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2006-01-03 12:52:12 PM  
"In fact, Google could over time become more of a hardware company than anything else," Mr Peck said.

I endorse this product and/or service.
 
2006-01-03 01:20:04 PM  
uh-oh
 
2006-01-03 01:30:38 PM  
Something Orwellian about this. Three global super-companies...

Oceania and Eastacia has always been at war with Eurasia.
Google and Wal-Mart has always been at war with Microsoft.
 
2006-01-03 01:31:13 PM  
*Eastasia

Dammit.
 
2006-01-03 01:37:45 PM  
Smells a little bit like WebTV to me.
 
2006-01-03 01:39:02 PM  
According to the LA Times, Google will announce details of the new device at CES, where it could also unveil its partnership with Wal Mart to sell the machines.

They mean from this story? Those are simply predictions.
 
2006-01-03 01:42:04 PM  
From the 2006 soothsayer article:

"Meanwhile "Wired" magazine co-founder John Battelle, whose crystal ball is closely watched by the Internet technology faithful, says "Google will stumble" due to a bad partnership.."

If there's anything that would shake the faith of the Google-loyal, it's definitely wally world.
 
2006-01-03 01:45:29 PM  
where else would they sell it?
 
2006-01-03 01:47:13 PM  
so how do you pronounce the OS

Goo - OS

or GooOS [goose]
 
2006-01-03 02:16:47 PM  
While this is all speculation, it fits with what they are trying to do. There was rumors a while back that there were partnering with TiVo to do ads with them. Then they started buying tons of dark fibre, almost as much as the regular internet. Dumb terminals, hooked to a TV, costs $200 to buy, with a $10/month service charge. They could make a mint, if they do it right, and it's Google, they haven't done much wrong.
 
2006-01-03 02:32:33 PM  
this is really, really, really stupid.

really.

get a farking mac already.
 
2006-01-03 03:02:54 PM  
Google Linux on the internets in 3...2...
 
2006-01-03 03:04:51 PM  
I'm confused, this is a prediction list and yet it claims to have sources? Where are they drawing the line between a prediction and a rumor?

/"Well, if they did make a computer, Google Cube would be a spiffy name."
 
2006-01-03 03:05:00 PM  
Does anyone think the Google OS will be Linux based?
 
2006-01-03 03:05:30 PM  
Waloogle?
Googlemart?
 
2006-01-03 03:05:49 PM  
Cube? Been there, done that.
www.epiacenter.com
 
2006-01-03 03:06:33 PM  
Google and Wal-Mart? Isn't that kind of like oil and water?

-IR
 
2006-01-03 03:06:34 PM  
Let's all hope that it's Linux based, and not BeOS. The Bullshiat OS.
 
2006-01-03 03:06:49 PM  
valhalla1980: Smells a little bit like WebTV to me.


That's the first thing I thought of, as well.
 
2006-01-03 03:06:55 PM  
> Does anyone think the Google OS will be Linux based?

I think they developed their own OS from scratch.

Not.
 
2006-01-03 03:06:55 PM  
a third OS to rulle them all
 
2006-01-03 03:07:17 PM  
Cue Google world domination conspiracy theorists in 5..4...
 
2006-01-03 03:07:55 PM  
$200 cube? Here's a $100 laptop with a hand crank.

www.smh.com.au
 
2006-01-03 03:08:21 PM  
Oh yea, this is a good idea...

WTF? The hardware market is already cut throat, margins are down to nothing, and a decent PC already cost next to nothing. Why would someone dish out $200 for a google cube? Someone at google needs to get fired.

Hey...here's an idea, how about a box that turns your TV into a computer? I bet that would make a fourtune and everyone would have one!
 
2006-01-03 03:08:48 PM  
Fark expected to debut item copied from Slashdot, with a lame-assed joke headline, Fark fanboys not expected to care
 
2006-01-03 03:08:55 PM  
www.omegacomplex.com

"What would you like us to tell you to do today?"
 
2006-01-03 03:09:07 PM  
Hey, BeOS was cool until they made it from a platform into an application.
 
2006-01-03 03:09:34 PM  
Shadowspawn: get a farking mac already.

to bad those are really, really, really expensive.
 
2006-01-03 03:09:34 PM  
Quit telling us to buy a mac, you fanatical logo-worshippers. I've tried them, and I prefer PCs.
 
2006-01-03 03:09:39 PM  
IRelayer: Google and Wal-Mart? Isn't that kind of like oil and water?

-IR



Not at all, they're both the very best at what they do, which, as it happens, is providing customers with what they want.
 
2006-01-03 03:10:07 PM  
You have 30 minutes to move your cube.
 
2006-01-03 03:10:32 PM  
I got an HP on Black Friday from Office Depot for $99 after rebate

Certainly can't beat that!
 
2006-01-03 03:10:50 PM  
Did you know that if you re-arrange the letters in Wal-Mart, it spells out BUTTSECKS?
 
2006-01-03 03:11:29 PM  
Mathematical Tautology:

Walmart Spiffy.

ever.
 
2006-01-03 03:11:32 PM  
Someone mention BeOS?

http://www.skyos.org/
 
2006-01-03 03:11:36 PM  
gweilo8888, if you want to be that critical about it, "Download Squad" had it up before slashdot (check the timestamp), which was likely the source of the Slashdot link. Yeesh, I think you may have better things to do than claim who got what first.

That said... everyone is up in arms over what operating system a "Google Cube," would support, but I've heard nothing about hardware? How do we know its not an Atari 2600 with a Google sticker slapped on it?
 
2006-01-03 03:11:42 PM  
Shadowspawn: this is really, really, really stupid.

really.

get a farking mac already.


Yeah, because that's a lot better.

This was on /. earlier, and as others said this is just speculation. Google doesn't have the capability to release an OS by 2006 unless they're going to piggyback on an already-there option.
 
2006-01-03 03:12:21 PM  
Danger Mouse
If they are trying to use it as a loss - leader then it is not stupid. It is advertising for their web services. Many businesses give the portal to enter cheaply and make their cash on the service/ refills.


/razor blades anyone
//free crack pipes too?
 
2006-01-03 03:12:22 PM  
Contrabulous Flabtraption: Not at all, they're both the very best at what they do, which, as it happens, is providing customers with what they want.

---

That, or making customers think they're providing them with what they want.

OR, providing customers with what they think the want. (subtle difference)
 
2006-01-03 03:12:24 PM  
 
2006-01-03 03:12:24 PM  
Danger Mouse: WTF? The hardware market is already cut throat, margins are down to nothing, and a decent PC already cost next to nothing. Why would someone dish out $200 for a google cube? Someone at google needs to get fired.

Agreed, this is just going to turn out a smudge on googles record.

Margins are really cut throat in this business, you almost have to expect a loss.
 
2006-01-03 03:12:32 PM  
THe weird thing is that all my Mac friends voted for Bush :(
 
2006-01-03 03:12:36 PM  
jjorsett

You have 30 minutes to move your cube.


Good one!
 
2006-01-03 03:12:47 PM  
wouldn't the walmart partnership violate the "do no evil" clause google supposedly has?
 
2006-01-03 03:13:00 PM  
I, for one, welcome our new Google overlords.
 
2006-01-03 03:13:20 PM  
You know, nothing will piss away a good reputation of a brand name than selling its products at Wal-Mart.

I don't buy this story.

And if it is true Larry & Sergey need to get their heads examiend.
 
2006-01-03 03:13:42 PM  
Sell your Google stock now.
 
2006-01-03 03:13:50 PM  
grytpype-thynne

I think they developed their own OS from scratch.

That'll give SCO someone else to go after ;)
 
2006-01-03 03:15:04 PM  
Love Macs and love Google, though sometimes they don't really work well togehter. Bill Gates is pretty cool giving his $$$ away to help end poverty, but his company is just sitting on their butts not releasing anything interesting.

It's like they gave up after XP. Yeah, I know VISTA is on it's way, but BY YEARS END?!?!

Let's make this thread flameoroonilicious!
 
2006-01-03 03:15:07 PM  
I just want to know what the "Feeling Lucky" button is going to do.
 
2006-01-03 03:15:58 PM  
DrToast: You know, nothing will piss away a good reputation of a brand name than selling its products at Wal-Mart.

---

Probably the only good thing to come out of a partnership with Wal-Mart:

jkontherun.blogs.com
 
2006-01-03 03:16:53 PM  
The Wal-Mart partnership isn't a bad idea, sad to say.

HP's been provideing "low-cost" machines to Wal-Mart for a long time. They're also low-performance. The problem is people who don't know what they're doing, who don't have a lot of money, buy a low-performance machines and wind up running Windows without any kind of security, and get frustrated when they begin to outgrow the basics and can't run certain games. Then spyware/viruses creep in, the thing gets bricked, and no one's around to support them or reformat the drive. (Not that they give you a Windows CD half the time anyway.)

Selling this crowd a low-cost PC designed to do the basics, with an OS tailored to accomplishing only those tasks that's less threat-prone out of the box, is a damn good idea. Think about it, all the services / software will probably be bought from Google. What, these people are going to hit sourceforge?
 
2006-01-03 03:17:04 PM  
In other news, Google plants rumors to discover market acceptance of certain business plans, reads Fark for reaction.

/Still waiting for Google Office.
 
2006-01-03 03:17:05 PM  
A no-frills computer from Wal-Mart; sounds awesome. It might even be more powerful than a 486.
 
2006-01-03 03:17:35 PM  
Wal-Mart sucks, though. I've never set foot in one and I never will. If they were the only retailer in town, I'd start growing my own food.
 
2006-01-03 03:17:53 PM  
Q314: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0280674/ (pops)

As long as we're linking to IMDB, allow me to add this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123755/ (no pops)
 
2006-01-03 03:17:59 PM  
and people think the internet is dumb now...
 
2006-01-03 03:18:22 PM  
...and yes, my grammer and spelling am suck today. No complaining about it until you fedex me some decent coffee.
 
2006-01-03 03:18:37 PM  
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123755/

The preceeding post is the culmination of what's been a really farking bad day.
 
2006-01-03 03:18:53 PM  
theotherblueguy: Considering that "Download Squad" are virtually non-existent compared to even Fark, let alone slashdot or the LA Times, I highly doubt they were the source of the Slashdot story or this one. Far more likely, Slashdot got the story straight from somebody reading the LA Times, and the submitter here nicked it from Slashdot.

traffic.alexa.com
Data courtesy of Alexa
 
2006-01-03 03:19:19 PM  
emobus: Wal-Mart sucks, though. I've never set foot in one and I never will. If they were the only retailer in town, I'd start growing my own food.

You are SOOOOOO lying.
 
2006-01-03 03:20:24 PM  
Exactly how much more 'no-frills' can computers get?

If you are finding it difficult to use or afford the standard home PCs currently on the market, you have bigger problems on your hands.
 
2006-01-03 03:21:39 PM  
GendoIkari: emobus: Wal-Mart sucks, though. I've never set foot in one and I never will. If they were the only retailer in town, I'd start growing my own food.

You are SOOOOOO lying.



How does it suck, exactly?

Wal-Mart sells goods of moderate quality at insanely low prices.

For all the people that "hate" Wal-Mart, they sure have a lot of customers.
 
2006-01-03 03:21:50 PM  
Dumb terminals will be the next big thing whether it is Google of someone else. Using a subscription service for using software online is the easiest way to stop piracy. They might lose money on the hardware, but will get you on all the software subscription services and then will make an extra buck for the ads that will come up in the margins. I also would not put it past them to make the subscription only available through a partnership with Yahoo DSL or Earthlink or something to that effect. Let the anti-trust lawsuits start now.
 
2006-01-03 03:22:54 PM  
I'm still not impressed - Google has NOT helped me find my keys.

I search and search... "MY keys" ... *clickity I feel lucky*

Nada.
 
2006-01-03 03:23:21 PM  
Cool, I can put this next to my NEXT cube.
www.ilmac.net
 
2006-01-03 03:23:42 PM  
Fool_Marquis you make me LOL, i just spit up pepsi one on my lap
 
2006-01-03 03:24:01 PM  
DaSwankOne, you bring up a good point. EVERYTHING is going subscription nowadays. Movies (netflix), music (Yahoo!, Napster). I think you're dead on. Cheap box, subscribe to Google for everything or get ads.
 
2006-01-03 03:24:13 PM  
www.csdm.qc.ca Didn't they already try this?
 
2006-01-03 03:25:27 PM  
palexc: subscribe to Google for everything or get aids.

Ok, Ok.
Where do I sign?....
 
2006-01-03 03:26:51 PM  
Yankees Team Gynecologist: Probably the only good thing to come out of a partnership with Wal-Mart:


What is that?
 
2006-01-03 03:27:29 PM  
DaSwankOne

Dumb terminals will be the next big thing whether it is Google of someone else. Using a subscription service for using software online is the easiest way to stop piracy. They might lose money on the hardware, but will get you on all the software subscription services and then will make an extra buck for the ads that will come up in the margins. I also would not put it past them to make the subscription only available through a partnership with Yahoo DSL or Earthlink or something to that effect. Let the anti-trust lawsuits start now.


Interesting. I found it hard to belive that Google was trying to bust into the hardware buisness per se, but the spokesman in the article said Google could very easly become a hardware comp. It made no sense to me.

Coudl you explain "Dumb terminals" a bit more? and just for the sake of argument, (and for the farkers who aren't as smart as you and I, lets pretnend I know very little about dumb terminals and explain it using small words.

Thanks.


/Seems that most people who do business with Walmart end up getting screwed, no?
 
2006-01-03 03:27:40 PM  
WalMart sells poor quality goods at what they are worth prices. Quality and Walmart is like Bill Gates and Steven Jobs.
 
2006-01-03 03:28:28 PM  
I don't know about the Google Cube, but here's a Wal*Mart Cube:
www.members.shaw.ca
 
2006-01-03 03:29:00 PM  
Er make that a ford pinto and lexus.
 
Ant
2006-01-03 03:29:02 PM  
Danger Mouse: Hey...here's an idea, how about a box that turns your TV into a computer? I bet that would make a fourtune and everyone would have one!

www.stateoftheark.co.nz
 
2006-01-03 03:29:49 PM  
Remember the minitels, the 'ALEX Terminals' in Canada...
and weep that we haven't learned from our mistakes.
 
2006-01-03 03:31:20 PM  
Damnit, now I'm thinking about this too much.

What would make sense isn't a "Google OS", but an appliance that hooks into Google's service. Gmail, Google Talk, and maybe running a browser. That's it, nothing else. No true "OS" to install applications into. Just an internet appliance.

Makes sense with the Sun partnership.
 
2006-01-03 03:32:30 PM  
DrToast: You know, nothing will piss away a good reputation of a brand name than selling its products at Wal-Mart.


The product I am involved with is not in Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart wanted us to re-make our product with cheap materials and zero reliability and lie about it on our packaging, with our name on it.

Suck it Wal-Mart.
 
2006-01-03 03:33:02 PM  
oh, bullshiat. Google would get farking CLOBBERED by Microsoft. Partnering with Wal-Mart is no help either. Anyone remember LinSpire???
 
2006-01-03 03:34:44 PM  
Sounds lame to me but hey, people will buy almost anything.
 
2006-01-03 03:35:08 PM  
palexc: Finally, a reason to have a monitor in your Fridge! Seriously though, who green-lighted that idea? An LCD TV in the door of your Fridge. Brilliant.

/idiots.
 
2006-01-03 03:35:44 PM  
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097438/
 
2006-01-03 03:36:26 PM  
Seriously though, who green-lighted that idea? An LCD TV in the door of your Fridge. Brilliant.

You have kids? You have a kitchen? 1 less appliance taking up space...
 
2006-01-03 03:37:19 PM  
First Google gets with AOL and now Wal-Mart. Are they losing their cool factor?

I guess everyone has to kiss the Wal-Mart rings.
 
2006-01-03 03:37:43 PM  
Hey, you got your Red State mixed into my Blue State.

Dude, you got your Blue State mixed into my Red State.
 
2006-01-03 03:38:34 PM  
I thought it was for the people too fat and lazy to be more than 2 feet away from a television and a food source at once.

Still... Is it at all necessary? And I would have loved to see the look on the face of the first cable installer asked by the customer:

"Hey, can you run another line to my fridge?"
 
2006-01-03 03:39:05 PM  
Danger Mouse Coudl you explain "Dumb terminals" a bit more?

I don't see this new generation of "dumb terminals" in a classic sense. Not to date myself, but my first machine (computer) was a TI-99-4A. It basically was a processor, ROM, sound card and video card. There was no hard drive to store software. This is the kind of dumb terminal I see in the future. In order to load software you had to plug in a cartridge. If I want to use Word, for instance, I will not load it onto my machine. I will either plug in a USB drive with a lot of extra memory for saving files or I will connect to the internet and use the software online. Instead of having a hard drive on my machine, I will store all my files on a internet server. I am not saying that this will happen tomorrow. We still have infrastructure problems to overcome, but the day is coming when this will happen.
 
2006-01-03 03:39:41 PM  
palexc

What would make sense isn't a "Google OS", but an appliance that hooks into Google's service. Gmail, Google Talk, and maybe running a browser. That's it, nothing else. No true "OS" to install applications into. Just an internet appliance.

I suspect you hit the nail on the head. The $$$ is in recurring revenue. No one makes money off of hardware. Well, except Intel. What you said is what I first thought when I read the article. Sounds like what Ma Bell tried years ago but failed because of a lack of broadband. Put this together with Google's broadband push and you have one stop shopping to get grandma on the net, but keep her away from the complicated XP jazz and all the problems that come with it. It's also a good way to get junior on sesamestreet.com without having to wait 2 minutes for an OS to start.

Team it up with the best distribution model in the world, and it makes sense. Which is probably why it'll never happen.

And I don't get the "Walmart sells crap" comments. They sell the same brands of paper towels, DVDs, all beef franks, etc as everyone else, just cheaper. What's the big deal?
 
2006-01-03 03:39:46 PM  
I said it before, hooking up with WalMart may make sense, depending on the audience they're targeting.

If it's a low-cost, easy to use internet appliance, it makes perfect sense.

If it's a geek toy, you sell it direct.

If it's for the hip crowd, you put an Apple logo on it.

If it's for business, you send out some IBM rep's to push it.
 
2006-01-03 03:40:18 PM  
palexc
You have kids? You have a kitchen? 1 less appliance taking up space...


You have room for a couch in front of your fridge? Cuz I don't...
 
2006-01-03 03:41:17 PM  
Why not a Fark*Cube?

/not computer savvy
//knows enough to bet by
///[this field left intentionally blank]
 
2006-01-03 03:42:06 PM  
a picture of the factory that will be producing these wal-mart computers...

tinypic.com
 
2006-01-03 03:42:51 PM  
DaSwankOne

You name isn't Ken Olsen is it? :^)
 
2006-01-03 03:43:02 PM  
default_user01
Still... Is it at all necessary?

My cousin has 3 little kids. In her new house is a custom-built cabinet above the refridgerator for a 32" TV, Dish box and VCR.

What's cheaper, an LCD in the TV door, or custom cabinets. Not for everyone, but I'm sure for some people it's a nice convenience. Not ire-worthy like people with 6 LCDs in the headsets of their car.
 
2006-01-03 03:44:58 PM  
My Grandma has become a master on the WebTV. Whenever she has a problem with it she calls me up and tells me to come fix her "computer". Oh grandma...
/Calls dirt "earth"
//funny grandma
 
2006-01-03 03:45:36 PM  
drjjr2
No one makes money off of hardware. Well, except Intel.

Intel sells in bulk, that's how they make money (and why the PPC wasn't sustainable).

It'd be a good guess to say a Google applicance would use a Transmeta or Via chip.
 
2006-01-03 03:45:37 PM  
Sylvester McMonkey McBean: What is that?

---

MobiBlu MP3 player
 
2006-01-03 03:45:37 PM  
a picture of the factory that will be producing these wal-mart computers...

Comparing Wal-Mart to The Death Star is...

Accurate.
 
2006-01-03 03:48:28 PM  
I could see the Dumb terminal working, but are we there yet? no hard drive? everything stored on line? Do we have the bandwith for that?
 
2006-01-03 03:48:30 PM  
Palexc

"ire-worthy" I love this term.
Well done.
 
2006-01-03 03:48:59 PM  
Danger Mouse You name isn't Ken Olsen is it?

If I get this reference does it make me a computer geek?

/There will never be a need for a dumb terminal in anyone's house.
 
2006-01-03 03:49:42 PM  
palexc

It'd be a good guess to say a Google applicance would use a Transmeta or Via chip.

Transmeta's out of the chip biz, haven't heard of anyone licensing their stuff yet. Via or Geode would be the best shot - if it's even an x86 box.
 
2006-01-03 03:51:05 PM  
I have a dumb terminal in my house already, it's my girlfriend.

*Ba-dum... Ching*

Seriously thouh, I'll be here all week!

/girlfriend's actually pretty smart.
//will be getting my ass handed to me later.
///oh well.
 
2006-01-03 03:51:29 PM  
palexc gets the prize.

It will more than likely be a standalone browser not an OS. It will run web based APPs and be very minimal on the hardware end. My guess...

Sub 1Ghz. Integrated Processor (Probably VIA)
32-128MB RAM
4-8MB Video Adapter (with VGA and RCA hookups)
64-256MB Solid State Memory (Hard Drive)
NIC and Sound
USB ports
(No optical drives)
 
2006-01-03 03:52:40 PM  
DaSwankOne


If I get this reference does it make me a computer geek?

There will never be a need for a dumb terminal in anyone's house.


I didn't mean in that sense. Didn't Ken, after DEC try to start up a dumb terminal business for offices?
 
2006-01-03 03:53:20 PM  
Speaking of chips, what the hell ever happened to Cyrix? The first computer I built from scratch when I was 15 was a Cyrix 166+ Pentium clone. MMX wasn't around yet. Pentium Pro was supposed to be the next big thing.

Pentium II's sucked out loud. Is it a processor? Is it a videogame cartridge? Does it overheat at light speed?

Bah.
 
2006-01-03 03:53:44 PM  
I really need a cheap PC, but I also vowed to never buy a thing from Wal-Mart ever.
 
2006-01-03 03:55:58 PM  
drjjr2

I might actually buy one if they use the AMD Geode
 
2006-01-03 03:56:25 PM  
palexc: What's cheaper, an LCD in the TV door, or custom cabinets.

---

Actually, I'm not sure.

/depends on the quality of the cabinets
//either way you have to pay extra for the TV
 
2006-01-03 03:56:27 PM  
I think it'd have to include a keyboard/mouse, just to prevent some idiot from buying a fancy logitech set that gives their distro the sh*ts for some odd reason. Cheap enough to produce.

Damn thing could probably run on D batteries without a hard disk.
 
2006-01-03 03:58:07 PM  
in 2005, google will pull in 6.1 billion in advertisment. Thats more than any TV network or newspaper. This company is getting outta control.
 
2006-01-03 03:58:47 PM  
If I'm even 90% right I think drjjr2 and AKA Joker should sponsor me for 6 mos. :)
 
2006-01-03 03:59:01 PM  
www.vintage-computer.com
 
2006-01-03 03:59:14 PM  
Friend of a friend got a fridge with internet built in.

Good if you're cooking up something and need to check the Totalfark kitchen threads, set timers, ask questions, etc...
 
2006-01-03 04:01:07 PM  
swahnhennessy

I don't know about the Google Cube, but here's a Wal*Mart Cube:

That's a great post!
 
2006-01-03 04:01:11 PM  
AKA Joker
It will more than likely be a standalone browser not an OS. It will run web based APPs and be very minimal on the hardware end. My guess...

Sub 1Ghz. Integrated Processor (Probably VIA)
32-128MB RAM
4-8MB Video Adapter (with VGA and RCA hookups)
64-256MB Solid State Memory (Hard Drive)
NIC and Sound
USB ports
(No optical drives)


I think you're probably pretty close with that.
 
2006-01-03 04:01:51 PM  
mildlydisturbed: Friend of a friend got a fridge with internet built in.

Good if you're cooking up something and need to check the Totalfark kitchen threads, set timers, ask questions, etc...


Ric Romero suggests telling your friend about wi-fi, it will allow you to take a laptop anywhere in the house while still online.
 
2006-01-03 04:02:39 PM  
If they want cheap, all they need is:
- An OS that runs off a live CD (no hard drive)
- A video card that also supports TV sets
- Built in WiFi

You buy the box, take it home, plug it in, and connect to your neighbor's open wifi point. Instant internet.
 
2006-01-03 04:03:20 PM  
Danger Mouse

I am not sure. I lost track of him after Compaq bought DEC. Actually I think he was fired a few years prior to that. Maybe he is working on this project for Google now. I actually remember working on a DEC system for a company called Landata back in the early 90's. I am current at a large oil company and we use a GI-D. It is only one step away from a dumb terminal. If they thought they could get the same production and save a dime with terminals we would have them.
 
2006-01-03 04:05:03 PM  
default_user01: Speaking of chips, what the hell ever happened to Cyrix?

I don't think Windows 98 (or maybe it was win2k) supported the Cyrix chipset, so Cyrix days were numbered a long time ago.
 
2006-01-03 04:05:18 PM  
Yeah, this was predicted by Nostradamus in Century V, Quatrain 4:

The large mastiff expelled from the city
Will be vexed by the strange alliance,
After having chased the stag to the fields
The wolf and the Bear will defy each other.

But, as you see, this alliance won't last..
 
2006-01-03 04:05:33 PM  
Ah, the Atari 800. How I miss thee...

app.infopia.com
 
2006-01-03 04:05:49 PM  
I think Cyrix went out of business when they started selling illegal weapons to the Russian mafia, and Arnold Schwarzenegger was called in to shut them down.
 
2006-01-03 04:06:05 PM  
drjjr2: And I don't get the "Walmart sells crap" comments. They sell the same brands of paper towels, DVDs, all beef franks, etc as everyone else, just cheaper. What's the big deal?

I think it's 'fashionable' to gripe about Walmart, especially on sites like this where people spout out anything to make themselves sound 'better' than the rest of us.

I bet that most of the people that gripe about Walmart shop there anyway.
 
2006-01-03 04:06:08 PM  
DaSwankOne: I don't see this new generation of "dumb terminals" in a classic sense. Not to date myself, but my first machine (computer) was a TI-99-4A. It basically was a processor, ROM, sound card and video card. There was no hard drive to store software. This is the kind of dumb terminal I see in the future. In order to load software you had to plug in a cartridge. If I want to use Word, for instance, I will not load it onto my machine. I will either plug in a USB drive with a lot of extra memory for saving files or I will connect to the internet and use the software online. Instead of having a hard drive on my machine, I will store all my files on a internet server. I am not saying that this will happen tomorrow. We still have infrastructure problems to overcome, but the day is coming when this will happen.

Where there is a demand there is a way, and people demand local storage.

The utopia of course is a elimination of piracy via on demand applications, but you and I know that this utopia will never be.

Take one look at STEAM for an example of piracy in on demand applications.
 
2006-01-03 04:06:35 PM  
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

DESTROY MICROSOFT!

/Mac Man
 
2006-01-03 04:07:03 PM  
it's a navi.
 
2006-01-03 04:07:07 PM  
DaSwankOne


I am not sure. I lost track of him after Compaq bought DEC. Actually I think he was fired a few years prior to that. Maybe he is working on this project for Google now.


I doubt it, Ken has got to be 80 years old now. (Google tells me he was born in 1926)
 
2006-01-03 04:08:15 PM  
- An OS that runs off a live CD (no hard drive)
Too slow. Solid state memory or burned into a ROM is ideal.

- A video card that also supports TV sets
Specialized low-cost chipset.

- Built in WiFi
Pft. Too expensive, and the people they're targeting won't understand it, let alone shell out $50 for a wireless router. Don't be shocked if this has a RJ-11 jack and PPPoE's right into all this dark fiber Google's been snaping up.
 
2006-01-03 04:08:15 PM  
Cool, as long as it has a USB port. I could have a raw PC, and just plug in my 4 gig thumb drive. The OS is hardwired into the PC, and everything else I get to take with me.
 
2006-01-03 04:08:52 PM  
outerspace.terra.com.br
 
2006-01-03 04:10:26 PM  
Um, Apple makes a lot of money on hardware.
 
2006-01-03 04:10:50 PM  
IdBeCrazyIf: Take one look at STEAM for an example of piracy in on demand applications.

steam loves the cock!

played HL2 the other day. very nice physics, very pretty, but ai was dumb as a stump. Gravity gun was cool tho. Game was nothing special tho, just more half-life. Which isn't a bad thing unto itself, but it's just not worth $50. I'm glad I got friends who are willing to loan out their copies.
 
2006-01-03 04:11:34 PM  
default_user01
Speaking of chips, what the hell ever happened to Cyrix?
Dead, beaten like a cheap whore and driven out of town. Actually brought by VIA; what do you think the C in the C3/Eden chips stands for ;) Ok, it doesn't but the C3's are pretty much Cyrix technology minus the space heater bit :)

With broadband now being so easy to get hold-of in built up areas and I belive Google has a wireless service in America (San Fran?) it would be logicial to assume they were going to make something that could connect to this network & put their adverts up in more places.
If it does VOD (or near as damn it) then it would be pretty spanky IMHO.
 
2006-01-03 04:11:36 PM  
Headso: Ric Romero suggests telling your friend about wi-fi, it will allow you to take a laptop anywhere in the house while still online.

Dirty fingers, counters full of batter and bread crumbs, I think they would rather have a terminal they can wash off and the counter space to cook.
 
2006-01-03 04:12:09 PM  
home.wangjianshuo.com
 
2006-01-03 04:12:09 PM  
Hmmm, Google openly doing buisness with the anti-labor Walmart?....Guess I'll be switching to yahoo.
 
2006-01-03 04:12:23 PM  
To All talking about a Dumb Box. It is the better business model. The ASP model will trump the ISP in the long run. Rent the software, rent storage space etcetc. the box is just a window. ASP world
 
2006-01-03 04:13:13 PM  
Take one look at STEAM for an example of piracy in on demand applications.

STEAM is just a distribution system, not true on-demand.

Google + Sun = Java applets.
 
2006-01-03 04:14:28 PM  
tinypic.com
 
2006-01-03 04:14:44 PM  
openfry
it's a navi.

Does Lain come with it? :)
 
2006-01-03 04:14:46 PM  
I submitted this link with the headline:
Google to release PCs in Wal*Mart locations across fantasy land

/I can't beleive I'm being that asshat...
//I'll buy it just to see if it brings up pictures on holidays automatically.
 
2006-01-03 04:14:56 PM  
I jsut don't trust Google. Sure their slogan is "Do no
harm" but frankly I don't buy that. They are dominating everything
which is fine now that they are being nice and treating people well
but in 10 years when they own the market they could screw everyone or even worse make crappy products because you
won't have a choice.

/See also Walmart. . .
 
2006-01-03 04:17:02 PM  
Neises
: That thing had RF shielding that was an inch thick!! You could throw that puppy down the stairs, plug it in, and still be good to go without a scratch!
 
2006-01-03 04:17:21 PM  
played HL2 the other day. very nice physics, very pretty, but ai was dumb as a stump. Gravity gun was cool tho. Game was nothing special tho, just more half-life. Which isn't a bad thing unto itself, but it's just not worth $50. I'm glad I got friends who are willing to loan out their copies.

HL2 was enjoyable. You paid $50 to cover the development of the Source engine, which is fairly impressive.

The most impressive thing about HL2 were the production values. Artwork, storytelling, ambience. Very 1984, very communist Eastern-European, fit the story very well. On that side of things, Valve did an excellent job.
 
2006-01-03 04:17:28 PM  
Take one look at STEAM for an example of piracy in on demand applications.

Also take a look at STEAM as something that is extremely annoying. The constant updates fix one problem and add two new problems with HL2 and CS every time. I get the impression that they don't fully test the games before they force everyone to download their updates.

One of their latest updates has been causing a C++ function call error on my Source Dedicated Server which has historically ran the thing without any problems.

Steam sucks. I guess it wouldn't suck as bad if you weren't forced to install updates that made your game run less and less efficient each time.
 
2006-01-03 04:17:51 PM  
Damn....this has incredible implications.

for example, when the great corporation war of 2007 comes around we will not be chosing between microsoft, googole and walmart anymore. It seems that google and walmart will be allied together to take out microsoft. However that means that both sides of the fight will be equally as evil.

evil.walmart == evil.microsoft

hopefully it is just google using walmart to take out microsoft, and then turing on them in the end.

/google earth will be a great place.
 
2006-01-03 04:18:17 PM  
img508.imageshack.us
I can still remember how "cutting edge" we felt when the dumb terminals were set up. To us crazy kids, TOS wuz the shiznit after years of 96 column punch cards.
 
2006-01-03 04:18:33 PM  
but in 10 years when they own the market they could screw everyone or even worse make crappy products because you
won't have a choice.


Funny how the free market works.
 
2006-01-03 04:21:16 PM  
I_am_jesus: for example, when the great corporation war of 2007 comes around we will not be chosing between microsoft, googole and walmart anymore. It seems that google and walmart will be allied together to take out microsoft. However that means that both sides of the fight will be equally as evil.


i.cnn.net
 
2006-01-03 04:21:28 PM  
A Passage To Bangkok
Steam sucks. I guess it wouldn't suck as bad if you weren't forced to install updates that made your game run less and less efficient each time.

Let me re-iterate: STEAM is just a distribution system for traditional software. Without it, the game itself would perform an update check and force you to install patches.

STEAM isn't the problem, pushing software that needs fixes out the door is.

"True" on demand would come right off the server into a cache or last for only the session, like an Ajax RIA, Flash movie or Java applet.
 
2006-01-03 04:21:28 PM  
I am sorry

Again what market is this thing targeting?

or better still

What possible are its expected features?

surfing for one. tivo or dvr maybe.

This could be huge . . .

/on second thougts . . an AOL killer
 
2006-01-03 04:21:59 PM  
pcom32
To All talking about a Dumb Box. It is the better business model.


Is it? We had it once, you know. Check your history.

Everything is cyclical. There is no "best" and no "end". We will probably move to subscription-based less-intelligent clients. Then we will move back. And so on.
 
2006-01-03 04:22:33 PM  
Can't wait to see what the Gooey looks like.
 
2006-01-03 04:23:11 PM  
No one has yet to answer the important question. Will I be able to get pr0n on it?

/got many, many kittens to kill
 
2006-01-03 04:23:19 PM  
Delphis: I think it's 'fashionable' to gripe about Walmart, especially on sites like this where people spout out anything to make themselves sound 'better' than the rest of us.

no, i think it's that Walmart is a completely shiatty company that thrives on destroying, among other things, mom & pop businesses as well as historical ( buy poor ) neighborhoods.

they bring a bunch of crummy jobs to an area. they bring the economy down for that area. they even tried to build one by the pyramids in mexico. wtf?

they've been called on it so many times and they basically just ignore it.

they suck, that's all
 
2006-01-03 04:23:53 PM  
A Passage To Bangkok: Also take a look at STEAM as something that is extremely annoying.


I tried to buy CS from a store, this was after it was out for a long time, I was playing tribes 2 and wanted to check out CS because I heard a lot about it. So I buy it, only 20 bucks or so I get home install it and the thing asks me for the serial number, I type it and it says this serial number already used so I go back to the store and exchange it and try to enter my new serial and again this serial number already used then I just returned it and got my money back,fark CS
 
2006-01-03 04:24:36 PM  
Jument
Is it? We had it once, you know. Check your history.
Now that we have the bandwidth and client/server technologies, yes, it is.

Everything is cyclical. There is no "best" and no "end".
True dat.
 
2006-01-03 04:25:40 PM  
I had to use a Mac last semester for my Digital Music class and I have to say...it was the biggest piece of absolute crap that i have ever worked on. EVER.
 
2006-01-03 04:25:59 PM  
Strangely missing from Google's keyboard will be the Delete key.
 
2006-01-03 04:26:43 PM  
Why the WalMart bashing?

I am a college student short on funds, and Wal Mart is where I can get lots of socks for $5 and a steam iron for cheaper than anywhere else.

I support Wal Mart. By shopping there.
 
2006-01-03 04:27:48 PM  
my keyboard broke
 
2006-01-03 04:28:19 PM  
pic.templetons.com

Something is going to happen.

Something wonderful.
 
2006-01-03 04:29:31 PM  
Google Cube? So that's what they're calling Etch-A-Sketches, now?

/fancy that
 
2006-01-03 04:30:20 PM  
As far as I can tell this article was all based off a few sentences in an LA Times article that were pure speculation. Don't pay too much attention. I'm not saying it's not possible he's right, only that people have been saying for years that Google was developing an OS to compete with Microsoft and it has yet to happen. Don't hold your breath, but we will know for sure in a few days.
 
2006-01-03 04:30:42 PM  
Jument
Is it? We had it once, you know. Check your history.

I do all the time ace.I wasn'y implying forever and ever without end. I am aware of cycles, thanks. I was implying in the near future, for me it's next 2 to 5 years.
Clearly, rent vs own cycles occur (witness the automotive one). It's all relative pricing. But right now, the technology is there to make the pricing feasible

get on your tricycle and scoot little boy
 
2006-01-03 04:32:05 PM  
Let me re-iterate: STEAM is just a distribution system for traditional software. Without it, the game itself would perform an update check and force you to install patches.

I understand that. But since Steam came pretty much as a vehicle for Valve to push their HL2 direct to customers and make more money I mainly associate Steam with Valve. Yes, they have put out a few new games other than Valve games recently, but to me Steam is just Valve's method of shoving glitchy software up our butts.

Yes, I guess you could say that without no Steam the program could update itself. That would just make me hate Valve. With two entities I am forced to spread the hate out which takes more work.

I still have to say that Steam sucks. Whether or not that is a valid statement who knows. I do know that I think Steam sucks.
 
2006-01-03 04:33:06 PM  
The idea of network computing - where dumb terminals connect to a network pulling down applications where necessary - has been around since the early days of the PC, but attempts to successfully pull it off have been stymied by costs and bandwidth limitations.

Someone should tell the Xwindows people. I'm sure they have no idea that they are such colossal failures.
 
2006-01-03 04:34:19 PM  
To all those drawing comparisons to the mac:

The point is to sell a cheap, no frills computer, Not an over-priced "the case has round corners and it costs more so it must be better" trend-box. Just because it's not Microsoft doesn't mean it's the same thing.
 
2006-01-03 04:36:01 PM  
No one can stop the WalMart.

Many have tried.
 
2006-01-03 04:36:38 PM  
I still have to say that Steam sucks. Whether or not that is a valid statement who knows. I do know that I think Steam sucks.

The concept of STEAM isn't bad. A single purchasing/distribution/patching system software can hook into instead of providing it's own. (Just what XBOX Live did for online gaming.)

Again, concept. The execution of STEAM was well...lacking. The question is how well does Valve learn from its mistakes? We'll find out. Bash MS all you want, but one thing they do very well is put out a product they know isn't perfect, and learn from it. I have a feeling Valve will rush out little fixes here and there instead of doing a single, organized overhaul.
 
2006-01-03 04:37:15 PM  
gweilo8888: theotherblueguy: Considering that "Download Squad" are virtually non-existent compared to even Fark, let alone slashdot or the LA Times, I highly doubt they were the source of the Slashdot story or this one. Far more likely, Slashdot got the story straight from somebody reading the LA Times, and the submitter here nicked it from Slashdot.


Holy Jumpin' Jeebus! Fark almost has the readership of the LA Times! Wow!
 
2006-01-03 04:38:32 PM  
palexc: STEAM is just a distribution system, not true on-demand.

Google + Sun = Java applets.


The point still remains the same. In the first days before retail you were allowed to get the application via software download first.

This was cracked before it was even released.

Another example is gametap. It's not widely known at the moment, but the service has been hacked and the games downloaded and rom'd for later user.

Where there is a will there is a way. Period.
 
2006-01-03 04:38:47 PM  
I'm not sure why people are complaining about Steam. It seems pretty nifty to me; if I don't want it to auto-update I just tell it which games I'd like it to leave alone. Doesn't seem to crash or hog resources... looks pretty too.

I used it to buy the other half the complete set of Valve games; he spent a day downloading and he's busy killing things in HL2... all seems to work as intended for myself and him.
 
2006-01-03 04:39:31 PM  
default_user01

yes! ha
 
2006-01-03 04:40:30 PM  
pcom32
get on your tricycle and scoot little boy


Where does this hostility come from? I wasn't being insulting, not intentionally anyways.

If you read your post you don't even imply any knowledge of the history of the industry or any such thing so please excuse me for mentioning it.
 
2006-01-03 04:40:33 PM  
I have a feeling Valve will rush out little fixes here and there instead of doing a single, organized overhaul.

That's just the thing though. The more little fixes they rush out, the more problems they create. HL2 runs less efficiently on my computer now and CSS seems to stutter now and it never did before. With my Source Dedicated Server crashing with C++ errors (should never happen in a commercially released product) I can't help but laugh at Valve and ultimately myself for believing in them.

I'll always remember my first playthrough of HL2 I guess. It was great, but I doubt they will fix the problems. They already have everyone's money.
 
2006-01-03 04:41:07 PM  
Everyone calls WMT the evil empire, but as near as I can tell Google is as much a "crush the enemy" company as Microsoft, Wal-Mart, and big oil.

Not sure why google is the good guy in all this.

I call bullshiat on this though. It seems so far from their core compentency.

There is no money in hardware.

Google aims to make itself the gears of the internet in areas with lots of growth. Either by taking old profitable ideas (classified advertising) or newer ideas (online advertising).

I think Google Maps is VERY interesting. Release the tool for free. People will customize it for their own purposes and pay Google a fee.

Real estate is perfect. Too perfect in fact. Package tracking. Visual display of demographic areas. Community planning. Etc.

Release the platform, and let others build the tools for you.

A company whose best developers do the work for you is gonna do well.
 
2006-01-03 04:41:52 PM  
Well, I think it may be Linux based. I've been expecting this for months.

Email/gmail client
Firefox browser
Blogger integration

Thumbs up from me. Throw in .goo domain names and I'm in love.

Google's trump card is that so many people view them as one of the most benevolent organisations in the world. This counts for a whole lot.

What would make sense isn't a "Google OS", but an appliance that hooks into Google's service. Gmail, Google Talk, and maybe running a browser. That's it, nothing else. No true "OS" to install applications into. Just an internet appliance.

That's a smart one. All the bits are there. We aren't far from being able to be os independent anyhow. This thing could have all flash memory which runs a simple framework os which then relies on the net for functionality. Even Google Base could store much of users stuff online. I'd rather
 
2006-01-03 04:41:52 PM  
Just to add to the pictures:

www.petebevin.com
 
2006-01-03 04:42:05 PM  
macedon: I am a college student short on funds, and Wal Mart is where I can get lots of socks for $5 and a steam iron for cheaper than anywhere else.


Let me know how long that iron lasts you, meaning later in the thread tell me it's broken.

My wife and I actually began keeping an eye on things in our home which came from Wal-Mart, and what we saw was infuriating. Everything from plastic kitchenware to a DVD player to a vacuum. All in the trash less than two years after they were purchased.

Wal-Mart will actually coach manufacturers on how to make a crappy product which is cheap. This actually works to their advantage, because the stupid masses seem to think that it's cheap, even if y ou have to buy it three times. Brilliant!
 
2006-01-03 04:42:45 PM  
nuclear_asshat
Everyone calls WMT the evil empire, but as near as I can tell Google is as much a "crush the enemy" company as Microsoft, Wal-Mart, and big oil.


Google tells us they will do no harm so you just leave them alone. They aren't evil! The fact that they have billions of dollars and intend to destroy their competition is not important.

/sarcasm
 
2006-01-03 04:44:44 PM  
Didn't google just merge with AOL? Will this cube come with AOL? If so I won't have to update my email. I need a cheap computer for my home business.
 
2006-01-03 04:44:54 PM  
Jument

"check your history" sounded a little condescending. I know very little about the industry per se. Let's just say I'm a student of the big picture.
That said, I apologize if your intentions were friendly.
 
2006-01-03 04:45:19 PM  
macedon

Why the WalMart bashing?


Walmart is bad for America. Period. Maybe if they used 20-40% American products is would be absolutely better for the country and possibly the local economy's. But they've certainly done everything they can to unsure they alone make huge profits.

On the other hand, I did some Christmas shopping there. I certainly consider a guilty pleasure because the prices are great, I just feel like Im kicking some poor blue collar worker in the gut.

America must agree as well because they're stock price should be orbital... like google, but then look at MS so who knows.

/ramble.
//Ask wife- I complain about Walmart all the time.
///Still being jibbed for X-Mas shopping there.
 
2006-01-03 04:45:52 PM  
IdBeCrazyIf
The point still remains the same. In the first days before retail you were allowed to get the application via software download first.

Er, not entirely. Steam just sent you a traditional application you installed and ran locally.

An applet could force itself not to cache, an Ajax RIA only exists during the session in the browser and comes straight from the server. Logic could be run from webservices. The distributor holds and controls it.
 
2006-01-03 04:46:01 PM  
I hated Walmart long before hating Walmart was cool.
 
2006-01-03 04:46:24 PM  
whorehopper

So far, everything has been working fine. Maybe I am just lucky.
 
2006-01-03 04:47:23 PM  
pcom32, fair enough. Group hug time!

/feel the love!
//now let's go kill the heart of Walmart!
 
2006-01-03 04:47:25 PM  
I can't help but laugh at Valve and ultimately myself for believing in them.

Valve has brilliant people with terrible management. Ce la vie.
 
2006-01-03 04:48:33 PM  
There is no money in hardware.

Google specialises in providing free services which generate revenue. There is no money in hardware - true but other companies with less acumen than Google make money from it so why not? I can't see a negative. Cheap kit, more competition, more choice. If you don't like it don't buy it.

I personally don't think they're after Microsoft's share yet. They may be after Apple's though...
 
2006-01-03 04:49:41 PM  
Release the platform, and let others build the tools for you.

You don't want to see the cost of a Google Earth Enterprise Server.

I have a friend who does GIS professionally, the tools in the field are outdated. He's been salivating at the free version of Google Earth for months.

Trust me, they're way ahead of you.
 
2006-01-03 04:49:43 PM  
5uperman : Didn't google just merge with AOL?

I saw a question in a previous thread about the enlightened ones who know all. couldnt beleive it would be some1 on fark.
 
2006-01-03 04:50:33 PM  
Hey Lone_Gunman- Maybe if GM used 20-40% US products their stock wouldn't be in the crapper. But since a Toyota has more US parts and is made better... you've already heard this I'm sure.
 
2006-01-03 04:51:05 PM  
whorehopper: My wife and I actually began keeping an eye on things in our home which came from Wal-Mart, and what we saw was infuriating. Everything from plastic kitchenware to a DVD player to a vacuum. All in the trash less than two years after they were purchased.

I purchase a digital camera there. A Nikon Coolpix D50. All together I saved 40 dollars because it was less than everyone else in town, and when set against shipping was also less then online.

So your telling me that the D50 I purchased is somehow inferior to other D50's because it was purchased at Walmart?

hogwash... reaserch the products you purchase in advance and you won't have any issues.
 
2006-01-03 04:51:25 PM  
That sound you just heard.......


It was BillG crapping his pants.
 
2006-01-03 04:51:30 PM  
"Google Maps is the best"
"True Dat!"
members.cox.net
 
2006-01-03 04:51:34 PM  
When I was growing up, my hometown had two bakeries on Main St, three grocery stores and a fabulous butcher shop. Now it has Super Walmart and that's it. Main St is dead. Choice is gone.
 
2006-01-03 04:51:45 PM  
whorehopper

I would sadly have to agree with that. You get what you pay for.

Really for me it is the Wal-Mart experience that I hate. If you ignore all the bad reports that have come out about Wal-Mart and just look at it as a place to shop, it kind of sucks. The last few times I went there, it was just mass chaos. I am not saying that people that shop at Wal-Mart have no manners, but, ok yeah I am.

I would rather spend the extra money to get a higher quality product and not have a fat woman run me over with her shopping cart and 7 kids.
 
2006-01-03 04:52:06 PM  
I personally don't think they're after Microsoft's share yet. They may be after Apple's though...

I disagree. Apple brings high-tech to the masses. While the OS may be billed as "easier to use", they're still fully-functional multi-purpose machines, and the software requires a decent amount of hardware behind it. They're also not cheap.

The consensus seems to be that Google will bring basic internet to the low-cost and non-savvy masses. Much more specific in scope and not really treading on Apple's toes.
 
2006-01-03 04:52:22 PM  
macedon: I am a college student short on funds, and Wal Mart is where I can get lots of socks for $5 and a steam iron for cheaper than anywhere else.


man, you need to learn what a Marshall's or TJMax store is all about.
 
2006-01-03 04:53:24 PM  
Wal-Mart sucks!
Apple is king!
Microsoft is evil!

There, am I cool now too?

Idiots
 
2006-01-03 04:53:35 PM  
alfredromeo: Something is going to happen.

Something wonderful.



LOL. Nice!
 
2006-01-03 04:53:40 PM  
Wal-Mart will actually coach manufacturers on how to make a crappy product which is cheap.


Give use ONE supporting refrence for this. That sounds completley made up.
 
2006-01-03 04:53:46 PM  
It was BillG crapping his pants.

Bill Gates will not soil himself until Google starts taking away enterprise servers, back office and desktops.
 
2006-01-03 04:54:26 PM  
Wal-Mart sucks!
Apple is king!
Microsoft is evil!

There, am I cool now too?

Idiots


Nah, Apple sucks too. Nice try though :)
 
2006-01-03 04:55:24 PM  
I hope this forces Microsoft to follow up with a cheap computer too. That way it benefits the consumer with lower prices. (Walmart does the same thing, but I guess lower prices only matter to unprincipled poor folks).

I would rather buy a Microsoft product because a lot of the procedes go to the Gates foundation, which helps fight poorness in Africa. I like my money to make a difference.
 
2006-01-03 04:55:41 PM  
Long story short, work it in with a pvr service with some content delivery, and people will do very well. I gladly pay 10 bucks a month or so for my TiVO, and yes, i know i could easily build something just as good, if not better, that would work with free service, but the fact that Tivo is so slick and requires nothing out of me to make it work makes it worth the small fee.

If I can add some additional features, keep a nice slick interface, and pay about the same, I would happily buy something like this. The biggest things I would like to see:

1. Better integration with digital rights stuff on my pc. For instance, I have napster to go, so have about 15 gigs of music on my pc and Dell DJ that I have a license for. While Tivo will play MP3's off my pc, it will not play ones with digital rights assigned to them (even though I am licensed for 3 devices)

2. Easier manipulation of programs, in terms of burning to a DVD, etc. Yea, I know I can buy a DVD burner enabled TiVO, so this is a big one. If it is a PVR it must allow for me to easily (and quickly) burn recorded content to media. If you have to include rights management stuff on it so I don't pass it around, fine, but make it easy to do and quick.

3. Ability to dump content quickly to something like a video ipod. I don't personally have one myself, nor really see myself buying one any time soon, but for the people who do have one, I think it would be nifty.

4. Throw a real game console on it. Even if the thing only played games equivalent in quality to the original playstation, but you could access them cheaply and online, there would be a market for it.

5. Find some kind of balance (probably the hardest thing to do) between a web-tv like browser, which is great in the sense that it won't get screwed up, bombarded with spyware, etc, by a dumb user, with a full featured Firefox/IE like browser that works well on all web pages.
 
2006-01-03 04:56:08 PM  
Google Cube sounds awesome but will it have a zero-point turning radius like the Segway?

www.cs.umass.edu
 
2006-01-03 04:58:22 PM  
I disagree. Apple brings high-tech to the masses. While the OS may be billed as "easier to use", they're still fully-functional multi-purpose machines, and the software requires a decent amount of hardware behind it. They're also not cheap.

The consensus seems to be that Google will bring basic internet to the low-cost and non-savvy masses. Much more specific in scope and not really treading on Apple's toes.


Good point but I was thinking this was an entry level shot at the mac mini. Where they go from there is anyone's guess.
 
2006-01-03 04:59:13 PM  
Obviously this GOOGLE CUBE will come complete with ULTRAPORN .

ULTRAPORN is a sophisticated pleasure-responsed dynamic real-time filtering system which uses infrared body temperature fluxuations with optical response pupil dilation to firstly identify the specific porn which will arouse the viewer then refine the selection then computer model simulate the actions to bring about the most intense orgasm. These dynamic responses change everytime the user initiates an ULTRAPORN session so ULTRAPORN has to be dynamic to meet the many varied demands of the client.

For example... TEST SUBJECT 32-year-old [name withheld for legal reasons] housewife never expected ULTRAPORN to classify that at 8:37 PM on September 7th, 2005 that she'd require 5 babies spanking a dog with corncobs while peacocks juggled golden eggs in the background, but that was precisely the image which brought her to sudden explosive climax 19 seconds later.

Needless to say, that image would never work precisely the same way for her again because all humans grow jaded over their simulated sex entertainment and desire ever-more-perverse stimulus as they age.

However, whatever insane perverse fantasy is required, the ULTRAPORN system will always be ready and perfectly able to create an intense orgasm in under 30 seconds [statistically proven for 100% of all test subjects with 85% reaching orgasm in 14 seconds].
 
2006-01-03 04:59:24 PM  
DirkValentine

Dollar General too. That store amazes me.
 
2006-01-03 05:00:05 PM  
Don't worry about it, pretty soon we'll be getting all our sustenance exclusively from Taco Bell!

www.propstore.com
 
2006-01-03 05:01:20 PM  
But does it run Linux?

/HA HA! You've been slashdotted!
 
2006-01-03 05:02:47 PM  
Good point but I was thinking this was an entry level shot at the mac mini. Where they go from there is anyone's guess.

The Mac Mini is entry-level for Apple, not entry-level for everyone. The base model is still $500 without a keyboard and mouse, and it's plenty powerful for more than just surfing the web. It's entry level for someone who wants an iPod and uses their digital camera a lot. (I actually kinda miss mine since I got rid of it.)

I still think it's a different audience than the $200 WalMart internet crowd. Again, think appliance, not computer.
 
2006-01-03 05:03:46 PM  
On a related note - Gates' vision is a PC in every home. It seems that this machine will do that better than his currently do.
 
2006-01-03 05:06:38 PM  
There is a Walmart close to us that we call the "apocalypse Walmart" because it is a fairly accurate version of what it will be like durring the apocalypse with people just pulling what is left off the shelves, ramming carts into each other, no staff to assist the looting, and no cashiers....

/We went once
 
2006-01-03 05:07:03 PM  
matrix29: Obviously this GOOGLE CUBE will come complete with ULTRAPORN .


And the pornzilla browser...
http://www.squarefree.com/pornzilla/
 
2006-01-03 05:10:37 PM  
meekychuppet: There is no money in hardware - true but other companies with less acumen than Google make money from it so why not? I can't see a negative. Cheap kit, more competition, more choice. If you don't like it don't buy it.

I am a google shareholder, so it definitely matter to me. Gross margins are important. Why abandon your web services which generate 20-35% margins to go into hardware which generates 3-5% margins?

This PC rumor is total bullshiat.

IF it is true? I am unloading GOOG as soon as it's confirmed.

GOOG would be better served at an online office suite than farking around with hardware.
 
2006-01-03 05:11:04 PM  
Disposable computers: the next generation.
 
2006-01-03 05:11:48 PM  
Not to be too pessimistic but Wal-Mart's push to its manufacturers in making products more and more cheap explains a lot regarding the kind of quality you get when you're able to buy a 64" plasma for 6.78.

I don't shop Wal-Mart for a lot of reasons but when you're dictating the price at which you're willing to do business with a manufacturer because everyone wants in to the party and because you want to be the low-cost leader then I'll buy where quality comes first before strong-arm sales tactics. Fine, be the super capitalist mega corporation which proves free markets work, I don't begrudge them that, but the way they're going about it just makes me want to buy elsewhere.
 
2006-01-03 05:12:41 PM  
2006-01-03 04:12:09 PM hrricne

Hmmm, Google openly doing buisness with the anti-labor Walmart?....Guess I'll be switching to yahoo.


Kind of like the nice girl that hooks up with the sexy bad boyfriend that's an abusive jerk. Oh she thinks she can change him by bringing her sweetness and wisdom into his life (the she'll know just how to fix poor crazy daddy).

Ten years later, she's pregnate again the house is filthy, he's biatching about the dinner not being ready and she's feeling suicidal...
 
2006-01-03 05:13:34 PM  
I love google and hate walmart

just check out the frontline episode. Walmart makes me sick and I cannot even look at the place.
 
2006-01-03 05:17:20 PM  
Between this and AOL, this is why there are so many morons out there who "have the internet" and really shouldn't.
 
2006-01-03 05:18:02 PM  
methinks there should be a poll of how many farkers hate walmart vs love it. next we should have one of how many shop at walmart vs those who dont.

results i feel will be interesting
 
2006-01-03 05:37:09 PM  
I really need a cheap PC, but I also vowed to never buy a thing from Wal-Mart ever.

Yeah, but then they started selling Firefly for $20 and I went to the dark side.
 
2006-01-03 05:40:48 PM  
I personally am ready to join our google overlords


And join their army
 
2006-01-03 05:41:03 PM  
ani23: methinks there should be a poll of how many farkers hate walmart vs love it. next we should have one of how many shop at walmart vs those who dont.

results i feel will be interesting


I hate wal-mart. I also shop there. For the moment, I also work there, though I'm actively seeking another job. (Hey, my previous job was even worse, and I needed a job to pay off my tuition...which this does. It sucks, but it pays the bills).

The ONLY reason I shop there currently is b/c my employee discount helps offset the ridiculous sales tax (9.25%) in my area.
 
2006-01-03 05:41:19 PM  
Google is going to make microsoft look dare I say, Christ like.
 
2006-01-03 05:48:36 PM  
Ok, my friend and I are having an argument. I think the internet is stored in many locations, and he thinks it's one big server in like Washington or Colorado.

/typed it on a mac.
 
2006-01-03 05:50:10 PM  
tarkhuna: Ok, my friend and I are having an argument. I think the internet is stored in many locations, and he thinks it's one big server in like Washington or Colorado.

Your friend is an idiot. Kill him, and enhamce the gene pool with his absence.

/what?
//cranky
 
2006-01-03 05:50:52 PM  
then you must slay me for forgetting to spell-check my post calling someone else an idiot.
 
2006-01-03 05:52:54 PM  

But with Google shares trading at $415, valuing the company northwards of $123bn, short-term returns are likely to be low down a list of priorities should the predictions turn out to be true.


Why didn't I buy stock when they went public?!

/hangs self
 
2006-01-03 05:54:06 PM  
abclocal.go.com
More on where the internets is stored at 11.
 
2006-01-03 05:55:30 PM  
I just realized how crappy this will be...

A $200 computer in Walmart will likely be extremely popular with the computer-illiterate. Because they wouldn't know what an operating system is if one attacked them, they won't realize that it isn't a Windows box until it's too late. Then, you have droves of noobs confused by a new OS, who all turn to geeks to solve their problems...

Meaning that I have to learn another OS.

Can't you let a man and his confused gropings in bash be?!

/rm ~/hope -r, I think
 
2006-01-03 05:59:33 PM  
IdBeCrazyIf: So your telling me that the D50 I purchased is somehow inferior to other D50's because it was purchased at Walmart?

hogwash... reaserch the products you purchase in advance and you won't have any issues.



Research plastic kitchenware? Maybe if I had, I would have learned beforehand that the pigments the Chicom uses in non-structural plastics makes them very brittle and quick to break down under UV.

And how do you research a new product for long term reliability?

Did you know that some manufacturers actually do manufacture two distinctly versions of the same product - one for big-boxes and one for elsewhere? The Dewalt tools sold in Home Depots several years ago serve as a perfect example. Identical circular saws, one sold in HD, one through other channels. Nothing more than a -1 or something on the model number to tell the two apart. Until you opened up the HD Dewalt saw and found a very cheap Black and Decker motor inside.

Sure, some things, like the camera you mentioned, might be immune, but the fact is that the Wal-Mart buyers dictate the terms - they dictate the price point. They even offer advice to manufacturers on how to cheapen the product.

And they don't care. Because they know that no matter how bad it gets, hordes of morans will show up the next day to buy more.

We replaced our Wal-Mart vacuum (1 year lifespan) with a real one purchased froma vacuum cleaner dealer. That was three or four years ago, for the same money.
 
2006-01-03 06:00:25 PM  
Here's a sneak peek of the system, it's built into a futuristic display device. A pair of Walmartians recently were treated to a preview:

img.photobucket.com
 
2006-01-03 06:06:46 PM  
I stopped shopping at Wal-Mart about 6 years ago.

I never really noticed a price difference between things I bought there and things I bought in other stores. Their only advantage, in my opinion, is that they had everything under one roof.

With Tarjet, however, I have all of the convenience, coupled with low prices, cleaner stores, friendlier employees, and an overall better class of customers.

When/If it comes out that Tarjet is engaging in the same types of unethical bullshiat that Wal-Mart does, I'll shop somewhere else.
 
2006-01-03 06:11:25 PM  
Didn't Larry Ellison of Oracle unveil this same concept about a decade ago? Remember the slogan "the network is the computer"?
 
2006-01-03 06:17:23 PM  
I am a google shareholder, so it definitely matter to me

Well this is all part of the risk.

I still think it's a good idea even if you are panicking about losing money.
 
2006-01-03 06:20:33 PM  
Google needs to link up with Target not Wal-Mart. Target has cheap prices, decent products, they don't abuse their employees (at least to my knowledge) and it has a much more favorable public image than Wal-Mart.
 
2006-01-03 06:23:19 PM  
WTF??? Google and WALMART? Whatever happened to "don't be evil"?
 
2006-01-03 06:24:35 PM  
More like Google Pube.

teehee
 
2006-01-03 06:25:06 PM  
What's wally world going to say when the #1 use of this thing will be to download porn?
 
2006-01-03 06:25:09 PM  
tarkhuna

Ok, my friend and I are having an argument. I think the internet is stored in many locations, and he thinks it's one big server in like Washington or Colorado.

/typed it on a mac.


You are both idiots. I downlisted the internets to my Packard Bell and now I ONWS it all!! WHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!@H!H@AH#
 
2006-01-03 06:26:49 PM  
ZzeusS: Why didn't I buy stock when they went public?!

/hangs self


---

If I'm not mistaken, it wasn't easy. Either you had to be on a list, or you had to be lucky, like buying Super Bowl tickets.
 
2006-01-03 06:27:59 PM  
I prefer shopping at target because the women shoppers are slimmer, wear tasteful clothes and are just in general more hot than bovines that general frequent wally world.

That said, this cheap internet PC will fit in nice with their internet, java driven office suite.
 
2006-01-03 06:33:30 PM  
El_chip

Spell Wal-Mart backwards and you get Tram Law...discuss..
 
2006-01-03 06:33:35 PM  
As a realist, I bet this is crap. They have been saying that Google is going to unveil a linux-based operating system for YEARS. As they said in the article: "We don't respond to rumors"

As a linux advocate, I bet this is true. What a freaking sweet way to show people how awesome open-source software is by putting a trusted corporate logo behind it, getting all the user-infriendly stuff out and training masses in it. They could also REALLY piss off M$ in the process, which is exactly what I would do if I was a computer-geek turned CEO of a multi-billion dollar media company.

/Prays for Debian-based Google OS
//Knows that M$ will crush them in the end.
 
2006-01-03 06:36:00 PM  
SchlingFo

You're kidding, right? As a former Target employee, let me tell you: Same S***, different bull.

Longest 3 months of my life. (Feb '00 to May '00) They don't (didn't, if this is outdated) pay much more ($0.05 IIRC) than minimum wage, they gave 20 hours a week IF YOU ARE LUCKY (I varied between 16 and 20), the management comes down hard on anyone other than themselves that steals (I told my manager about a problem with a certain area a few days before quitting; found out a month later she "never heard" about it before) ... oh yeah, and if you decide to go home after working 4 hours overtime (i.e. an 8 hour day) they complain (it was the only blemish on my record when they gave me my 90 day review. Of course, I turned in notice right afterward anyway, but still...) ...

Oh yeah, and they open their vic.. I mean employees ... to mocking. It's been 5 years and my wife still makes wisecracks about how I'm a "Backdoor Bulldog" (backroom bulldog is a reward given to the employees of the fastest store in the area IIRC)
 
2006-01-03 06:36:51 PM  
Amazing! I've read this entire thread and up to this point no one has blamed GW Bush for anything.

/Thought that blaming bush for something in every thread was a Fark requirement.
 
2006-01-03 06:45:48 PM  
Didn't Larry Ellison of Oracle unveil this same concept about a decade ago? Remember the slogan "the network is the computer"?

The network was 10 megabit back then. ;-)

We're actually at a point now where the idea is feasible. Blade servers, for one, are being looked at as a sharable resource for workgroups.

Oracle's grid server strategy is along the lines of his original thinking though.
 
2006-01-03 06:48:07 PM  
If you don't buy the google cube, the terrorists win
 
2006-01-03 06:54:40 PM  
I wonder if the google boxen will have some sort of licensing thing that says they're used to index and crunch data for google...

so like, google can distribute its indexing capabilities and get other people to pay for it.

It's what I would do... were I looking to take over the world...
 
2006-01-03 07:00:42 PM  
"Love Macs and love Google, though sometimes they don't really work well togehter. Bill Gates is pretty cool giving his $$$ away to help end poverty, but his company is just sitting on their butts not releasing anything interesting.

It's like they gave up after XP. Yeah, I know VISTA is on it's way, but BY YEARS END?!?!

Let's make this thread flameoroonilicious!"

Where is my mac tablet PC? Oh yah, they don't farking have one! Oh what about linux? Nope, not shiat from them either (and no, the nokia POS doesn't count).

When are Apple and linux going to catch up and release a tablet PC?
 
2006-01-03 07:04:01 PM  
images.google.com
 
2006-01-03 07:26:06 PM  
To all those who think Google doesn't know hardware...

How do you think all those spiffy services they provide run so efficiently?

They don't buy premade computers - they have devised a system where they can buy very cheap computer parts in huge quantities and create servers which are infinitely expandable. They have found through experimentation that many cheap servers work much better than a few expensive servers, and no one computer is ever critical to system uptime when all machines running the show are cheap and easily replacable.

Hmmm....sounds like the kind of expertise that would allow one to make a cheap consumer network computer, doesn't it?
 
2006-01-03 07:26:59 PM  
Anyone remember when Microsoft rivals Oracle, Sun, and Netscape came together to create a Microsoft-Killer named the Network Computer that was going to run Microsoft out of business and take over the market?

Like the Google Cube, it lacked a hard drive, floppy, etc and stored everything on a network accessed over the Internet.

Hey anyone remember the home computer wars of the 1980's when Atari and Commodore took out Radio Shack, Texas Instruments, and many others. Then IBM made the PCjr to compete with it, Coleco made the Adam, the Mattel Intelivison had a keyboard, and then finally Apple made the Apple //c but it cost too much. Atari and Commodore ruled with an under $200USD console, but everything else was optional to add on to it. Then the Macintosh came out and so did Windows. Atari made the ST/TT/Falcon, and Commodore made the Amiga series, and both got killed by Apple and Microsoft. Why? Because they could not innovate to keep up with the new PC and Mac technology that finally outpaced them. The PC and Mac also passed them up in software support.

My point, even if this Google Cube takes off, Microsoft and Apple will just innovate to beat it.

I can see a $200 PC console from Microsoft based on Windows CE or WebTV/MSNTV, I can also see a $200 Mactel console based on the X86 version of Darwin (With an option to buy a version of OSX for it later to upgrade). Guess which ones will have more software support? Not the Google Cube, unless it runs Linux or something. If it runs Google OS or whatever, it will lack the needed applications and suck very badly.

BTW, Google has tons of ads it can use to paste into the Google Cube. So apparently the killer app for the Google Cube is adware/spyware built right into it, no need to get infected.
 
2006-01-03 07:37:34 PM  
I hate Wal Mart because there are 40 checkout lines and only 2 burned out, overworked and underpaid checkout ladies everytime I go there.
 
2006-01-03 07:42:47 PM  
IdBeCrazyIf: Why would someone dish out $200 for a google cube? Someone at google needs to get fired.


And this person would be the same guy that bought up all that dark fiber. They should fire him?

Here's what is up. You probably should think just a little beyond what you (most of you anyway) use your computer for today.

Years back, SUN proclaimed that "The Network is the Computer" or something along those lines.

They were partly correct. They thought it would be SUN computers that made up that network. Well, they were wrong about whose computers, but the concept is still in play. (Bye bye sun....)

Now we have Google. They have been feverishly investing in what could turn out to be an incredible Internet backbone (dark fiber, anyone) and have demonstrated that they can deploy large applications over the web. (GMail, anyone?)

Now they want to put a little box in everybody's house that will do stupid stuff like, oh, I dunno: Just about everything that anybody does on the Internet today, perhaps?

And distribute media that nobody needs, like - perhaps - television content? Nobody wants that, right? Oh, wait. Everybody does. And they'll pay 100 bucks a month for Internet and TV.

Now Google is involved with some VOIP crap, I'm sure. And they are planning on deploying Wireless Internet in SanFran. How much are they going to charge for that? What? It's gonna be free? (At least get tested that way)

Crap. Now Google could do something like give me Internet access, web-based applications like Gmail and Google Office, Broadcast TV, HBO, PPV, Free long distance....

And they can do it without using a millimeter of the ILEC's copper to my door. No Microsoft Tax. No Time Warner.

No viruses. No Antivirus software.

Just a box that costs 200 bucks. And they'll probably give that away for free, since they'll be able to make that money back in about 3 months.


What a stupid idea.
 
2006-01-03 07:49:52 PM  
2006-01-03 03:40:18 PM Jument

palexc
You have kids? You have a kitchen? 1 less appliance taking up space...

You have room for a couch in front of your fridge? Cuz I don't...


Then you need a bigger porch.
 
2006-01-03 08:05:42 PM  
Walmart sux

I don't shop at Walmart and I don't kiss the boys that do.
 
2006-01-03 08:07:25 PM  
whorehopper: Let me know how long that iron lasts you, meaning later in the thread tell me it's broken.

My wife and I actually began keeping an eye on things in our home which came from Wal-Mart, and what we saw was infuriating. Everything from plastic kitchenware to a DVD player to a vacuum. All in the trash less than two years after they were purchased.

Wal-Mart will actually coach manufacturers on how to make a crappy product which is cheap. This actually works to their advantage, because the stupid masses seem to think that it's cheap, even if y ou have to buy it three times. Brilliant!


Amen to that.

"Costs the least" does NOT mean "the thrifty choice."

For food, Wal-Mart might sell the same brands as other places (although, how is the fresh food? I don't shop there so don't know), but when it comes to non-food items? Clothes, kitchen items, hardware? Crap.

/spend a bit more, buy it ONCE, and be DONE with it
 
2006-01-03 08:07:34 PM  
But can it run DOOM?
 
2006-01-03 08:08:07 PM  
balloot: They have found through experimentation that many cheap servers work much better than a few expensive servers, and no one computer is ever critical to system uptime when all machines running the show are cheap and easily replacable.

Hmmm....sounds like the kind of expertise that would allow one to make a cheap consumer network computer, doesn't it?


---

More like several cheap computers networked together to serve as a reliable, medium-to-expensive consumer computer.
 
2006-01-03 08:11:15 PM  
Danger Mouse Coudl you explain "Dumb terminals" a bit more?

Terry Schiavo.

/Thanks for playing
//This slash soon to be owened by Google
 
2006-01-03 08:11:42 PM  
i20.photobucket.com
/burns
 
2006-01-03 08:27:23 PM  
I know it is late in the thread but if you want inexpensive computers and parts: www.pricewatch.com
/not affliated
 
2006-01-03 08:33:35 PM  
DrToast

You know, nothing will piss away a good reputation of a brand name than selling its products at Wal-Mart.



QFT.

/'nuff said
 
2006-01-03 08:46:20 PM  
whorehopper: My wife and I actually began keeping an eye on things in our home which came from Wal-Mart, and what we saw was infuriating. Everything from plastic kitchenware to a DVD player to a vacuum. All in the trash less than two years after they were purchased.

Same experience here. Being poor is all about taking shiatty deals to survive from week to week. If you're poor, the world has you by the balls, and you end up getting the most expensive financing, the most expensive cars (when you factor in mileage and maintenance), the most expensive appliances (when you factor in how long they last), and the most expensive food (when you factor in the impact on your health and the impact of a huge lard-gut on your earning power). The fact that your stuff sucks as well as being expensive just adds insult to injury.

Proof: Look how long Chevrolet was able to keep selling the Cavalier. For a few thousand extra bucks, you could get a Honda Civic and probably save thousands in the long run. Just because Chevy priced the Cavalier a perceptible peg lower, they were able to sell it to a bunch of desperate people who needed a car right away and couldn't afford the option that would be ultimately cheaper. (Or maybe they couldn't afford fifteen bucks for the Consumer Reports auto issue and the Kelley Blue Book.)

I've said here before that I get more use for my dollar from the Container Store than from Wal-Mart, and I stand by that.
 
2006-01-03 08:46:59 PM  
rumor

Blog by the director of PR at Google:

http://www.kraneland.com/2006/01/google-cube-google-pc.html
 
2006-01-03 08:51:38 PM  
Liche: This was on /. earlier, and as others said this is just speculation. Google doesn't have the capability to release an OS by 2006 unless they're going to piggyback on an already-there option.


In an article fark linked to earlier this year, it was speculated that Google was working on an OS. I remember all the M$ people instantly freaked out and celebrated, while the Linux people were cautious. So yeah - there were burbles and rumors earlier. We also don't know who picthed the idea to them, or if it came from in house. Remember when that silly Google future flash thing came out everybody watched? It was in there I think.

The speculation was that Google is intensely serious about taking over, and this is one way to do it.
 
2006-01-03 08:56:29 PM  
Just another urban myth. Thank GOD. I would imagine Google would not waste their money on a sucker like this anyway. But if you call "Blue Hippo" you can get a PC with NO credit, plus a multifunction printer and brand new digital camera.....
 
2006-01-03 09:03:55 PM  
Wal-Mart is also misleading in there "Insanely Low Prices". They have a pricepoint (i.e. A $25 Microwave in the appliance section), that is crappy quality but use it to get you in the area, looking at other microwaves. Compare the prices of the other microwaves in the section, and often times they are overpriced. And of course its not just microwaves, just throwing an example out there.
 
2006-01-03 09:27:01 PM  
It's not about Linux, or any other OS. It's not about running Doom, or any other game. It's not about surfing the net (well, maybe a little teeny bit). It's certainly not about running Excel, Word, or any other program, MS or not.

It's about the 50-70 year old retiree that has had no computer experience at all. They have one goal in mind.

That goal: To receive, view, and print pictures of their grandkids, and email them whenever they want, with no fuss and a super simple interface. The less point and click, the better. Give the cube one USB jack for the folks that can figure out a digital camera and call it good. Those that need more capabilities will upgrade. Those that don't will happily pay $10, 20, 30 or 49.99 per month. Juat to stay in contact with their family that moved away from Bumfark, Idaho to the nearest big city.

$200 is just right. I will not be buying one, but I will be investing in Google.
 
2006-01-03 09:30:51 PM  
quickdraw

That only works if you are cute.
 
2006-01-03 09:50:26 PM  
2006-01-03 03:09:39 PM Contrabulous Flabtraption

"IRelayer: Google and Wal-Mart? Isn't that kind of like oil and water?

Not at all, they're both the very best at what they do, which, as it happens, is providing customers with what they want."

I'm assuming he was referring to the fact that they do so at opposite ends of the ethical spectrum.
 
2006-01-03 09:56:36 PM  
Thanks to broadband and other tech advances in the past 5 years a network computer is more realistic these days. When I first heard of it years ago I dismissed it but now it seems very possible and now so many people have everything online from media storage, e-mail and tools. So a NC for grandma or poor families is a great thing.

Of course I hate the idea SUN is anywhere near it.
 
2006-01-03 10:23:47 PM  
I thought Google's motto was "Don't Be Evil"... why would they partner with retail's Evil Empire?

/would seriously rethink that GMail account if this turns out to be true...
 
2006-01-03 10:27:09 PM  
Possibly a mini-itx or nano-itx with BIOS OS? It's been done before.

If it's under $US200 then will it require a TV?

Your grampa wants pr0n
 
2006-01-03 10:33:10 PM  
Do you really need a complex OS if all your wanting to do is run something like Firefox?

I already have a fully loaded PC and a work-provided laptop. The former is more than I need for most things. I like the portability of the latter, but because it belongs to the employer, I have to be careful where I surf, post, etc.

I'd love a really cheap laptop where I could simply surf the net, check/send email, etc. from anywhere around the house via WiFi. The reality is, however, that most basic laptops are in the $500-900 range. I'm sure there are some great deals, etc. for those in the know, but it's rare to find a retail store or mainstream company (Dell, etc) selling simple, portable web surfing products akin to the laptop experience.

On the flip side, there are web enabled phones, blackberry's, etc. that are cheaper than laptops, but those aren't as comfy to use compared with devices with a bigger screen and keyboard.

There's merit in this story because there's a tweener market. Example: We (bro, sis, me and their kids) all went to stay at my parent's house for the holidays. Not that long ago we used to fight over who could use the spare phone line to dial in and check email. Then mom got broadband to her computer and we used to fight for time on that device. Then mom got WiFi and all were content using their own laptops to connect to the net. And there's the rub. 3 iMac and 2 PC laptop users were all able to get online and do their thing. But I'm guessing that's nearly $7,000 worth of hardware being used to check email and pop by fark.com. If there were decent portables in the $200 range, we could have done the same thing and left the serious hardware at home.

Apple is making a mint by selling a relatively simple device (iPod) that is integrated to a relatively simple service (iTunes). Sure, the savvy out there know how to get more bang for less buck but we're talking mass marketing.

If Google came out with a relatively simple device that does little more than connect people to Google - then they can start printing even more money... and they don't even have to charge consumers for the product, unlike iTunes.
 
2006-01-03 10:34:27 PM  
I ONLY shop at Wal Mart. Everything is so cheap and they employ everybody in my small town. God bless them.
 
2006-01-03 10:37:36 PM  
HeartBurnKid: /would seriously rethink that GMail account if this turns out to be true...

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When Google goes under, Wal-Mart will buy them out, and will be in custody of all your Gmail, contents indexed for Google Ads already. You'll get the updated privacy policy in your inbox, but by then all of your info will have gone overseas to the lowest bidder. Won't that be great?
 
2006-01-03 10:41:03 PM  
grackle

Same experience here. Being poor is all about taking shiatty deals to survive from week to week. If you're poor, the world has you by the balls, and you end up getting the most expensive .......and the most expensive food (when you factor in the impact on your health and the impact of a huge lard-gut on your earning power).

Umm... seriously, do you really believe that it costs more to eat well? That is one of the silliest things I have ever heard. It is quite often more expensive to eat rubbish than it is to prepare good, fresh food.

And don't even start me on that bull about not having enough time because of working too hard, cause we all do.

I did agree with your other points, just not on the food one.

/I speak from experience
 
2006-01-03 11:11:38 PM  
A GooMart Box running Wagle OS.
 
2006-01-03 11:28:32 PM  
WTF google? Apple pioneered cube shaped electronics that are easy to use and a good price. Shame on you.
 
2006-01-03 11:32:12 PM  
two words: Linspire.
 
ACF
2006-01-03 11:39:03 PM  
First, bullshiat. All of this speculation comes from a single Bear Stern analyst making a wild guess.

Second, if Google really wants the media to farking hate them to death, the best way to do it is partner with Walmart.
 
2006-01-03 11:40:25 PM  
this rumor is being denied by both parties.

NO GOOGLE PCs
(sorry folks)
 
2006-01-03 11:41:54 PM  
So, when does the Google server farm become self-aware and go apesh*t?
 
2006-01-03 11:55:00 PM  
AH HAH!

At least the Wal-mart haters are spared the idea that their socially sensitive Google buddies won't be teaming up with the Enron of retail!
 
2006-01-03 11:56:34 PM  
I heard that google is coming out with their own email system. google-mail or something?

or was it hotgoogle?

either way, nobody will ever use it!
 
2006-01-04 01:36:46 AM  
wingnut396: That said, this cheap internet PC will fit in nice with their internet, java driven office suite.


There is no Google PC

Java is slow as fark.
 
2006-01-04 01:54:13 AM  
NeoBad: But if you call "Blue Hippo" you can get a PC with NO credit, plus a multifunction printer and brand new digital camera.....

Right on...I want a low end Dell PC ($600 value) for around $1800 ($35/week for a year).
 
2006-01-04 03:49:38 AM  
I live in Vegas and am going to CES this week. Will I see a Google Cube? Perhaps not this week, but I suspect it'll come soon enough. If it's there, I'll post pics.

From: http://video.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=26535


Is paid content available on Google Video?

Currently, Google Video only offers the playback feature for free video content uploaded by users. If a video on our search results page offers the playback feature, we'll display a play button in the image thumbnail.

Playback of free, user-submitted content enables users to find videos they're interested in while providing a new distribution and monetization opportunity for video producers.

Eventually, we hope to give users access to even more video content and enable video downloads for fees set by the content owner. We encourage you to visit Google Video over the coming months to see our additions and improvements.
 
2006-01-04 08:02:39 AM  
"Do no evil" indeed.

We'll see what kind of warranty this comes with, because flogging straight-to-landfill electronics is one of Walmart's biggest evils.
 
2006-01-04 08:40:16 AM  
Let it come. I'll hack it like I did my iOpener like 5 years ago.
 
2006-01-04 09:16:05 AM  
If for $200 this Linux n00b can go buy a box computer, load another version of Linux and qmailtoaster and have a nice cheap mail server, then maybe, just maybe I might buy it.
 
2006-01-04 01:47:24 PM  
In other news, Google's still looking for a creative director.
 
2006-01-06 10:12:38 AM  
Bah the Granparents box was the WebTV and later the MSNTV systems and look how well they did? One of the only things that Microsoft bought out that does not earn a profit.

Besides the Macintosh was designed to be so simple that your Grandparents can use it, and it was too expensive for them so Apple made that Pippen, which failed as well.
 
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