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(Newsday)   War on Christmas takes left turn into bizarro world as man decorates home with blood-spattered Santa holding a severed head as statement against commercialization and secularization of Christmas   (nynewsday.com) divider line 162
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2005-12-13 06:38:47 PM
As seen on the O RLY factor in
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2005-12-13 06:46:03 PM
Wow, that headline was awesome. And the pic in the article is even better.
 
2005-12-13 06:54:28 PM
So does anyone actually think there's a war on Christmas?

To me, it boils down to non-Christians wanting the government to treat Christianity with the same level of non-preference it treats other religions. That's all there is to it, there is no war on Christmas. People are free to celebrate Chrismas, Kwanzaa, Yule, or even Cosmic Muffin Day, for all I care.
 
2005-12-13 07:07:42 PM
People should just accept that Christmas is a secular holiday and will remain so until the birth of the Black Jesus.

Then your ass is grass.
 
2005-12-13 07:13:20 PM
Water's wet, sky's blue. And ol' Satan Claus, Jimmy - he's out there. And he's just gettin' stronger.
 
2005-12-13 07:13:42 PM
Bad taste knows no political party.
 
2005-12-13 07:18:37 PM
smackem yackem: Water's wet, sky's blue. And ol' Satan Claus, Jimmy - he's out there. And he's just gettin' stronger.

I love anyone who quotes that movie.

So these people who live in a Manhattan mansion decorated with gargoyles and a statue of death are decrying materialism AND the lack of religion in Christmas?

Something smells like.......publicity hounds!
 
2005-12-13 07:21:24 PM
I like it.

 
2005-12-13 07:22:21 PM
GoodDamon: People are free to celebrate Chrismas, Kwanzaa, Yule, or even Cosmic Muffin Day, for all I care.

You forgot Ramendan.
 
2005-12-13 07:30:25 PM
 
2005-12-13 07:32:26 PM
Silent Strider Ramendan!

I love that Holiday! I set up a make your own Ramen noodle station!!! It's FABULOUS!!11LOL11!!
 
2005-12-13 07:39:05 PM
King Diamond! That's my favorite Christmas song.

Favorite Christmas movie, appropriate for this story:

 
2005-12-13 07:42:10 PM
So, how exactly does this help? It just shows who the nutjob of the neighborhood is.

Anyways, I like Santa Claus AND Jesus, so there.
 
2005-12-13 07:51:37 PM
Christmas was originally a celebration by Northern Europeans observing the winter solstice. When the Catholic Church successfully got a foothold in North Europe, they wanted to ease the conversion of the pagans there to Christianity by allowing and observing a birthday celebration for Jesus around the time that the pagans would be celebrating the solstice. It is well known that Jesus was not even born in December.
 
2005-12-13 07:54:30 PM
Antisyzygy: It is well known that Jesus was not even born in December.

However, how long have they been celebrating it as such? Who cares at this point? December 25th is Christmas, the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. I don't get people who feel like arguing about it eons after they've been celebrating it as such.
 
2005-12-13 08:01:35 PM
woodpecker from mars

Christmas is NOT a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ to everyone. It is a celebration in general, where giving gifts, enjoying the company of family and friends, as well as feasting and becoming inebriated are enjoyed. To think that a holiday that is so wide spread amongst those of many beliefs is soley a Christian holiday is asinine and very closed minded. Most of the symbols of Christmas are actually pagan or secular, i.e. the tree, yule logs, egg nog, Santa Clause ect. To even still cling to all these symbols as being Christian in origin is naive.
 
2005-12-13 08:08:16 PM
Antisyzygy: To even still cling to all these symbols as being Christian in origin is naive.

I'm an atheist. I was just defending people who still view Christmas as the birth of Christ. I hardly think it's naive to hang onto that, if that's part of what their faith is based on. And the people who "cling" to the idea that the holiday denotes the birth of their savior are not the kind to "cling" onto eggnog, yule logs and Santa Claus.

Why must people be so sanctimonious about things they don't believe in?
 
2005-12-13 08:14:03 PM
Thank goodness, I was starting to think that a day might go by without one of these war on Christmas flamewars. My faith in Fark is not lost.
 
2005-12-13 08:14:04 PM
It would make more sense if the severed head was that of jesus.

Santa killing him and taking his place and all.......
 
2005-12-13 08:14:23 PM
Antisyzygy:

It is well known that Jesus was not even born in December.

Hell it is well known he wasn't even "born" at all. He was created by a writer.
 
2005-12-13 08:15:32 PM
Sad, stern beat fark to this one.

I thought he was supposed to rip fark headlines off, not the other way around.
 
2005-12-13 08:15:49 PM
That's Ann Coulter's head that Santa is holding.
 
2005-12-13 08:17:40 PM
woodpecker from mars

Review the wording that I used in my former statement. I did not say that Christians do not have the prinicipal or right to celebrate Christmas as the birth of Jesus, I only said that it is not soley a Christian holiday. I intepreted your latter argument as not including other non-Christian beliefs in the celebration of Christmas, however, now I see that you do in fact consider this aspect as per your former argument.
 
2005-12-13 08:18:18 PM
How dare they make fun of the most powerful diety of the Christian religion, SANTA!
 
2005-12-13 08:18:40 PM
Joel Krupnik and Mildred Castellanos decked the front of their Manhattan mansion


I'm all for Santas holding severed heads, but it takes a really "special" person to do that in front of their "Manhattan mansion" and talk about how it's a statement against "commercialism." People in any mansion have no place lecturing other people on "commercialism," much less someone with one in Manhatten.
 
2005-12-13 08:19:35 PM
Antisyzygy


So the church just embraced and extended some things? :)

I really wonder how many "War on Christmas" Christians are aware of that fact (and/or are in denial of it). Or maybe they really believe that this is the day Christ went out with his trusty axe, chopped down a pine tree, planted it in his house, and decorated it with baubles and candles.
 
2005-12-13 08:20:20 PM
Happy Christween.

hmmmmmmm.....or is that

Merry Hallomas.
 
2005-12-13 08:21:58 PM
Me be thinking we took a left turn into bizzaro world round about 2001 if I recalls.

Also, Catholic Church and Roman Empire and Julian Calendar were one in the same (More or less) back in the day. Seeing what they did appropriating Greek civilization I am not too surprised at the way things turned out 2000 later - notwithstanding the actual survival of the whole gang and all.

bring on the madness! me likey!
 
2005-12-13 08:22:37 PM
Here's a picture of the guy I found:

 
2005-12-13 08:22:45 PM

 
2005-12-13 08:27:24 PM
Yikes.


Reminds me of a MELVINS album cover or two.
 
TOO
2005-12-13 08:27:58 PM
If they were looking a way to alienate the whole rest of the "War on Christmas" Movement, they probably found it.

As for myself, I have a feeling that was their intention. This little stunt feels satirical to me, and I bet that the WoC people denounce it and they reveal their ruse in the next week or two.

All predictions true or your money back!
 
2005-12-13 08:29:05 PM
How European.
 
2005-12-13 08:29:19 PM
Anyone who even believes there a "war on christmas" is a moron to begin with.

Happy holidays!
 
2005-12-13 08:31:10 PM
woodpecker from mars not to nitpics but it's not the 25 December for the Eastern Church.

Back to the war I find all this funny since the Puritans forbiatchristmas. Cromwel made it illegal.

I remember in the 60's how all we ever heard is that we had lost the true meaning of Christmas. And everyone went on and on how it has been ruined by commercialisation. First we complained that the big stores took over Christmas, now we complain that they dropped the ball.

By the way I remember my mother sending "Happy Holyday Cards' because we lived in Montreal and soooo many people we knew were Jewish.
 
2005-12-13 08:31:56 PM
What's this guy's Fark login name?
 
2005-12-13 08:32:56 PM
Hell it is well known he wasn't even "born" at all. He was created by a writer.

I think it's pretty well documented in secular texts that he did exist. You can question whether or not he's divine, the Romans didn't think so, but he did exist.
 
2005-12-13 08:33:02 PM
Okay, I get the Santa and the severed head, but what's the deal with his penis gourd?
 
2005-12-13 08:33:57 PM
So this guy claims Christmas is in the bible. Anyone want to give me the verse?
 
2005-12-13 08:34:35 PM
But, shouldn't Santa have a bucket on his head?
 
2005-12-13 08:35:08 PM
Reminds me of...
 
2005-12-13 08:35:52 PM
No offence, but this Christmas and seperation BS is just getting annoying!!!

I saw a poll on Yahoo a few weeks ago asking users if they thought calling a Christmas tree a holiday tree was a disgrace. At the time, 3000 people had voted, and 95% of them agreed it was a disgrace. 3% of people didn't care, leaving a mere 2% of people who thought calling a Christmas tree a holiday tree was a good idea. And to keep political BS to a low, this was on Yahoo and I'm sure more than 2% of Liberals voted in that poll.

I kinda wish the media would stop reporting on attention whores like this douche who seem to take an extremist view on such things. I'm sure Jesus would approve of having such a demented display to celebrate the holiday season... (/sarcasm) Personally, this crap isn't newsworthy until the City of New York tells this asshat to take down his display cause it is found to be obscene.
 
2005-12-13 08:35:53 PM
"'Christmas has religious origins,' he said. 'It's in the Bible.'"


 
2005-12-13 08:36:16 PM
ChickenFriedMonkey:

I think it's pretty well documented in secular texts that he did exist. You can question whether or not he's divine, the Romans didn't think so, but he did exist

Documented where?
 
2005-12-13 08:37:10 PM
ChickenFriedMonkey:

I think it's pretty well documented in secular texts that he did exist. You can question whether or not he's divine, the Romans didn't think so, but he did exist.

No, in secular texts as well as religious and canonical it is very evident that he is a fictional character.
 
2005-12-13 08:37:12 PM
Before there was Fark we had National Lampoon, anybody remember that? They always had some cool Santa stuff....
/god, Zyklon is drunk.......
 
2005-12-13 08:37:18 PM
GoodDamon: "So does anyone actually think there's a war on Christmas?"


Only Congress can declare war. What we have now are "advisors" serving at the North Pole.
 
2005-12-13 08:39:21 PM
Ok, now that I've said that it's evident that I was talking out my ass. I thought that there were a bunch of Roman writers who wrote about him, but I'm having trouble coming up with any.
 
2005-12-13 08:40:40 PM
I don't understand why this particular couple and their display get to be a lightning rod for the "war on Christmas" debate. I would think that we can all agree that this couple is neither conservative nor liberal but they are instead simply batshiat insane. They should be a uniting force, drawing us together from all our different backgrounds of belief, in goodwill and fellowship to laugh and point at them. And possibly egg their mansion.
 
2005-12-13 08:40:53 PM
Fatality!
 
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