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(news14charlotte.com)   If you want to boost attendence at school, should you: a) hire motivating teachers, b) make school a safe environment to learn or c) bribe students with free car   (news14charlotte.com) divider line 66
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2006-01-16 03:40:30 PM
(d) all of the above?
 
2006-01-16 03:41:21 PM
it may send them to school, but they won't want to learn
 
2006-01-16 03:42:43 PM
I would say e) hire strippers.

If I had strippers in English I soooo would have passed.
 
2006-01-16 03:42:46 PM
If they don't keep their gpa up, no entry for the drawing. It's a win situation for everyone. Kids learn, kids don't have to work to buy cheap car that takes tons of $ to maintain and kids are in school, off the streets. I wonder if this will increase over all scholarships to the school at the end of the year?
 
2006-01-16 03:42:47 PM
Well, they need an 85 average to get entered in the draw, might promote them to study. I say, Good Idea!
 
2006-01-16 03:43:23 PM
(e) Hire an all-cougar staff. Evryone loves a hot teacher who puts out.
 
2006-01-16 03:43:31 PM
Since this is Fark, I'll go with c.
 
2006-01-16 03:43:59 PM
As well, let me add, Scholarships for college are basically bribery. I have no problem with offering rewards for performance (and by rewards, I mean something tangible, not a slip of paper)
 
2006-01-16 03:46:13 PM
Not just any car. This Car ...

Big Ass Hot Rod

(abum maybe NSFW ads and a couple videos)
 
2006-01-16 03:46:59 PM
it may send them to school, but they won't want to learn

That doesn't matter... attendence is the #1 factor in the amount of funding that schools get. As long as they get them there by any means necessary, they keep getting their money. Which is why actual learning in classrooms is on the wane, since actual learning tends to discourage students from coming.

It's a sickening state of affairs.
 
2006-01-16 03:47:07 PM
Hire the 2 Jax cheerleaders who were caught farking in a bathroom stall..for "pep" rallies in the janitor closet.
 
2006-01-16 03:47:25 PM
get more mary kay letourneau teachers?

seriously, when i was in hs (yeeeears ago) there was this school sponsored anti drug program where you'd pledge you woulnd't take drugs (strictly honor system), and in return the school'd take you on special events (rock concerts, skiing, pro sporting events, etc).

worst user of tax payer money. ever.
 
2006-01-16 03:47:26 PM
Please, please let it be B.

/haven't rtfa
 
2006-01-16 03:50:32 PM
I really wish they'd do this at the HS I teach at.

Although we're such an underperforming school, we'd need to set the grade requirement at about a 75. I hate to say it, but set at an 85, a lot of kids would quit before they ever tried. I know a lot of you will say "their loss", but honestly, I'd rather it be attainable.

And no, I don't baby my students. Excluding my honors classes, I give out a lot more Ds and Fs than I do As, Bs, and Cs... If the kids don't do their work, they don't pass. The reason is that my honors classes are the exception is because those kids will actually work for their grade, even though they do about 5x more work than my college-prep classes of the same grade level.
 
2006-01-16 03:53:29 PM
i saw this advertised today on a bus by the Chicago Public Schools.

More than 30,000 Chicago Public School students who had perfect attendance from the first day of school on September 6 th through November 30 th were eligible to win one months rent or mortgage up to $1,000 paid courtesy of WGCI or a $500 gift card courtesy of Jewel-Osco as part of the CPS Attendance Improvement Initiative.

Jewel-Osco is a grocery store chain owned by Albertson's.

CPS STUDENTS TO WIN FREE RENT, MORTGAGE AND FREE GROCERIES FOR PERFECT ATTENDANCE

/welcome to Dick Cheney's America
 
2006-01-16 03:53:37 PM
Does the school pay for the gas too?
 
2006-01-16 03:55:32 PM
Money Talks.
 
2006-01-16 03:58:47 PM
Oh yeah - and highly talented interesting teachers LOVE to work for $25 a year (which is what I made in college delivering pizzas)
 
2006-01-16 03:59:26 PM
er um $25K.....
 
2006-01-16 04:08:46 PM
Chances are pretty good, that 99% of 'entrants' for this car, will be the richkids who have tutoring and a soccermom to drive them to school everyday.
I guess if nothing else, it will re-inforce the idea of lottery to the students. No matter how much you might think you deserve to win, itll always go to someone who doesnt.
If they wanted to provide a real encouragement, try offering several incentives, not just a one-off for the one kid who probably dosnt need it.

Having said all that, the car yard who decided to cut their advertising budget, and use the money directly for this, are worthy of something here.
 
2006-01-16 04:09:48 PM
I would have been skeptical about this if it wasn't for the GPA requirement. Seems like anything to motivate students nowadays is a plus, even though it is sad that we have to admit that the prospect of future employment possiblities and a secure financial future arent enough to motivate them to get their hind-ends through school.
 
2006-01-16 04:10:09 PM
D) Hire teachers like the ones in Van Halen's Hot For Teacher Video.
 
2006-01-16 04:14:24 PM
It is absolutely working, said Principal Ralph Paterson. We have the second best attendance for the first three months of school in the history of the school; and this is our 34th year at Richmond Senior High School.

I've heard of being held back or failing for one year, but 34? They must really want the pickup truck.
 
2006-01-16 04:18:00 PM
Pssh. LA Unified has been doing this for years.
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
 
2006-01-16 04:19:33 PM
Also hookers and blow.
 
2006-01-16 04:22:34 PM
Here's an idea. Make school interesting. Hire qualified teachers and pay them more than you pay someone working at Burger King.
 
2006-01-16 04:25:55 PM
How about if they don't want to go then don't make them. Take the ones who want to go and learn and teach them better.

The world needs ditch diggers too.
 
2006-01-16 04:28:25 PM
A Chevy? They are trying to bribe someone with a Chevy?

hahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
2006-01-16 04:30:44 PM
cowsaregoodeating
How about if they don't want to go then don't make them. Take the ones who want to go and learn and teach them better.

Regrettably, state laws don't let teachers or schools get away with stuff like that. Seriously. If your students are underperforming, you lose federal aid, plus it is (quite reasonably) assumed that you are not doing your job as a teacher, viz., teaching them.

Teaching is a thankless task that requires you to find ways to get kids to want to learn, even when they're not naturally motivated. That, and the low pay, is why we don't have more people doing it.
 
2006-01-16 04:31:46 PM
I favor boobies over cars so I'll vote for hiring strippers. Or maybe a good teacher

images.theglobeandmail.com
 
2006-01-16 04:31:59 PM
doshus

Hire the 2 Jax cheerleaders who were caught farking in a bathroom stall..for "pep" rallies in the janitor closet.

Those were Carolina Cheerleaders. Please research your skanks better in the future.
 
2006-01-16 04:34:49 PM
I guess I have to say I agree with scuffer. I think incentives are a great idea, but spreading them around a little bit would probably help more. Maybe they could get five ATVs or something rather than a car.

/then again, I guess city kids don't need atvs
//big screen televisions?
 
2006-01-16 04:38:44 PM
They did this many moons ago when I was in HS in Florida as well. If I recall correctly, they got a bunch of the drug-seizure cars from the Sheriff and gave them away to kids who had perfect attendance. Only problem was they were Hyundais, Saturns, Chevys and the like...nothing to write home about, let alone go to school in order to learn how to write home about them.
 
2006-01-16 04:39:22 PM
fark attendence. I'm a HS senior, #1 in my class, and I skip all the time. It doesn't matter whether you're in class as long as you learn the material. Since 50% of time in most HS classes is wasted, you can get away with missing a lot of class. I come to class when the teacher is good and the material is challenging, and I skip when it's stupid and boring. If schools want kids to show up, they need to make the classes worth showing up to.

Also, one of the local Ford dealerships is doing something similar; but they're giving away a Mustang based on grades. Each A, B, etc. gets you so many entries into the contest. And a Mustang is actually a somewhat desirable car, unlike pretty much any chevy (Corvettes excepted)
 
2006-01-16 04:46:16 PM
A good education is its own reward, but a good education and a car? Now that's a deal maker.

Students that need bribery to stay in school are people that are going to need immediate material gains to commit to anything in life.

I'll take an honest delinquent over a greedy upstanding citizen any day.
 
2006-01-16 04:49:48 PM
Eighty percent of success is showing up. The other half is mental.
 
2006-01-16 04:51:49 PM
blazemongr

Regrettably, state laws don't let teachers or schools get away with stuff like that. Seriously. If your students are underperforming, you lose federal aid, plus it is (quite reasonably) assumed that you are not doing your job as a teacher, viz., teaching them.

Teaching is a thankless task that requires you to find ways to get kids to want to learn, even when they're not naturally motivated. That, and the low pay, is why we don't have more people doing it.


I wonder when we the people lost control of the government. At what point did we stop paying attention and start thinking that we can't do anything about the way the government works? Granted it's hard but at some point we even stopped trying.

Ok, the states say you can't do it. Where is the state getting their money from? The people last time I checked. I have yet to hear any pundit, citizen, or expert say that we have the best education system we can have. Most say it isn't adequate. Further no one can say why it's bad and the finger pointing goes on and on. No one know how to fix it either. We just keep muddling on spending untold billions of dollars a year churning out American Citizens who are qualified to listen to an ipod and expect the government to give them everything they think they "deserve".

How about this, we take a cue from countries that test higher than ours and make our public education system and make it compete with private industry. Tie the money to the child instead of the institution. If the child isn't learning or their education is suffering they take their money to a place where they can learn. No one left in your public school or it can't keep operating? Too bad. Should have done better.

My state spends $9000 per student. They go to school for about 160 days of the year. That is roughly $55 per day. Put 10 of them in the same class that is $550 per day. Can you put together an educational program for ten students for $550 per day? I think so.
 
2006-01-16 04:59:05 PM
keydock, if you're really as smart as you say you are, then you should have your ass in class. Not because it will help you learn, because I'm well aware that smart kids often learn better on their own than in a "stupid and boring" class. I've been there. But you are cheating your fellow students out of a learning opportunity when you don't show up and don't have your say. I know bad teachers can be frustrating, but smart kids like you can help equalize and imbue a classroom with some life. Think your school sucks? Then do something about it.
 
2006-01-16 05:12:03 PM
medina high school in ohio is doing the same thing.


we did it first.
 
2006-01-16 05:24:15 PM
Man its too bad college doesnt work like that. I could buy a new chevy for each semesters tuition I pay. The only upside is the low interest rate of student loans.
 
2006-01-16 05:31:56 PM
Wow 85? Maybe the grading scheme is different there than it is in Ontario... but 85% is a mid A-Low A+, and is pretty much a guaranteed $500-1000 University scholarship at any school but the really respectable ones - and even then probably only if you are going into Engineering.

Is this about the equivalent of this 85 grade?

Oh yeah and Tuition tends to be around $4500 dollars for University in Canada, not those insanely high American school prices :/ They still feel far too high though...
 
2006-01-16 05:43:11 PM
I guess the desire to do more than pump gas or work a third shift cashier job at Quickee Mart isn't enough to motivate kids?
 
2006-01-16 05:49:37 PM
Does the winning student also get a lesson in owing taxes on a prize?
 
2006-01-16 05:54:31 PM
Wow 85? Maybe the grading scheme is different there than it is in Ontario... but 85% is a mid A-Low A+, and is pretty much a guaranteed $500-1000 University scholarship at any school but the really respectable ones - and even then probably only if you are going into Engineering.

Is this about the equivalent of this 85 grade?


Every school I've gone to in the states says 85% is a middle B.

90% - 100% = A
80% - 90% = B

I've seen different teachers work the edges differently wrt pluses and minuses.
 
2006-01-16 05:58:33 PM
liquidfalcon

Seriously? 85% = A?

...yet another reason I should find some way to move to Canada

/would be an A student in Canada
//only a B student in America
///does it without even trying, though
////my own fault, I suppose
/////this wouldn't motivate me
//////record slashies for me!
 
2006-01-16 06:09:24 PM
I think the Canadian curriculum is more difficult... or at least its harder to get an 80+ percentage in class... Its been a while since I've been out of High school, but I recall doing Trig in grade 10 which my American friends don't seem to do... either way I don't care really... if anyone is really interested you can probably find the Ontario curriculum online somewhere - but I can't imagine why anyone would be.

Or else it could just be like from the Simpsons..
'I moved here from Canada, and they think I'm slow ehhh...?'
 
2006-01-16 06:10:55 PM
True story: my sister won a 2006 Mustang GT at her "Project Graduation" party. She had good attendance, and decent grades. A person who met these criteria only had to submit their name for each instance of a good grade, etc. Apparently, my sister had pretty decent odds in the pot.
 
2006-01-16 06:24:20 PM
Abe Vigoda's Ghost-
Believe me, they would be thoroughly "researched".
 
2006-01-16 06:40:01 PM
keydock: fark attendence. I'm a HS senior, #1 in my class, and I skip all the time. It doesn't matter whether you're in class as long as you learn the material.

If you can do that, then either you intentionally took classes that were far too easy for you or your school doesn't offer classes that are challenging enough. Either way, something's wrong.
 
2006-01-16 06:51:53 PM
d) Enforce truancy laws and arrest parents of habitual offenders.
 
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