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(Orlando Sentinel)   Disney resort forgets that soccer families and swingers conventions do not mix. Naked hilarity ensues   ( divider line
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2006-01-03 02:26:59 PM  
2006-01-03 02:27:50 PM  
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You used to be a swinger man!
2006-01-03 02:27:58 PM  
Earguy, why did I have to look?

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2006-01-03 02:28:20 PM  
Dinty Moore's Law

I tried the "swingers" thing once.
It wasn't for me.
I'm more of a dangler.

/that explains the name
//now that is slashy gold!
///well maybe
2006-01-03 02:30:17 PM  
mmagdalene: Wow, you're tough. She was one of the pretty ones.
2006-01-03 02:37:11 PM  
fluffywuffy, I don't think anyone is biting on your repeated attempts at a flame war with Republicans. I really don't think that there are that many here.

Because the Republicans, you know... are at work.
2006-01-03 02:39:21 PM  
My God, just seeing a bunch of shrill soccer moms screaming and crying while little Trevor and Ashley stare wide eyed at a bunch of middle aged naked people would make my day.
2006-01-03 02:39:55 PM  
Dio Wildfire
So are the liberals... don't generalize.
2006-01-03 02:42:57 PM  

You think mmagdalene was pointing out of picture of her own hawt self...?
2006-01-03 02:44:27 PM  
I wondered where all the Vikings players were hanging out now that the season's over.
2006-01-03 02:47:19 PM  
Could have been worse.

There could have been a Star Trek convention booked.

2006-01-03 02:47:26 PM  
"Does love mean spanking someone on the a$$ for five minutes with ranch dressing??"


/SouthPark LOTR ep.
//can't remember the exact quote
///too busy laffing my a$$ off
2006-01-03 02:47:33 PM  
Isn't every hotel in Orlando really a Disney hotel
2006-01-03 02:48:24 PM  
Butterfinger: Most likely not. Methinks mmagdalene is way hotter, but more modest, hence her post. Even her non-response is a sign of modesty; how rare in Farkistan.
2006-01-03 02:49:11 PM  
If we're going to stereotype, it would be MORE likely to have Republicans here now. Simply because they would be the office-drone or CEO types who would have a computer at work.
2006-01-03 02:51:53 PM  
Danger Mouse: You're wrong, I think. Klingons and middle aged swingers? I would PAY to watch that.
2006-01-03 02:52:21 PM  
IAMBOB: "Does love mean spanking someone on the a$$ for five minutes with ranch dressing??"

I don't call that love... I call it 'Monday'
2006-01-03 03:00:05 PM  
I'd like to be the first to welcome all the Disney lawyers to this thread.
2006-01-03 03:00:40 PM  
2006-01-03 01:51:15 PM fluffywuffy

Most sexual deviants are Republicans

That may be, but they tend to at least remember that discretion is the better part of ___________.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
/Hides the voter registration card.
//Coaches soccer.
2006-01-03 03:01:11 PM  
Cant believe the mgt. at the Crowne let anyone set up a swingset in a ballroom. Why would you want to swing in a ballroom anyway? Swinging should be done outdoors, on a playground, right?
2006-01-03 03:01:52 PM  

Danger Mouse: You're wrong, I think. Klingons and middle aged swingers? I would PAY to watch that.

I think most people who dress up as klingons end up paying for sex too. :^)

But would you want your child exposed to a Star Trek Convention? I mean, that's just wrong and could really scar the kid for life.
2006-01-03 03:02:03 PM  

Pat Robertson should say something stupid just to spite those swingers.

Don't you mean smite?
2006-01-03 03:06:43 PM  
We went a swingers convention/party a while back at a hotel. The week leading up, the hotel got all freaked out and canceled everything booked for the hotel. Everyone ended up at another venue down the street. Regardless, there were some kids around the pool, but the hotel staff was decent enough to tell everyone what was going on. They even sent out emails/phone calls to people who booked rooms as to what was happening.

The hotel was good in letting everyone know, bad in cancelling last minute.

\some hot swingers that night
\\including the soccer moms
\\\I like soccer moms.....mmmmmmmmm
2006-01-03 03:08:20 PM  
Daveism: Bullshiat. My wife and I are relatively young (31 and 33 respectively), she is gorgeous and I consider myself alright


Swingers I've known are gruesome. It's the same old story of attention-seeking chicks discoverying that sluttiness can be a substitute for good looks and guys looking for strategies to hump anything that moves.
2006-01-03 03:08:30 PM  
Earguy: This was just an ugly nightmare.

I dunno. If you really search, you may find three, maybe four good looking people.
2006-01-03 03:10:42 PM  
Quoth Daveism...

> Bullshiat. My wife and I are relatively young (31 and 33
> respectively), she is gorgeous and I consider myself
> alright.

We believe you.

Attractive people do not regularly attend hotel parties.

If you're still going to the general-invite premise parties instead of the small private parties, you're not as attractive as you think.
2006-01-03 03:11:31 PM  
This should have been part of the headline

"delicately explain to my Catholic school children that swingers change partners during the evening."

/At least it did when I submitted the article.
2006-01-03 03:11:44 PM  
Most people here don't seem to know what swinging is about. Its not necessarily about getting a piece of tail anytime you want. It's for people in a commited relationship who would like to go outside the societally imparted rules of marrage and have sex with other singles or couples either together or apart. If you are a single you are NOT a swinger you are simply having sex with swingers. There is another subset of society that are often grouped with swingers and those are polyamourous. Those people can be swingers but are typically looking for openended relationships with multiple people in a semipermenant way with all the bells and whistles of a relationship, including love. Few if any swingers would ever professt to truley love a swinging partner as anything but a close friend.

/I dont care how hot you are, look, or act, getting a 14 person group sex session together takes some real work. ;-)
2006-01-03 03:12:02 PM  
grrr, as been stated a million times.... Disney had nothing to do with this. bad headline submitter.

there was a cop there, and he said nothing was going on that was illegal. I assume that means no public nudity crazy sex acts taking place. so the parents can screw off.

as far as the attractivenes of swingers.... they run the gamut, but finding young couples (ie, couples in their 20's) that are attractive is quite rare. most people turn to swinging after years of boredom in their own relationship, usually in their mid to late 30's (and of course, they are hopelessly looking for the 24 year old model-hot couple to swing with, nevermind that the wife has pumped out a few kids and could birth a Toyota Land Cruiser without blinking an eye, and hubby has a 40" waist but when he was in high school he played football so somehow he thinks he is "hot"). the younger crowds don't swing, not because they don't want to, but because they are still exploring traditional sex. give them a five or ten years of the same partner and they will be sashaying around a ball room in florida on new years eve in a toga or a thong, with tassles on their nipples and rubber sheets on the bed in the suite.
2006-01-03 03:12:59 PM  
The hotel could have been a bit more discreet, but this isn't anything I would complain or make a fuss about, and nothing that's gonna mess up a kid. I saw women going topless in Berkeley all through my youth. I saw naked runners at the Bay to Breakers every year I ran it. It's just not that big of a deal. In fact, if you take off all your clothes, you'll realize that you, too, are now naked. (Horror).

I think the biggest mistake being made is the parents vastly underestimating the sexual awareness of their 12-year old daughters. But whatever. Most people can't feel halfway good about themselves unless they're pointing out what they think is bad in others.
2006-01-03 03:14:55 PM  
I kept waiting for a positive quote:

"12 year old Jeremy was quoted as saying 'THIS WAS THE BEST VACATION EVER!!!1eleventy!!!' "
2006-01-03 03:17:09 PM  
Danger Mouse: Sad to say, but due to my circle of friends, actors/musicians/artists/geeks, my kids have already been exposed to Trekies, Klingons, gamers, LARPers, what have you. Not much surprises them anymore (both are very pre-teen). They tell their friends that "not much is stranger than their dad." They'll probably be FARKers in the future.
2006-01-03 03:18:57 PM  
Mmmmmm, 55 year old boobies.....
2006-01-03 03:22:37 PM  
funny you should bring up swingers, submitter. My bf and I were checking out sites last night.
We haven't found anything we are looking for yet but I will keep an open mind.

As for the hotel mishap, I bet the reason the hotel didn't put up much a fuss with complaints is because the swingers probably paid out big dollar for that ballroom.
2006-01-03 03:27:13 PM  
Hell, I've been trying to find a hot soccer mom who'll swing with me for years.
2006-01-03 03:31:46 PM  
Danger Mouse: In my experience, there is a fair
bit of overlap between Trekkie and swinger culture.

Fandom is fandom, whether its sexual, SF or sports. It's
all silly to those outside looking in.
2006-01-03 03:32:07 PM  
I love how people start out a phrase by saying, "I'm not a prude, but..." and finish the sentence with something that only a sexually repressed prude would say.
2006-01-03 03:35:00 PM about a swinging Star Trek convention?

Women dressed as Trills and Romulans, men as Klingons and could be interesting.
2006-01-03 03:35:51 PM  
Wtf is a destination wedding?
2006-01-03 03:43:42 PM  
Wtf is a destination wedding?

We're having our wedding in Aruba! If you really love us, you'll take out a second mortgage on your house to attend!

Please RSVP ASAP, and reference the attached gift registry.

P.S. We'll be having a Natalee Holloway-themed scavenger hunt. Bring flip-flops!
2006-01-03 03:44:41 PM  
What type of proof would satisfy you? Any pic I put up, even a driver's license, would be "somebody else" or a photochop. Part of the reason we don't go to 'hotel' parties or other non-invitation-only events is that we are a very discrete and private couple, due to the very small town and nature of our jobs. This is also the reason we don't post pictures of ourselves anywhere. I guess you will just have to trust me :)

Thank you for presenting very eloquently, and IMNSHO, accurately and fairly, the mindset and landscape of the swinging lifestyle, in a very brief format. :)
2006-01-03 03:44:50 PM  
Ah, like the Pinter/Sue Ellen Mischke India wedding.
2006-01-03 03:45:29 PM  
best lines of the article:
"Some lady pulled down her skirt to show a black thong with diamonds," said Walker, a 10th-grader at Mauldin High School in Mauldin, S.C.

"It made me uncomfortable because I was there with my family."

If I'd been here alone, however...
2006-01-03 03:48:43 PM  
You need a screencap of Dash from the end of The Incredibles saying that exact same phrase to go with your post...

\just sayin'
2006-01-03 03:54:40 PM  
It's not that kids shouldn't see naked people, but it wasn't appropriate for the hotel to not inform the non-swinger guests about it beforehand. It's not like the hotel didn't know what would happen, as they had the same swingers attend the previous year.

True, the guests could have left and found more rooms at another hotel, assuming another hotel has enough rooms available for the group of soccer families. Chances are most hotels are booked mostly solid during new year's, and it's highly unlikely that a single hotel would have enough rooms for all the soccer families.

But worse, the families weren't even told about the swingers being there even after registration. They found out by seeing them and asking the hotel at that point. Would the hotel care enough to refund their money? Would the hotel try to assist them in finding a new hotel? Would the hotel even try to keep the swingers away from the young kids so as not to offend the parents?

Yes, I said offend the parents. Many parents don't want their kids being introduced to this sort of thing at 11 years of age. These parents aren't saying the swingers shouldn't swing, so why are YOU folks saying the parents are wrong to not want their kids to see this? It's entirely within the rights of the parents to try to keep this sort of thing away from their own kids. Excusing it by saying "oh, seeing boobies won't hurt them" isn't ok.
2006-01-03 03:57:09 PM  

I was just being a smart ass, and didn't mean to offend anyone.

/except the star trek freaks.
2006-01-03 04:01:26 PM  
I was at a gaming con in Rochester a couple years ago, and there was a youth/tween cheerleading competition going on at the same time.

NOTHING is funnier than a couple of 11 and 12 year old girls rocking out to "Fangirl Shake Your Booty" as being performed by The Great Luke Ski himself...
2006-01-03 04:05:32 PM  
Danger Mouse

It seems that the hotel had an arragnement with an internet travel agent who was booking for the disney event. The hotel seems to have known it was going to have many disney soccer guests. Don't you think it would be wise to let famillies know that on New Years eve, the ballroom is going to be overrun with middle aged naked folks?

I'd be ripshiat if I had a familly booked then.

It may have been wise, but certainly not reqired. The hotel as a business is required to provide sleeping quarters, ammenities, and general purpose (ballrooms) for a fee. By law, the hotel is reqired to notify guests of that fee and any other rules that would result in the patron's loss of their money. If the hotel has no specific rules for naked partygoers in the ballroom, they cannot prohibit that activity, nor are they legally obligated to notify other patrons of that activity.

Now was it "wise" for them to not notify the "soccer moms"? No it was not not. Were they obligatd to do so? Again, no. Is it the parents responsability to see what is going on and immediately take action to protect their children from things they do not want them to see? Yes.

I'm a conservative Christian and while I do not condone the actions of the "swingers" nor do I think it was "wise" for the hotel to notify any patrons of their activity. However, I simply wish to point out that its not the hotel's responsability and ultimately that lies with the parents and guardians of the children.

Every day, I see "soccer mom" types shirking this responsability to other businesses and state-run organizations. It makes me shake my head.
2006-01-03 04:08:33 PM  
Daveism: What type of proof would satisfy you?

That's the great thing about the interwebs. No one can tell that I'm really a dog.

/I can scare soccer moms without even taking my clothes off.
//Mostly it's the odor and the fleas.
///And the mange.
////Most swingers belong in the kennel with me.
2006-01-03 04:09:15 PM  
The only thing I've got is, back in my teenage years, at a parent's friend's wedding: there was cross dressing convention in the room across the hall. For the most part they had their own men's dressing as women's room but a few snuck over. We all had a laugh over it, not sure how the bride and groom felt about the situation though.
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