't care.
 
2006-03-02 05:08:05 PM
Caffiend2003

You need to shut up, seriously. This is from a Time Magazine interview with Chappelle about why he left Comedy Central:

"The problems, he says, started with his inner circle."If you don't have the right people around you and you're moving at a million miles an hour you can lose yourself," he says. "Everyone around me says, 'You're a genius!'; 'You're great!'; 'That's your voice!' But I'm not sure that they're right." And he stresses that Comedy Central was not part of the problem and put no more than normal television restrictions on what he could do."

Ok so that's straight from Dave himself that Comedy Central was not the reason he left. The article is right here if you want to read it: http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1061415,00.html So you can quit blaming them and painting them as some sort of evil corporation, ok, thanks, goodbye.
 
2006-03-02 05:09:51 PM
LegacyDL
So who here would actually sell their creative soul for $50 million?


If I had an offer for $100 for mine I'd sell it. For $50 million you can have anything you want from me. Including organs.
 
2006-03-02 05:14:12 PM
Just read the Time article ElBarto79 linked to. Seems like a pretty honest decision to me. He doesn't want his work to be watered down by meeting the weekly deadline. I got kind of tired with his stuff after every other person I saw during the day would pretend to be Rick James, but I have to respect him for his reasoning.
 
2006-03-02 05:19:30 PM
What the hell 'principles' are you guys talking about? Tell me specifically...

How many episodes in Season 1 and 2 was Chappelle lambasting Comedy Central, telling them to give him more money? He said it in almost every show... Well they did their part, and he flaked out.

The fool plain went crazy. Chappelle is the joke. Its clear to anyone who saw the Oprah show that he cracked long ago.
 
2006-03-02 05:23:21 PM
T.rex: Its clear to anyone who saw the Oprah show

Anyone who starts a sentence with these words is an idiot, no matter what they're talking about.
 
2006-03-02 05:25:56 PM
Greedy SOB. Go away, Ugly. Step aside, and let the real (non-self-important) talent go to work.
 
2006-03-02 05:28:45 PM
I'm confused as to what I'm missing, among all these supporters. He signed a $50,000,000 contract with Comedy Central, then panics and skips out in the middle of shooting. He disappears and doesn't come back for over a year, and now they're trying to make do with the footage they have to air the show that he promised them.

Obviously many people think it's a good thing that he's "keeping it real", and normally I can get behind that as well. But in this case, I don't see how he's in the right at all. He promised something to Comedy Central and didn't deliver, and now he's pissed off that they're using what little he did give them? If he wants to improve the material or something before it airs, the least he could do is return to finish the season before he goes on hiatus.
 
2006-03-02 05:29:01 PM
06-03-02 05:19:30 PM T.rex

Yes, playing with the big boys is tough...they give you lots of money, and in return you have to deliver. You can say you don't like the deal, but not living up to it shows you lack maturity - not that you are a great 'artiste'.

Anybody can be a prima donna. It doesn't mean everybody should hate him for it, but you shouldn't respect him for it either.



What the hell 'principles' are you guys talking about? Tell me specifically...

How many episodes in Season 1 and 2 was Chappelle lambasting Comedy Central, telling them to give him more money? He said it in almost every show... Well they did their part, and he flaked out.

The fool plain went crazy. Chappelle is the joke. Its clear to anyone who saw the Oprah show that he cracked long ago.
 
LH
2006-03-02 05:30:23 PM
The bottom line is, right now CC is the one holding the cards. They could take Dave to the cleaners. They arent playing their hand yet in hopes he changes his mind and comes back. I predict by the end of the year Dave is slapped with breach of contract lawsuit. Eventually it will be settled out of court and Chappelle will film out the rest of his contract.
 
2006-03-02 05:31:56 PM
Anybody remember what happened to "Ren and Stimpy"?

The creator refused to meet the deadlines, because he felt it was compromising the art. They kept showing the same episodes over and over again. In retrospect, he was right - when Nick took over production and fired him, it wasn't quite as good. But it's the deal you make with the devil when you become famous.
 
2006-03-02 05:43:11 PM
ElBarto79

You need to shut up, seriously.

No thanks.


So you can quit blaming them and painting them as some sort of evil corporation, ok, thanks, goodbye.

I never blamed CC. I said it was more about the atmosphere of Hollywood. Read my posts before making an ass of yourself.

Or don't. I honestly don't care. You're probably an ass anyway.
 
2006-03-02 05:45:57 PM
LH
The bottom line is, right now CC is the one holding the cards. They could take Dave to the cleaners.

Umm, yah, no they can't. They're totally powerless. If they sued Dave the backlash would be worse than any damages they would ever recuperate from the lawsuit.

They know this. You should too. Dave clearly does.
 
2006-03-02 05:47:38 PM
Animatronik
Yes, playing with the big boys is tough...they give you lots of money, and in return you have to deliver. You can say you don't like the deal, but not living up to it shows you lack maturity - not that you are a great 'artiste'.

There are worse things a great artist could be than immature.

Anybody can be a prima donna. It doesn't mean everybody should hate him for it, but you shouldn't respect him for it either.

You don't understand what a prima donna is, do you?
 
2006-03-02 05:52:47 PM
2006-03-02 05:47:38 PM Caffiend2003



You don't understand what a prima donna is, do you?


Stop trying to be the bigger idiot.
 
2006-03-02 05:59:15 PM
No matter what lofty ideals you think Chappelle is adhering to,... guess what?... money is power.

you want to open a school for inner city children? well 50 mill can open 50 of them...

if you think he's simply 'keeping it real', you apparently haven't even seen his own sketch about 'keeping it real'.
 
2006-03-02 06:03:25 PM
All I can say is--hooray! Chappelle's Show sucked.
 
2006-03-02 06:08:42 PM
Caffiend2003

Are you really Dave Chappelle?
 
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