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(Some Guy)   Wisconsin teen arrested for selling attention deficit disorder drugs to students who weren't paying attention to school narc   (wluk.com) divider line 67
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2006-01-03 09:02:38 PM  
Could you repeat the headline? I wasn't paying attention
 
2006-01-03 09:05:29 PM  
whose worse though, the narks or the kids who are gonna end up on a 20 year aderrol bender

good luck idiots
 
2006-01-03 09:05:45 PM  
Noam Chomsky surrenders

/obscure?
 
2006-01-03 09:05:51 PM  
The shcool chef noticed something was wrong when the whole group went to a Phil Collins concert.
 
2006-01-03 09:06:13 PM  
Adderall = amphetamine
Desoxyn = methamphetamine

They give this stuff to kids to make them behave.
 
2006-01-03 09:09:52 PM  
Adderall and ritalin= Diet Coke

Try the real thing. With teeth numbing goodness.
 
2006-01-03 09:10:05 PM  
was it the buyers or sellers not paying attention to the narc?
 
2006-01-03 09:11:31 PM  
at least you know that the kids are getting a good enough education to know how to spell the names of the drugs

"care for some desoxyn?"

"dont mind if i do!"
 
2006-01-03 09:11:52 PM  
larrynmn, the dealer kid was a little biotch who was selling her siblings' medication. I'd say she needs a kick where the kitten killers dream of.
 
2006-01-03 09:13:17 PM  
I can tell by the above postings that this thread will be the most idiotic, redunda ... ooooooooh look, a butterfly !
 
2006-01-03 09:13:39 PM  
Normally, I'd say that this sort of behavior...hey, an airplane!
 
2006-01-03 09:13:43 PM  
Yes tom cruise is any idiot but, I can't wrap my brain around this "War on Drugs" where one of the most evil drugs is Crystal Meth and then adderall (wich is basically the same thing?)is prescribed to kids under the logic they are not doing well in school. WTF.

Retarded war on drugs, and doubly retarded Doctors and parents.
 
2006-01-03 09:14:27 PM  
Maybe someone could post this in the thread?

http://www.orthodoxanarchist.com/calvin_add_remix.jpg
 
2006-01-03 09:14:33 PM  
First thing I thought of when I read the headline:

transfertown.com

"I bet you're a narc. Deal's off, beat it!"

/owns the poster
//apparently, it's a t-shirt as well.
 
2006-01-03 09:25:16 PM  
80 cents to a dollar? That's such a good deal. I sell mine for 5 dollars at the very least.

I would of bought all of them off those 14 year old suckers and sold them at a mad profit.
 
2006-01-03 09:27:12 PM  
sluck604,

adderall (wich is basically the same thing?)

Not at all the same thing.

Amphetamines are benzene rings with a -CH2CHCH3NH2 attached to them.

Methamphetamines are benzene rings with a -CH2CHCH3NHCH3 attached to them.
 
2006-01-03 09:31:21 PM  
?
 
2006-01-03 09:32:38 PM  
What ever happened to going to school, smoking a joint, skipping and class and taking three lunch periods? Drugs have gotten way too complicated nowadays.

/always wanted to make a slash comment
 
2006-01-03 09:33:57 PM  
SchlingFo

I'm not a chemist; how does one methyl group make that much of a difference?
 
2006-01-03 09:34:53 PM  
SchlingFo

Amphetamines are benzene rings with a -CH2CHCH3NH2 attached to them.

Methamphetamines are benzene rings with a -CH2CHCH3NHCH3 attached to them.


Aren't phenethylamines fun?
 
2006-01-03 09:41:58 PM  
jkaoclobb,

how does one methyl group make that much of a difference?

I'll explain it biologically, as it's a bit easier to visualize.

A lot of drugs act by binding to a receptor within your CNS. They bind to the receptors in much the same way as a key fits a lock. For a key to fit a lock, it must have a certain number of teeth, and the teeth must be the correct shape.

When you add a methyl group to a drug, you're adding another tooth to the key. Now, the drug may still bind to the receptor, but it may not bind as well.

It may bind to the receptor and not do a damn thing, preventing other, better matching, chemicals from binding to the receptor.

Or, it may not bind at all and just be metabolized out of the body.

Or, it may bind to an unforseen receptor.

The interplay between the drugs and the receptors is VERY precise, and pretty much any structural change (in the drug or the receptor) is going to bring about a change in the action of the drug.
 
2006-01-03 09:42:23 PM  
SchlingFo

While you're at it, do you want to give me a quick summary of the major electrophilic aromatic substitution reactions? My notes got wet and I have a test tomorrow. :(

/Takes Adderall
//High dosage
///Works farking wonders. Even if it is an amphetamine.
////I'd be zoned thru all of my honors/AP classes without it.
/////Respect mah slashthoritah!
 
2006-01-03 09:43:03 PM  
Ahh, thank god for Adderall...my roommate has been cleaning the house now for about 4 hours :)
 
2006-01-03 09:43:54 PM  
ADCS,

Aren't phenethylamines fun?

Luckily, for me, I haven't done any wet chemistry in about a year. :)

/Yes, they're fun to play with on paper. Not so much in the lab.
 
2006-01-03 09:44:11 PM  
waiiiit...kids are selling their perscription drugs?

you dont say...
 
2006-01-03 09:47:10 PM  
Isn't that the "paradoxical effect"? Makes kids concentrate. Makes adults tweak.
 
2006-01-03 09:47:50 PM  
Actually i have a personal experience with this...if youll sit down its story time

Im going to a phycologist this thursday(im 14) and thier is a good chance that i may be getting this drug for A.D.D(attention defecit disorder) and a emo friend of mine (cutter, smoker, drinkier) offered me 10 bucks a pill..
 
2006-01-03 09:47:51 PM  
VikShanker,


Here's a decent one:

Here ya go
 
2006-01-03 09:51:01 PM  
They say she sold it to fellow students for about 80 cents to a dollar per pill.

Undercharging!

I've tried it a few times (don't have a prescription obviously) and it can have its uses, but you have to be careful with that kind of thing. Also, it certainly seems to be heavily overprecribed to kids who just need a little more discipline, not some expensive drugs.
 
2006-01-03 09:53:59 PM  
Yes, they're fun to play with on paper. Not so much in the lab.

Can't say that's the first time I've heard that... heh
 
2006-01-03 09:55:09 PM  
VikShanker -- or anyone on adderall or ritalin

Do you feel it increases concentration at the expense of creativity? What has your overall experience been?

Anyone tried modafinil? Its legal and I keep hearing it keeps you awake and alert without the tweak.
 
2006-01-03 09:56:17 PM  
Amphetamines have nothing on any opioids. But, I'll take an amphetamine withdrawal over the opioid withdrawal any day..
 
2006-01-03 09:57:38 PM  
When I was in school they'd put kids on ritalin for any reason. If you're kinda jumpy, hard to concentrate, bored in class, they'd slap you on the pills. It was their way of dealing with you without having to actually deal with you. If things have continued that way, I'm suprised there aren't more of these busts. Or maybe there are, and just not getting posted on Fark.
 
2006-01-03 09:59:33 PM  
I'm in college and holy shiat, Adderall gets abused like CRAZY! That's why they have it in capsule form now...kids were grinding up the pills and snorting them.
 
2006-01-03 10:02:23 PM  
Out of curiosity, SchlingFo did any substance abuse or a certain liking for chemicals make you want to be a chemist?
 
2006-01-03 10:05:38 PM  
NikkoKitty

thats kinda the point, who cares if she's the only one capitalizing on having 3 other siblings on the drugs.. the article makes it sound like they werent even a family or associated with each other

no its call the cops, and at the expense of what except so those 3 can have all the drugs they'll ever need

child bearing is hit and miss.. 1 outta 4 aint bad
 
2006-01-03 10:05:42 PM  
He needs it. Here is his essay:

img364.imageshack.us
 
2006-01-03 10:07:11 PM  
scape,

Oh, nothing like that.

When I went to college, I was going with the intent of going to med school (I've currently changed my mind to P.A. school, but am wavering between the two).

I really didn't care what my degree was in, as I enjoy learning pretty much anything.

So, I took the placement tests (it had been about 4 years since I'd been in school) and I scored well in the math and chemistry sections.

I figured (correctly, as it turns out) that a degree in chemistry would give me more to fall back on than a degree in math, so I went the chemistry route.

It is a lot of fun, and it's neat to be able to figure out how to make stuff.
 
2006-01-03 10:07:16 PM  
TedO

What ever happened to going to school, smoking a joint, skipping and class and taking three lunch periods? Drugs have gotten way too complicated nowadays.

o we still do that, only now we take 4 lunch periods.

/damn lunch periods are 15 minutes
 
2006-01-03 10:08:16 PM  
Someday everybody will be on psychotropic drugs. It is possible to boost the functioning of the mind through pharmacology.

/beer, my anti-drug
 
2006-01-03 10:10:56 PM  
SchlingFo

You, sir, are my new hero. Thank you so much.

Even taking bio-organic chem right now, its fun figuring out how simple (theoretically) it is to make things... We are making acetominophen in 2 weeks. Its amazing, learning this stuff.

Just out of curiosity, what are you currently employed as?
 
2006-01-03 10:14:27 PM  
This morning I took my ritalin and my valium at the same time. Twenty minutes later I closed my eyes and saw pretty red and yellow patterns swirling around in my head. Ritalin is for my ADD and the valium is for my fear of the dentist.

Ride the snake!!!
 
2006-01-03 10:15:31 PM  
SchlingFo
Thanks!
 
2006-01-03 10:16:05 PM  
VikShanker,

You, sir, are my new hero. Thank you so much.

You're welcome :)

Even taking bio-organic chem right now, its fun figuring out how simple (theoretically) it is to make things... We are making acetominophen in 2 weeks. Its amazing, learning this stuff.

Physically making the stuff is easy. The hard part is figuring out how to do it. If you've got that down, you're golden.

Just out of curiosity, what are you currently employed as?

Chemical process engineering.
 
2006-01-03 10:31:06 PM  
jkaoclobb,

Thanks!

You're welcome :)
 
2006-01-03 10:52:02 PM  
Mitch Hedberg surrenders.
 
2006-01-03 10:54:08 PM  
VikShanker -- or anyone on adderall or ritalin

Do you feel it increases concentration at the expense of creativity? What has your overall experience been?


I use Ritalin myself. I've tried Adderall, but don't care for the jittery feeling it leaves me with pretty much all the time. As for stifling creativity, it's just the opposite, actually. As a technical writer these days, I can safely say that the Ritalin not only helps keep me on task for more than 8 minutes at a time, but it also allows the ideas, as well as the implementation, to flow much more easily.

I, for one, don't see the appeal of using these types of meds as actual stimulants. If I take a bit too much, or two doses too close together, I get shaky, stomach gets upset and I feel very dehydrated. Sure, I'm awake, but I feel like crap... it's a non-functional state, as far as I'm concerned. In the right amount, in someone that does have ADD, the effects are very obvious. If it's prescribed to a kid that doesn't really have ADD, it's doing nothing more than keeping them from daydreaming, or allowing them to tune out that distracting teacher and focus *only* on daydreaming (works both ways).

That is more of a learning stimulation issue than a physical one. If a teacher expects to drone on for 3 hours about George Washington, heck no... kids aren't going to pay attention. That's not ADD... that's a $20,000/year teacher doing the bare minimum because that's what they pay her. Often, all it takes is a teacher that understands ADD, and knows how to keep kids involved, without patronizing them or making them feel stupid. And then there's the whole parenting thing...

I think there is a definite place for ADD drugs, but if they aren't used in conjunction with proper parenting and "educated" teachers, then all you're doing is making it worse for the child later in life when they may not have access to the crutch. I *can* work without Ritalin, because I know how to get myself through the process. It takes longer, and it's not nearly as efficient. I'm afraid that most kids these days aren't being guided through their particular issues, instead being dosed and ignored.

-Wood
 
2006-01-03 10:54:19 PM  
NikkoKitty: larrynmn, the dealer kid was a little biotch who was selling her siblings' medication. I'd say she needs a kick where the kitten killers dream of.


Kick in her mouth?
 
2006-01-03 11:02:24 PM  
Modafinil is legal but you need a prescription now.
 
2006-01-03 11:08:31 PM  
The local news touted this as a "New drug trend" I don't know about you but I've known of people selling add drugs for years.
 
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