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(Nola.com)   Houston police veteran sums up New Orleans evacuees thusly: "Most of them are -- I'm trying to think of a good word -- wiseasses. Yep, wiseasses"   (nola.com) divider line 376
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2006-02-13 02:16:50 AM
Almost anyone who has ever sat down and thought about any sort of governmental system has realized democracies leave much room for fault.
But its the only way to make it legitimate to fark people over and get ahead, by telling everyone they have the same fair shot at it.
 
2006-02-13 02:17:04 AM
letapecul

Right. They are free to elect asshats (as they apparently have done). And when those asshats run true to form...they are free to oust them next time around.

Or, OTOH...the asshats realize that they CANNOT continue to be asshats and still remain in power...they might cool down a bit.
 
2006-02-13 02:17:58 AM
What the fark is up with all the formatting in these posts? Did an article on using the center tag top digg or something?
 
2006-02-13 02:18:25 AM
I hear ya varezz.

I wonder what would have happened if Detroit got the bulk of evacuees. Maybe Motown would have cooled their jets. I love Detroit, but I'll bet this scenario would have been totally different had they been brought up to Wayne CO, MI. The folks in the hood around here don't put up with that shiat.

Send 'em up here so they can try to gnaw some meat off of a bone that's been dead a long time. The locals would eat them alive.
 
2006-02-13 02:19:54 AM
What does OTOH mean?

/seriously
//first time with the backslashes
 
2006-02-13 02:20:56 AM
On The Other Hand
 
2006-02-13 02:22:36 AM
YouPeopleAreCrazy

Right. They are free to elect asshats (as they apparently have done). And when those asshats run true to form...they are free to oust them next time around.

yeah, im just worried that when the asshats run true to form, everyone in their electorate are going to be really happy about it

Or, OTOH...the asshats realize that they CANNOT continue to be asshats and still remain in power...they might cool down a bit.

right on. i am definitely hoping thats what happens. like previously posted, its kinda hard to be revolutionary and dangerous when you have to clean shiat up
 
2006-02-13 02:28:36 AM
poverty stricken black people and crime? who would have thought?
 
2006-02-13 02:29:09 AM
everybodys had to fight to be free
see, you dont have to live like a refugee
 
2006-02-13 02:30:05 AM
nuclear_asshat

I got the $2,000 for Rita. Helped me find a new apartment, replaced the $500 worth of things stolen from my looted apartment that my insurance's deductable didn't cover, replaced the food I had to toss before and after evacuating, paid for the food, toiletries and clothes I bought in Natchitoches as an evacuee and helped pay for the extra gas I used driving to Jennings because everything in Lake Charles was closed for the first week I returned to work.

My parents got it for Rita, too. They used it to buy a generator and fuel so they could begin repairing their home. They didn't need food as badly because they were out of power for two weeks and had FEMA and the Salvation Army giving them free meals.

Without FEMA's help, I would have burned through my just-started savings, and my parents would have had to pull from their retirement fund. Handout worked just fine, thank you, worked just fine for worthwhile purposes for most everyone who got it.

FEMA gave it to a ton of people who didn't deserve it, withheld it from a ton of people who did - that's FEMA. Don't knock a good thing just because idiots are the only ones to make the news. Let me know what you think of it if and when you're unfortunate enough to experience something similar.

There's still people _here_, in west Louisiana, who are homeless from Rita. They will be for months. NO got devastated, Buras got trashed, but Cameron - it literally got wiped off the map. I'm all for making sure the people there can survive, with whatever help they can get - and they've gotten next to nothing compared to the people of New Orleans.
 
2006-02-13 02:50:21 AM
I love how so many of the people shouting "personal responsibility" seem to fail to take into account a few other factors:

1) psychological impact of losing home and 99.9% of what little you had

2) heavy percentage of supremely uneducated evacuees (not going to make up statistics, but Louisiana's national education ranking skyrocketted after the hurricanes)

3) for the most part, these aren't people that weren't poor before the hurricanes. Their lifestyles are typically a combination of living the way their parents live(d) (that live(d) the way their parents live(d) that live(d) the way, etc.) and living the way their peers (that also learned to live(d) the way their parents live(d)...). That's a pretty strong cycle to break out of, from what I hear.

4) work ethic in this country sucks, generally speaking. I was laidoff due to the hurricanes devastating La. government offices that had contracts with the company I worked for. I have no car and I'm in school, so I had to find a place within biking distance (since until two weeks ago, there were no bike racks on the busses). I finally got hired as a busboy and have been getting complimented left and right for simply wiping the seats after people leave! The people I work with aren't poor, uneducated twenty-somethings, but they're not rich, well-to-do ones, either. Yet, none of them generally bother to take a little pride in even the menial stuff they do. If the middle-class isn't bothering to go the extra meter, I don't expect the lower-class to go the extra mile.

This is offtopic in terms of the criminal element. There's no excuse for criminal behavior. But there's more at play here than just being displaced and the solution is more complex than just "getting a job." FEMA and the other U.S. departments that are responsible for taking care of situations like this still aren't coughing up the money needed for the state and its displaced citizens to properly recover. So no, I don't think 6 months is long enough for them to be living off tax dollars if 6 months isn't long enough for the government to properly dole out needed money.

/Who am I kidding? Iraq has bankrupted this country of money and integrity.
//Evacuees can't get money that doesn't exist.
///worked almost every night for a month at the Cajundome post-Katrina
////talked to lots of good evacuees I could see needing more time
/////Quagmire says "Slashiddy slashiddy sloo"
//i'm not funny
 
2006-02-13 02:58:35 AM
Every city in America is the same - it's the hard truth. In Los Angeles,you can drive to Rancho Palos Verdes, and you will see a rich, white neighborhood. If you go to Anaheim, you'll see predominate Hispanics. If you go to Torrance/Carson, you will see whites/asian (for some reason or another, whites and asians seem (opinion) to get along famously). And yes, if you go to Compton, you will see blacks. Is this because of racism dating back to the 1950s? Possibly. Is it more likely that people of similar races/nationalities find more common ground and choose to live together? Yes.

The point - a lot of friction develops with forced integration. You see it in Texas with the forced movement of Katrina avacutees. Do white people like to be around white people? I assume so - after all, the majority you would expect to see are Christian (religion used as a bond), come from the Middle class (social class connection), fairly educated, ect. So these things are bound to happen.
 
2006-02-13 02:59:26 AM
I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

The world is full of low class people of all different races.

The majority of the victims are black. The way they are acting doesn't have to do with the fact that they are black.

If the majority of the victims were white I'm sure the behavior would be the same.

It's amazing how this got turned into a race discussion.

\ Knows it's politically correct to say "African American"
\\ Will use the term "African American" when the BET becomes the "African American Entertainment Television".
 
2006-02-13 03:11:58 AM
organs in mains: \\ Will use the term "African American" when the BET becomes the "African American Entertainment Television".

How about using the term Colored Person or Negro since we have the NAACP and the UNCF?
 
2006-02-13 03:13:32 AM
I visited this much-vaunted Digg and I must warn you:

easyjetinflight.com
 
2006-02-13 03:24:15 AM
jpbreon

Every city in America is the same - it's the hard truth. In Los Angeles,you can drive to Rancho Palos Verdes, and you will see a rich, white neighborhood. If you go to Anaheim, you'll see predominate Hispanics. If you go to Torrance/Carson, you will see whites/asian (for some reason or another, whites and asians seem (opinion) to get along famously). And yes, if you go to Compton, you will see blacks. Is this because of racism dating back to the 1950s? Possibly. Is it more likely that people of similar races/nationalities find more common ground and choose to live together? Yes.

The point - a lot of friction develops with forced integration. You see it in Texas with the forced movement of Katrina avacutees. Do white people like to be around white people? I assume so - after all, the majority you would expect to see are Christian (religion used as a bond), come from the Middle class (social class connection), fairly educated, ect. So these things are bound to happen.

Here's the deal, the city, county etc.. placed 6000 of them in the Fondren Southwest area a predominantly black part of Houston. The black residents of Houston got the worst of the worst from Nawlins. It's not white vs black in Houston, it's come on and get with the program. Stop the bullshiat.
Rita wiped out entire communities and those folks got the shaft, but not Nawlins!! cause if you don't help the "Superdome loot crew you be racist."

Just go home and rebuild. Yes, get your community together and go work. Oh I forget The NEW New Orleans doesn't want them back.

 
2006-02-13 03:33:27 AM
poor black people should be shot on sight.

/they ain't worth anything anyways.
/ yep. damn poor attractive and successful African-Americans.
///flame on
 
2006-02-13 03:34:26 AM
p.s.
also goes for poor white trash
 
2006-02-13 03:35:37 AM
varezz

Now you see the real degradation of America. Everyone loves to blame it on Bush and his fundies, but it really is our soceity as a whole.

We love freedom of expression, so we think that means if you can express it, you SHOULD express it. So Hollywood and media love showing people being bad and being celebrated for it.

If you disagree, or raise questions about that, the left will bear down on you for "oppressing my right to express myself". People in America don't think they ever should have to shut up. We love displaying violence, sex, adultury, alcoholism, drugs, to every kid through every avaliable outlet. Not because it is smart, and they have a right to do so, but because they want the dollars. And it is social pollution.

Now I know I will be painted an oppressor, a fundie, and all that. But no one can deny - we glorify social ills. We love the story of a gangbangin thug shooting up a place for his drugs so he can "feed" his family. That's crap. Our irresponsibilty in filtering the world for our kids is finally producing results. They grow up and think that's how the real world works.

We need to clean up our soceity. I know everyone wants to drink blood, hate religion, smoke pot, and biatch about jobs, but you aren't only hurting yourself.
 
2006-02-13 03:36:51 AM
bahahahahah! got got by the filters...
/that read "damn n--i---ngg--er--s"
 
2006-02-13 03:47:44 AM
It is not race, it is culture that divides our society. It pains me when my black schoolmates and co-workers (intelligent, interesting people) are painted with the same broad brush as a bunch of clowns from the ghetto, and it also pains me that whenever I bring up these said clowns, I am accused of racism. The culture of addiction, failure, government entitlement and stupidity transcends race, but remains predominantly a fixture of the African American community, whether or not you choose to ignore that fact.

Why can't we say that the dislike and distrust Katrina refugees managed to create for themselves in numerous communities is due to their culture? So what if most of these people are black? That reflects more on ghetto people than it does on black people. Not all ghetto people are black. Not all blacks are ghetto people. This is not a race thing first-and-foremost.

Some people only see two sides: racist and not racist. These people have no future in American politics. It's time that we all recognize that culture transcends race, and some cultures in our melting pot encourage violence and dependence on enetitlements.
 
2006-02-13 03:57:50 AM
2006-02-13 12:21:28 AM RockIsDead
Hawaii is one of the most racist states, once you get past the "we love your houlie cash" surface crap.


We've also got the most RACES of any state, except maybe California, which beats us out by sheer virtue of size alone. While most of the rest of you assholes think in black and white and nothing else, we've got just about every thing under the sun.

We started as a state when haoles (honkeys, to you southerners) started importing chinks, japs, and manongs to do their plantation scutwork under the supervision of portagees. This is in addition to the kanaks, some of which dealt with the new way of things better than others. Nowadays, of course, we've got a ton of all of that, most of the plantation kids got educated and turned into bananas, plus we got a shiatload of kimchis running rub and tugs on Koreamoku street.

/testing the FarkFilter, and trying to blow your little minds
//half jap, half portagee
 
2006-02-13 03:58:16 AM
LocalCynic
If Boca Raton or the Jersey shore are hit by a natural disaster and a bunch of rich white Republicans are reduced to starving refugees, we'll see what happens


I have two words for you Hurricane Andrew. A Cat5 that hit South Florida and wreaked havoc. My brother was in the National Guard and spent 45 days in the effort to rebuild, distribute food and water, and control crime. Six months after it was over, life in Southern Florida was approaching normal and people were moving on with their lives.

Katrina is a wake up call on many levels. Yes, America still suffers from rampant poverty and racism. Also YES, the welfare system does Absolutely Nothing to end it. If you need proof, just scroll to the top of this thread and read it again. If Welfare worked, (and I mean culturally, not individually) then poverty should have been erased or radically minimized in the 70's. It wasn't.

I believe in compassion for your fellow man. I believe these people all need our help and our prayers, but I also beleive in responsibility, and beyond that what about just plain human politeness and decency. If your life is destroyed andthe government and other communities organize any freakin help at all then be thankful and keep on keepin on. When I hear stories of people being ungrateful after being put up in hotels for six months then I think about how many governments on the planet would have just given those people as big "Sorry 'bout that shiat" laughed and moved on.

/I also believe that there is no such word as "uniquest" it is most unique
//I also believe that 357 is a troll
///I also believe that someone will probably post the "I believe" poster after this to make fun of me.
 
2006-02-13 04:07:42 AM
ypsifly: Send 'em up here so they can try to gnaw some meat off of a bone that's been dead a long time. The locals would eat them alive.


Yup my pops was born and raised in Pontiac and they know how to take care of themselves, someone tried to rob my uncle for his wallet, and literally ended up pressing charges against him for assault cause my uncle snapped his back in two places. Of course the jury didnt convict, I mean its Pontiac.

/Loves his uncle cause he went to Indiana and bought a ton of illegal fireworks for my 14th 4 of july.
 
2006-02-13 04:10:16 AM
2Questions:

Why aren't the evacuees from Mississippi doing the same kinds of stuff the N.O. evacuees are doing?

Why arent the people in Texas who lost THEIR homes doing the same kinds of things the N.O. people are doing?

Anser: The N.O. people are mostly ghetto trash.
 
2006-02-13 05:05:02 AM
Fark It
I wasn't trying to say the middle class was destabilizing, actually I tend to think the middle class acts as a buffer...most countries that do not have a sizeable middle class have significantly more overt class conflict. The problem is no longer humans, although the elite do play a part. Corporations have taken the jobs, money and soul out of this country. Those who are complicit in this are rarely middle class. Generally it's old white dudes who have more money than most of us combined.
 
2006-02-13 05:11:23 AM
Well, I certainly can say there are people who do not work even when it is available. And (from a californian) there are certainly those who live off the government. However, to me this does not invalidate the need for social programs. Probably more horseshiat in your opinion, but people that grew up poor don't want to sound poor. It is harder than you think to sit around with the "homies" and say how hard up, destitute, and grateful you are with government assistance. Bravado is how a lot of people face terrible situations. What people say out loud with the "homies" isn't necessarily what they think deep down. I wholly doubt anyone is truly gleeful that they're in a strange town, hated by the populace, and by no means given a permanent meal ticket.
 
2006-02-13 05:51:47 AM
Some people will put up with the worst in government officials to get a free lunch... Learn the system and endure the difficulties... Crack wiseass jokes to deflect attention away from their miserable lives.

Those people are not the "cream that has risen to the top" of society... Nope, they are a hardened crew and ready to endure another day of bureaucracy to get that lunch.

I'm not just talking about our politicians.

Houston... Finish this sentence. "Every good deed...
 
2006-02-13 05:58:10 AM
Here is a sample of the newspeak that never calls a spade a spade- you are no longer a "thief", "thug" or 'robber' now you are merely "ensnarled in violence"- as if it overcame you as victim or perp alike.

Patrolling recently at 2 a.m., King pointed out place after place where violence had ensnarled evacuees, as victims and suspects.

This is a grade higher than "having to resort to crime".

There is no blame whatsoever for the criminal (unless he's not in a politically incorrect sub-category of course)-

the blame will shift wordlessly to "society", or on this fark thread- somehow to capitalism or anyone who doesn't support massive free-money lifestyles called "programs."
 
2006-02-13 06:17:01 AM
Soy bomb
I have always wondered how stating the truth can be racist. If you say "several thousand people mostly black were displaced to Houston and the violent crime rate rose dramatically" this is NOT racist, it is merely stating the truth. When we are compelled to lie in order to satisfy some political end there lies true danger. How can we solve a problem that we deny exists?

'Cause you're white, cracker.


I have to give you credit, THAT is funny.

/You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.
 
2006-02-13 06:51:16 AM
mratzl IMO they've become spoiled with all the free money and assistance. I've lived around people like this most of my life and I know from experience that they won't learn how to take care of themselves.

The best part is there are liberals literally fighting tooth and nail to find a way, ANY WAY to give these ungrateful parasites more of our tax dollars.

When you hand someone a welfare check, and their way of thanking you is sticking a knife to your throat and taking your wallet and jewelery too, maybe it's time to stop handing them the check in the first place. At least make them work for their money, make them hunt you down to steal it.
 
2006-02-13 06:54:08 AM
houston police are........im trying to think of a good word.....assholes. yeah assholes.
 
2006-02-13 06:56:36 AM
We have a few NOLA folks who've moved to my part of NC. Most of these folks were able to get jobs quickly enough, probably because they had jobs long before they moved here. Face it, if those people actually looked for work they might find work. This is a reality call, the great free ride has come to an end.

Espertron: quit bragging about RDU, we don't need a NOLA flood ! :)
 
2006-02-13 07:31:34 AM
It's hard to believe how many people here hat these victims. Of course you are going to have problems when you bring large amounts of poor into your cities. The problem here is that we have forgotten how bad the gulf coast was hit. Those suggesting a move back, move back to what? It's still a mess. It seems that most of the "compationate conservatives" have flown the coop. Where are all the president's men o' Fark telling people that we will do whatever it takes to make NOLA great again?

If your poor and you loose what little you have, how are you expected to "pull yourself up by the bootstraps." Particularly if you were not able to do it where you had some stability before Katrina. I see a lot of complaining but very few solutions. How is it that people don't post photoshops of all the white faces of people with million dollar homes that slid into the sea asking for the government to rebuild those?
 
2006-02-13 07:37:36 AM
If the majority of the victims were white I'm sure the behavior would be the same.

Did you see this kind of shiat from the white trash in Florida that gets their trailers destroyed all the time? No.

But then again, I bet you believe the racist media covered it up so as not to slander the white folks because only black peoples act like that.....

Face it people some of these people have this crap ingrained into the fing head that they deserve all this free shiat and if they dont get it they can take it and that its ok cause whitey keeps them down.
 
2006-02-13 07:47:11 AM
img.photobucket.com
After thinking about it, I have come to the conclusion that 357 just might have been what is known on public Internet discussion forums as a "troll"
 
2006-02-13 07:47:42 AM
LocalCynic

If Boca Raton or the Jersey shore are hit by a natural disasterr and a bunch of rich white Republicans...

Boca Raton is populated by rich white Republicans?
Come again?
 
2006-02-13 07:53:28 AM
OMG! This is the most hysterical thread evah! So many racists, and all so very, very cliched. I laughed till I cried... literally.

Nawlins was one of the finest cities on Earth. I miss her.

Houston was Satan's litterbox. Yeck! Birds fly over Houston upside down, cause it ain't worth shiattin' on.

/please do continue your petty bickering
//I find it fascinating
 
2006-02-13 07:53:40 AM
George Bush doesn't care about wiseasses
 
2006-02-13 08:18:48 AM
After 6 months one would think a intelligent person would have found other options. But they sit here in Houston whineing about wanting more. Last week they could afford a road trip to DC to complain about not getting more free stuff. Why can't they commute to NO and work there each day helping to clean up and rebuild? Well besides the fact they are too lazy.. And who wants to bet in 3 months there are going to be a lot of new babies born?
I think we should kick them out of Houston and let them find their own way and stop giving them excuses for how they act. And those who say they lost their homes of over 100 years, I doubt any of them have been alive that long and one would guess most of them did not own the place they were living in to begin with, and those who did were supposed to have insurance if they did not tough..
Let them go back to their racist mayor and let him support them.

/Not racist just facts.
 
2006-02-13 08:19:31 AM
How can it be racism if it's true?

If it's true, but racist, who cares?
 
2006-02-13 08:26:36 AM
Give these colored folk a hand out, not a hand up.
 
2006-02-13 08:33:51 AM
After skimming through the thread, I'd like to give 9.2 points to 357 for a sublime trolling run. Beautiful form, great persistence and superb effort-to-result ratio.
 
2006-02-13 08:40:51 AM
357: You are the most dispised member of teh black race.

So you despise him because he's not racially and ideologically pure enough for you? Gee, where have I heard that kind of thing before...
 
2006-02-13 08:48:55 AM
It's seems the great society saftey net has turned into a hammock.

Thanks LBJ!
 
2006-02-13 08:50:40 AM
it's like the ant and the grasshopper
 
2006-02-13 08:52:32 AM
img.photobucket.com
Life is hard.
 
2006-02-13 08:52:49 AM
New Orleans, for better or worse, was like America's septic tank. The police were looters, rioters, murderers, cowards, and did little to enforce the law, the general population were drunkards, gamblers, partiers, and people who couldn't make it anywhere else. People don't change, just locations... it's shocking that Houston would expect these people to change, and even more shocking that the cops would expect these people to respect police, after the only police they've ever met their entire lives until now have been just as morally bankrupt as them.
 
2006-02-13 08:59:10 AM
Oh ya, more on topic, I think the vouchers should be extended, not because they've earned them, or because I want to give them vouchers, but because they were promised housing until their trailer got set up closer to home so they could start rebuilding. As much as I hate freeloaders, I despise the idea of reneging on my word. As an economist, I wouldn't expect them to try to find jobs if I had promised them that they were going to get a trailer near their old home, and get to rebuild their life again, it wouldn't make sense for them to settle in just to move again. As a taxpayer, I see the problem not just as being that they are freeloaders, but as being 6 months after the disaster, even with some towns removing all administrative hurdles, and areas being ready, FEMA cant manage to put the trailers I pay for on some friggin dirt and let people move in. More angering is the fact that as taxpayers, we are shelling out 3k a month for a friggin trailer home, and still we can't get it put to good use. I mean, for more than a Manhattan 2br (Stuy Town) costs, you damn well better be able to get a trailer home in the bog.
 
2006-02-13 08:59:41 AM
 
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