If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(CNN)   Roe vs. Wade celebrates 33 years of being the only thing that matters when confirming Supreme Court justices   (cnn.com) divider line 615
    More: Stupid  
•       •       •

4120 clicks; posted to Main » on 23 Jan 2006 at 11:22 AM (8 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



615 Comments   (+0 »)
   

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | » | Last | Show all
 
2006-01-23 01:24:33 AM
This is more accurate than the flamebait that someone posted down lower. It's sad that this *is* the biggest thing on the supreme court's plate. Sad for many reasons...
 
2006-01-23 01:29:37 AM
Thanks. My dad and I make snarky comments about it being such every time a new set of hearings happens.

/submitter
 
2006-01-23 10:47:10 AM
robsul82: Thanks. My dad and I make snarky comments about it being such every time a new set of hearings happens.

/submitter


One greenlight in four years? You haven't been trying very hard... or you're just unlucky.
 
2006-01-23 10:53:02 AM
Some people want abortion to be outlawed even if the mother's life is at risk. If that happened, we'd join a prestigious group of countries: El Salvador, Vanuatu, Vatican City, and Chile.

Here's an interesting link (pops) regarding abortion laws around the world.
 
2006-01-23 10:53:40 AM
The worst part about all the focus on Roe v Wade is that it is such a horribly crafted decision, and yet we seem to be stuck with a never ending battle over it.
 
2006-01-23 11:08:19 AM
What gets me is all the asshats who think, somehow, abortion will be instantly outlawed the minute Roe v. Wade is overturned.

Even Reuters insisted on stupid headlines like "Dems fear Alito will ban abortion" ... WTF?

States would be free to decide for themselves. I don't think either extremist side has the votes to do anything on the national level, and only a few states would go polar, I should think.

A majority of the United States looks at the main combatants in the Abortion issue and thinks, "what a bunch of idiots". There **IS** a middle of the road, people don't have to like abortion in order to allow it to happen. The extremists would have us believe we must all be 100% for or against the practice - and anybody who's not is their sworn enemy.

/Wonders whatever happened to common sense
 
2006-01-23 11:11:55 AM
Abortion is such a complicated issue, I really hate talking about it. I was about to make a post saying that I'm mildly pro-choice, and wouldn't be that upset of Roe vs. Wade was overturned. The post would also say it'd be okay if it were left up to the states, and if third (or maybe even second) trimester abortions were outlawed.

But then I got to thinking...

What if Alaska outlaws all abortions (except life of the mother and all that)? If you get pregnant and don't want the baby, you'd have to make a journey of at least 500 miles to get rid of it.

Same goes for, say, poor people living deep inside any state that outlaws abortions. No car, no money for a train/taxi.

And regarding second & third trimester abortions... while a few months should be enough for you to decide whether or not you want to abort the pregnancy or not, what if you plan on keeping it but the husband/boyfriend/baby daddy walks out on you... and it's too late?

Adoption is always an option, but labor and all that jazz is no picnic. I think it'd be funny (in an ironic kind of way) to see adoption centers fill up with so many black kids that when Mr. and Mrs. White Trash (who supported the outlawing of abortion) go to adopt a kid, they're forced to choose nothing or a *gasp* "negro" boy.

So, I dunno. Hard decision. I think it's murder, personally, but the difference between "real murder" and abortion is that nobody will really miss the aborted child, since it didn't have any loving friends or family. So the Libertarian in me says it's a privacy issue. After all, I'm against drug use and prostitution, but think they should be legal.

Maybe some restrictions such as outlawing partial birth abortion, maybe requiring parental notification for minors, and maybe enforcing a 24 hour waiting period to reduce spur-of-the-moment decisions would be a decent option.

Anyway, I'm skeptical that Roe vs. Wade will ever be overturned anyway because once it's out of the way... Republicans on the national level will have lost an enormous wedge issue.
 
2006-01-23 11:13:43 AM
LesserEvil: States would be free to decide for themselves.

Alito would not be able to outlaw abortion in himself.

And while it could theoretically go to the states... the Republicans in control would be more than happy to draw up a federal law or constitutional amendment outlawing abortion. Look what they tried to do with things like flag burning (it's free speech, no matter how offensive it is) and gay marriage.
 
2006-01-23 11:25:26 AM
The real issue to be considered is his standing on Honk Bag.
 
2006-01-23 11:27:59 AM
Since I'm a guy and I never want kids, I don't really care what a woman does to her body. I still believe it is murder though, I just don't care.
 
2006-01-23 11:29:54 AM
Kudos on the headline, robsul82! Only Roe v Wade headline that's actually been funny!
 
2006-01-23 11:30:48 AM
Great headline, complex and tiresome issue.
 
2006-01-23 11:31:01 AM
Republicans don't want to ban abortion. Then they'd lose it as a campaign issue.
 
2006-01-23 11:31:02 AM
I think there are still too many people that think that if Roe gets overturned it means abortion will be illegal on a federal level, which of course isn't the case.

Somehow, the whole thing's gone from a "should it be state law or federal law" to whether or not abortion is morally or ethically 'allowed'.

Now, when someone puts forth legislation banning abortion on a federal level, THEN we can all freak out and go torch some cars or some shiat.
 
2006-01-23 11:31:12 AM
sadly, that headline is disappointingly true.
 
2006-01-23 11:31:34 AM
Abortions are...

Delicious!

/Wants it on a T shirt
 
2006-01-23 11:31:53 AM
How to solve all problems:

HOLD YOURSELF RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL YOUR OWN ACTIONS
 
2006-01-23 11:31:55 AM
I'm all for ending human-initiated abortion--as soon as we have a safe, inexpensive, reliable, readily-available, over-the-counter, reversible method of contraception available.

End abortion! Support birth control research!
 
2006-01-23 11:32:21 AM
elchip I agree with you that abortion is such a complicated issue and it can push people's buttons in so many ways. With abortion there is no gray, its "you're for it" or "you're against it" period. And thats just plain stupid. Some cases might call for an abortion, what some anti-abortionsist dont realize is that by forcing the woman to give birth, there not gauranteeing that the woman keeps the baby. The baby might end up in a foster home (which we all know is poorly managed) or the child will grow up with many abuses.
 
2006-01-23 11:32:23 AM
If you want abortion over turned you need to come with a plan on how you are going to handle unwanted pregnancies, like clinics where mothers can go and have a child anonymously and put it up for adoption.

You people just bash the law but you dont propose some type of agenda to fix itsound familiar?
 
2006-01-23 11:32:33 AM
bkennedy

There is an "Abortions tickle." shirt. :)

http://www.tshirthell.com/whores_killer.htm

NSFW probably.
 
2006-01-23 11:32:35 AM
bkennedy: Abortions are...

Delicious!

/Wants it on a T shirt


Iron this on in the meantime.

cec.wustl.edu
 
2006-01-23 11:32:43 AM
Republicans would like nothing more than a woman's body to be controlled exclusively by and angry white man.

They want the government off your back, but yet they want it deep down in your pants.
 
2006-01-23 11:34:09 AM
"LesserEvil: States would be free to decide for themselves."

Okay but how is that right for the 18 year old college student living in Alabama? It isn't right that she has nowhere to go even though there are doctors in her area that could and would perform an abortion for her. Instead she has to somehow, magically, obtain 1000 or more dollars to fly or drive to California, NY, or some other all-too-distant location, find a doctor, become a patient (requires more than a couple exams), and lodging for at least a week or two.

It is something that should be up to individuals, not communities.
 
2006-01-23 11:34:45 AM
What's so great about babies anyway? And why should they have any rights when they haven't done anything yet?
 
2006-01-23 11:34:50 AM
Roe vs. Wade celebrates 33 years of being the only thing that matters when confirming Supreme Court justices and electing any politician in Virginia.
 
2006-01-23 11:35:06 AM
I'd like to congratulate Drew on his record page views this quarter.

My opinion: Abortion, prostitution and drugs should be legal so they're safe. If you make things illegal, it doesn't stop people from doing them, it just removes the safeguards.

For you folks who think it's murder: Find ways to prevent them from happening, like sex ed, contraceptives, or mandatory neo-natal sterilization.

Case in point: I knew someone who told me she'd never have an abortion. Ever. Then she got knocked up and was going to go across state lines to get one until she got kicked in the stomach during a soccer game and lost the pregnancy.

The only thing that would have changed if abortion had been illegal was her boyfriend would be out $1.50 for a coat hanger instead of $300 for a surgical procedure.

It's not about choice for me, it's about safety.
 
2006-01-23 11:35:10 AM
jessica_the_attentionwhore: With abortion there is no gray, its "you're for it" or "you're against it" period.

Yeah. I remember during the 2004 debates, John Kerry gave an opinion that basically watered down to "I'm personally against abortion, but I don't let my personal beliefs dictate what should be a personal choice." And Bush's comeback was basically: "Heh... I'm still trying to figure out what that meant."

I can see how people see it as a black-and-white issue, but I think it's more gray than just about anything out there.
 
2006-01-23 11:35:41 AM
moops: Republicans would like nothing more than a woman's body to be controlled exclusively by and angry white man.

They want the government off your back, but yet they want it deep down in your pants.


Republicans: "Do whatever the fark you want with your money, but give us control of your lives. What you do with your body, who you sleep with, what you talk about on your cell phone, etc"

Democrats: "Do whatever the fark you want with your lives, but give us control of your finances so that we can make sure the poor people get some too"
 
2006-01-23 11:35:59 AM
Anybody else wish Teddy Kennedy would go out on a date and get so drunk he forgot how to swim.

Honestly, Roe has been affirmed by the high court 33 times. It has far too much precedence to overturn, and any judge good enough for the Supreme Court would have to take Stare Decisis into account.
 
2006-01-23 11:36:08 AM
Oh, and for the leaders of the Republican party, this isn't about killing babies. It's about making sure lots of poor people are born so the cost of labor goes down.

Prove me wrong.
 
2006-01-23 11:36:12 AM
If the "Right to Life" crowd would recognize the fact that practical sex ed, access to birth control, common sense, etc. would probably prevent a good number of unwanted pregnancies, and diminish the number of abortions, they would have a *bit* more credibility in my book.

/my .02
 
2006-01-23 11:36:47 AM
I think abortion is wrong but I don't think it should be outlawed. I also think if your 14 and want an abortion they should notify the parents. They won't give a 14 year old a tatoo but an abortion is alright without parents consent. Thats really the only fight I don't get from the Pro-Choicers.
 
2006-01-23 11:36:58 AM
If this ruling has proven anything it's the multi-usefulness of wire coat hangers. It's like the new duct tape.
 
2006-01-23 11:37:08 AM
I don't support abortions except in the most extreme case (moms life in danger) and i'm not against them.

However, how is it a murder to stop someone from being born? When an egg is fertilized is removing that murder?

By the logic of abortion (stopping someone from being born) = murder then having sex while using contraceptives is murder as well.

Actually abstaining from having sex is murder as well then. Lets hump as much as possible and impregnate as many women so that no baby is left unborn!
 
2006-01-23 11:37:11 AM
Frankly I think the Democrats should just call the Republicans' bluff on this one. You want to outlaw abortion? Fine, go for it. You'll all be gone within two election cycles when people finally see once and for all just how crazy you really are.

The biggest nightmare for the Republican party is for them to win on this issue. Of course they'd never succeed in prevailing on a national level, but there are parts of the country where repressive anti-abortion laws would survive. When the rest of the country sees what a bunch of nuts are in charge of the GOP, they'll vote for Democrats in massive numbers all over the country and on the national in response. This will be followed by a thousand years of peace and stability under the guardianship of the Jedi Council.

OK, I made up that last one.
 
2006-01-23 11:37:14 AM
elchip: the Republicans in control would be more than happy to draw up a federal law or constitutional amendment outlawing abortion

They don't need Alito for a constitutional amendment. They probably monitor polls about this constantly... if they could get it passed, they would have tried it already.
 
2006-01-23 11:37:24 AM
Headso politicains would be to scared to suggest any solutions in fear that it would end their politcal career. Abortion is a "yes" or a "no" issue and thats the problem. If any politician dared to come up with a solution the'll be under extereme pressure from all ends to abandon it.

SOme people just dont get it that after the woman gives birth what happens to the child? Abused? Neglected? Foster home after foster home? Turn into criminals?
 
2006-01-23 11:37:52 AM
Croliss: Honestly, Roe has been affirmed by the high court 33 times. It has far too much precedence to overturn, and any judge good enough for the Supreme Court would have to take Stare Decisis into account.

With the bullshiat and bending of the rules these guys push through, I think TK is right on track.
 
2006-01-23 11:38:09 AM
Contrabulous Flabtraption: HOLD YOURSELF RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL YOUR OWN ACTIONS


yeah, what was that biatch thinking, wearing a skirt to that bar and attracting the eye of that rapist. What a whore.

\sorry, had to bring out the obvious retaliation to that statement
 
2006-01-23 11:38:11 AM
Nucular Flame War in 3... 2... 1...

www.radgraphics.net
 
2006-01-23 11:38:47 AM
Gotta luv the abortion debate.

If you are too stupid to figure out birth control, get yourself fixed!!

Take pill, use condom.

Abortion is one of the worst things to do to your body if you ever want to have kids. If you dont want kids, get your damn tubes tied. Dont want to pay child support? Get your stupid ass snipped.

This shouldn't even be an issue. It's like wanting safety nets on every street cause you don't realize climbing on top of buildings is dangerous.
 
2006-01-23 11:38:53 AM
2006-01-23 11:35:41 AM Jack31081

Republicans: "Do whatever the fark you want with your money, but give us control of your lives. What you do with your body, who you sleep with, what you talk about on your cell phone, etc"

Democrats: "Do whatever the fark you want with your lives, but give us control of your finances so that we can make sure the poor people get some too"


Neither one of those statements are true anymore.
 
2006-01-23 11:39:31 AM
Republicans would like nothing more than a woman's body to be controlled exclusively by and angry white man.

Yep, that's my number one agenda. I have it on a bumper sticker. Couldn't give a rat's ass about the child. If I'm not angrily controlling a woman's body, I'm killing off black babies m'self.
 
2006-01-23 11:39:43 AM
ScottMpls: If the "Right to Life" crowd would recognize the fact that practical sex ed, access to birth control, common sense, etc. would probably prevent a good number of unwanted pregnancies, and diminish the number of abortions, they would have a *bit* more credibility in my book.

/my .02


Oh, that too. Any laws that would outlaw abortion MUST be coupled with something other than the ridiculous abstinence-only crap.

Croliss: Honestly, Roe has been affirmed by the high court 33 times. It has far too much precedence to overturn, and any judge good enough for the Supreme Court would have to take Stare Decisis into account.

I admit to not being a constitutional law expert, but in seeing a few decisions (usually the "sole dissenter" ones) made by Roberts and Alito I just think to myself How the HELL can you believe that and serve on the federal bench?

Maybe I'm biased by my own opinions when looking at these cases, but I always try my best to give everything a fair hand...
 
2006-01-23 11:40:00 AM
To echo what has been said; the republicans can't afford to lose such an issue as abortion. They still have the whole perceiveds religious persecution and turrrrism issue. When Marx said religion was the opiate of the masses, this is what he meant. People don't realize their freedoms are robbed because they are blinded by non-issues like 10 commandments removed from court houses, and crap science like intelligent design. Public schools are already doing a horribl job educating our kids, we don't need perceived religious persecution to further obfuscate the crap that goes on in gov't.
 
2006-01-23 11:40:06 AM
Those who say it would be up to the state's to decide are either naive or dishonest. Certain things damn well should be left up to the states, like medical marijuana, or for that matter, the criminilization of marijuana itself. Does that keep the feds from poking their snout in? Hell no.

Furthermore, I live in a state that is, as I like to say, autoerotically asphyxiating itself with the bible belt. Do I don't think that the state, any state, should be allowed to abrogate the right to make an intensely personal decision based on the religious belief that an angel comes down from heaven and delivers a soul to an egg the moment a sperm swims inside it.

And what do you think the chest-thumping, pandering, politicians who bans your right to abortion will do when he knocks his mistress up? He'll fly her to France and get it taken care of.
 
2006-01-23 11:40:10 AM
ChuckRoddy

Dont want to pay child support? Get your stupid ass snipped.

Buttsecks??
 
2006-01-23 11:40:15 AM
dgarg: Actually abstaining from having sex is murder as well then. Lets hump as much as possible and impregnate as many women so that no baby is left unborn!


No Baby Left Unborn
would be a great title for some kind of act or law.

\or a band name
 
2006-01-23 11:40:47 AM
Leviathanial:

A week or two? Hardly. When I had an abortion (GASP I'M A BABY KILLER. LYNCH ME), I was back at work the next day. Nowadays, there's no D+C needed... you just pop a few pills, have a miscarriage and go about your business if you're less than 9 weeks pregnant.
 
Displayed 50 of 615 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | » | Last | Show all



This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report