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(Some Spook)   The FBI's files on famous people... Einstein... Orwell... Rockefeller.. Lucille Ball?   ( divider line
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2002-05-12 11:28:50 AM  
Well, of course, Lucille Ball.

She was married to that Cuban fellow, after all.
2002-05-13 01:52:28 AM  
Hoover was jealous of her lovely dresses
2002-05-13 01:53:01 AM  
I didnt notice Elvis anywhere on there... uh huh.
2002-05-13 01:53:55 AM  
oh they used his last name.. like he was human.. pfft
2002-05-13 01:57:45 AM  
Joo got a ladda 'splainin' to do, Lucy!
2002-05-13 02:03:42 AM  
Was Einstein really a communist?
2002-05-13 02:06:30 AM  
Ohh noo!! She registered to vote for a legitimate political party!! that's definetly unamerican
2002-05-13 02:07:34 AM  
Yahoo for school! Yahoo for communism!
2002-05-13 02:08:36 AM  
It's a good thing I live in America so the government can't spy on me like that.

Oh wait.
2002-05-13 02:11:03 AM  
crazy, man.. crazy
2002-05-13 02:20:01 AM  
The FBI: a long tradition of investigating the wrong people.
2002-05-13 02:26:09 AM  
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2002-05-13 02:26:45 AM  
Still not as bad as the NSA

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2002-05-13 02:36:12 AM  
what no Che Guevara?
2002-05-13 02:39:30 AM  
Our tax dollars hard at work...
Seriously, it was a different world back then. I was especially interested to read about Albert Einstein and his Communist affliations. I guess it pays to be a world famous scientist. He was well known for his pacist views yet in 1933 he urged the nations of Europe to arm themselves and oust Hitler. This was pretty gusty, as Albert was living in Germany at the time. As it turned out, not even Hitler was up to ganking the most famous scientist of the age, although Nazi stormtroopers did trash Einstien's summer home.
Go figure.
2002-05-13 02:45:28 AM  
So Albert Einstein was a communist? Where does that leave my good friend Harmonia? Hmmm..?

I bet they got their file open on you Harmonia, Bro! Just don't go buying any Michael Moore books on your credit card. Then they will have you! You listen to me.

~ Pinky ~
2002-05-13 02:45:59 AM  
Communism is un-American. Communism was a serious threat.

These were influential individuals with communist links. The FBI is the Federal Bureau of Investigation. They investigate. They keep tabs on things worth keeping tabs on.

Just because the FBI has a file on you does not mean you are guilty of a crime.
2002-05-13 02:47:21 AM  
Obvious communist:
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2002-05-13 02:51:32 AM  
Obviously not communist:
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2002-05-13 02:52:33 AM  
Lucille Ball was fairly open about the fact she was a 'card-carrying communist. This is in no way news.
2002-05-13 02:54:36 AM  
Err, okay... school, Communism.
2002-05-13 02:57:30 AM  
The FBI: a long tradition of investigating the wrong people.

Well, if they don't investigate, how do they know they're the wrong people? ;)
2002-05-13 03:04:03 AM  
"(somespook)" ?

wow.....why not (somecoon) or even (somen|gg3R)

2002-05-13 03:04:43 AM  
Sure most people who were affiliated with the communist movement werent' criminals, but there were soviet backed plots to infiltrate the world in various ways, see a certain top FBI official, the theft of our nuclear secrets, ect ect. Far greater crimes than the offensive against communism are being perpretrated against the American public today but are going unnoticed because they dont' effect the elite in charge or the apathetic masses. DMCA, war on drugs, censorship, anti-protest measures, ect.
2002-05-13 03:11:46 AM  
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2002-05-13 03:16:15 AM  
What Paradoxflux said except those things *do* effect the apathetic masses. The media and the 2 party domination lull us into thinking we actually live in a democracy.
2002-05-13 03:18:27 AM  
It was indeed a different world back then. If you really think that the FBI and HUAC were the only bad guys, then read up on some of the stuff released after the fall of the Soviet Union. There were indeed Soviet agents over here attempting to steer well-minded and honest left-leaning Americans.

In a fight, both sides will usually do things they will regret later. Although the ends do not justify the means, I feel that "our side" was right, and I'm glad we won the cold war.
2002-05-13 04:14:43 AM  
Wow, they really jumped on anything that was communist... i did think it was funny tho that they had a nice laundry list on McCarthy, too tho :)

Theres a difference between supporting communism, and trying to storm the whitehouse with a gun... we went a little overboard and trying to kill anyone who was even slightly left in the cold war, especially the McCarthy hearings
2002-05-13 04:16:13 AM  
05-13-02 03:04:03 AM Vegasj
"(somespook)" ?
wow.....why not (somecoon) or even (somen|gg3R)

spook is just a term used in the intelligence community for someone who goes out and does field work, its not racist
2002-05-13 05:38:19 AM  
We don't live in a democracy,ShaggyWon, we live in a representative republic. I really wish people would get that right. There are democratic principles in our republic, but last I checked, there were 485 people in a few big rooms in Washington who can attest that we are not a democracy.

"...and to the REPUBLIC, for which it stands..."
2002-05-13 05:38:49 AM  
I can't wait til they release the secret files on these dope peddlers...
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2002-05-13 07:29:07 AM  
You see guys, the FBI was right for invading every aspect of Martin Luther King Jr.'s private life as well as attempting to discredit him by spreading false and unverified 'information'. He expressed a viewpoint that was different and therefore he gave up his right to privacy.

</Dictator Hoover>
2002-05-13 07:37:34 AM  
Wow, most of any given page is blacked out. That's real "informative."
Oh, well. At least the FBI gave a token gesture of sharing information.
2002-05-13 08:11:24 AM  
Frank Sinatra has over 1200 pages of stuff! Not bad for a skinny 4-F goomba-wanna-be from Hoboken. oh and he could sing too.
2002-05-13 08:45:41 AM  
It's refreshing to see how Hoover covered up his own insecurities of being a homosexual by attacking and compiling worthless information on those people America admired...what a shame, he shoulda just came out of the closet, for he even stated at being a homosexual was not only deviant, but a possible link to being a communist at the time.
On a lighter note, I would have been able to actually read the reports if they did not appear to be written on 40 year old toilet paper and completely illegible...
2002-05-13 08:55:46 AM  
Remembering back when Jackie Robinson was really a black hero and icon! Sorta slowly disapearing from even being mentioned anymore. Wonder why? Of course I don't think it was because he was a Republican!
2002-05-13 08:58:29 AM  
The Duke himself is on that list? Try to read some of the pages associated with the report, seems the only thing you can pick up is the fact that they were investigating his involvement and had not found anything besides some investments made to an importing company. Goes to show you how paranoid people were around that time.
2002-05-13 09:06:21 AM  
Communism is almost as un-american as democracy. We seem to want to destroy both wherever it's found
2002-05-13 09:09:59 AM  
It's interesting to note that back in the 30's, a lot of working class people who had been devestated by the Great Depression saw Communism as a good economic plan to keep something as harsh as the Depression from happening again. In pure theory, Communism is a good idea. It just doesn't pan out well when you get power hungry maniacs steering the boat. Anyway, Lucy Ball's father had a rough time during the Depression, like most blue-collar people, and like lots of kids, she grew up with her dad's political leanings, in this case, toward Communism. In the 30's, there was no widespread idea that the Commies were trying to infiltrate America in a bad, Stalinist kind of way. It was just a political party whose ideas a lot of people bought into.
2002-05-13 10:13:30 AM  
I never trusted Lucy...
2002-05-13 10:27:39 AM  
Note to J. Edgar: The guy on your right looks pretty dangerous.

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2002-05-13 10:48:29 AM  
Clarence Darrow's file in which he describes how he picked people for a jury was quite entertaining. Take Irish, don't take Baptists or Presbyterians, take Jews and agnostics...
2002-05-13 11:51:23 AM  
Clawed, you beat me to it! I have to reccomend Darrow's file as a study in predjudice in 1936. I like the comments about Irish and English especially, but they're all priceless!
2002-05-13 12:41:54 PM  
Did anyone read the ******************* I noticed a lot of stuff that evidently **************************************************************************** I'm not impressed with the FOIA if they don't release the whole thing! I mean, come on, *********************************************** you know?
2002-05-13 12:48:27 PM  
Yeah, it is hard to see through all of Roy Cohn's black marks, but what did you expect? The truth?
2002-05-13 02:05:48 PM  
Damn. Abbie Hoffman wasn't kidding. His FBI file is thicker than war and peace!
2002-05-13 02:23:55 PM  
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2002-05-13 03:46:38 PM  
In pure theory, Communism is a good idea.

Bondgirl, the FBI will be starting a file on you shortly. Be careful who you talk to. Your phone is tapped and there is a camera pointed at you now.
2002-05-13 07:34:30 PM  

Um, "spook" is not a racial slur, it's slang for spy.
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