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(Boston Globe)   "Remember that petition we signed to give supermarkets liquor licenses? Yeah, it turns out we were actually banning gay marriage..."   (boston.com) divider line 989
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2005-12-30 01:59:10 AM
My goodness live and let live people. If two people love each other and want to marry then by all means let them. It is farking hard enough in this world without other people trying to intentionally make life difficult.
 
2005-12-30 02:03:45 AM
But homosexuality destroys the sanctity of marriage. My 4th husband and I are deaply offended
 
2005-12-30 02:04:48 AM
Marriage destroys the sanctity of homosexuality.
 
2005-12-30 02:14:09 AM
I like cake.
 
2005-12-30 02:18:13 AM
patrick767: I like cake.

i prefer pie.
 
2005-12-30 02:20:53 AM
I'm going to create a law banning cake-making. Then pie will rule the world! HAHAHAHAHA!
 
2005-12-30 02:33:54 AM
Certainly an instance to keep in mind when relying on survey data.
 
2005-12-30 02:34:48 AM
HereComesTheScience: I'm going to create a law banning cake-making. Then pie will rule the world! HAHAHAHAHA!


I have it on good authority for a high 5 figure payment, Focus on the Family is willing to declare the making of pie a secret homosexual activity that exists to corrupt your children into accepting their "agenda". Try and make pies when you have every religious bigot in the country screaming at you.
 
2005-12-30 02:38:55 AM
But what of same-sex pies? You realize that pie in American Pie was male, right?
 
2005-12-30 02:50:44 AM
EvilToni: But homosexuality destroys the sanctity of marriage. My 4th husband and I are deaply offended

I love you, EvilToni.

/cola, keyboard... you know the drill.
 
2005-12-30 02:59:19 AM
All that proves is that there are 123,356 right wing jerks in Massachusetts.
 
2005-12-30 03:01:52 AM
Those religous zealots are quite used to using trickery and deception to get people to follow them. Whatever happened to the sanctity of mind you own goddamn business?
 
2005-12-30 03:21:25 AM
What's all this about giving pies liquor licenses and banning cake marriage?
 
2005-12-30 05:03:36 AM
I managed to get a bible-thumpin', 6,000-year-old-earth-believin', "if a queer gets married, my marriage suffers"-spouter to admit that logically, no matter what he thinks of gay marriage, it's not Constitutionally permitted to ban it (in Canada, anyway). He kept spewing on about "activist judges" and the usual nonsense before I walked him through it.

You have Rule #1: No rules may be made that grants people different rights based on their gender (article 15 in the Canadian constitution)

Rule #2: Person A may engage in Activity X. Person B cannot, because person B is a different gender than Person A. Activity X is "marry a guy".

Rule #2 violates Rule #1. As such, while Rule #1 stands, you may not enact Rule #2.

He went off about how "well, procreation doesn't follow the rules", or some such gibberish. It took slow, small words to explain that Rule #1 is only concerned with how other rules apply to people. Since childbirth is not determined by a law, the constitution does not apply.

Eventually, he said "Well, the people who wrote the Constitution couldn't have forseen this". Yeah, all the way back in 1982 (only 23 years ago), gay people didn't exist.

He now feels that the first step to banning gay marriage is to eliminate equal rights laws. I'll admit, I shouldn't have given him any ideas, but good luck to him trying to get rid of equal protection under the law regardless of race, creed, religion, gender, disability, etc as set out by article 15.
 
2005-12-30 06:14:36 AM
slidillon:
Those religous zealots are quite used to using trickery and deception to get people to follow them. Whatever happened to the sanctity of mind you own goddamn business?

I don't remember seeing anything about marriage in the ten commandments, but I'm pretty sure lying was a no-no.
 
2005-12-30 07:54:09 AM
The land of the free?
 
2005-12-30 07:54:35 AM
Bahamut wins.

/Need O'RLY birds, stat
 
2005-12-30 07:56:32 AM
Wait, you mean hate-mongers cheated?

Have you not met a Republican before?

/duh
 
2005-12-30 07:59:01 AM
they were duped into signing the antigay marriage measure when they thought they were backing a proposal to allow supermarkets to sell wine.

Supermarkets in Massachusetts can't sell wine?
And I thought Virginia's alcohol laws were tough with their state run ABC Stores for anything stronger than wine. But at least here supermarkets have long aisles of wine for sale.
 
2005-12-30 07:59:06 AM
So you didn't get the late liquor licenses either? Bummer.
 
2005-12-30 07:59:10 AM
I still think that half the gays and lesbians getting married now will, within 5 years, be watching their (former) partners walking off with half their worldly belongings and be beating their heads against the wall, saying "We didn't know when we had it good..."
/guys, if it ain't broke, don't fix it....
 
2005-12-30 08:01:38 AM
Wait, so I can't buy any wine at the supermarket then? =(
 
2005-12-30 08:02:52 AM
Chuck Norris destroys the sanctity of evil-doers.
 
2005-12-30 08:03:46 AM
If civil rights were left soley to be decided by the people, only certain people would have them.
 
2005-12-30 08:03:58 AM
Will of the people should prevail or this isn't a democratic society. Personally I am all for equal rights for everyone regardless of who they want to marry, but (and this is the kicker) if the majority legally pass a law banning this then it's time to move on. Maybe this Country isn't ready to accept non-traditional families and im time it will evolve to be a more tollerant place.
 
2005-12-30 08:05:05 AM
I do not know what is funnier; the fact that people still believe a petition (most likely signed several times by the same person, or one person using a fictional name) works.. or that I cannot buy beer on Sunday. As for fags getting married, I am all for it. Just give me my beer on Sunday.
 
2005-12-30 08:05:28 AM
StarshipPooper: Wait, so I can't buy any wine at the supermarket then? =(

I would've liked to give it to others, but StarshipPooper wins the thread by remaining on point, and covering the pertinant details.
 
2005-12-30 08:05:41 AM
I had Jello today.
 
2005-12-30 08:07:21 AM
Personally, I don't care one way or another. But since at this point in time, homosexuality is a deviant behavior, I can't really be surprised when a large chunk of the population does not want it thrown in their faces.
It's not just right wing, bible thumping rednecks who are protesting against gay marriage.

Oh, and for those of you who don't think deviant is the right word for homosexuality;

deviant
Pronunciation Key (dv-nt)

adj.
Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society.

n.
One that differs from a norm, especially a person whose behavior and attitudes differ from accepted social standards.
 
2005-12-30 08:07:44 AM
Baelz

if the majority legally pass a law

What if the majority is farking retarded passes a law that says all American women should wear hijabs like the muslim women and all children must drink blood of unborn fetuses? All I'm saying is, you can't go just by the majority. Look what they elected!
 
2005-12-30 08:07:50 AM
Why do hate filled Jesus Freak groups always use the word "Family" in their name? Hey, I have a family too and you don't speak for me. Please rename your groups to Ignorant Fag Haters of America.

Is hate okay when it is done in the name of family? In the name of Jesus?
 
2005-12-30 08:09:33 AM
chime:

Have you ever tasted the blood of an unborn fetus? I hear it is quite delicious.
 
2005-12-30 08:12:11 AM
I have an honest question for the moronic bible thumpers on Fark.

Does the bible say something that prohibits two people of the same sex from getting married?

I know God prohibits lying, you know, that 'false witness' Commandment thingy.
 
2005-12-30 08:13:57 AM
I don't have any problem with gay marriage, assuming it follows these rules:

1: No Open Mouth kissing in Public
2: No Romantic Hand holding in Public
3: No hugging in Public
4: No displays of Nudity in Public
5: No talking in a voice that doesn't match your gender in Public
6: No lisping in public
7: No Breast Feeding children in Public
8: No attire inappropriate for your gender(men: no dresses, baby doll shirts, skirts, stockings, etc. Women: No baggy jeans, no Tank Tops without Bras, No masculine cut suits. Both Sexes: No Hemp Clothes, No Sandals)


Basically, break any of those rules, and getting tied up to a truck and drug along highway until you skull disintegrates is a-ok.



/Actually, those are my exact same rules for straight people too.
//My fury rises from within :(
///...Fag drag?
 
2005-12-30 08:14:08 AM
I wouldn't know, of course, because the day I finally decided to try drinking the blood of an unborn fetus the little bugger slipped through my hands. I never knew how slimy fetuses were, until that day. At least it didn't go to waste. My dog was happy to eat it up, as usual.
 
2005-12-30 08:14:28 AM
I love...lamp.
 
2005-12-30 08:15:10 AM
Just a quick note to all my fellow M@ssholes...

When someone hands you a piece of paper asking you to sign it, read the damn thing first.

If not...
I have this petition to give everyone "free beer," just ignore that part that says Last Will and Testament. Sign here ____.

Thank you and good night.
 
2005-12-30 08:15:53 AM
ugh. The saddest and most dispicable people in the world are those who cannot be content with their own lives unless they are actively trying to make other people's lives more miserable. This is raised by a power of 3 when the attacks they make on others are based on things that cannot possibly harm them in any way, like stopping others from being married.

I wish the Republican party had not become the religious extremist bigot party. I was a long time Republican and miss their old core values of fiscal responsibility and staying the hell out of other people's business. I feel dirty voting for Democrats, but to be honest the Republicans in the last 6 years have abandoned fiscal responsibility and abandoned conservative government (leaving people the hell alone and not making morality laws and such). That means as compared to Democrats, who were never fiscally responsible, they've lost their edge. At least the Democrats have the advantage now of not pushing a bigotted religious agenda and trying to legislate morality.

*sigh*

I'll just keep telling myself that while I vote against what used to be a good party. At least for every election until they kick the religious extremists out of the party and tell them to go fark themselves, that this is farkING AMERICA where you don't get to screw with other people's lives and happiness because your god tells you to. Aren't we fighting a war against that right now?
 
2005-12-30 08:16:00 AM
Abe Vigoda's GhostM

The word 'deviant' has certain connotations, as you well know. The word 'Paki' means of Pakistani origin, but expect a kicking if you use it in the wrong areas in the UK.
 
2005-12-30 08:19:23 AM
EvilToni: But homosexuality destroys the sanctity of marriage. My 4th husband and I are deaply offended

That's right, honeybunny. Now go finish making my breffist.
 
2005-12-30 08:20:44 AM
Regardless of petition, posting home sales numbers & addresses of those with different views is even more pathetic than signing a petition to increase nascar viewing.
 
2005-12-30 08:21:31 AM
Reminds me of how the law allowing marijuana was passed in Colorado. Not just a petition, but a law. Battered wives portrayed on billboards with the tagline "support prop 4" or whatever. So people were duped into believing they were helping battered women when the law actually was to legalize mj.


Mmmmmmm....battered women.....
 
2005-12-30 08:21:35 AM
Baelz: Will of the people should prevail or this isn't a democratic society. Personally I am all for equal rights for everyone regardless of who they want to marry, but (and this is the kicker) if the majority legally pass a law banning this then it's time to move on.

Ah, but here's the kicker - we are not a democratic society. We are a Constitutional society - meaning that there are laws and precepts that the majority cannot overturn.
 
2005-12-30 08:22:02 AM
I came here expecting to see a "OH NOES TEH GHEYS!!1!" flamewar. I'm dissapointed in all the cognitive thought going on here. Am I on Fark? (checks bookmark)
 
2005-12-30 08:26:17 AM
angry_keebler
...Fag drag?

What kind of person are you?
That's just sad that you really think it's okay to do that to people.
Move to Iran, you'll fit right in.
 
2005-12-30 08:26:22 AM
Muta: Does the bible say something that prohibits two people of the same sex from getting married?


I dunno whether you are trying to throw liquid oxygen on the glowing embers in this thread.. but you know as well as I do that there are enough variations in translation and lack of original scripture texts that you could get two people citing the same verse, one confirming, and one denying, right?
 
2005-12-30 08:26:35 AM
Yastreb: Regardless of petition, posting home sales numbers & addresses of those with different views is even more pathetic than signing a petition to increase nascar viewing.

Isn't this likely a public record thing anyway?
 
2005-12-30 08:27:29 AM
You can buy wine at supermarkets in Massachusetts. The one around the corner from my house sells all kinds, plus Guinness (no bar towels though)

I think the law requires each store to get a permit, which is a hassle for the chain stores, or some other nonsense that makes it less desirable for most of the supermarkets to do it.

/not sure why people can't just stop at the package store on the way home, there must be 50 of them in every town
 
2005-12-30 08:27:33 AM
they were duped into signing the antigay marriage measure when they thought they were backing a proposal to allow supermarkets to sell wine.

So what the petition proves is not that 123,356 people want gay marriage over turned in MA, but that Trader Joe's has 123,356 customers in MA.

/loves me the three-buck-Chuck
 
2005-12-30 08:28:44 AM
Who said being against gay marriage was the sole domain of religious zealots?
 
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