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(Iwon)   Australia losing up to $75 million in lost tourist dollars because of bedbugs, reports Ministry of Pulling Numbers From Our Clackers   ( divider line
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2006-02-06 12:40:56 PM  
Remember kids, 74.6% of statistics are made up on the spot.
2006-02-06 12:41:06 PM  
2006-02-06 12:41:32 PM  
What's a clacker?

2006-02-06 12:41:58 PM  
If you lose lost dollars, does that mean you found them?
2006-02-06 12:43:32 PM  
Is it sad that I thought that bed bugs were imaginary?
2006-02-06 12:44:01 PM  
Australia losing up to $75 million in lost tourist dollars because of bedbugs, reports Ministry of Pulling Numbers From Our Clackers

Um...hey submitter, if the dollars are already lost, how can they lose them?
2006-02-06 12:44:10 PM  
Has nothing to do with Fosters.... no, not at all. Nothing whatsoever.
2006-02-06 12:47:00 PM  
I read somewhere that a Dutch oven kills these bedbugs. Anyone know for sure?
2006-02-06 12:48:16 PM  
countspankulus: Is it sad that I thought that bed bugs were imaginary?

Sweet dreams!
2006-02-06 12:48:30 PM  
Clacker : anus (from Latin cloaca = sewer). Also the single orifice of monotremes (platypus and echidna) used both for reproduction and for the elimination of body wastes.
2006-02-06 12:49:19 PM  
GIS for Bedbug....
2006-02-06 12:49:28 PM  
Legman: I read somewhere that a Dutch oven kills these bedbugs. Anyone know for sure?

Sure, if you hit them hard enough.
2006-02-06 12:49:59 PM  
2006-02-06 12:50:48 PM  
I stayed at a youth hostel on hawaii which was infested with those damn bugs. They are next to impossible to kill. I woke up to hundreds of them all over my wife and I, and little spots of blood all over the sheets.

note: never stay at a youth hostel in Kailua-Kona, Hawaii.
2006-02-06 12:52:15 PM  
2006-02-06 12:54:18 PM  
I thought it would be the sharks, huge and nasty bugs, crocodiles, poisonous snakes, etc.
2006-02-06 12:58:45 PM  
Yeah, bed bugs are a reason people are skipping Australian vacations.
That and the funnel web spiders.
And the snakes.
And the crocodiles.
And the platypi.
And the mutants.
2006-02-06 12:59:02 PM  


2006-02-06 01:02:59 PM  
Bed bugs, Box Jelly Fish, and Great Whites. Sounds like a tourist paradise :)
2006-02-06 01:03:52 PM  
Australians have cloacas? Damn, there goes my plan to hook up with an Aussie guy.
2006-02-06 01:04:22 PM
Wanted for questioning
2006-02-06 01:12:48 PM  
They haven't been an issue for years, except in some parts of europe. But now I've been reading things about them turning up in 4star hotels and stuch... and they are starting to come to the US again, thanks to dirty euro tourists. You gotta burn the whole farkin bed and spray the room to get rid of em.
2006-02-06 01:17:55 PM  
Spent the last year travelling australia and living in hostels, never had a problem with bed bugs, although i've talked to many that have apparantly.
2006-02-06 01:19:05 PM
Not useful against an insurgency
2006-02-06 01:21:11 PM  
You call that a Clacker? (bends over) THIS is a Clacker!

- "Crocodile Goat.."
2006-02-06 01:25:23 PM  
Dirty Euro tourists? Try dirty illegal immigrants.
2006-02-06 01:30:29 PM  
clackers is my new favorite word...
2006-02-06 01:42:03 PM  
Bring back DDT - eliminate malaria and bed bugs! It's that simple:

"Most householders of this generation have never seen a bed bug. Until recently, they also were a rarity among pest control professionals. Bed bug infestations were common in the United States before World War II. But with improvements in hygiene, and especially the widespread use of DDT during the 1940s and '50s, the bugs all but vanished. The pests remained prevalent, though, in other regions of the world including Asia, Africa, Central/South
America and Europe. In recent years, bed bugs have also made a comeback in the U.S. They are increasingly being encountered in homes, apartments, hotels, motels, dormitories, shelters and modes of transport. International travel has undoubtedly contributed to the resurgence of bed bugs in this country. Changes in modern pest control practice - and less effective bed bug pesticides - are other factors suspected for the recurrence."


"The African American Environmentalist Association believes that DDT (Dichloro-diphenyl-trichloroethane) insecticide should be used to prevent deaths from malaria in African countries. DDT is an organochlorine pesticide that has been used as an insecticide in agriculture and to combat insect vectors of diseases such as malaria and typhus. Because of its effectiveness at killing insects with few acute effects on humans, DDT had been a mainstay to fight malaria, a parasitic disease that is a growing health threat in Africa and other parts of the world. DDT should also be used in India, Brazil and Mexico, where 69% of all reported cases of malaria occur (Mosq Control Assoc, 1998). Malaria afflicts hundreds of millions of people and causes millions of human deaths each year. Swiss scientist Paul Muller was awarded the 1948 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for discovering (1939) DDT's insecticidal properties.

DDT kills mosquitoes. Malaria is transmitted to humans via mosquito bites. According to U.N. estimates, malaria kills one child every 30 seconds and more than a million people each year."

"Rachel Carson initiated the movement against the use of DDT in her 1962 book Silent Spring. Of course, by then, DDT had largely eliminated malaria in the United States. It is believed that DDT softens the shells of raptors and other egg laying species. It is thought that the birds are compromised by eating DDT poisoned insects. A ban on DDT, combined with passage of the Endangered Species Act, is thought to have restored raptor populations, particularly eagles. Some researchers dispute this contention. Regardless, DDT was banned in 1972 by the Environmental Protection Agency under Administrator William (Bill) Ruckelshaus. It is still used in some countries.

DDT is a pesticide used to control insects that carry dieases such as malaria. DDT is a white, crystalline solid with no odor or taste. Numerous studies indicate that DDT is not a carcinogenic hazard to humans. However, EPA lists DDT as a 'probable human carcinogen.' DDT affects the nervous system if swallowed in large amounts. Studies conclude that there are no serious effects in people under normal use. According to ATSDR, there are no studies on the health effects of children exposed to DDT. There is no evidence that DDT causes birth defects in people."

It's all politics...
2006-02-06 01:49:31 PM  
And great - my girlfriend is going to be in Australia for the next 5 months.

Flea powder when she gets back!
2006-02-06 01:54:06 PM  
I went to a convention in Philadelphia in January and was attacked by these bugs. I woke up in the morning with about two dozen bites up and down my arms. I was scared to death that I brought some home with me so I left my luggage outside and gave it a healty dose of raid while washing all my clothes. Not a fun experience at all.
2006-02-06 01:54:18 PM  
As long as we're bringing back DDT, let's just treat bed bug infestations using toxic waste from nuclear reactors! Sure it might make your hair fall out and give you cancer, but if it kills bugs, isn't it worth it?
2006-02-06 02:03:24 PM  
Clearly DDT laced with radium is the way to go.
2006-02-06 02:07:29 PM  
Better living through chemistry, is my motto!

/Please don't stare at my deformed child.
2006-02-06 02:12:01 PM  
One of the main problems in using DDT as a pesticide is the very real development of resistance in insect populations regularily exposed to the DDT. There are interesting pictures of cockroaches that have crystals of DDT exuding from their exoskeleton because they have eaten so much of it, but the cockroaches are still fine.

DDT is simply not a terribly effective pesticide anymore. What is needed to combat malaria is an effective insecticide that can be used to target areas that mosquito larvae typically develop in, such as ditches, temporary field pools and containers. Some of the bacterial products, such as Bti (Bacillus thurengiensis israelensis) and Bsp (Bacillus sphaericus) are quite effective if applied correctly, and safe for use in a variety of habitats. However, they are relatively expensive, and they are not broad-spectrum so they cannot be used on pests such as bed-bugs.

It is the increasingly sophisticated pest control products that specifically target individual species that have helped the recent resurgence in pests like bed-bugs worldwide (not just Australia and Europe are seeing this increase). Once upon a time, when a motel or hotel was sprayed for cockroaches, it was a broad-spectrum pesticide (such as DDT, or Dursban) that was used. When the cockroaches were controlled, so were all the other little critters that also happened to be around, like bed-bugs, fleas, larder beetles, clothes moths etc. etc. etc.

Now, highly effective bait stations control cockroach problems far more efficiently and with less cost than the old broad-spectrum sprays. But they don't have any collateral damage. Bed-bugs aren't drawn to cockroach bait, they're drawn to the sleeping bags of blood in the room!

Another problem in pest control is the increase in range of various disease vectors as climate change brings warmer temperatures to temperate areas. Malaria and dengue are already making inroads into the southern states. Malaria was a major detriment to colonization of the Ohio river valley in the 18th century before the little ice age drove those species south. How many people now live in the region? West Nile virus is just the tip of the iceberg.
2006-02-06 02:51:46 PM  
My husband travels internationally a lot. The morning after he came home last week, I woke up itching all over and was freaking out that he brought home bedbugs. We checked and didn't find any. I think I had a few itches and my mind started thinking of bedbugs, which just made me itch more. I don't think he's checked his hotel rooms for bedbugs in the past, but I think he will be doing it in the future.

Don't think you can only pick them up internationally. They're getting to be a problem in the U.S. Always check your hotel room when you arrive, before you do anything else. This bothers me much more than the body fluids on the bed spread.

Sweet Dreams!!
2006-02-06 03:16:25 PM
2006-02-06 03:23:56 PM  
TCSurvivor: My husband travels internationally a lot. The morning after he came home last week, I woke up itching all over and was freaking out that he brought home bedbugs. We checked and didn't find any.

Might be lice.
2006-02-06 03:24:36 PM  
They're becoming quite rampant at hostels in California. Auckland, NZ had them in about half the hostels according to a local pharmacist I was talking to and so they're probably even more widespread now.

I've been lucky: I've seen other people covered in bites but escaped unscathed myself. I was even in a room with someone else who got bitten, but I did not get bitten. I carry a big plastic bag that I put my backpack in, never set my clothes down on the floor and check around for the little bastards, pull my bed away from the wall if possible and finally, if I know they're around, slap on the DEET. I spray it around my bed too.

I also carry a silk sleeping bag liner to sleep in where bedding isn't provided and wash it between locations. Bugs don't like silk I'm told. Maybe that's working for me.
2006-02-06 03:28:14 PM  
If you want to know what the bites are like: they are like big red itchy mosquito bites--bigger and even blistering up if you are particularly sensitive. The bites tend to appear in a row. The bug bites in one spot and feeds for a while and then moves a little further on and feeds again. Mosquito bites are random.
2006-02-06 03:32:28 PM
2006-02-06 03:36:50 PM  

I am backpacking in Australia right now. Ive stayed at hostels and had absolutely no problems with the little critters...yet. Then again, I open up a can of Mortein on my bed when I first get there, much to the chagrin of the other people in the room. Bugger then I say, I am not spending my time here being sucked of my blood just because they don't like my bug spray.
2006-02-06 03:54:28 PM  
Actually, a lot of hotels in first world countries are being sued over bedbugs nowadays. There's a theory that the reason for the resurgance has something to do with people travelling everywhere and the change in insecticide used in hotels because of health problems. You just can't win. Yay for forensic entomology teaching me something I can use in everyday conversation, I guess.
2006-02-06 04:01:34 PM  
If the login didn't clue you in, I'm a pest control technician out of Syracuse N.Y. We have found that the fancier the hotel, or the more a person travels abroad the worse the bedbug problem. Syracuse doen't get anywhere the number of bedbug cases that larger cities gets, but they are on the rise. They like to hid in the folds of the mattress, the hollow spaces in bed frames, in cracks and crevices along base boards, picture frames, inside dressers. The like to hide in just about any dark tight space. They can move about 100 feet in search of a bloodmeal. Sleep Tight.
2006-02-06 04:05:53 PM  
I got bed bugs in Melbourne last year. They suck big time and the itch stays with you a while.
2006-02-06 04:06:01 PM  
I meant to say, They like to HIDE in the folds of mattresses
2006-02-06 04:27:32 PM  
no sheeeet IKillBugs?

I didn't want to stay at the HoJo this weekend just for the recent queasyness bedbug resurgence has caused me. My reasoning is they love to eat the shedding skin from peoples, especially if they don't bathe it's worse.

I went to the nicer hotel. And then it hit me, Euro travelers stay at these fancier places, and well, if you've ever smelled a European....

I'm going to order one of those silk bed liner things. I saw them on a show about bedbugs.

Ick. I hate any bed other than my own. Kept me from sleeping around.
2006-02-06 04:45:22 PM  
Yuckity yuck. I'm starting to itch in sympathy.

I am not sleeping again ever. Thanks for the pics!

The NY Times ran an article on this Nov 27th - sorry, can't link -but it said they were appearing everywhere - apts on Park Ave & Riverside Drive, the best hotels...

Bring back DDT. All is forgiven!

If I ever found a single bedbug (and you never find a single one) in my bed, I would throw away everything I own before I spent another night there.
2006-02-06 06:04:40 PM  
I've had friends get them in a hostel outside of Sydney.

So, yeah, not made up.
2006-02-06 06:32:54 PM  
The fit I would pitch in the lobby of any hotel that gave me the bedbugs would be Epic. Perhaps i would burn a embassy even.

I can stand a lot of things, but not the bugs in my bed.
2006-02-06 09:28:08 PM  
We have been dealing with a bedbug problem in my apt building on and off since July 05. The little bastards moved in on some trashed furniture the five guys in the one bedroom flat across the hall had picked up outside, and we got them when the landlords trashed the carpet - but left it in the hall for two days first, and didn't bag it when they removed it. Idiots. Seven months later we are apparently bug-free but cannot wait to move (after being treated about 10 times in the process).

We did get a lovely new bedframe and mattress out of it, but only after we had an infestation so bad we had to trash the old ones.

//didn't sleep a night through for two months straight
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