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2005-12-28 07:34:42 PM  
An official may be "excluded from holding office" if she/he does not "acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."

So nice to be living in such an enlightened age...
 
2005-12-28 07:37:04 PM  
But that's ok, Athiests are usually assholes to people unless they are fellow athiests. And since 95% of the worl believes in a "Supreme Being" that is a problem

/just kidding Athiests
 
2005-12-28 07:37:34 PM  
right.. and 30 some-odd states (I dont' know the #) outlaw BJs... when was the last time you got taken downtown for that? It's an old law on the books.. noone enforces it and noone cares. When they bar someone for it, then we'll have a problem-- for about 3 minutes until a lawyer says " yeeeah... nuh-uh"
 
2005-12-28 07:45:32 PM  
Those laws are holdovers from a long time ago. There are still laws in the books in places regarding lanterns on horse-drawn carriages.
 
2005-12-28 07:45:52 PM  
Looks like you can get out of Jury duty too just by claiming to be atheist.
 
2005-12-28 07:46:26 PM  
like an athiest could get elected.
 
2005-12-28 07:47:50 PM  
SomeIrishKid: right.. and 30 some-odd states (I dont' know the #) outlaw BJs... when was the last time you got taken downtown for that?

Last Teusday. I told the biatch to tell the cops she was my niece and we were on our way to visit granny in the nursing home, but decided to stop for a sandwich in the parking lot...
 
2005-12-28 07:50:49 PM  
Nerdlinger: Last Teusday. I told the biatch to tell the cops she was my niece and we were on our way to visit granny in the nursing home, but decided to stop for a sandwich in the parking lot...


should have told her to swallow first.
 
2005-12-28 07:59:45 PM  
samimgreen: like an athiest could get elected.


Not if they're all like the ones on Fark.
 
2005-12-28 08:00:45 PM  
I'm pretty sure that more than 5% of the world population doesn't believe in what the authors of these phrases had in mind by "supreme being".
 
2005-12-28 08:21:45 PM  
And the Christians complain about being oppressed.
 
2005-12-28 08:24:09 PM  
Castor8281: But that's ok, Athiests are usually assholes to people unless they are fellow athiests. And since 95% of the worl believes in a "Supreme Being" that is a problem

That's ok, religious folks are usually assholes to people unless they belong to the same minor sect that they do. And since 95% of the world is largely composed of the illiterate, uneducated, and marginal IQ'd it's not a majority I would care to join.

I'll stay enlightened and unburdened by archaic beliefs.
 
2005-12-28 09:45:22 PM  
I'll stay enlightened and unburdened by archaic beliefs

You'll never get elected with an attitude like that.
 
2005-12-28 10:01:30 PM  
95% of the world has a marginal IQ?

Damn.. I bet over half of them are below average, too.
 
2005-12-28 10:02:25 PM  
Castor8281: But that's ok, Athiests are usually assholes to people unless they are fellow athiests.


That's probably because they don't have a "Supreme Being" to teach them how to act nicely.
 
2005-12-28 10:02:58 PM  
Capitalist1: Damn.. I bet over half of them are below average, too.


I made sure I didn't say "below average" :)
 
2005-12-28 10:28:39 PM  
PC LOAD LETTER: I'll stay enlightened and unburdened by archaic beliefs.

God bless you for that!
 
2005-12-28 10:29:46 PM  
Laws like this are one reason I joined Americans United For Separation of Church and State. Check 'em out -- they're very politically active in such matters. Their chair, Rev. Barry Lynn, is extremely well-spoken and highly visible in the mass media. They're worth supporting, IMHO.
 
2005-12-28 10:39:31 PM  
From ReligiousTolerance.org:

Gallup Organization polls (1937 to 1999) on religious prejudice:

Polls by the Gallup Organization are of particular value because they have asked essentially the same question of American adults for over four decades. One series of questions is typically worded: "If your party nominated a generally well-qualified person for president who happened to be a 'X' would you vote for that person?" "X" is Atheist, Baptist, Black, Catholic, Homosexual, Jewish, Mormon, and Woman. Percentage of unprejudiced adults (those answering "yes") at approximately 20 year intervals have been:



In 1978, the most discriminated-against characteristic was homosexuality; only about one in four Americans would vote for a well-qualified homosexual. Gays and lesbians have made impressive gains in acceptance. Now, about three in five Americans would consider voting for one.

In 1978, the second most-discriminated against group were Atheists. Only four Americans in ten would vote for a well-qualified Atheist. In 1999, Atheists had made a slight gain; five in ten would vote for one.
 
2005-12-28 10:41:37 PM  
 
2005-12-28 10:44:47 PM  
Mormons get 99%?!?
 
2005-12-28 10:47:00 PM  
Finally, Alabama's not on the list! Does that mean we won't get made fun of anymore?

/Doubt it
//We deserve it
 
2005-12-28 11:30:37 PM  
Holy crap... more people would vote for a gay than an atheist? That's amazing. Not because I think gay is "worse," but because given how ridiculously homophobic this country is, I would never have dreamed that atheism could possibly be perceived as scarier.

That worries me, actually.
 
2005-12-28 11:32:18 PM  
TheOther: Mormons get 99%?!?

That's because they're uber-beings.

 
2005-12-28 11:50:14 PM  
Holy crap... more people would vote for a gay than an atheist? That's amazing. Not because I think gay is "worse," but because given how ridiculously homophobic this country is, I would never have dreamed that atheism could possibly be perceived as scarier.

Notice Muslim isn't on the list.

It would be interesting to see a Muslim, a homosexual and an atheist run in a major election in a big state like Texas.
 
2005-12-29 12:35:47 AM  
Okay, someone explain this to me: just how are Christians being oppressed in this country?
 
2005-12-29 12:55:15 AM  
Atheists can't hold office in seven U.S. states

and they can't win office in 42 other states
 
2005-12-29 12:56:37 AM  
DblDad:

Gallup Organization polls (1937 to 1999) on religious prejudice:

That's very interesting, and I'm glad to see that the country is coming a long way in such matters.

TheOther: Mormons get 99%?!?

They're everywhere... bwahahaha!


Mike Leavitt, U.S. Secretary of Health & Human Services


Mitt Romney, Governor of Massachusetts


Jon Huntsman, Governor of Utah


Harry Reid, Nevada Senator, Senate Minority Leader


Orrin Hatch, Utah Senator


Mike Crapo (heh heh), Idaho Senator


Gordon Smith, Oregon Senator


Bob Bennett, Utah Senator, Chief Deputy Majority Whip


Brent Scowcroft, former National Security Adviser to Ford and Bush I, prominent opponent to the current Iraq war


John Browning, of M2 Browning/Colt Model 1911 fame


Glenn Beck, ignorant right-wing radio talk show host


Eliza Dushku


Jon Heder


Fay Wray


Ted Bundy


Butch Cassidy


Brian Mitchell, kidnapper of Elizabeth Smart


Belladonna, porn star


Orson Card, author of Ender's Game


Andy Reid, head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles


Jack Dempsey, boxer who has a fish named after him
 
2005-12-29 01:02:38 AM  
CheekyMunky: Holy crap... more people would vote for a gay than an atheist? That's amazing. Not because I think gay is "worse," but because given how ridiculously homophobic this country is, I would never have dreamed that atheism could possibly be perceived as scarier.


We're dealing with people who honestly believe that a human being is incapable of having a sense of morality not governed by fear of punishment from an omnipotent being.

As pathetic as that idea is.
 
2005-12-29 01:23:24 AM  
If Eliza Dushku is Mormon, I bet she's a very very naughty Mormon.
 
2005-12-29 01:38:42 AM  
So much for the Democratic Party's plans of nominating a ticket of a homosexual and an atheist in 2008.

;)
 
2005-12-29 01:40:46 AM  
Just Ignorant: If Eliza Dushku is Mormon, I bet she's a very very naughty Mormon.

Not as naughty as you wish.

"Hell, no. Never. You have a better chance of seeing God than seeing me naked. It just doesn't work for me." -Eliza Dushku
 
2005-12-29 01:55:45 AM  
The problem isn't with these types of laws, which would be unilkely to be enforced, and if they were would be tossed out in a heartbeat. That's not to say they shouldn't be repealed as a matter of principle.

No, the problem is that it would be very nearly impossible for an atheist to be elected to any major office in this nation, because as soon as the religious issue came out, the right wing and the fundamentalists would mobilize to destroy any possibility of that person being elected.

If they'd do it to a fellow Christian, they'd have no qualms about doing it to an atheist.
 
2005-12-29 02:13:48 AM  
Cyclometh: the right wing and the fundamentalists would mobilize to destroy any possibility of that person being elected.

GIS for destroy atheists:

 
2005-12-29 02:18:11 AM  
elchip: GIS for destroy atheists:

*blink*

Um, wow. Where the hell did that come from?
 
2005-12-29 03:24:56 AM  
Also... I may be wrong, but I personally believe that most presidents of at least the last half-century have been atheists in all but name.

Including George W. Bush.

An politician can easily be an atheist but study a bit of the Bible, go to church, even go through a "born again" ceremony... and then claim to be a born again Christian when he in fact cares nothing for his "faith"... thus sucking up lots of Christian votes and being free to carry out his agenda so long as he pays the religious folks a bit of lip service.
 
2005-12-29 03:36:51 AM  
 
2005-12-29 04:20:25 AM  
elchip

How did you find that picture of me?
 
2005-12-29 04:22:15 AM  
Tabatha Static

Cthulhu IS the lesser evil. All hail Nyarlathotep, Messenger of the Old Ones!
 
2005-12-29 04:26:54 AM  
god = pretend :)
 
2005-12-29 04:28:59 AM  
If I ran, I'd probably pretend to be Christian. It gives people comfort thinking that the guy at the top fears a higher power.
 
2005-12-29 04:29:24 AM  
Wow, I'm shocked by the levels of prejudice in that gallup poll.
 
2005-12-29 04:29:58 AM  
No FSM mention yet?
 
2005-12-29 04:30:56 AM  
The one and only Mormon I have known, I would vote him into office for whatever, just because of his solid character.

And I am usually annoyed by religious types.
 
2005-12-29 04:31:01 AM  
elchip:
I'm still recovering from all the Mormon pictures that you posted. They're farking taking over the country. Scary, and people were worried about the Scientologists,,,

Since you are obviously a source tonight, do you happen to know any Scientologists in prominent positions outside of the movie industry?
 
2005-12-29 04:32:16 AM  
The problem with these laws is that they can be selectively enforced...a young woman who threw a pie at Dan Glickman (former secretary of agriculture) was threatened with prosecution (if not actually prosecuted) under VA laws banning cohabitation by unmarried people.

And I feel much better that those who hate 'athiests' (sic) can't even spell it correctly. Somehow fitting. I suppose Jesus is your copilot AND spellchecker.
 
2005-12-29 04:32:17 AM  
When I get to Heaven I'm going to punch God on his big fat nose.
 
2005-12-29 04:33:09 AM  
Christian Bale

thinking the same thing

/Touched by a noodle
 
2005-12-29 04:35:10 AM  
"Hindus would also be good enough because they generally acknowledge the existence of millions of deities"

I smell bullshiat.
 
2005-12-29 04:37:01 AM  
lostcat: When I get to Heaven I'm going to punch God on his big fat nose.

Personally, I just hope that there's a suggestion box.
 
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