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(Yahoo)   Japan's supply of whale meat from "scientific" hunting has grown so large, they're selling the excess for dog food. Your dog does not want blubberburgers   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 94
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2006-02-10 07:57:32 PM
Not sure how I feel about whale meat. On the one hand, I hate Greenpeace with a passion. On the other hand, I loved and respected Douglas Adams.

How do dolphins feel about whales?

/Yes, I know Greenpeace isn't in this article. I don't care.
 
2006-02-10 08:17:52 PM
Would eat elephant? I bet they're about as smart and social as whales.

/I'd eat elephant if I was hungry enough.
//Whale probably tastes nasty and greasy. Like your mama.
 
2006-02-10 08:18:41 PM
Yikes,

Would you eat elephant?

/can't speel toodae.
 
2006-02-10 08:20:10 PM
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

PETA might overhear us.
 
2006-02-10 08:21:03 PM
Farnsworth: A toast to Leela. She showed us it's wrong to eat certain things.

Fry: Hear, hear!

Bender: Let's get drunk!

Leela: Aww, thanks, guys. Pass the veal, please.

Bender: Here you go.

[He passes a plate over.]

Fry: Mmm, let me get some of that suckling pig.

[Amy passes it to him. Bender holds up a plate.]

Bender: Who wants dolphin?

[Everyone gasps.]

Leela: Dolphin? But dolphins are intelligent.

Bender: Not this one. He blew all his money on instant lottery tickets.

Fry: OK.

Leela: Oh, OK.

Amy: That's different.

Farnsworth: Good, good.

Leela: Pass the blowhole.

Amy: Can I have a fluke?

Hermes: Hey, quit hogging the bottle-nose.

Farnsworth: Toss me the speech centre of the brain!
 
2006-02-10 08:22:03 PM
I'm hungry enough to try a whale burger. I know that the Survivorman would eat blubber raw and juicy.
 
2006-02-10 08:24:26 PM
It has now been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, that not only will the Japanese eat almost anything that moves, but thier pets will as well.

/I still like Iron Chef
//Even after the "Seacucumber Battle".
 
2006-02-10 08:26:56 PM
I heard the whales sing ... breeeescreeeeeeehummmmmmmdoooooooowaaaaaaaaa Which loosley translates to "Eat me".

/so i did
 
2006-02-10 08:27:30 PM
I've eaten whale meat, but I'd recommend staying away from muktuk (blubber-it's really chewey). The meat is red and rich, and tastes fishy. So does walrus and seal meat. I like strong fish tastes. One time I got some whale meat that had gravel in it from the beach. Not pleasent.

Also, never eat the liver of any marine mammal, nor anything that has eaten the livers of other marine mammals. Too much vitamin A will kill you.

One last tip, stay away from the fermented seal and walrus flippers, unless you know they were prepared in the traditional way, grass lined pits.
 
2006-02-10 08:28:33 PM
Bonzo_1116

Whale probably tastes nasty and greasy. Like your mama.

Ya...well...my nasty and greasy mama could kick your nasty and greasy mama's ass!

//hehe...i keed, mang ;)
 
2006-02-10 08:29:58 PM
There's no penalties for breaking fishing sanctions, like the global ban on whaling. What's the world going to do, not buy Toyotas until they stop? Too bad the UN doesn't have the power or will to do anything...
 
2006-02-10 08:31:45 PM
If God didn't want us to eat animals he wouldn't have made them out of meat.
 
2006-02-10 08:32:19 PM
Bastards. Killing is Badong.

And why do people hate Greenpeace? Something about trying to save the planet we are trying so very hard to poison, pollute and generally destroy you disagree with? Or was it simply you read it on Fark that good things are bad so you went along with it?
 
2006-02-10 08:32:35 PM
After seeing what Steve-O did to that seacucumber, I dont think I could eat it...

As for whale, I'm sure it tastes as good as other mammals do. Mmmmm mammals.
 
2006-02-10 08:33:12 PM
They seem to like this over there a lot too.

Sorta NSFW
 
2006-02-10 08:33:26 PM
The Japanese study whales like the Bush administration studies global warming.
 
2006-02-10 08:33:49 PM
sdtangler:

That's why we have the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society.

www.whales.org.au

I'll be happy the day every one of those whaling ships is sunk.

(P.S. - Muslim protesters, burn the Japanese embassies while you're at it, too? Thanks.)
 
2006-02-10 08:34:38 PM
totalsecurity
My cousin got to eat some muktuk when he was in Greenland. He said it was pretty foul, but if that's all there is to eat you just get chewing.

So does whale taste sort of like a burger made with a mix of fatty pork and fresh mackerel filet? I think I might actually eat that.
 
2006-02-10 08:34:38 PM
www.sciencediet.com
 
2006-02-10 08:35:51 PM
Pogee,
That was weird and disturbing. Very disturbing.
 
2006-02-10 08:36:51 PM
In an attempt to shift the rising whale meat mountains...

That almost sounds like porn.

totalsecurity - it sounds like you've been to some interesting backwoods barbecues... "stay away from the fermented seal and walrus flippers, unless you know they were prepared in the traditional way"

God bless you man, I thought I could eat about anything, but just thinking of those two things brings a bit of a gag...
 
2006-02-10 08:38:07 PM
totalsecurity - bravo. Glad to see there are people out there that actually respect & learn from other cultures. Instead of just taking their land, or money, or oil or whatever else they have that we want.

\cousin's bf is half dakota
 
2006-02-10 08:39:17 PM
World: Stop killing whales for scientific purposes in quantaties so large you must sell pile of meat as dog food or else!!



Japanese: Ohh! Of Course! We only study whales because they have such large penises, much like the rest of the world. The World has such large penises, we have penises that are so small (Soo small)...



World:(staring at its own crotch) Well okay then, when you put it that way...

/Yata!
 
2006-02-10 08:40:30 PM
Pogee: They seem to like this over there a lot too.

Apparently you need a helmet for Bukkake now? I'd blame OSHA, but this is Japan.

Wouldn't goggles be more useful?

Oh, wait, that's right, they do nothing.
 
2006-02-10 08:42:17 PM
clickman


That's why we have the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society.


You mean those talentless morans who abandoned thier "Sea Shepherd II" boat in the Uclulet harbour in 1992? I just looked at thier site, and it says they "sold" it. Bullshiat. They left it to sink, sat there for more than a year and a half.

I was there and helped dispose of the more than 20,000 gallons of oil contaminated bilge water floating around in it's hull. The bill came to over 15 grand for the cleanup, and was borne by the townspeople of Ucluelet.

Asshats.

Support GreenPeace. They at least clean up after themselves.
 
2006-02-10 08:44:56 PM
Clickman I read a Paul Watson book a few years back; he's a ballsy mofo.
 
2006-02-10 08:45:17 PM
holmw13

I actually thought so too, the first time I saw it...

Tubercular Ox

I suppose the helmet is there to prevent....... Damn I can't think of anything.
 
2006-02-10 08:45:17 PM
DO NOT WANT!
 
2006-02-10 08:46:43 PM
Time to polish up the ol' A-bombs.
 
2006-02-10 08:46:47 PM
I'm not a hippy or nothing infact being a Police Officer I'm more conservative...However slaughtering whales is wrong, they are intelligent beings.

Also I once saw this Star Trek movie where the extinction of humpbacks caused armageddon.. :)
 
2006-02-10 08:51:06 PM
Pogee:

I can't find anything to support that, and in fact the only thing I can find says that this is a lie -- this news report.

According to that, it was sold to a private owner who planned to turn it into a bed and breakfast for $5000.

Support your stories, or tuck your tail between your legs and run.
 
2006-02-10 08:56:15 PM
clickman

I may, in fact not be able to find anything online which I can show as proof, but I will at least try.

And no, we never tuck our tails and run, if we know what happened from personal experience. If you choose not to believe me, that is your decision, and I can understand that.
 
2006-02-10 08:57:43 PM
2006-02-10 08:34:38 PM Bonzo_1116 Muktuk is not really foul, just very chewy. Best to take it in very small pieces, and pretend like it's bubble gum. And I didn't have a whale burger; we cook it on the grill.

2006-02-10 08:36:51 PM Aldo the Wonder Dog When stinkyheads, or stinky flippers, etc. is prepared in grass-lined pits, it's not bad. Well, if you like stinky foods (I do, mmmm kimchee). It's worked for thousands of years. But in this modern world, people get lazy and ferment them in plastic buckets, which makes for botulism. And yes, I've been to some interesting barbeques, to say the least.

2006-02-10 08:38:07 PM FriarReb98
Grandfather was Seminole
 
2006-02-10 09:00:27 PM
img69.imageshack.us

mmmmm,,,, Whale blubber.
 
2006-02-10 09:04:09 PM
They were pulling this crap back in the 80s. Science my butt.
 
2006-02-10 09:07:30 PM
clickman
I did actually find something... Here's the relevant text fiollowed by the link to the page containing it.

The next morning is beautiful and we go exploring. Port Alberni Yacht Club is on an island and there are trails leading around the island. We walk the trails and explore some of the beaches with Ernest, Brian and Ted. There is a moored, half sunk freighter in the bay across from the Yacht Club. What the freighter is doing there, we have no idea. [UPDATE 2002: Per one of my readers, this ship was/is the Sea Shepherd II of Captain Paul Watson fame, which was basically abandoned for unpaid moorage near Ucluelet and later moved to Robbers Passage in Barkley Sound. Originally the ship was a replacement for Sea Shepherd, which Watson scuttled somewhere in the Pacific.]

http://www.tgw.net/sailing/avi/ch4.htm

It's not news site story, but it at least somewhat validates the gist of my statement.

/Better than nothing.
 
2006-02-10 09:15:39 PM
[\b]Tjack, people are made of meat too, so what do you conclude from that?
 
2006-02-10 09:15:40 PM
Barricaded Gunman wins the thread with an awe-inspiring analogy.
 
2006-02-10 09:20:30 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1671306835544935588&q=whaling

I love the guy on the megaphone repeating "keep away from our ship".

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1671306835544935588&q=whaling

Greenpeace promo video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-585716941089093304&q=nuclear+bomb

Big ass underwater nucular (lol) bomb.

/bored
 
2006-02-10 09:25:28 PM
There's not really much evidence of higher intelligence in whales, that I've seen at least. For the most part they seem to just be riding on the coat-tails of studies on bottlenose dolphins. Still, uncertainty and lack of studies would be reason enough for me to be deeply uncomfortable doing anything other than erring on the side of caution when it comes to killing and eating a possibly self-aware creature.
 
2006-02-10 09:29:36 PM
This just proves my theory that the Japanese are assholes.
 
2006-02-10 09:29:41 PM
However slaughtering whales is wrong, they are intelligent beings.

Man I'm so sick of hearing crap like that. What difference does it make how damn smart an animal is? Either eat animals or don't eat animals. You can't say eating pigs is right but whales are wrong. What makes the whale more worthy of life than a cow or a chicken? Whales didn't invent the freakin light bulb, they swim around and eat fish just like every other creature in the ocean.
 
2006-02-10 09:30:33 PM
Emerson999

Not trying to sound like an asshat, but... Cows, pigs, chickens, goats, ducks, deer are all self-aware aren't they?

Don't you think so?
 
2006-02-10 09:31:49 PM
Aren't many species of whales still endangered?
 
2006-02-10 09:37:14 PM
Jeeum

I hear Johnathan Swift made a modest proposal regarding that.

mmmm, long pig.
 
2006-02-10 09:38:09 PM
gasdf2002:

Yes, and the Japanese hunt/plan to hunt in future years some of the endangered species.
 
2006-02-10 09:45:22 PM
Why is it bad to eat these whales if they're not endangered again?
 
2006-02-10 09:54:46 PM
Pogee: Not trying to sound like an asshat, but... Cows, pigs, chickens, goats, ducks, deer are all self-aware aren't they?

If cows, pigs, chickens, and goats weren't emotionally prepared to be eaten, they shouldn't have signed the domestication agreement.

/Can't think of anything snarky for ducks and deer.
//Would hate to have to present a rational argument.
///Hence, nothing.
 
2006-02-10 09:55:19 PM
It seems it would be easy for Greenpeace to feed whales with some Purina Whale Chow laced with an otherwise harmless bacteria that makes whale meat taste loathesome.

If they feed enough whales with it, it becomes unprofitable to hunt whales. Plus there is the added satisfaction of entire restaurants of Japanese puking their guts out simultaneously.
 
2006-02-10 09:56:33 PM
Pogee: Not trying to sound like an asshat, but... Cows, pigs, chickens, goats, ducks, deer are all self-aware aren't they?

Depends on how the term is used. I'm not really fond of it, for exactly the reason you point out. The way I hoped to expess it is closer to sentience, but again I don't really like that word either. It implies too strongly a seperation from instinct, and humans don't even really meet that criteria. Cognitive science in general needs to really work on a more unified lexicon. Or at least make me aware of one.

By self-aware, I meant closer to meta-cognition. The ability to place ones own thoughts outside of an environmental context. A higher level thought process similar to developmental tests given to children, where an object is hidden while a child watches, and then asked where a friend who walked into the room would look for it if that friend had reason to believe it was somewhere else. The ability to think about thinking, and play that spool out through their friends mind, is a good sign that there's a lot going on behind the kids skull.

Of course methods to test that are pretty limited, especially when dealing with something as big as a whale. I'm willing to take the ability to recognise ones own reflection as a reflection of oneself and interact with the image accordingly as a good sign in animals, especially when it also goes along with above average brain size in proportion to body mass and an abnormally well developed neocortex.

Plunkies: Whales didn't invent the freakin light bulb

Have you invented anything either?
 
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