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(CBC)   It's taken 500 years, but Bolivia is once more in the hands of its native people. Result: A chicken in every pot, cocaine up every nose   (cbc.ca) divider line 157
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2005-12-19 02:43:00 PM
you forgot to mention a monkey on every back...

/ah, the good old days of secret wars are coming back in style
 
2005-12-19 04:09:58 PM
If they actually legalize cocaine there, their tourism will go through the roof.

/sad but true
 
2005-12-19 04:12:09 PM
coca != cocaine people.. just like hemp != pot. Has to be processed.
 
2005-12-19 04:12:12 PM
I think he is going to do great things for his country, but piss off quite a few countries.

Good for him. That's the way it should be. Worry about your own.
 
2005-12-19 04:20:43 PM
Well, I'm willing to at least see how that turns out for them. Hopefully he will not beat the country into bolivian.
 
2005-12-19 04:26:07 PM
sfaulk:
coca != cocaine people.. just like hemp != pot. Has to be processed.

But can it be used for other purposes?

/Seriously... I wouldn't know.
 
2005-12-19 04:26:27 PM
This guy is the new Bush administration boogeyman. He's the Maurice Bishop of the 21st century. BuchCo needs a distraction bad right now and they are going to build this guy up to be Chavez to the nth power.
 
2005-12-19 04:58:51 PM
Is this all so Tyson can fade away into Bolivian?

/didn't RTFA
 
2005-12-19 05:21:12 PM
sfaulk: coca != cocaine people.. just like hemp != pot. Has to be processed.

The natives use a complicated process called 'chewing'.
 
2005-12-19 05:21:46 PM
This is a reaction to BushCo....turning people everywhere into socialists.
 
2005-12-19 05:23:04 PM
bigpete53

*sigh* I came to this thread just to say something similar. Sometimes Fark humbles me.
 
2005-12-19 05:23:24 PM
Social democracy on the rise, sensible drug policies to boot... Good times, good times.
 
2005-12-19 05:23:44 PM
No blood for oil coca!
 
2005-12-19 05:24:35 PM
it nice that Bush has screwed up American policy so much that people running in foreign elections compete to see who publically hates Bush the most and the biggest hater wins the vote.
 
2005-12-19 05:26:39 PM
esteban9

Just a little heads up - the world does not revolve around your country! Most of us live our lives without really giving a shiat who your president is!


/the more you know!
 
2005-12-19 05:26:53 PM
Looks like this guy drank his Hatorade.
 
2005-12-19 05:27:33 PM
Maybe if we're lucky we can send our dope addicts there.
 
2005-12-19 05:27:53 PM
The indigenous people use coca leaves as a mild stimulent. Trying to eradicate the coca harvest in Bolivia would be similar to trying to eradicate the beer harvest here in the states.

I've tried coca leaves (mailed to me by a friend who was in Bolivia while in the Peace Corps). They're bitter, have to be chewed with baking soda and make your mouth go numb. Whoopie. Not exactly the same as doing lines off a whore's ass in LA circa 1988.

/legalize the leaf!
 
2005-12-19 05:27:56 PM
There's nothing wrong with a little llello.
 
2005-12-19 05:31:24 PM
I don't like cocaine, it smells funny.
 
2005-12-19 05:31:56 PM
submitter: you provincial farktard. I bet the blow you got crammed up your gaping sinuses is keeping their GNP in the red.
 
2005-12-19 05:32:07 PM
"His closest contender, conservative Jorge Quiroga..."

Isn't that the name of a reporter for channel 5 in Boston?
 
2005-12-19 05:33:44 PM
Plots to kill him start in 1...2...3....

/Has Pat Robertson weighed in on this guy yet??
 
2005-12-19 05:33:45 PM
The first story I found on this had a BEAUTIFUL pic of the guy standing with the classic "Dignified leader" expression on his face, holding a coca branch, with white powder sprinkled over his head and those of everyone standing behind him.

I, strangely, can't find that pic now. But it was PRICELESS.
 
2005-12-19 05:33:52 PM
Good to see South America finally gaining some real independence. Won't be long before we start hearing of Bolivia in the same terms as Venezuela, though.
 
2005-12-19 05:34:03 PM
It's just the plant, the tea is probably like a few dark cups of coffee, and just as addicting. Probably tastes like bitter ass though.

I see no probem with this.

"Bolivia has seen five presidents in four years, with street protests forcing out two presidents in the past two years."
Hmmm, how about that.
 
cot
2005-12-19 05:34:15 PM
Thatguy: The indigenous people use coca leaves as a mild stimulent. Trying to eradicate the coca harvest in Bolivia would be similar to trying to eradicate the beer harvest here in the states.

Or even caffeine. Can you imagine the uproar if they tried to make caffeine illegal here?

Of course, we aren't super concentrating caffeine and selling it to other countries, either.
 
2005-12-19 05:34:15 PM
"If [the U.S.] wants relations, welcome," said Morales, who waved a coca branch as he went to vote on Sunday. "But no to a relationship of submission."

Yeah, that truly sounds like somebody absolutely hateful who got to his sovereign nation's seat of executive power by hating other people.

"Well, we'll make our own rules, but if you want to have a relationship with us, that's fine, but no, we won't crack to everything you say, because we are, after all, our own country." = America-bashing?
 
2005-12-19 05:34:26 PM
I get no kick from cocaine. If I were to take even one sniff it would bore me ter....rifically too. But I get a kick out of you.
 
2005-12-19 05:35:31 PM
One of two things will come of this.

1. The native farmer with the rustic mannerisms and limited formal education will lead the country into chaos which will resualt in unrest for years.

2. He'll be little more than a figurehead with competant advisors who will govern the country with limited reforms.

I think 1 is more likely based on the way the guys campaign retoric sounds. Thank in simon bolivar the country named in your honor is about to see some more revolution.
 
2005-12-19 05:35:51 PM
The guy is going to cut off all foreign capital flows. The result will be total disaster. Just because he claims to be "for the workers" doesn't mean that his policies will actually benefit them.
 
2005-12-19 05:37:39 PM
Good. Let them experiment with their new coca soaked society. We can sit back and watch the show.

/better hurry up with the southern border fence. Methinks it will come in handy...
 
2005-12-19 05:37:56 PM
Cocaine legal? No way! The horror!!
 
2005-12-19 05:38:33 PM
BiffDangler: The guy is going to cut off all foreign capital flows. The result will be total disaster. Just because he claims to be "for the workers" doesn't mean that his policies will actually benefit them.

And just because you weigh in on geopolitical events doesn't mean that your opinion will be actually factual.

Let's wait and see what happens! Falsifiability is so much more interesting than conjecture!
 
2005-12-19 05:38:38 PM
For this guy's sake, I sincerely hope Bush has stopped doing blow.
 
2005-12-19 05:38:58 PM
Good. Let them experiment with their new coca soaked society. We can sit back and watch the show.

Yeah, because none of our fearless congressmen and senators ever touch cocaine.
 
2005-12-19 05:39:19 PM
HairBolus: it nice that Bush has screwed up American policy so much that people running in foreign elections compete to see who publically hates Bush the most and the biggest hater wins the vote.

They're not voting for a Bush hater they're voting for the guy who they think will help them out of poverty. No need for paranoia, it's not a personal thing against the US.
 
2005-12-19 05:39:41 PM
another poor country where the people loses their mind and vote for the worst candidate hoping for a change.
how about thinking before voting? how about tha law requiring that every candidate needs an X amount of year of experience in the goverment before going for the precidency? isn't that what happens at every other job position??
 
2005-12-19 05:39:47 PM
Of course, we aren't super concentrating caffeine and selling it to other countries, either.


Yeah we americans are truely an altruistic lot. Instead we concentrate technology and potential energy and sell it to irresponsible heads of third world states. Or trade for cocaine...
 
2005-12-19 05:40:06 PM
Ever friendly wikipedia has info on the traditional (non-cocaine) uses for coca.

It's traditionaly an importatn part of the local diet and society, and they don't want to give it up jsut becasue we can't keep our noses clean. Sounds reasonable to me.
 
2005-12-19 05:40:31 PM
My parents climbed to Machu Picchu in Peru years ago. To manage in the relatively thin air, they were given coca leaves to chew on and told to swallow a bit of the juice if they felt faint. They said it tasted like ass (well, they didn't say it exactly like that...) but did the trick.
 
axd
2005-12-19 05:40:50 PM
Reminds me of the "Andes" episode of that Comedy Central travel show, "Gerhardt Reinke's Wanderlust."
Gerhardt gets addicted to Bolivian coca, then kidnapped by a paramilitary communist organization called P.U.B.E. (poo-bay!)
 
2005-12-19 05:41:40 PM
I dont mind him legalizing the coca crop, it is in his countries best interest. But nationalizing the oil industry, Yeah that has worked out SOOOO well for the poor people in Mezico, and Venezuala.
 
2005-12-19 05:41:42 PM
mark12A, uhh dude it's already a coca soaked society. All of latin america is.

like $2 a gram soaked.

/knew a few el-salvadorans
 
2005-12-19 05:42:09 PM
ilcavero: another poor country where the people loses their mind and vote for the worst candidate hoping for a change.
how about thinking before voting? how about tha law requiring that every candidate needs an X amount of year of experience in the goverment before going for the precidency? isn't that what happens at every other job position??



Why do you hate America?
 
2005-12-19 05:42:30 PM
2005-12-19 05:35:31 PM Maxor

...or 3. other (cue 'western') governments make sure that this shall not pass
 
2005-12-19 05:43:49 PM
@gibbonposture
They said it tasted like ass

You know what they use to wipe their behinds with over there, right?
 
2005-12-19 05:44:03 PM
HairBolus:

it nice that Bush has screwed up American policy so much that people running in foreign elections compete to see who publically hates Bush the most and the biggest hater wins the vote.

I got news for you,(try reading a book sometime) Anti-Americanism has been a winning ticket in Latin America for about two centuries.
 
2005-12-19 05:44:23 PM
Banning coca in bolivia is like banning wine in france. It just doesn't go over well with the natives because they've chewed it for thousands of years. Used to even be used a measure of distance (how much one could chew during a walk) and time.

Coca-cola buys coca as well, its part of the formula.

cocaine the drug separates the cocaine chemical from the plant and purifies it into a concentrate. the leaves themselves don't have a whole lot (not enough to be physically addictive anyway)
 
2005-12-19 05:45:30 PM
But nationalizing the oil industry, Yeah that has worked out SOOOO well for the poor people in Mezico, and Venezuala.

umm... yeah kinda
 
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