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2006-02-15 10:42:40 AM
It's not hard for me to believe that 0.005% of the world's population wants to blow up the United States.
 
2006-02-15 10:44:18 AM
In other words, if that percentage of people in the US wanted to blow up the country, it would be the population of a small Southern town (15000 people).
 
2006-02-15 10:50:41 AM
you mean it doesn't already?
 
2006-02-15 10:54:04 AM
Oh, sweet. We've got a list. Well that'll make things much easier.
 
2006-02-15 11:01:05 AM
Is Dick Cheney on said list?
 
2006-02-15 11:03:32 AM
The worst part is that the TSA people haven't figured out Ctrl-F yet, so they scan the list manually for each person.
 
2006-02-15 11:05:12 AM
They told me I was signing a petition to outlaw gun turrets on the Girl Scout headquarters building!

I'm sorry, I just don't think that 8 year old girls should be manning gun turrets unupervised. And now I'm apparently some kind of terrorist.

I mean, geez.
 
2006-02-15 11:16:21 AM
As more of them die, the Iraqi population becomes less of a threat.

And now, with our politicians taking up arms in this war on terror, Iran better watch out!
 
2006-02-15 11:42:08 AM
RandomExcess

Hilarious!
 
2006-02-15 11:53:42 AM
Don't forget the Iranians and Syrians
 
2006-02-15 11:55:23 AM
can you add Utah while you're at it?
 
2006-02-15 11:56:33 AM
the true number may be about 200,000 to account for the same person whose name is spelled differently

How many ways can you spell "Cat Stevens"?
 
2006-02-15 11:56:34 AM
I'm just racking my brains here trying to figure out why so many folks hate us.

Gee whiz, what could it be?

;)
 
2006-02-15 11:56:38 AM
-And all Democrats, don't forget them! They're all terrorists too! (according to Sean Hannity)
 
2006-02-15 11:56:44 AM
Good job guys. Invading Iraq used to have nothing to do with the War on Terra but thanks to all the terrorrists we've created by going in, now it sort of does. Mission Accomplished?
 
2006-02-15 11:58:08 AM
He's makin' a list,
He's checkin' it twice....

INGSOC is coming to town.
 
2006-02-15 11:58:15 AM
Things like this make it a lot of fun going to Target out in Dearborn.

/Michiganders will get that
 
2006-02-15 11:58:15 AM
Yeah, some TSA asshole put Ted Kennedy's name on the list - I bet whoever did that got a nice cushy appointment in the Bush Administration fighting science.
 
2006-02-15 11:58:21 AM
How many of the people on the list are "bin Laden's Number 2 man"?
 
2006-02-15 11:58:33 AM
I'm surprised they haven't just gone through the Democratic voter rolls and added everyone onto the list.

Civil libertarians say the size of the list indicates it might include names of innocent people. But a senior NCTC official told The Post the list complies with directives requiring data only of people known or appropriately suspected of being connected with terrorism.

"Mistakes? We do not understand this word, mistakes. We are perfect. Does not compute. Does not compute."
 
2006-02-15 11:58:43 AM
let's track them down and take care of buisness.
 
2006-02-15 12:01:18 PM
Didn't the terrorist organization know as 'us intelligence' say they would not put up the no-fly list,etc,on a website,,,just because it could be hackked and added too? the government website being hacked? happens more than you'd think..
 
2006-02-15 12:01:53 PM
Couple more entires for you:

Heezz Jus't Farhted
IBeen P'oopin
 
2006-02-15 12:01:59 PM
Names are not unique so while there may just be 325,000 "names" on the list there are millions of "people" on the list. Babies are appearing on the "no-fly" list, which is this same list.
 
2006-02-15 12:01:59 PM
How many are named Muh-- um... nevermind.
 
2006-02-15 12:03:05 PM
Marcus Aurelius
the true number may be about 200,000 to account for the same person whose name is spelled differently

Kadafi
Quadafi
Quadaphi
kedafi
etc..

/I know, we no longer consider him a terrorist (wink wink)
 
2006-02-15 12:06:56 PM
Marcus Aurelius: How many ways can you spell "Cat Stevens"?

well, you could spell it "yusuf islam" or even "stephen demetre georgiou"


/yusuf islam? his name has 'islam' in it! quick, put him on the terror list!
//oh peace train take this country, come take me home again
 
2006-02-15 12:07:46 PM
So, we're making a list and checking it twice,
we're going to find out who's naughty or nice?

This is a sound program that's been implemented before with much success and I approve of it as long as the sleep cycle monitoring isn't intrusive to non-terrorists.
 
2006-02-15 12:07:49 PM
And half of US citizens living in the Northeast and on the West Coast.
 
2006-02-15 12:08:32 PM
This message brought to you by brainless pathetic quasi-celebrity republican hacks.

i28.photobucket.com


/Sorry Drew..not
 
2006-02-15 12:08:43 PM
I blame Bush - really.

btw: Is everyone in Montana on the list?
 
2006-02-15 12:08:49 PM
I have no doubt that I'm on the list. I once shot off a bottle rocket.
 
2006-02-15 12:10:54 PM
And it keeps growing....
 
2006-02-15 12:10:55 PM
0.005%33% of the world's population
 
2006-02-15 12:12:08 PM
Hey, NSA! Don't forget:

Quaker peace activists

Any and all war protestors

Mormons

All registered Democrats

Gay married couples

Evolutionary Biologists

Amish

Anyone who looks at Internet Porn

Anyone who has every criticized Bush and Co.

Anyone with an IQ in the triple digits or who exhibits independent thought

Anyone who thinks Ann Coulter is a hate-spewing broomstick with a wig
 
2006-02-15 12:14:09 PM
And half of US citizens living in the Northeast and on the West Coast.

And a certain 78-year-old lawyer who can't take a joke.
 
2006-02-15 12:14:51 PM
Dhusk: Anyone with an IQ in the triple digits or who exhibits independent thought

i warned ya! didn't i warn ya?! that colored chalk was forged by lucifer himself!
 
2006-02-15 12:15:09 PM
"...a senior NCTC official told The Post the list complies with directives requiring data only of people known or appropriately suspected of being connected with terrorism..."

Any arrests? But if they're... But if these are... But if you know that... Well WTF?

If they've done something wrong, arrest them - otherwise, there's plenty of real crime in every "hood" in every major city in the U.S. that you could get busy on...
 
2006-02-15 12:16:19 PM
I think they forgot a few people in Iraq:

www.worldpublicopinion.org
I'm not saying these folks are all terrorists but they are part of the cheering section.

Link
 
2006-02-15 12:17:21 PM
That probably just represents everyone with a first name of "Mohammed".
 
2006-02-15 12:18:52 PM
When people argue that the current administration is only conducting illegal wiretaps on suspected terrorists, do they know how big this list is?

Oh, none of that matters though,, since we need to catch all of those freedom-hating terrorists.
 
2006-02-15 12:20:55 PM
Yup, and Bank's expect their tellers to know EVERY ONE of those names, so as not to set-up an account for 'terrist'.

Good plan folks, good plan...
 
2006-02-15 12:22:52 PM
Oh it seems so silly until you realize they have guns and they don't think they're kidding.
 
2006-02-15 12:23:28 PM
trippdogg: If they've done something wrong, arrest them

part of the problem is they get any loose 'evidence' they may have through illegal... i mean, extra-legal methods, so even if they had enough evidence to prosecute (which they don't anyway the vast majority of the time) they could never take what they have in front of a judge. luckily, they can detain people without charges indefinitely now, so, they got that goin' for them...
 
2006-02-15 12:24:21 PM
"But a senior NCTC official told The Post the list complies with directives requiring data only of people known or appropriately suspected of being connected with terrorism."

Like the 4 year old that they wouldn't let on a plane?
 
2006-02-15 12:25:50 PM
portland.indymedia.org
 
2006-02-15 12:26:11 PM
STAY THE COURSE!!!! EVEN THOUGH THE TERRORISTS HAVE GROWN FROM ~ 81,000 IN 2003 TO 325,000 NOW, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE ARE LOSING THE WAR ON TERROR! HAPPY WAR!!! HAPPY IRAQ!!! MORE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND DEAD SOLDIERS WILL ENSURE VICTORY AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!! TRUST US!!!!
 
2006-02-15 12:27:13 PM
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list--I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed--who never would be missed!
There's the pestilential nuisances who write for autographs--
All people who have flabby hands and irritating laughs--
All children who are up in dates, and floor you with 'em flat--
All persons who in shaking hands, shake hands with you like _that_--
And all third persons who on spoiling tete-a-tetes insist--
They'd none of 'em be missed--they'd none of 'em be missed!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2006-02-15 12:27:33 PM
Civil libertarians say the size of the list indicates it might include names of innocent people. But a senior NCTC official told The Post the list complies with directives requiring data only of people known or appropriately suspected of being connected with terrorism.

They are both right. The list includes names of suspects but some innocent people share a name with a suspect or have a similar name to one on the list.
 
2006-02-15 12:29:02 PM
'That baby's got a diaper! And it's LOADED!!!'
 
2006-02-15 12:29:33 PM
325,000 more reasons for your prez to continue his "war" on terrorism. Did anyone tell him how vietnam ended?
 
2006-02-15 12:32:29 PM
blackminded
"Things like this make it a lot of fun going to Target out in Dearborn."

I only go to Dearborn for beer. No Islamic terrorists at Merchant's Fine Wine!
 
2006-02-15 12:36:55 PM
kregh99

First of all, turn off the caps lock - you look like an idiot.

Second of all, the number of "terrorists" is never going to be well known, but the list will increase every time intel finds another one and as known members change their names/add aliases. Also, new groups were added as "terrorist groups," thereby sticking new names to the list.

The number of terrorists has most certainly increased, but to quote numbers such as that makes you look ill informed. If you wanted to discredit yourself, Mission Accomplished.
 
2006-02-15 12:39:56 PM
Der Poopflinger

That's right. Let's roll over and play dead. That works really well, too. I personally don't mind extremist muslims who are hell-bent on taking over the world, who want to oppress everyone who doesn't believe like them and execute the infidels. Entertainment, having fun? Nope, those things are frowned on by these guys.

Of course, you use the internet and probably don't worship towards Mecca multiple times in the day, so you'd be on the "immediate death" list. But if that's what you dig, who am I to say you're an idiot? And not to worry, there's plenty of time for you to convert!
 
2006-02-15 12:40:17 PM
So how many war dollars per terrorist does that work out to?

/FLAME ON!
 
2006-02-15 12:40:25 PM
This thread needs more 1970s singer/songwriters.

/breaking down the walls of silence
//lifting shadows from your mind
 
2006-02-15 12:41:23 PM
What percentage of people on this list are completely innocent?
30%? 50%?

It's certainly not zero.
Bush now has carte blanche to spy on whoever he wants.
Very sad times for honest Americans but hey ....if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear....unless your an American with brown eyes of mid-eatern descent.Then all bets are off.
 
2006-02-15 12:41:34 PM
Now e-mail them and about natural male enhancement.


/Ya A small dick joke, I TOTALLY when there.
 
2006-02-15 12:41:56 PM
ypsifly: I only go to Dearborn for beer.

If you're in the Y-Psi there's many other places to go for beer that will have the added advantage of being populated more by hot white chicks than people that might just explode randomly.

/yeah, that was racist
//but which part?
 
2006-02-15 12:42:46 PM
errr....that's eastern descent.
 
2006-02-15 12:44:24 PM
Pretty soon this will be a "Not a terrorist" list. It will be declared that all Americans are suspected terrorists, except for the people on this list. I give it 2-10 years until this is more or less the case.

Welcome to Oceana. This isn't a war on terror. It's a war on the Constitution, and the constitution is loosing. I'm a lot more afraid of our politicians than I am of terrorists. The politicians are the ones taking away our rights, not the boogeymen al CIAda.


u19s.quaker.org.uk

To paraphrase what Yossarian said in Catch 22, the person who is trying to harm me and harm my rights is the real enemy. Doesn't matter if they're Iraqi, Saudi, British, or Texan. We all have a higher chance of being killed in a car accident than from terrorism, but the politicians think we shouldn't use the bill of rights anymore. Dont tread on the American people.
 
2006-02-15 12:44:36 PM
Percentage of Iraqi behind 9/11 attacks: 0%
Percentage of Saudi Arabians behind 9/11 attacks: 100%
Correlation between 9/11 and starting war in Iraq: 0
The rest of the world can't understand WTF the US military is doing there.
 
2006-02-15 12:46:45 PM
The list includes names of suspects but some innocent people share a name with a suspect or have a similar name to one on the list.


Anyone else find it funny that in this day and age, the name is the identifying characteristic?

I mean how hard is it to fake a name, and how many collisions are there for names? It's absurd.
 
2006-02-15 12:48:15 PM
milk_plus:
I think they forgot a few people in Iraq:

Approving attacks on foreign troops occupying your country does not equal support of terrorism.
 
2006-02-15 12:51:11 PM
2006-02-15 12:41:23 PM Mr.Man [TotalFark]

Very sad times for honest Americans but hey ....if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear....unless your an American with brown eyes of mid-eatern descent.Then all bets are off.


"brown eyes" are like opinions -- EVERYBODY's got one!
 
2006-02-15 12:55:20 PM
Just to add to my post, we defeated the Empire of Japan and Germany's Third Reich without having to discard our constitutional rights. But now, because of a few crusty zealots and a hand full of rag-tags, were supposed to abridge the Bill of Rights, and trust the ever-trustworthy and forthcoming Bush Administration that it won't violate us? That's quite the leap of faith.

And in his testimony to congress last week, Alberto Gonzalez more or less said that the 4th Ammendment of the Constitution has now been revoked. Reality check, people.

The administration knows that their actions were (and are) in violation of federal law (FISA), so their legal strategy is to say that the law somehow doesn't apply to them, even though it was written specifically for presidential administrations. I think they have realized that they have been caught red handed, so are trying to say that they are now above the law. Hopefully our federal prosecutors do their job, and bring to justice anyone who has been found to have violated this law.
 
2006-02-15 12:56:49 PM
Dansker
Yea I agree, note the disclamor at the bottom.

Fact is we aren't making friends over there and nearly 1/2 of Iraqis think it's a good thing that US forces are attacked. I'll grant you that almost none of those people are going to attack the US themselves but they will help create a state that supports terrorism against the US.
 
2006-02-15 12:58:12 PM
2006-02-15 12:55:20 PM Goodfella [TotalFark]

Just to add to my post, we defeated the Empire of Japan and Germany's Third Reich without having to discard our constitutional rights.


Were the interned Japanese-Americans given due process? I was under the impression that that wasn't the case.

The administration knows that their actions were (and are) in violation of federal law (FISA), so their legal strategy is to say that the law somehow doesn't apply to them, even though it was written specifically for presidential administrations. I think they have realized that they have been caught red handed, so are trying to say that they are now above the law. Hopefully our federal prosecutors do their job, and bring to justice anyone who has been found to have violated this law.

I hope so too, but I'm not holding my breath...
 
2006-02-15 01:00:37 PM
Just keep capping the number 2 guy. They file in behind eachother and move up like shark teeth. Heh.
 
2006-02-15 01:06:05 PM
milk_plus:
Yea I agree, note the disclamor at the bottom.

Fact is we aren't making friends over there and nearly 1/2 of Iraqis think it's a good thing that US forces are attacked. I'll grant you that almost none of those people are going to attack the US themselves but they will help create a state that supports terrorism against the US.


Where we disagree, is that I don't think attacks on foreign troops* occupying your country constitutes terrorism.
If they said they approved of attacks on civilians, it would be different.

*includes Danish troops in the case of Iraq.
 
2006-02-15 01:06:57 PM
If you have talked to anyone of them, or have talked to anyone who has talked to anyone of them, NSA probably has a file on you.

/Freedom is slavery
 
2006-02-15 01:08:28 PM
Only when we follow our leaders blindly will we have a chance at real freedom.

[/Frank Burns]
 
2006-02-15 01:20:55 PM
BrotherLove
"brown eyes" are like opinions -- EVERYBODY's got one!

Your kidding! Everyone has an opinion?!That's amazing!
Wow are you perceptive,next thing you'll be bragging that you can add 1+1.
 
2006-02-15 01:21:02 PM
wait wait new number you in the back you look like a terrorist, so 325,001 and counting
 
2006-02-15 01:25:23 PM
Since were on the subject of finding terrorists, one of my stats professors said an amusing thing. Data mining (he I believe is rather big in the field) has a good future due to the governments desire to find terrorists based on their actions. The reason is that statistically the goal is pretty much impossible so there is little chance of you ever finishing the job. So as long as you can fool the goverment into thinking there is some hope (or just tell them een if they know there is none), so it can in turn tell the people it is "doing something" you will have a job.

As a result all the data the government is collecting on people to find terrorists is worthless. The specific reason is simple; there are very few terrorists and many non-terrorists. Thus there is both lack of reliable data on how terrorists behave and a comparatively large amount of noise.
 
2006-02-15 01:28:20 PM
"Somewhere in Cleveland there's some guy named Al Kida - K - I - D - A... He's freaking out!"

-Dan Bern, "Talkin' Al Kida Blues"
 
2006-02-15 01:45:12 PM
% about the same as the % of the geys in europe
 
2006-02-15 02:00:06 PM
Marcus Aurelius: How many ways can you spell "Cat Stevens"?

Cat Stevens...
Katt Stephanz...

My guess is 2.
 
2006-02-15 02:20:12 PM
Lord Humongous: Only when we follow our leaders blindly will we have a chance at real freedom.

Brainwashing at work...
 
2006-02-15 02:26:26 PM
How do I get on the list?

How about if I suggest Bush should go hunting soon?
 
2006-02-15 03:28:41 PM
Yeah, Bush is doing a stellar job with the war on terra.
 
2006-02-15 06:14:54 PM
iamjustsittingwatchingthetimegobye
% about the same as the % of the geys in europe

Was that supposed to make sense?
 
2006-02-15 07:51:32 PM
Whats the no-fly list at now? 1 million? More?
 
2006-02-15 08:52:37 PM
I'm most surprised that number is not larger.
 
2006-02-16 11:41:25 PM
props to submitter -- so tell me, sir, what's it like being a sterotyping racist?
 
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