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(The Tennessean)   School's "Got Breakfast" -- now if they could just "Got Grammar" and "Got Teaching Stuff That Matters," we will "Got Education"   (tennessean.com ) divider line
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2005-12-22 04:35:50 PM  
jjorsett

My philosophy is to tell them twice what they need. If they say no a second time, I just take their money.

I've also heard "I don't care what color it is. Just make it blue. That's a business color." I never saw "business" on the side of a Crayola.

Also heard "We'll take the picture. My brother-in-law has a GOOD camera."

I've got a millon of them.

/maybe I should write a book.
//but I'd have to put the commas inside the quotation marks.
 
2005-12-22 04:36:55 PM  
How about a sign for all you neglegent parents who don't insist that their kids perform.

GOT KIDS?
 
2005-12-22 04:37:05 PM  
No, but thanks to one couragous judge, at least one state don' got no 'intelligent design'. I suppose this could be a followup submit link, but the moderators have better things to not approve.
 
2005-12-22 04:47:30 PM  
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"Tiffany, Heather, Cody, Dylan, Dermott, Jordan, Taylor, Brittany, Wesley, Rumer, Scout, Cassidy, Zoe, Chloe, Max, Hunter, Kendal, Katlin, Noah, Sasha, Morgan, Kira, Ian, Lauren, Q-bert, Phil, time for breakfast!"
 
2005-12-22 04:51:23 PM  
Heck, everybody knows it's "Git r done" breakfast in Tennessee
 
2005-12-22 04:52:44 PM  
Commas inside quotes make baby Josh cry.
 
2005-12-22 04:53:40 PM  
glycolized: Did i piss off someone to get my comments deleted? Was I that off topic?

What did you say?
 
2005-12-22 04:55:50 PM  
Maybe it's just me, but if I eat a bowl of cereal or something before work it just makes me hungrier and makes my stomach growl even louder. About the only time I eat a big breakfast is at 3:00 am at Waffle House or the day after drinking I might go to Cracker Barrell.

/mmm...Sunrise Sampler
 
2005-12-22 04:56:10 PM  
"Have got" is what really bristles my ferret tail.

"You've got to do this."
 
2005-12-22 05:01:29 PM  
jjorsett: It's an interesting quirk of federal law that, if your product says 'fruit' in the title, it has to actually contain fruit. Hence the profusion of pseudo-words like "cheez", "krackers," and "eatible."

grape nuts...contains neither grapes nor nuts...?
 
2005-12-22 05:02:03 PM  
glycolized: Not much, just comments about the "Got Milk" cliche in advertising. Weird. I know it posted, cuz FullCodpiece replied to my comment.

It was probably The Illuminati again, covering something up...
 
2005-12-22 05:11:04 PM  
You know why high school kids don't eat breakfast?

BECAUSE THEY'RE UP UNTIL 2AM EVERY NIGHT DOING HOMEWORK (or watching TV or doing drugs or farking each other) AND YOU EXPECT THEM TO BE IN CLASS BEFORE 8:00AM. Something's gotta give, and you should just be thankful it ain't showering.
 
2005-12-22 05:12:07 PM  
got science?

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2005-12-22 05:13:20 PM  
I would also like to register my distaste for the "Got _____?" usage.

However, I am for using punctuation outside of quotation marks unless they are part of the quote. The other way is just unintuitive. So take your "punctuation stays inside the quotation marks" and "stick them up your arse".
 
2005-12-22 05:25:47 PM  
Maybe we should all use whatever diction is cromulent, irregardless of correctness.

/Merriam-Webster states, "use regardless instead."
 
2005-12-22 05:32:15 PM  
Nothing beats Purdue's breakfast club.

/Boiler Up!
 
2005-12-22 05:47:00 PM  
I give three months before some assclown proposes to make school breakfast mandatory.
 
2005-12-22 05:47:59 PM  
jjorsett

Back in my school days, not supplying your kid with sufficient food was called, "child abuse." Now it's called "Let's start another government program."


Today, supplying your kids with Total instead of Lucky Charms is child abuse (and it's why they don't eat breakfast). We don't need a govt. program for this. If the kids aren't thinking clearly in class, then give them the grades they deserve.
 
2005-12-22 05:52:47 PM  
Got a job?
 
2005-12-22 06:02:16 PM  
Hope these kids appreciate having a sit down breakfast like that while they still have the chance.
 
2005-12-22 06:07:33 PM  
i can say this for sure, teachers are the whiniest bunch of good for nothing, lazy, high on themselves, jerks on the face of the planet.

who else gets atleast a starting salary of 26k per year straight out of school with no discernable experience, full benefits, and a garanteed raise every year for working 160 days out of 365?? please? anyone?


meanwhile they don't actually have to be a good teacher, so long as they have a pulse. inane bunch of old bitties with a sprinling of new young bitties in training.

yes i'm quite disgruntled. it took me a very long time to find a teacher i was comfortable leaving my son with. if i hear one more "teacher" rambling on and on about how poor the pay is for their agonizing 160 days worth of actual work my head will explode in on itself.
 
2005-12-22 06:14:57 PM  
Ah, the good ol' days of high school. I remember getting up 10 minutes before it was time to leave, getting dressed as fast as I could, and running downstairs so that I could have my healthy, well balanced breakfast bar and glass of water.

/yeah life sucked
//wasn't my choice!
///RLY!
 
2005-12-22 06:57:05 PM  
happygirl

i can say this for sure, teachers are the whiniest bunch of good for nothing, lazy, high on themselves, jerks on the face of the planet.


Tell us how you really feel...

who else gets atleast a starting salary of 26k per year straight out of school with no discernable experience, full benefits, and a garanteed raise every year for working 160 days out of 365?? please? anyone

People who have the patience to effectively instruct others, typically children, on topics of grave importance to their future? Off the top of my head, I can recall unionized bus drivers in Austin, Texas make much more when starting out AND have much smaller "classes".

meanwhile they don't actually have to be a good teacher, so long as they have a pulse. inane bunch of old bitties with a sprinling of new young bitties in training.

...which is why you don't find many men in the profession, don't you think?

yes i'm quite disgruntled. it took me a very long time to find a teacher i was comfortable leaving my son with. if i hear one more "teacher" rambling on and on about how poor the pay is for their agonizing 160 days worth of actual work my head will explode in on itself.

You should be disgruntled. Education has failed you, as duly noted by the primate-like communication skills you exhibit, and by living in Arizona, you can't expect a whole lot to begin with.

Want to know why I'm not using my Masters in Education to actually go out and teach? Because of people like you. You have no respect and NO FARKING CLUE as to what it means to be an educator. You somehow figured out a way to breed, but the chances are you picked a partner who was of a similar mental composition and was unable to read the instructions on the condom.

/Fark you and your kid
//He's doomed by having you as a mother
///Kudos to all educators
 
2005-12-22 07:00:19 PM  
Thanks sp0rk... we teachers appreciate your support. We really do!
 
2005-12-22 07:10:30 PM  
needs more Breakfast Club pictures
 
2005-12-22 07:14:56 PM  
happygirl
Hahahahahahaha pwned.
 
2005-12-22 07:38:04 PM  
You should be disgruntled. Education has failed you, as duly noted by the primate-like communication skills you exhibit, and by living in Arizona, you can't expect a whole lot to begin with.


i'm sorry you felt the need to lash out at me for my opinion. certainly my opinion is not based upon every teacher. but i have met alot of them through out my life and have been unimpressed with a large majority. arizona school systems are as you pointed out even worse off than the rest of the country.

People who have the patience to effectively instruct others

my sons current instructor is a gem. she is a fine example of what a good teacher should be. she is caring, intelligent, professional, and has the ability to keep the attention of 35 students. unfortunately i think you have confused the issue here.

it's not that i do not appreciate what teachers do. it's that i don't appreciate what they don't do. unfortunately i get to see the effects of what they don't do everyday here in arizona. i want the best for my child.

it is extremely difficult to sing the praises of teachers when the only feedback one gets from them is constant complaints about their own personal choices. perhaps it is because i lived with a teacher for 3 years. the school system here is a growing culture of woe is me. i really don't think thats a culture i want to support.

while i cherish the good teachers i still beleive they are few and far between.
 
2005-12-22 08:01:12 PM  
happygirl

i'm sorry you felt the need to lash out at me for my opinion.

Let's have a pop quiz. Finish this saying:

"Opinions are like _______"

certainly my opinion is not based upon every teacher. but i have met alot of them through out my life and have been unimpressed with a large majority. arizona school systems are as you pointed out even worse off than the rest of the country.

You sure rant like an expert in the field...but you're not in the field. You're on the outside, looking in, apparently through hate-tinted lenses.

my sons current instructor is a gem. she is a fine example of what a good teacher should be. she is caring, intelligent, professional, and has the ability to keep the attention of 35 students. unfortunately i think you have confused the issue here.

I get the strange sensation, simply through your written words, that the problems may not be with "them", but you. After all, law, education, and medicine are the traditional and time tested professions. Which of the three is unlike the other?

it's not that i do not appreciate what teachers do.

Might have mentioned that earlier...

it's that i don't appreciate what they don't do.

A double negative? See me after class. I'm such an evil and incompetent person that I'll sacrifice going home early just to try and help you help yourself.

unfortunately i get to see the effects of what they don't do everyday here in arizona. i want the best for my child.

1. Move, 2. Send your child to a private school, 3. Home school, 4. Improve yourself to the point of facilitating a choice between 1-3 (start by saving $5 a month on that TF shiate), 5. Don't lip off and expect not to get called on it, 6. Take the beam out of your own eye...

it is extremely difficult to sing the praises of teachers when the only feedback one gets from them is constant complaints about their own personal choices.

You mean like trying to teach and then discovering the system is TOTALLY FARKED?

There's this thing called intrinsic motivation: Like musicians, teachers typically educate because they feel joy / happiness / satisfaction from doing a good job and helping someone else. Due to this, many administrators & bean counters choose to pay shiatE and know that people will teach out of the goodness of their hearts.

perhaps it is because i lived with a teacher for 3 years.

Or perhaps you are more nutty than a Baby Ruth?

Great sampling you have there...1 close experience and a handful of teachers from the state ranking 48th (or so) in education spending [mostly due to the elderly / illegal population demographics] - gee, you're the smartest armchair sociologist I've ever met on the internets!

the school system here is a growing culture of woe is me. i really don't think thats a culture i want to support.

Obviously. How about you go try it on for size? Oh, wait, you won't, because it's easier to criticize than to actually do anything about it. Pot, meet kettle.

while i cherish the good teachers i still beleive they are few and far between.

Yes, they are. There is an INSANE amount of turnover in the profession, a dire lack of male teachers (and over-representation of male administrators), and the pay isn't nearly up to par with what the job demands.

You made a big deal out of sterile "160 out of 365" numbers - you're batshiate crazy if you think those 160 days are a walk in the park.

Teaching is one of the few professions where you have NO CHOICE but to "take your work home with you" - if anything, it's because loving students and wanting to see them succeed is a huge personal investment in time, emotion, and effort. In Arizona, I don't doubt the scenario is worse that here in Texas - and I've heard enough horror stories about tired, abused, hungry, delinquent, English deficient students, and FARKED UP PARENTS to understand that teachers don't get paid enough nor the respect they deserve.

Cause and effect at play: Abuse the intelligent ones, they wake up and go elsewhere...all that's left over is the shiate stuck to the bottom of the pot.
 
2005-12-22 08:14:57 PM  
Send your child to a private school

check.

You're on the outside, looking in, apparently through hate-tinted lenses

or

Want to know why I'm not using my Masters in Education to actually go out and teach?


hmmmm.

(start by saving $5 a month on that TF shiate)

would you like me to sponsor you? is that what this is all about.
 
2005-12-22 08:20:07 PM  
Ha!

I'm not using my Masters in Education to teach because the corporate world is much more lucrative, less demanding, and there are a whole lot less "people" riding on my coat-tails.

With my education, I've decided to start my own company. I don't need to waste any more time on Fark, seeing as instead of participating in somebody else's creation, I'd rather start my own and let people like you fork over money.

There's a sucker _________
 
2005-12-22 08:21:53 PM  
you're welcome hun.
 
2005-12-22 08:51:17 PM  
happygirl: you're welcome hun.


Seriously, shut the fark up.
 
2005-12-22 09:23:32 PM  
Calling someone "hun" is slapworthy.
 
2005-12-22 09:37:24 PM  
I've gone back and re-read my posts, I'd have to say I don't think they merit such venom. I think I have explained my position and it's not really something I care to argue further. I get the feeling you read one sentence latched on to it and attacked. If thats the case what would be the point of my attempting to argue further. I have said nothing out of the ordinary here other than I care about the education of my son and am afraid the educational system is in a downward slide. I respect those teachers who have not succumbed to the systems flaws. I have also made it a point not to call any farker names or threatin them with bodily harm....


Oh and the reason I said you're welcome hun is because I sponsored him.
 
2005-12-22 09:45:36 PM  
Blah, I agree with happygirl. Why the venom. We don't have to join the cult of teacher love. Some we like, plenty we don't. Some parents teachers like, most they don't. Everyone on this planet must earn respect. Nobody gets to have it doled out to them just by being in a certain generally underappreciated position... such as being a parent, such as being a teacher.
 
2005-12-22 10:24:34 PM  
I don't let my child have breakfast at school...I feed her here.

We do not qualify for reduced or free meals...so I have to give her $2.00 for lunch and $1.50 for break. Breakfast is $0.75...

Anywho...I think lunch is overpriced. The school had their annual "slurpy turkey" Christmas dinner. I had to pay $3.00 to eat that crap with my kid...she only wanted corn and potatoes...they charged her the full $2.00.
 
2005-12-22 11:44:47 PM  
I prefer the form, "Get ye breakfast."

Wouldn't school kick much more ass if everything was written as if by pirates?
 
Jaq
2005-12-23 12:58:33 AM  
Damn those parents and their feeding their children at home. So... unnatural..

Seriously, do schools get some sort of financial incentive to feed as many kids on the government programs as possible? Is this some sort of American thing?

We had milk or juice in elementary school which we paid 50 cents for, and a cafeteria in high school which was open for breakfast along with lunch, but there was no breakfast or lunch program and the admins didn't try to encourage us to eat there. There wasn't a shortage of kids in high school who came from low to no income families, but most people brought lunches, or bought something from the caf and if little Johnny wasn't being fed at home, then usually social workers were called in... perhaps it would have been nice to have free lunches for really low income families, but there were few that weren't able to buy a loaf of bread and some bologna on their welfare checks.

Who are these free/low cost lunches and breakfasts for anyways? I've read that the American government simply wants a place to dump all of the government subsidised meat and dairy and schools and prisons are an easy place to dump them. Wouldn't the subsidy money better be spent on more teachers, curriculum and text updating and new facilities?
 
2005-12-23 01:15:42 AM  
Why the venom? Simply returning what was given.

"...teachers are the whiniest bunch of good for nothing, lazy, high on themselves, jerks on the face of the planet."

Since I am a teacher, I believe I have the right to be offended when someone who has never met me insults me.

I personally don't believe I am underpaid, simply underappreciated, overworked, and wrongly labeled as lazy or whiny. It probably wouldn't be so bad if it were just one person or even a couple, but it really seems that there is a large contingent of "teacher-haters" out there. And what really gets me is that when you call them on it, and tell them they have needlessly over-generalized, they say something to the effect that they didn't mean every teacher, or that they have had great teachers, or some of their best friends are teachers or some other cheesy cop-out.

I guess my point would be: Don't make blatantly rude, inflammatory comments and not expect an equivalent response from the other side.
 
2005-12-23 01:26:23 AM  
Don't make blatantly rude, inflammatory comments and not expect an equivalent response from the other side

ok point taken, I admit that I made that statement out of anger at things I have experienced when dealing with teachers. I did not mean to be offensive to you or anyone person in particular. I certainly have not met every teacher everywhere and can only attest to the unfortunate dealings I have had.
 
2005-12-23 07:11:17 AM  
Teachers touch children.
 
2005-12-23 08:03:04 PM  
happygirl [TotalFark]

ok point taken, I admit that I made that statement out of anger at things I have experienced when dealing with teachers. I did not mean to be offensive to you or anyone person in particular. I certainly have not met every teacher everywhere and can only attest to the unfortunate dealings I have had.


Translation - you mouth off about stuff before knowing what in the world you are talking about.

I am one of those rare male teachers, but I, too, am thinking about leaving the profession. It's not just the kids (though many of them do deserve severe arse-whuppings), and the low pay (if you really think that we only work "160 out of 365 days of the year", then you lack sufficient knowledge of the demands of the profession to merit having an opinion) or the ridiculous administrators (most of whom would be more suited to mopping floors in Wal-Mart than determining how my workplace gets run) or anything else.

The final straw was parents - ones as venomous as you were. We aren't teachers to them anymore. We're the free babysitting service that allows parents to create slovenly, slack-jawed nimrods and thugs, do NOTHING to make them into productive human beings, and then blame US when junior and little missy act like the shiat-heads that mommy and daddy have permitted them to become. I've seen parental rage directed at TEACHERS that such parents would never direct at the brat who caused problems in the first place.

Look, there are teachers who did nothing but get an education degree and who really don't know their subjects. Many worthless people do get into education. They're fine in elementary school,where it's all basics and simple stuff, but not beyond that. Then there are teachers like myself and a number of other Farkers who spent years and mucho money learning our fields, loving them, and desperately fighting stupid kids, stupid administrators, a stupid system, and stupid parents just to try to help some kids reach the potential that they could achieve if they would give a damn for even a few moments a day.

The system is horrible, but since it's the teacher that people actually SEE on an everyday basis, we get attacked by both sides - students and parents from one side, and bean-counting, arrogant administrators on the other.

So, next time you want to spew venom against teachers, you better bring a better game, missy. For every truly bad teacher out there - and they ARE out there - there are fifty who realize that we could educate some kids if you'd all STFU and let us do our jobs.
 
2005-12-24 12:45:16 AM  
Translation - you mouth off about stuff before knowing what in the world you are talking about.

I would like to reinterate, I have in fact come into contact with A LOT of piss poor excuses for teachers. I am an educated person, no matter how you would like to paint your picture. I am an involved parent who cares very much about the quality of my sons education.

and the low pay (if you really think that we only work "160 out of 365 days of the year", then you lack sufficient knowledge of the demands of the profession to merit having an opinion)

Im not sure where you work but I happen to know for a fact that here in Arizona teachers only work 160 days out of the year and that is including sick time, personal leave and vacation time. I am also aware of the additional continuing education they must complete and that they must bring their work home with them occasionally.

or the ridiculous administrators (most of whom would be more suited to mopping floors in Wal-Mart than determining how my workplace gets run) or anything else.

There are many factors which contribute to the faulty education system.

The final straw was parents - ones as venomous as you were.

I would not be this venomous if it weren't for the experiences Ive had. I am not a parent who allows my child to do whatever they please. I expect him to behave for his teacher as he would behave for me if not even better. My child needed an IEP done when he was younger. I was outright lied to by a teacher. I thought I was working with her and come to find out she was lying to me all along. At that time I knew nothing about how the system worked, which enabled her to string me along at the cost of precious time for my son to be getting the aid he needed all because she didn't want to do the paper work. After it was all said and done she lied to cover her own ass. And you could certainly ask why I didn't have proof or documentation. the answer is simple. I trusted her. She was after all a TEACHER. This was only one such story and I have many more. Please dont pretend this doesn't happen. It's prolific.

We aren't teachers to them anymore. We're the free babysitting service that allows parents to create slovenly, slack-jawed nimrods and thugs, do NOTHING to make them into productive human beings, and then blame US when junior and little missy act like the shiat-heads that mommy and daddy have permitted them to become. I've seen parental rage directed at TEACHERS that such parents would never direct at the brat who caused problems in the first place.

I know there are parents like that however I am not one of them. All I ever wanted from teachers was for them to work with me to help my son. I took him out of school briefly after the incident, but knew I was not capable of home schooling him. I searched and finally found a school and teacher I trusted. I asked for the IEP and it was scheduled for the very next week. Interestingly the school he goes to is private charter not affiliated with the public school system.

So, next time you want to spew venom against teachers, you better bring a better game, missy. For every truly bad teacher out there - and they ARE out there - there are fifty who realize that we could educate some kids if you'd all STFU and let us do our jobs.

I don't need to bring any game. It's unfortunately not a GAME to me. The experiences I have had is what has made me feel the way I do. If you really want to harass me some more, well then it wouldn't be anything different then most of my other experiences with teachers. I'll say again what I have said a multitude of times. I respect and admire those teachers who have avoided becoming so entangled in the defunct system that they themselves are damaged goods. I do believe there are good teachers out there but they are few and far between. Just because a person chooses teaching as their profession does NOT by any stretch of the imagination make them a good person, a truthful person, a trustworthy person, or an intelligent person.
 
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