Phil Collins can sing... and play the drums. Can't beat that with a stick!

They need to play THIS.

That Robert Plant record is much better than anyone would suspect. Somewhat prog, I agree. Plant is much more interested in complexity than you would think, after his bluesy roots in that "other" band.

(Early) Vangelis is incredibly good. As much as I worship Emerson, Vangelis is the biggest influence on how I think synth music should sound. He's relentlessly organic and emotive. I love Albedo 0.39.

BTW, that last Genesis record without Phil is pretty good in places BUT has a really awful tendency to build to a Genesis-patented musical crescendo and then...abruptly fade to the end of the song. Very very weird. Just as they hit their groove, they stop quickly. I don't get it. I do, though, have a nice boot of the new guy singing Lamb. He does a good job.

You know, I'm no Philco apologist, but at one point he was in Genesis, Brand X, playing side gigs on Eno's "Another Green World," and establishing Phil Collins and Los Fabulos Jacuzzis. Hard working man in show biz, regardless.

And, one more addition to the "you would like it, if you like prog" collection, now that I see it mentioned briefly above:

BeBop Deluxe!

This anthology is wonderful, and probably all you'd ever need as a casual fan.

If you are an early Genesis fan, you have to check out the Musical Box. They're doing the Lamb tour with PG's blessing. Phil Collins came out and played the encore at one of their shows, so I guess they had his blessing as well.

I would travel anywhere on the planet to see Gabriel, Hackett, Rutherford, Banks, and Collins on the same stage.

Musicology101

Yep, Delicious Agony is good, and I've listened to it a lot, but recently I've been checking out....

www.stellar-attraction.com

....much more often. Another great online prog radio station!

I'm really hopeful this will happen, but the band has already shot the whole thing down for at least until 2007.

I seldom post, but must for this thread. I would pay butt-loads of money to see them re-united. To hear Peter sing Supper's Ready or The Musical Box, or parts of the Lamb... unreal.

If Roger Waters can actually get up on the same stage as David Gilmour, and perform as Pink Floyd -- even just for one set -- then ANY band EVER can reunite. Yes, this includes the possibility of Harrison & Lennon zombies...a possibility I considered MORE likely before Live8.

I know with all the hating going on with Invisible Touch, you may have overlooked the one good song: "Domino" which was a two-part song in the style (more or less) of classic Genesis.

Referring to the pix a few Page Ups earlier, when did Peter Gabriel start looking like Dennis Hopper?

And Ubergrendle has me thinking... if you threw Zak Starkey, Dhani Harrison, Julian Lennon and James McCartney together you could call 'em the Larvae. I'd probably pay to see that, at least out of morbid curiosity.

Sorry, submitter. Nice try, but the fifth seal was broken years ago, and it contained Dave Matthews.

Might I just say that Disturbed's cover of "Land of Confusion" is FAR better than Genesis' original! More than makes up for the hideous cover that Jessica Simpson's version of Berlin's "Take My Breath Away" and her version of "These Boots Are Made For Walking".

Jessica Simpson is doomed to hell for those unforgivable sins.

This thread has kept me entertained at work, dammit!

/"Day of the Eagle" -- Trower's best tune evar
//dig Phil Collins before he went all Disney

NYRBill

my favorite musical group of all time, the Pat Metheny Group?

I saw the PMG once and saw him play guitar for Michael Brecker (sp?) once, awesome

I heartily refer you to Joni Mitchell's Shadows and Light. Features Pat Metheny (guitar), Michael Brecker (tenor saxophone), Lyle Mays (keyboards), Jaco Pastorius (fretless bass) and Don Alias (drums). The Greatest Band that Never Was.

I'll die happy if I hear Supper's Ready live in concert sung by Peter Gabriel. It's my favorite song in the world. and I'm only 19 just discovering how amazing the early Genesis albums are.

MBooda
I heartily refer you to Joni Mitchell's Shadows and Light. Features Pat Metheny (guitar), Michael Brecker (tenor saxophone), Lyle Mays (keyboards), Jaco Pastorius (fretless bass) and Don Alias (drums). The Greatest Band that Never Was.

I'm not a big fan of her but that sounds worth it.
isn't Jaco long dead? I also heard that MB is ill and doesn't play anymore

And it's hey babe
Your supper's ready for you
Hey my baby don't you know our love is true

Dance on a volcano all the way!!!11!111

Half way up, your half way down
And the pack on your back is turning you around
Throw it away you won't need it up here

Let the dance begin

Barnstormer
Yes. Can't forget about BrandX Phil Collins plays his ass off on that stuff.

I sent the linked article to a friend of mine today and he recommended Hackett's Genesis Revisited CD. Anyone else heard it?

I heartily refer you to Joni Mitchell's Shadows and Light. Features Pat Metheny (guitar), Michael Brecker (tenor saxophone), Lyle Mays (keyboards), Jaco Pastorius (fretless bass) and Don Alias (drums). The Greatest Band that Never Was.

I remember watching the video of that, since I'm a big-time Lyle fan (even since his days at North Texas State University Lab Jazz Band!). It looked like the editor must've had a grudge against him, and almost completely excluded him from being shown.

Want a good progressive jazz record? The self titled Lyle Mays record. Brilliant, and as good as anything Kit Watkins ever did.

I've seen Genesis four times: And Then There Were Three, Duke, Invisible Touch and We Can't Dance tours. While amazing, I've always lamented not seeing Steve Hackett who is just incredible, one of the finest melodic rock guitarists ever. I would gnaw my arm off to see Steve Hacett and if he's surrounded by Banks and Rutherford, so much the better. Chain Collins to the drum kit and don't give him a voice mic.

The best solo albums from this group have consistently come from Hackett and Gabriel, with Anthony Phillips a close third. Not a bad album from the lot. As to Collins...SUCKS!

//polite nod to Smallcreep's Day and A Curious Feeling

Oh, the >Hackett Live in Japan record is wonderful.

Steve Hackett, Chester Thompson, Ian MacDonald (the guy who wrote "Court of the Crimson King"), John Wetton, and a few others doing Genesis, Crimson, Asia, and others.

It's unexpectedly wonderful.

I'll die happy if I hear Supper's Ready live in concert sung by Peter Gabriel. It's my favorite song in the world. and I'm only 19 just discovering how amazing the early Genesis albums are.

That's funny, in a reminiscent way. When I was 19, my frosh English term paper was an exhaustive compare and contrast of Supper's Ready and Tull's A Passion Play.

Welcome to a new, if obscure, rite of passage. Ought to be obligatory.

One of the most entertaining shows I ever saw was Ringo's All Starr Revue. Instead of Ringo, Sheila E played full drum kit behind Greg Lake on 'Court of the Crimson King' and believe it or not she did a damn fine job. I thought that and 'Lucky Man' were the highlights, but having the lead singers of Supertramp and Mott the Hoople in the same band made it a very interesting four-bands-in-one evening.

Ian Hunter and Roger Hodgson on the same stage should have been a duel to the death with Hunter as the victor. Supertramp and Mott? Goddam, that's just wrong.

polythene_pam: Chick Corea

Is a god. An ugly one, but a god none-the-less

Funny thing happened: Ian did 'Cleveland Rocks' and the Boston crowd wasn't really getting into it. Then he changed the chorus to "Yankees suck!" and the place went wild.

Y'now, if this comes to pass, this would be fantastic news. If Gabriel is indeed there, it'll be even better. :)

NYRBill: ASIA reunion tour


Sorry, you missed it, it was in 1999

kingflower:

I got your Udu Wudu right here. (Still looking for a good copy of MDK, though.)

Funny how everyone's suggesting that Trick of the Tail was the best post-Gabriel Genesis, while forgetting Wind and Wuthering, one of their very best. "One for the Vine" and "Blood on the Rooftops" were two of their finest pieces, and Hackett's guitar on the beginning of the latter ought to be holy writ for young rock guitarists.

It's just the way of the world
That's how it's got to be.

/slightly obscure?
//my favorite Genesis song

inthe80s
I like both versions of Genesis... think I'll listen to some now. I can think of worse bands reunited (Motley Crue)

Pfft. I like Phil Collins-era Genesis, the Gabriel stuff I've heard is too artsy for my liking.

But I *did* score tickets to see the Crue in the near future and I am excited. Then again, I have a horrid taste in music.. after all, I like Phil Collins. :-)

I recently came upon a live version of Lamb. Listening to disk 2, "Anyway" (they say she comes on a pale horse, but I'm sure I hear a train), I could not tell it was live! Only when I put in the first song where Gabe introduces Rael and the descending cloud in Times Sq. did I know it was live.

It's hard not to blame Phil for Genesis' post-Gabe suckage. Great drummer, wish he'd stuck to the skins alongside Chester Thompson (Dance on a Volcano duet anyone?) Although, no one tops Bruford. I saw a vid where Bill plays with Genesis, wearing his cute little white overalls with a "B" on the front.

Don't forget GONG, especially Angel's Egg.

Triumvirat is to ELP what Marillion is to Genesis.

Asia was the worst letdown album I ever bought.
All that incredible talent and it was just utter shiat, unbelievably unlistenable. WTF?

I can think of worse bands reunited (Motley Crue)

I heard that Ratt and Poison played a double-reunion gig and no one has seen hide nore tail of either one since.

itsfullofstars [TotalFark]
NYRBill: ASIA reunion tour
Sorry, you missed it, it was in 1999

no, I saw pretty much every version of Asia starting in '82

Chick Corea is a scientologist, not a genius. Sorry, the two are inherently mutually exclusive.

Interesting keyboardist. Saw him play live and acoustic at the Delphi school chapel in McMinville, Oregon. His son Thad and Daughter Lee both attended the school, which was a thinly veiled Scientology recruitment center aka a private school.

Man has some chops, no doubt.

BTW...remember Danny Keough? The guy who married Lisa Marie Presley before Michael Jackson? He was a student there, too. Thad Corea's best friend, if I remember correctly.

Saw Genesis twice, Invisible Touch and We Cant Dance. Both shows were unforgettable. I really dont understand the Phil Collins bashing though. I liked the earlier Genesis stuff (pre Abacab) and enjoyed the later stuff. Granted the later stuff was pop driven, but, that was the eighties. Given my choice between Phil and company pumping out another album or two (even if it is 80's ish) or most of the 50 cent et al trash that has no musical talent what so ever. I'll take Phil and company any day.

/paid $100 for 2nd row center at the Joe for the Invisible Touch tour, would pay that much again.

First concert I saw in Boston was Chick Corea. Second was Sonic Youth.

Third was Laurie Anderson. I was really disappointed that PG wasn't there to do 'Excellent Birds' or 'Gravity's Rainbow'. But she did have Tony Levin and I believe Adrian Belew in her band, so it was almost like a Gabriel concert.

Best damn concert I've ever seen indoors, bar none.

I know I am late here but IMHO....



Too many notes!

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

OMFG. I am so relieved that other Genesis fans still exist. I was starting to think I was going extinct as the Dodo. Thank goodness that these "angels never know its time to close the book and gracefully decline." Put me down for tix to this show too.

Anyone ever figure out the answer to the riddle in Lurker?
"Clothes of brass, hair of brown, seldom needs to breathe, don't need no wings to fly; with a heart of stone, and a fear of fire and water: Who am I?" Best I could come up with is a bullet, but I could never confirm that.

BTW, check out this label for indie prog-rock, including Steve Hackett stuff:
http://www.kinesiscd.com/

/Tell me my life is about to begin, tell me that I'm a hero
//you better start doin it right
///many too many have stood where I stand

all five members of the original act could soon return to the studio soon.

This is journalese for "probably never."

And I don't think getting Hackett has been the roadblock.

The Gabriel/Genesis Plant/Zeppelin metaphor does not pan out. It's more like Barrett/Floyd in my mind.

You can't say Phil Collins isn't Genesis for the same reason you can't say Velveeta isn't cheese.

It is if you think it is.

RobustMattress: Best answer I ever heard of for the "Lurker" riddle was: a nuclear submarine.

Clothes of brass: Brass fittings have long been used on ocean-going vessels, including submarines.
Hair of brown: Could refer to seaweed draped over a submarine after it surfaces, which is often brown in color.
Seldom needs to breathe: Nuclear subs can stay submerged for weeks.
Don't need no wings to fly: Of course not, it "flies" through the ocean.
And a heart of stone: The core of the sub's reactor is uranium, which is mined from the earth.
And a fear of fire and water: Fire and flooding are two of the worst disasters you can have on submarines.

This answer probably isn't "official," but it's as good as any.