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(Nerve)   New installment of Corporate Mofo's column on Nerve. This week: The Secret Origins of Goths (story SFW, site NFSW)   (nerve.com) divider line 41
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2006-01-31 03:36:41 AM
Interesting indeed.
 
2006-01-31 03:43:51 AM
Damn you SurfControl, damn you...
 
2006-01-31 03:54:35 AM
Want to know the origin of those little (not so little anymore) GlamGothlets.

Its really easy.

It was a dress.

www.figmentfly.com

And evil looks better than good!
 
2006-01-31 03:54:49 AM
Ok, it is his fault, but nobody really blamed him for it. Hes still cool and he even apologized anyway.
img500.imageshack.us
/drtfa
 
2006-01-31 04:07:31 AM
who cares?


goth's smell.
 
2006-01-31 04:07:36 AM
And he did save us from evil mecha-streisand!
 
2006-01-31 04:16:05 AM
I am very suave and hip...beware my mighty power!

www.nerve.com
 
amo [TotalFark]
2006-01-31 04:23:51 AM
tarvuz: I thought that pic said something more along the lines of (cue demonic voice) "I own your soul!"
 
2006-01-31 04:37:07 AM
So I'm assuming that the Blog-a-Log isn't safe for work? I mean, the Queen of England...In a bikini...Pretty hot.
 
2006-01-31 04:38:33 AM
Shadow Blasko: And evil looks better than good!


Oh man, it was so not even close!
 
2006-01-31 04:44:07 AM
hmmm.


no. they still smell.

www.smelly-cat.org
 
2006-01-31 04:59:50 AM
www.awtrey.com
/obscure?
 
2006-01-31 05:49:56 AM
Maybe I'm just too lazy, but I coudn't find anything NSFW on that site.

/Also couldn't read that long boring article
//at least not at this time of night
 
2006-01-31 06:10:32 AM
From TFA: "Ken Mondschein is a Ph.D candidate at Fordham University..."

Translation: "Ken Mondschein is not a Ph.D"
 
2006-01-31 07:08:01 AM
SuperCatBarf: Corporate Assface still matters? Hey everone! Let's agree how super-awesome beer is and think about Vida Guerra while we beat off!


I apologize for the urine found in your breakfast cereal this morn.
 
2006-01-31 07:13:29 AM
tarvuz: I thought that pic said something more along the lines of (cue demonic voice) "I own your soul!"

I thought that read cute demonic voice for a second. :)
 
2006-01-31 07:14:11 AM
FritzZwicky: YET.
 
2006-01-31 08:02:21 AM
Fatoid: Mary Shelley had contracted syphillis from her "lover", which was a major contributing factor in her breakdown. It was also not aided by the fact that for all practical purposes, the entire Byron group was into "the lifestyle", which Mary Shelley ultimately found repugnant, and her participations in which wreaked havoc with her conscience. Frankenstein, written out of a bet to see who could come up with the scariest story, was highly influenced not just by that awful, dreary "summer" during the 'little ice age', but also by the monsters of her own personal demons, coming forth from her wracked conscience.
Another goth favorite, "Dracula", was inspired more by the rampant spread of syph throughout the "sexually free" public of pre-Victorian England than anything else. Yes, vampires = VD. Think about it.

(Now I'm not saying that aversion to sex is an answer or anything, just that the Victorian reaction to the problems generated by the VD pandemic of the time was sort of the pendulum going to the opposite extreme.)

So what I am saying here, is that Goth culture is directly inspired not so much by individuals, but by the negative consequences of their actions. Their depresion feeds on itself; they create their own misery, after being "inspired" by someone elses'.

/Flame on!
 
2006-01-31 08:04:03 AM
The steppes of what is now Russia?
 
2006-01-31 08:12:27 AM
that was about as stimulating as that book about heraldry i tried reading last night.

*yawn*
 
2006-01-31 08:29:22 AM
Gotta agree here. I'm an insomniac and I couldnt sit there long enough to skim through it.
 
2006-01-31 08:36:19 AM
I might have enjoyed that article if I could've gotten rid of the ad in the middle of the page.
 
2006-01-31 08:40:47 AM
puh...conformists
 
2006-01-31 08:45:46 AM
Never met a goth who smelled. Maybe you're confusing them with hippies?
 
2006-01-31 08:52:35 AM
c7hu1hu fh746n: Never met a goth who smelled. Maybe you're confusing them with hippies?

Well, a fair amount smell like smoke but other then that- yeah agreed. If anything ones I knew preened to much.
 
2006-01-31 08:55:39 AM
Rev. Skarekroe
Try Firefox and then install the plug-in flashblock.
 
2006-01-31 09:10:41 AM
That reads as accurate as a prep writing about punk rock. There are "Goths" and there are goths. Most of them are clotheshorses and wannabees, but folks with no understanding of the greater subculture have no clue whatsoever. Hence all the dumb-as-all-hell newspaper articles regarding 'goths' following Columbine. No, they were not, they were just random, mentally-disturbed assholes of the suburban variety.
 
rp.
2006-01-31 09:43:05 AM
NFSW

Damn, and here I am at safe work.
 
2006-01-31 09:57:24 AM
thespindrifter
Another goth favorite, "Dracula", was inspired more by the rampant spread of syph throughout the "sexually free" public of pre-Victorian England than anything else. Yes, vampires = VD. Think about it.
So what I am saying here, is that Goth culture is directly inspired not so much by individuals, but by the negative consequences of their actions. Their depresion feeds on itself; they create their own misery, after being "inspired" by someone elses'.


Nice troll but highly incorrect. But if it makes you feel better about yourself keep thinking it.

Dracula was NOT about VD. Stoker was inspired by reading about various historical and folk myths about Vlad Tepesh and vampire lore in eastern Europe.

Goth culture is not about "guilt for your actions". Most real goths I know are rather happy well adjusted people who just choose to live outside the bland norms of society.
Most of the frustration comes from dealing with people like you on a daily basis.
 
2006-01-31 09:57:47 AM
Most of them are clotheshorses and wannabees, but folks with no understanding of the greater subculture have no clue whatsoever.

I think that holds true with most subcultures: you have the actual membership, and you have the "identity shoppers" who are just passing through.
 
2006-01-31 10:00:01 AM
Tampa is way more goth than Orlando.
 
2006-01-31 10:17:02 AM
People are people.


Except for bike couriers. ;)

(oops, did I say that?)
 
2006-01-31 10:23:27 AM
FritzZwicky - Perhaps he's not a Ph.D, but he's definitely Ph.D-ish. You might say that he's a Ph.D-ishist!

/r dr r
 
2006-01-31 10:34:52 AM
Hey Ken-

This may be a bit banal, but good stuff. I've always enjoyed your work, keep it up.
 
2006-01-31 10:36:41 AM
Goths aren't depressed. They fark alot and do alotta drugs.
Well I guess they get depressed when they run out of sex and drugs.

I just get mad, So I must be Industrial
 
2006-01-31 10:54:53 AM
www.history.emory.edu

Oh, wait... not this sort of Goth...
 
2006-01-31 12:04:12 PM
Where is that Pict of that Goth Kid saying something about how Goth he is involving Bats?

I need a good laugh today, someone post it.
 
2006-01-31 01:30:56 PM
Goths = white kids in search of a culture.
 
2006-01-31 04:46:54 PM
Less poetic souls might see Byron and Shelley as spoiled, irresponsible young aristocrats who wanted others to love them as much as they loved themselves.

I always wondered what kind of soul I was... now I know: I'm 'less poetic'.
 
2006-02-01 07:35:36 AM
Terry Pratchett calls Goths "Necro-Nerds" (dunno if he coined the term though)
 
2006-02-01 04:59:40 PM
Some goths are cool.

www.dieselsweeties.com

Well okay... some fictional goths are cool.
 
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