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2006-02-23 10:51:40 PM  
Wow. If I had two wives, then I might get laid 3 or 4 times a year!

/23 years in May
/Just kidding. This morning was great wink wink nudge nudge
 
2006-02-23 10:59:28 PM  
He mentioned the crisis of "spare males" in China. But it is worse than you think. 30 million men with no hope of a mate or employment are a natural disaster. The amount of destruction they can do is staggering.

Conversely, next door, India has a similar problem with excess males. This may end up, assuming nature doesn't correct the imbalance itself first, with the world's first purely "demographic war" between these two nations.

Get that: a war whose sole purpose is to kill off extra young men. World War I, but fifty times as deadly.

Most likely huge "pointed stick" armies sent to fight in desolate wasteland as high explosive shells, the most effective killer, rain down among them. Both nations' small professional armies remain in the rear, theoretically as a second eschelon, waiting for a "breakthrough" that never comes.

And they keep fighting until 50 million men lay dead, and more balanced demographics have been restored.

Though that number may be conservative. The truth is that as many as 500 million men and women may have to die in that region. But that is even beyond the scope of conventional war.

That would have to be the work of nature.
 
2006-02-23 11:06:49 PM  
i just want one girlfriend who wont cheat on me, she doesnt have to be gorgeous, she doesnt have to be super smart, she just has to be loving and truthful and above all, fair.


only in a perfect world i guess, everyone on this planet seems to be a slut. (men included)
 
2006-02-23 11:14:06 PM  
Why should any marriage have legal protection? Write up a contract and marry whomever you want, I say. Get the government out of it.
 
2006-02-23 11:17:42 PM  
Wraith,

Funny how hard something that should be so simple is so damn hard to find eh?

/fell in love with one that cheated
//fell in love with another that was married
 
2006-02-23 11:22:24 PM  
I find it funny that men are more or less designed to want a harem, while women want to latch on to one guy and have him exclusively. I know it isn't a hard and fast rule, but it's common enough.

Sure, a woman wants security and standing and all that, but when you're thinking about sex, women want harems more than men do. Harems are bad for most men, but great for most women, when it comes to sex.

You see, women all want to fark the same guy. Men all want to fark all the women.

With harems, women win, because they all get to screw the football captain or hockey captain or billionair or sultan or whatever, and the captains of teams and industry win, because they get lots of sex.

The losers in harem-based societies are desperate, unmarried or undermarried men. These desperate men then form posses and the real losers become whoever they happen to decided to murder or rape.

The main goal of enforcing monogamy on a society is to control potentially dangerous men and maintain the status quo. It really doesn't have all that much to do with women. When the U.S. government cracked down on the early Mormons living off in the desert for their polygamy, I don't think the rights of women were really on their mind -- I think having a whole lot of men living out in the desert governed by their own moral rules was the percieved threat.

And when the establishment cracks down on sexual deviance (and I would count anything outside of "wild oats sowing that leads to Christian marriage" as "sexual deviance" in the eyes of the establishment), who gets hit the hardest? Regular joes. Nobody's going to beat RuPaul to death, but Matthew Shephard is all of a sudden threat.

Because polygamy and mysegeny and homosexuality (or "sodomy," as it were) are all treated the same by the establishment -- they insult you, track you down, threaten you, mock you, marginalize you, and beat the crap out of you until you stop -- provided you are otherwise normal. If you are obvious not normal -- a loner, an obvious abberant -- and are not threatening to form some sort of posse, people might mess with you, but generally you're pretty safe.

And so the desire to prevent violence begets violence. All because we can't all be captain of the team at the same time.

These are the games us men play. The women have a whole other thing, and I hate to break it to all a'yall, but it doesn't have nearly as much invested in sexual fidelity as the men's game does.

-- the great thing about flamewars is that everybody's gotta type something really long and stupid for no reason once in a while.
 
2006-02-23 11:29:37 PM  
"Polygamy can be good for women" or, "How I rationalize the fact that I am a self-centered slut"
 
2006-02-23 11:30:13 PM  
maybe the right to polygamy is in our constitution. maybe the judiciary will figure it out in a few decades.
 
2006-02-23 11:36:18 PM  
Wraith: Hmm. I don't know. Fark probably isn't the best place to look, though (now I hear TFark, that's a different story).

Not that I don't sympathize. Haven't, to my knowledge, been cheated on. Been dumped my fair share, though.
 
2006-02-23 11:37:00 PM  
i'm a girl, and i highly recommend sticking to one girl. why? because one girl is enough of a problem. why complicate things? would u rather have one headache, or 2 or more headaches to deal with?
 
2006-02-23 11:42:41 PM  
Jingoro

RollingThunder
What else can you expect from a backwards group of upstart neobarbs like Grayson? ;)
/would move to Harrington Steadhold in a nanosecond

I wonder how many people got that? :p


Treecats? I want one.
 
2006-02-23 11:53:59 PM  
not_too_swift
+2, very good article
 
2006-02-23 11:54:45 PM  
msjulz: You're not my ex, are you?

One girl's only "enough of a problem" if she's a biatch.
 
2006-02-24 12:19:28 AM  
I don't understand why women want monogoamy anyway. This system was obviously designed by dudes so we can all get our own broad. biatches are under the impression that this is somehow resepectful of their rights and empowering. But in reality they'd be better off if they could monopolize the rich men in society. Now under current rules, some broad has to end up with joe double-wide (or cats). Oh well, works for us! Just don't let the chicks catch on.
 
2006-02-24 12:26:12 AM  
no, KrispyKringle, i'm not ur ex. i'm just saying that, because most girls i know are really clingy on their boyfriends. i hate it so i'm try not to be that way.
 
2006-02-24 12:30:19 AM  
msjulz: I know a lot of guys who are clingy, too. It's a myth that guys don't get emotionally attached. Quite a number do, and quite a number are clingy.

Just sayin'.
 
2006-02-24 01:27:33 AM  
Hmm, my best friend has a wife. Said wife is also my gf. I used to share a different woman with my best friend, but she and I are now on a break. I also have another gf outside of this group, and so does my friend.

It's not really polygamy though, since only the two of them are married, and it isn't legal anyway (lesbians). So far, there have been no purchases of firearms, damage to walls/doors, and/or popo calls.

A month and counting...

/polyamory: it's dangerous fun
 
2006-02-24 01:35:06 AM  
Wasn't this on Star Trek once?
 
2006-02-24 02:16:48 AM  
God bless strip clubs, rub & tugs, and brothels for fixing most of the issues caused by monogamy.
 
2006-02-24 02:55:46 AM  
Apparently women are too stupid to make decisions for themselves, as evidenced by the need for both prostitution and polygamy laws. Thank goodness the equal rights crowd is there to make sure that they are coerced into making the right decisions with their lives.

You know, because a woman should control her own body-- except when it doesn't fit with feminism.
 
2006-02-24 08:34:42 AM  
FarkmeBlind: /polyamory: it's dangerous fun

Bears repeating because it's the truth.

Play with fire and you will get burned.. just a matter of time.
 
2006-02-24 09:25:11 AM  
RollingThunder and Jingoro

I'll spring for the season tickets for the Treecat's games but you guys gotta bring some good Sphynxian beer.

/gotta love threadjacks that most people have no clue on the reference
 
2006-02-24 09:51:33 AM  
FarkinExBubblehead

I'll bring a truck of celery.
 
2006-02-24 10:26:06 AM  
KrispyKringle, you're absolutely right. I'll rephrase my statement: Having more than one girlfriend/boyfriend is a hassle in itself. People in general can be needy.

And having more than one partner would not be a problem if the two partners both know about it and are absolutely OK with it, without wanting any commitments.

That doesn't usually happen. There's almost always a partner who wants to keep the other one all to himself or herself.
 
2006-02-24 10:33:59 AM  
from Wikipedia: "Polyandry has occurred in Tibet, Zanskar, Nepal, India (Zanskar, Ladakh, Toda of South India, Nairs of Kerala, the Nymba and Pahari of North India), and Sri Lanka. It is also encountered in some regions of China (especially Yunnan- the Mosuo people), and in some Subsaharan African and American indigenous communities (notably the Surui of northwestern Brazil). In other societies, there are people who live in de facto polyandrous arrangements that are not recognized by the law."

Oh, I also forgot to add. Polygamy in any form today would be pretty dangerous with all the STD's abound. I guess if you don't mind the possibility of cancer or such...
 
2006-02-24 10:47:47 AM  
morganm -

I'd ask you to defend you statements, but I don't see trying to argue with a twit.
 
2006-02-24 10:56:29 AM  
I married multiple women; So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies.

Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.

But trust me.... You don't.

I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you don't know what you are talking about.

This is how bad info gets passed around.

If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do.

Cos some single Farkers believe anything they hear.

/clich'owned!
 
2006-02-24 11:31:26 AM  
If you look at the numbers it makes sense. It has always been the case and perception that more women are capable of being in a commited relationship than men.
Then you add in all the gay men and the ratio of worthy male partenrs to female partners is always less than even.

Women have three choices. Find a one of the few competent males (and fight off the other women who will try to take them), switch to the other team or settle for a jerk because all the "good ones" are taken.

What if society encouraged women to bond together and form wolf packs to find Mr. Right and rotate shifts. In that world Sex in the City would be about three women shoe shopping and taking turns with Mr. Big and listening vicareously to the escapades of one slut.

Equation for perfect society.

Allow polygamy and legalize prostituion for single people who know they don't want any part of breeding and family life. That way all the jerks can get there rocks off on the sluts and these two segments of society will shrink since they are less inclined to breed and multiply.
 
2006-02-24 03:59:27 PM  
jebivuk:Allow polygamy and legalize prostituion for single people who know they don't want any part of breeding and family life. That way all the jerks can get there rocks off on the sluts and these two segments of society will shrink since they are less inclined to breed and multiply cease to exist within 3 generations.

fixed that one for you.
 
2006-02-24 04:44:39 PM  

tricycleracer

-My god! How does he deal, poor bastard...

Those aren't women. Those are sluts.

When they don't have a brain, it's much easier to corral a half-dozen into bed.


BRING ON THE STUPID!
 
2006-02-24 07:15:01 PM  
Jingoro

RollingThunder

What else can you expect from a backwards group of upstart neobarbs like Grayson? ;)
/would move to Harrington Steadhold in a nanosecond

I wonder how many people got that? :p

*looks around, raises hand*
 
2006-02-24 07:34:50 PM  
msjulz: So true. I'm having this argument with my new lady friend--do I mind if she farks an old fark buddy from out of town while I'm away in a couple weeks? I said, yes.
 
2006-02-24 09:54:24 PM  
Polygamy is not really advantageous for a woman in marriage.

"Yikes, my man has all these children with all these other women?!?!"

Not much financial security there from her perspective as he has a whole lot of mouths to feed depending on said man's virlity. Where does each woman and her children sit priority-wise in the man's mind?

Just one particular aspect to think about.

However, if you have an odd number of wives, there is always one on the outside that will probably be the only one giving you shiat since the rest have already learned to get along and have singled her out for catty abuse. Prime numbers...............
 
2006-02-28 12:17:37 PM  
KrispyKringle, is that lady friend someone you are interested in? Are you exclusive or just dating? Some people don't stick with only one guy unless they are officially going out (and then others don't believe in that until they are married). According to her, she wouldn't be doing anything wrong if this is what she believed in.

I am old-fashioned. I don't date more than one person at a time. I wouldn't want anyone dating someone I was interested in, and I wouldn't want to date someone who was interested in someone else.

But everyone has different beliefs, so hey, if she wants to be like Pokemon and "catch them all," that's her perogative. Personally, I wouldn't want to date her. If a guy I'm interested in wants to date other women, I just let him go.
 
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