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(Evening Standard)   Muslims stage cartoon protest in London. Trouble erupts when Pepe LePeau fails to toe the company line   (thisislondon.co.uk) divider line 331
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2006-02-03 05:51:06 PM
Yup, can thank this last batch of ridiculous fundamentalism for finally overwhelming my sense of empathy. Here's to worsening your own situation and instilling racism in the hearts of millions. All in a days work.
/Death to Rationality
 
2006-02-03 05:51:47 PM
"Media organisations - including the BBC, Channel 4 and ITV - as well as several European newspapers showed the controversial drawings, some with defiant headlines. British newspapers have not published the images."

British newspapers are all pussies.
 
2006-02-03 05:53:10 PM
jerry2a

I actually meant in or outside a courthouse. I would like to know how that Bible is "in your face". You like many Farkers are a sucker for the wedge issue. No one is forcing you to follow their religious beliefs and there is no "war" against these beliefs or Christmas or whatever. This is a created wedge issue. When was the last time someone other than your mother or girlfriend forced you to go to church?
 
2006-02-03 05:53:37 PM
Several of the demonstrators chanted "Down, down UK" and "Down, down EU" as well as other anti-British slogans.

Geez, if you had them all rounded up in once place you should have rounded them up and made them happy by shipping them out of the UK and Europe.
 
2006-02-03 05:53:54 PM
JoeyJoJo: I plan on posting my cartoons mocking the holocaust. I'm sure no one will have a problem with that.

Umm, ok. Lemme know how many Jews threaten to behead you.
 
2006-02-03 05:54:04 PM
So...can we just kill all these nutjobs yet?
 
2006-02-03 05:54:05 PM
GoodScout: British newspapers are all pussies

Wait for the News of The World on Sunday!
 
2006-02-03 05:54:11 PM
GoodScout: British newspapers are all pussies.

I dunno...there are a LOT of Muslims in the UK. How many do you think there are in Denmark?

/I have no idea, guessing not many
 
2006-02-03 05:55:27 PM
CDN_Nrrd:

"The current stream of Islamic thinking seems to be: If I hit you hard enough and long enough, you'll believe in my imaginary friend."

Umm, nope that is the historical "stream" of thinking. It is how it spread when people didn't know any better or converted so as to avoid the beatings they got everytime they had to pay Jiyza.
 
2006-02-03 05:55:29 PM
No Such Agency
'I think I'll call it "The Aristocrats".'

Dude, that is good, very funny
 
2006-02-03 05:55:50 PM
DaSwankOne: I actually meant in or outside a courthouse. I would like to know how that Bible is "in your face". You like many Farkers are a sucker for the wedge issue. No one is forcing you to follow their religious beliefs and there is no "war" against these beliefs or Christmas or whatever. This is a created wedge issue. When was the last time someone other than your mother or girlfriend forced you to go to church?

You're right. As long as we have a copy of the Koran, and a Torah, and some atheist manifestos right there with the Bible I'm fine with it. But if you're not trying to impress your religion by putting it there, then what exactly does having the Bible there accomplish?
 
2006-02-03 05:55:59 PM
A great deal of these nuts can't read, you know. They just believe what they're told. Most of them haven't ever read the Koran.
 
2006-02-03 05:57:16 PM
I've come to the conclusion that everybody in the goddam world needs to start smoking a lot more pot. I'm freakin serious.

everybody chill the hell out.
 
2006-02-03 05:58:14 PM
Yup, can thank this last batch of ridiculous fundamentalism for finally overwhelming my sense of empathy. Here's to worsening your own situation and instilling racism in the hearts of millions. All in a days work.

Bingo. I am now 100% sure that this world would be a better place if every Muslim were rounded up and shot into the ocean.

//are there are Nazi SS left alive? I hear they run a great death camp!
 
2006-02-03 05:58:22 PM
jerry2a: This is a created wedge issue. When was the last time someone other than your mother or girlfriend forced you to go to church?

By the way...when's the last time someone forced you NOT to celebrate Christmas? It works both ways.
 
2006-02-03 05:58:33 PM
boobsrgood
It's tow the line, not toe. Muslim spelling?

Wrong.
 
2006-02-03 05:59:09 PM
DaSwankOne: I am so glad that atheist never over react to anything like filing lawsuits because they are offended that a Bible is outside a church.

How many have threatened to behead you over the issue?
 
2006-02-03 05:59:19 PM
jerry2a
. Seriously though - how the hell did any of these people make it out of grade school?


Many of them didn't. Most of the woman didn't.
 
2006-02-03 05:59:19 PM
SOMETHING has to give, somewhere. Either these people will calm down once they've tired themselves out, or we'll have WW3. Right now I'd like to see even MORE newspapers publish these toons, just to get it all over with. Does that seem crazy?
 
2006-02-03 06:00:55 PM
One last post. There ARE some reasonable Muslim leaders out there:

In Iraq, the leading Shiite cleric denounced the drawings first published in a Danish newspaper in September, one of which depicted the prophet wearing a turban shaped as a bomb. But the cleric also suggested militant Muslims were partly to blame for distorting the image of Islam.
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But in remarks posted on his Web site, al-Sistani referred to "misguided and oppressive" segments of the Muslim community whose actions "projected a distorted and dark image of the faith of justice, love and brotherhood."
 
2006-02-03 06:02:05 PM
Sloth_DC
Umm, ok. Lemme know how many Jews threaten to behead you.

So you're saying every single Jew in the world wouldn't have a problem with it and I wouldn't get any death threats? What world do you live in? Or is it just 'death by beheading' that you're talking about?

Fundies exist in every religion.
 
2006-02-03 06:02:22 PM
improvious
SOMETHING has to give, somewhere. Either these people will calm down once they've tired themselves out, or we'll have WW3. Right now I'd like to see even MORE newspapers publish these toons, just to get it all over with. Does that seem crazy?

Not at all. These people are hellbent on ridding the world of the "infidels." I dare them to f'n try. There are very, very few things I would fight for, but I would jump at the chance to rid the world of fundamentalist muslims.
 
2006-02-03 06:02:41 PM
img522.imageshack.us

Get over yourself, islam.
 
2006-02-03 06:02:55 PM
DaSwankOne
You don't need religion to be a fanatical nut job.

But it sure helps!
 
2006-02-03 06:03:31 PM
And apparently I don't pay enough attention to notice that Priapulid addressed the "Toe the Line" critique about a half hour ago.
 
2006-02-03 06:03:41 PM
jerry2a But if you're not trying to impress your religion by putting it there, then what exactly does having the Bible there accomplish?

In the Houston case it was a monument dedicated to a deeply religious man who started a homeless shelter.

I am sorry, but I see no difference between Muslims that are intolerant of a cartoon and atheist that are intolerant of an inanimate Bible. If the judge sentenced you to go to church there would be a problem, but a Bible outside of a court house should not "offend" anyone if it does they are thin skinned and the kind of sucker for wedge issues. These wedge issues keep us from addressing the real issues we should have already solved.
 
2006-02-03 06:03:47 PM
I'm getting a kick out of all these replies.

No, really I am. It seems that precious few of you know what the Hegelian Dialectic is, or how it is applied to masses of unwitting people all over the world. It is the modern ruler's most indispensible tool.

Think about it:

The cartoons in question simulataneously appear in the main Establishment newspapers, with results that even the most uneducated yob could predict: thousands of indignant Muslims in the streets. This serves to make non-Muslims nervous and more succeptible to further draconian "anti-terrorist" laws. It is a spiral of action and reaction that prods masses of people toward more conflict, more war, and therefore, a greater centralization of power as people seek protection from "their" governments.

From the point of view of those in the street, these events seem chaotic, but from the social engineer's perspective it runs like a clock. Go ahead and Google it: Hegelian Dialectic. Or if you prefer, "Applied Satanism."
 
2006-02-03 06:03:50 PM
JoeyJoJo: So you're saying every single Jew in the world wouldn't have a problem with it and I wouldn't get any death threats? What world do you live in? Or is it just 'death by beheading' that you're talking about?

The Mossad doesn't threaten you...they just take you out.
 
2006-02-03 06:04:14 PM
CNN has chosen to not show the cartoons out of respect for Islam.

^^Jab at Al Jezeera (sp?)
 
2006-02-03 06:04:27 PM
It is time for the western world to wake up and kick out each and every one of these parasites. They don't belong here and can't live like us.


supportdenmark.com
 
2006-02-03 06:04:28 PM
soy_bomb
WOW! Biatchy...

What that poor lady doesn't understand is that if Europe's Muslims keep this shiat up, the "Real Holocaust" will be right around the corner.

Only it'll be the Muslims going to the ovens, not vice-versa.

/not looking forward to it, just paying attention to 20th Century European history.
 
2006-02-03 06:04:45 PM
JoeyJoJo
So you're saying every single Jew in the world wouldn't have a problem with it and I wouldn't get any death threats? What world do you live in? Or is it just 'death by beheading' that you're talking about?

Fundies exist in every religion.


People make fun of religion ALL THE TIME in this country. There has never been a large segment of Jews, Christians, etc. who wanted to KILL those who offend them.
 
2006-02-03 06:06:35 PM
JoeyJoJo: I plan on posting my cartoons mocking the holocaust. I'm sure no one will have a problem with that.

Go nuts.
 
2006-02-03 06:08:24 PM
DaSwankOne
I am sorry, but I see no difference between Muslims that are intolerant of a cartoon and atheist that are intolerant of an inanimate Bible.

Maybe this helps:
intolerant Muslim: "I'm going to kill you!"
intolerant atheist: "I'm going to sue you!"
 
2006-02-03 06:08:36 PM
What's amazing is that the same people here who would defend a picture of Christ pelted with elephant dung, or a crucifix dipped in a jar of urine as free speech are the SAME ONES who cry "hate" and "discrimination" when somebody creates an image of Mohammed with a bomb in his turban.

Face it, Islam is mired in the middle ages, and unlike Christianity and Judiasm, has failed to reform into a tolerant, peaceful religion. Whereas mainstream Christians and Jews repudiate violence and intolerance, it's hard to argue that mainstream Islam does the same, with riots, terrorism and a mysogynistic, xenophobic culture that seems steeped in ritual death.

That is criticism, not hate.

If I was to state that on the streets of Mecca or Gaza (or scarier, in some parts of Europe), I'd be lucky to escape with my life.

If I stated that Catholicism was the evilist of religions, the very spawn of Satan while standing before the Pope himself in the Vatican, I might get a vocal rebuke, or a thoughtful reply.

I certainly would not fear for my life.

Moral equivalency is the argument of the close minded, especially in this case of apples and oranges.
 
2006-02-03 06:08:58 PM
DaSwankOne: I am sorry, but I see no difference between Muslims that are intolerant of a cartoon and atheist that are intolerant of an inanimate Bible. If the judge sentenced you to go to church there would be a problem, but a Bible outside of a court house should not "offend" anyone if it does they are thin skinned and the kind of sucker for wedge issues. These wedge issues keep us from addressing the real issues we should have already solved.

I agree, as long as you agree that it's a wedge issue for Christians as well. My thinking is that I'm not stopping you from going to Church, and you can bring your own Bible to the courthouse if you like. And again - would you be OK with someone putting the Koran or the Torah outside of the courthouse as well?
 
2006-02-03 06:10:46 PM
JoeyJoJo: So you're saying every single Jew in the world wouldn't have a problem with it and I wouldn't get any death threats? What world do you live in? Or is it just 'death by beheading' that you're talking about?

Fundies exist in every religion.


Yes, fundies exist in every religion. However, let me know how many death threats you get from Jews as a percentage of the total population for your Holocaust mockery, and we'll compare that to the number of death threats coming from Muslims as a percentage of their total population. Sound fair?
 
2006-02-03 06:11:07 PM
LesserEvil
What's amazing is that the same people here who would defend a picture of Christ pelted with elephant dung, or a crucifix dipped in a jar of urine as free speech are the SAME ONES who cry "hate" and "discrimination" when somebody creates an image of Mohammed with a bomb in his turban.

Congratulations, you win the "stupidest post on this thread" award.
 
2006-02-03 06:12:16 PM
improvius

Maybe this helps:
intolerant Muslim: "I'm going to kill you!"
intolerant atheist: "I'm going to sue you!"


Maybe the society has more to do with the reaction than the religion. Maybe this will help:
American Thief : go to jail
Saudi Thief : cut off you hand
 
2006-02-03 06:12:25 PM
static.flickr.com
 
2006-02-03 06:12:45 PM
LesserEvil: If I was to state that on the streets of Mecca or Gaza (or scarier, in some parts of Europe), I'd be lucky to escape with my life.

I'm English and would feel totally safe stating that at Speakers Corner (right next to the muslim preaching Jihad)
 
2006-02-03 06:12:57 PM
DaSwankOne: a Bible outside of a court house should not "offend" anyone

Unless you are prepared to put up monuments to all 9 billion religions outside each and every courthouse, then no religious icons belong outside any of them. It's really that simple.
 
2006-02-03 06:15:03 PM
misanthropologist

still bummed that my link to a story about extremist Xtians in Guatemala murdering people they believe to be sinners wasn't greenlit.

You must be new here. Christians never hate, and when they do, they never kill people, but when they do, it's never because of their religion, but when it is, it's because the guy is insane, and really isn't a Christian.

Also, for reference, here's how it goes on Fark:

Criticism of Islam = green light
Criticism of Christiantiy = red light

Saying Muslims are terrorists = OK
Saying Christians are terrorists = NOT OK

Calling for death to Muslims/Islam = OH YEA!! GLASS PARKING LOT!!!
Calling for death to Christians = banninnation
 
2006-02-03 06:15:30 PM
jerry2aI agree, as long as you agree that it's a wedge issue for Christians as well. My thinking is that I'm not stopping you from going to Church, and you can bring your own Bible to the courthouse if you like. And again - would you be OK with someone putting the Koran or the Torah outside of the courthouse as well?

I knew two Half-Jews could see eye-to-eye. Agreed.
 
2006-02-03 06:17:00 PM
Fark needs a 'muslim Bevets.'
Hell, maybe SteveB. will take the job himself since he's just a troll anyway...
 
2006-02-03 06:17:19 PM
Muta
I doubt a skunk would be sexually attracted to a black cat even if it had a white stripe down it's back.

Actually, Pepe Le Pew's behavior is not that far removed from real skunks. Skunks, like most members of the weasel family, are notoriously violent critters. The females are just as aggressive as the males, so the males end up basically having to rape their partners to perpetuate the species. It's not too big a stretch to imagine some horn-dog skunk going after a female animal about the same size and shape as his normal partners.
 
2006-02-03 06:18:03 PM
They're all crazy. I say put a bomb on top of that big stone thing in Mecca and tell bin Laden he has 48 hours to turn himself in or the city goes bye-bye. I'm glad someone else caught the Grateful Dead allusion.
 
2006-02-03 06:18:24 PM
DaSwankOne-
Then you're not really good at understanding things, are you?

Muslims: threaten violence because they can't deal with a paper hundreds of miles away posting a caricature of a human being.

Atheists: dislike having themselves and their children forced into a particular way of thought and action by the government.

Do you honestly not see any difference here?
 
2006-02-03 06:18:26 PM
Free speech vs Hate speech people, think about it.

The only difference between the two is a matter of perspective.
 
2006-02-03 06:18:37 PM
stiletto_the_wise: Criticism of Christiantiy = red light

Damn, I totally missed all those ID/Catholic molestation/Pope is a nazi/Fred Phillps (or whatever that asshats name is) threads that were "redlighted"
 
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