BoGGiNBo: too bad he did not have shortness of breath before he broke the tie to cut student loans... thus making the interest rates higher for students...

Fark the students. What have students ever done for Dick Cheney? They're not joining up to fight and he'll be dead before they even start making a living and paying taxes.

are you still mumbling away from the corner, HKNPLR?

he has been "cut a huss". a quick search of the thread reveals no mention of 'libby' - his #1 and a man who couldn't lie straight in bed

does he deserve respect for allowing such an idiot and threat to national security into such an important position?

with a name like moral_purity, I'm pretty much thinking he's a troll.

But in all seriousness, sounds like Dick has CHF, which can and will still kill him.It is serious and will not go away from a simple diuretic. That only is used to try to keep the fluid from building up around the heart.

sad, isn't it HKNPLR? you tried to defend cheney and then you made youself look a fool as you failed to do so in any way. now instead, you rely on posting pictures of women in various states of undress as support for your 'case'

in fact, i think that your mumbling gets you deeper into it now

Granted, he has been indicted, though not for a matter of "threat to national security" but instead for one count of obstruction of justice, two counts of perjury and two counts of making false statements.

so, in other words, he was indicted for lying. this, the man at the center of the wmd allegations that led to war, is a man who will lie to hide his and cheney's involvement in the outing of an ciaagent

given that much of the evidence used to build the case for war was incorrect, given that bush has tried to prevent investigations into the administration's role in that and given also that libby would appear to be willing to lie to try to hide the administration's role, then, i think that it is indeed a matter of national security - the very highest matter in fact

facts? you?

for hours now your lack of objectivity and attempts to misrepresent the halliburton contracts, have seen reduced to posting pictures of women in bikinis in a thread about cheney

Wow...

As Australian, this thread just boggles my mind, and not in the cool "Game of Boggle Dice Game" way.

We don't even generally know who our Dep. Prime Minister is half the time (our direct equivalent to your VP). Then again, our Prime Minister is so firmly entrentched and in charge that it doesn't really matter too much.

Having said that, there's no point in wishing ill will on someone, even if you totally disagree with their thinking and/or actions.

I mean, I'm a pretty centre in my views, so I really don't go for either the extreme right or left that tend to show up here so often. I wonder sometimes what it's like being so hungry to make a point so agressively. Then again, it's easy to sit here hundreds of miles away and pass judgement (although I was in the US in September and October 2004, and got to talk to a lot of people all over the country - very enlightening), so I should probably not think too hard about it :-)

Look, the best way to work against something you disagree with is to back off, do your research, gather your evidence, and present it in such a fashion that you don't come off sounding like a total lunatic.

The amount of times I have been so frustrated with a group of morons protesting for a point I agree with in a way that makes the point invalid... you know? The messenger can be so over the top that any ideas they are trying to present wouldn't be listened to by any rational human being.

Maybe it would be easier if we all became actors - apparently they always have all the answers politically...

(By the way - ever notice how actors/musicians who hate the Bush admin never come out with anything stronger than faint condemnation - as if they somehow don't want to lose all their "red state" fans by saying what they *really* think?

I think the cautionary tale of the Dixie Chicks has sunk in... and the only actors/musicians who do say something really harsh are people like Sean Penn, who seems to have some sory of emotional balance problem:-)