Get off yer fat ass and ski.

I, for one, am waiting for the next Missing White Girl. Hopefully this one is hot.

/second post

ha ha

i thought a snow mobile was hanging art made out of snow?

Spyin' on Amuricans is hard work.

Bison still exist?

Poor poor snowmobilers.

National Security Snowmobile Agency

what ever happened to old-fashioned school shootings?

Polaris >>> Yamaha, biatches

Ah Yellowstone in Winter. Nice quiet crisp snowy landscapes, cute animals and drunken asshats on death machines. Yay.

Snowmobiles are one of the bastions of 2-stoke freaky power around. They are too much fun and they hardly screw up the environment that much.

Environmentalist suck arse. You are boring people.

If you hate snowmobiles, you hate America!

States not, the article does, what the submitter implies.

As a hunter and an outdoorsman, I don't see 750+ snowmobiles per day as a good thing. I'd imagine the noise and damage caused would detract from the beauty the park offers as well as disrupt the natural habitat of many beautiful and/or tasty creatures.

However, I've never been to Yellowstone and don't really know the first thing about it, so it's a good thing I'm not allowed to make policy decisions on the subject.

signine

Nice!

I'm guessing she'll have a nice white girl name like Tiffany Baker or Brianne Miller. She'll be 17, and she'll have been last seen at the movies. Well, actually, getting into some dude's car at the club near the movie theater after smoking some crack in the alley, but her friends will say "the movies".

Her dad's name will be Dave and her mom's will be Anne. They will say "she's just such a lovely person, she's every parent's dream. She's never been in trouble before, please someone help find our baby! She wanted to go to Ole Miss and study Journalism."

Then they will bring in two black men in their 20s for questioning, and Fox News will call it "Breaking News."

c0dem0nkey: I don't see 750+ snowmobiles per day as a good thin

Yellowstone is 2 and a quarter times larger than Rhode Island. I'm pretty sure those 750 sleds aren't using the same area.

/Going snowmobiling this afternoon

Koch: Yellowstone is 2 and a quarter times larger than Rhode Island. I'm pretty sure those 750 sleds aren't using the same area.

Well I certainly can't argue with that, and putting it into that perspective does indeed make 750 seem a very, very small number.

/wishes it was snowing

My main problem with Snowmobilers is their lack of respect for private property. I had an asshole last year run into my well cap in my front yard. Didn't do any damage to my well but it tore up his sled pretty good. He had the nerve to come to my front door and start biatching at me because my wellcap wasn't marked and saying he was going to sue me to get his sled replaced. I laughed at him asked him what he was doing riding on my property then I called the police so they could charge him with trespassing.

/Man that was a Great Christmas

2005-12-19 11:34:18 AM Koch

Polaris >>> Yamaha, biatches

And AC owns you all.

I can see special protection inside a national park, but i enjoy taking my vintage 2 stroke dirtbike out on national forest and BLM lands quite often. I think noise is a bigger concern than outright pollution on newer sleds as they are fuel injected and most are now 4-stroke. Cannot imagine going out there in that weather though, must be rediculously cold.

SupplySideJesus: And AC owns you all.

Snow kittens? Ick.
*spits*

/just kidding, they make some nice sleds too. For ride quality I'd probably buy a Skidoo next if the damn things would start easy in cold weather.

GreenAdder,

I don't mind if they ride in the drainage ditch that runs down my road my main problem is with the guys that like to cut through everyones front yards because they don't like riding next to the road.

My neighbors on both sides put up snow fences to prevent this from happening this year and so far noone has tried to ride through them or stopped and treid to take them down like last year.

Although I will say this it is mostly Downstaters who are jerks on their sleds.

Koch

Snow kittens? Ick.
*spits*

I'm so coming for you first... just as soon as that second recall service is done.

/Phear my awkward clutching

Come to the great white north and spend you money! We love anything with a motor up here and you can drive anywhere you feel like. Americans are too busy buying everything up and then slapping a fence around it and scream "MINE BIATCHS! HAHA, GET OFF!". It only takes one idiot to ruin it for the rest of us.

If you are dressed in the right gear, you don't get cold. The first 10-15 mins suck but you warm right up after that. I can guarantee that you will have the warmest winter ever. You get used to the cold and all of a sudden snow doesn't suck so bad.....plus, the adrenaline rush of over 130HP under your ass REALLY puts a smile on you face. Get out and enjoy the winter.....you might even enjoy it. Awwww.....but then you wouldn't have anything to complain about.

This is my next sled (pops) as soon as I can talk the homefront CFO into it.

Koch

My current (no skills): http://www.arcticcat.com/snowmobiles/lineups/specs.asp?y=41&c=91&s=47&m=316

And incidentally... the SkiDoo was rated best in the 600 class this year. Something about the steering on the Fusion that everyone hated.

/just sayin'.

National Parks constitute less than 7% of the lower 48 land area, and are supposed to be our most protected areas, where people leave the least possible trace that they have been there (including noise).

Given that snowmobilers can use private property (with permission) and on almost any other public lands (national forests, BLM land, etc...), why do they have to snowmobile in National Parks?

/everyone should be an environmentalist

"President Bush to wiretap critics: suck it" News at 11

Snowmobiles are one of the bastions of 2-stoke freaky power around. They are too much fun and they hardly screw up the environment that much.

Environmentalist suck arse. You are boring people.

Yea, sure whatever. Snowmobilers and their ATV riding ilk are the bane of campers and wilderness enthusiasts everywhere.

"Let's take nature and make it loud and drunk"!!!

What debate?

Just keep them the F*CK out of wilderness areas where you have a lot of foot travel and we won't threaten to ban them again...

:D

SupplySideJesus: And incidentally... the SkiDoo was rated best in the 600 class this year. Something about the steering on the Fusion that everyone hated.

No kidding? What mag? I'll have to look for it. How does your cat handle btw? I like the smaller/lighter sleds that I can throw around, and I have much more use for quick than fast.

Koch

SnoGoer, last month. Wasn't even close... everyone picked the Rev.

If you like the quick, you'd love the F7. Zero to 100 and back to zero again... that's the kind of performance a guy can really use. 140 HP out of the box, no mods. Handling is terrific, but took some getting used to as it's a narrow package. Lots of body english in the tight spots, but goes right where you point it.

Whidbey
Ban this. It snows, we ride on it. In the springtime, it melts, and you get to put the Birkenstocks back on for your little nature walk.

Won't someone think of the horsepower junkies?

I have no problem with snowmachines, In fact I spent the better part of last winter riding trails even did two poker runs. Snowmobiling is a blast but like I said earlier it is the drunk assholes that ruin it for the rest of us.

/Don't drink and sled
//No seriously a 35MPH collision with a tree is no joke

SupplySideJesus: SnoGoer, last month. Wasn't even close... everyone picked the Rev.

Great, thanks. Two different friends have MXZs; they ride like a dream, but are a complete pain in the ass to get it cold started.

45cal: Snowmobiling is a blast but like I said earlier it is the drunk assholes that ruin it for the rest of us.

I agree.

whidbey

This "debate" reminds me of all the "country" boys I know who brag about being outdoorsmen with all their "huntin' and feeshin'" skills but who, in the next breath, complain when it's too hot, too cold, or they have to walk uphill. To the majority of them, being an outdoorsman means driving your 4WD to within 50 yards of your deer stand so don't have to tote the 12-pack too far through the woods. And, oh, be sure to wear your snake chaps too - them garter snakes are scary.

/if walking is too tough for you, stay at home and watch OLN.

45cal, GreenAdder

There's no excuse whatsoever for anyone to be riding on your property, much less that close to your home. And damn sure no excuse for doing it drunk. Remember kids, it's not the speed that kills you, it's the sudden stop. And 45cal with, well, a 45cal.

Koch
Two different friends have MXZs; they ride like a dream, but are a complete pain in the ass to get it cold started.

Ironic tag?

/see also, ATVs

treecologist: To the majority of them, being an outdoorsman means driving your 4WD to within 50 yards of your deer stand so don't have to tote the 12-pack too far through the woods.

Majority? Bullshiat. Tiny fraction, yes. And I'll give you the courtesy of not stereotyping the groups you identify with. And not using redneck spelling.

SupplySideJesus: Ironic tag?

First start of the day. My Polaris starts on the first or second pull always. I've seen these guys down to long sleeved T-shirts by the time they get their sleds going (below zero mornings).

treecologist: /if walking is too tough for you, stay at home and watch OLN.

Screw that.

You keep those gasoline belching noisy bastards off our trails where it's supposed to be QUIET and UNMOTORIZED.

You've got plenty of places designated for your overgrown toys already...

The_lorax,

Here in Michigan ATV"S are supposed to use only set trails that have been approved they catch you riding in any other area and it is a pretty hefty fine.

I still think I am going to get a hovercraft that way I can use it in the winter and the summer around here.

And unfortunately, many of the environmental groups have no desire to work with non-hiking outdoor enthusiasts. Here in Orange County, mountain biking is the primary sport in the local mountains. So, during the last Cleveland National Forest review period, the Sierra Club tried to get the whole thing designated as wilderness. They even set up these fake mountain bike groups who were willing to give up the land for the greater good. And down here, almost all of the trail work and preservation is done my mountain bike groups. If the environmentalists would actually work together with outdoor enthusiasts, a lot of good could be done. Instead, they just say that if you're not walking, then you're evil.

Also, don't buy Patagonia. They gave the Sierra Club a lot of money for their deciteful effort.

Koch
The irony being that they're cold weather toys. Polaris has always had an excellent reputation for ease of starting. Mine's a 3-4 pull cold start, and it's an '05 with 300 miles on it.

/walks away in shame


whidbey
You've got plenty of places designated for your overgrown toys already

And those of us who are responsible not only use them, but pay to.

I live near Yellowstone and what people don't realize is that snowmobiles and wildlife use the same paths in winter to move around - it's not like animals can just go anywhere in the park when they want to get away from the noise and pollution. The bison, deer and moose are trying to forage and survive, while the snowmobilers are just recreating. You tell me which is a priority. Go snowmobile in the Nat'l Forest(s) (which we have tons of all around the park); that's why the Nat'l Forest motto is "land of many uses."

SupplySideJesus: an '05 with 300 miles on it.

I'm jealous, 3 or 4 pulls or not.

Koch

Don't be. The miles are low because of the recall. After a day's ride, I'd have to throw a couple of belts under the hood so the clutch would have something to munch on overnight.

Turns out the sheave adjuster (major clutch component) was threaded wrong at the factory, causing the assembly to back out a tad every so often, thus randomly throwing kevlar all over New Hampshire (relax, greenies... I always take out what i brought in).

Since been fixed. I hope.