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(News-Observer)   Mall kicks chess players out because they're rowdy, hog all the good seats and never buy anything   (dwb.newsobserver.com) divider line 79
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2005-12-01 06:19:51 PM  
Next move?
Rook to parking lot G
 
2005-12-01 06:22:45 PM  
A good chess player would've anticipated this attack about 12 moves ago.
 
2005-12-01 06:23:31 PM  
Not to mention all of the bishop-polishing...
 
2005-12-01 06:24:34 PM  
I've invented a device that emits a sound which causes hearing aids to go into feedback, and which therefore is useful for repelling old people. Maybe I could call the mall owner about setting one up.
 
2005-12-01 06:24:48 PM  

I don't see you guys rating,
The kind of mate I'm contemplating.
I'd let you watch, I would invite you,
But the queens we use would not excite you.


They get their kicks away from the Starbucks line, sunshine.



 
2005-12-01 06:25:09 PM  
Not surprisign...my high school had to abolish the chess club after rampant steroid abuse.
 
2005-12-01 06:25:53 PM  
Ah...owned by my unwillingness to 'preview' before posting.
 
2005-12-01 06:27:09 PM  
No suprise. The reason they play chess is they don't have any money to do something fun.
 
2005-12-01 06:27:32 PM  
Wow! My hometown makes the news! That mall is sinking into the swamp it was built on btw.
 
2005-12-01 06:28:48 PM  
Stupid.

Why not just add more tables or create another place in the mall where people can play? I'm sure they buy coffee and crap like that.

It's private property, but it's also a public gathering place telling people to "buy or get the f out" is just cold.
 
2005-12-01 06:29:07 PM  
They forgot to mention that they also smell
 
2005-12-01 06:29:52 PM  
You brouse around but never buy anything suspicious looking...
\obscure, but not really
 
2005-12-01 06:30:51 PM  

"...all the action's on the other side of the mall..."
 
2005-12-01 06:31:28 PM  
I went to a mall that had chess sets, even one that had pieces 3ft tall. It was super sweet.

I think it was in Redmond Kirkland or something
 
2005-12-01 06:32:37 PM  
Well, 'tis the season for chess nuts boasting in an open foyer...
 
2005-12-01 06:34:13 PM  
Zymurgist
That was randomly creative enough to make me wonder what sort of drug inspired it.
 
2005-12-01 06:34:40 PM  
Full-contact chess in three...two...one...
 
2005-12-01 06:35:30 PM  
HaHa that's funny... but anyway, would you like a chocolate covered pretzel?

 
2005-12-01 06:36:45 PM  
I'm with the mall owners. But it really depends on the part of the country. In Barnes and Nobles in Manhattan it was impossible to find a place to sit and drink coffee I just paid for because people would stake out a seat and stay there for hours. Also, it was just busy as hell.
 
2005-12-01 06:37:54 PM  
In my day they were simply called "loiterers."
 
2005-12-01 06:38:34 PM  
World Chess Beauty Contest, as mentioned in an NYT article. Assume NSFW unless your bosses are tolerant, or somebody actually visits with a non-text-only browser and reports; I'm using Lynx right now.
 
2005-12-01 06:38:40 PM  
palexc-

These guys take up all the seats, and they don't buy anything. fark them. It isn't a "public place". It's a private business.

If these guys were buying drinks and food all day, then it would be a different story.

Besides, the mall is doing these old farts a favor. How sad is your life that you hang out at the mall playing chess? Maybe some of these guys will find a better hobby. Like drinking.
 
2005-12-01 06:39:42 PM  
"It's kind of tough for (vendors) to see 15 guys sitting in the food court eating food they brought in from the outside," Bersin said.

How is this different from saying, "It's kind of tough for (vendors) to see 15 teenage girls wearing clothes they brought in from the outside."

/giggity
 
2005-12-01 06:40:13 PM  
err, what Zymurgist said wasn't randomly creative (okay, maybe originally it was) it's a really old joke
 
2005-12-01 06:40:22 PM  
znfinger

Sorry... I honestly can't take credit for it. I've heard that one over the years, but found it appropriate for the topic and the season.
 
2005-12-01 06:41:19 PM  
skinink

Whatever became of Murray Head anyway?
 
2005-12-01 06:41:51 PM  
He better hope they weren't members of the World Chess Boxing Association; they might beat the rook out of him.
 
2005-12-01 06:43:04 PM  
Elzar:
Ben Stein's money?
 
2005-12-01 06:43:38 PM  
The chess players are there from 8 to 10 a.m. when no stores are open. How does he expect them to buy food from the mall if all the eatery's are closed? His argument about them taking valuable space from shoppers is bunk. The mall allows old people to aimlessly walk the mall and get in the way, but won't allow some old men to sit at a few tables?
 
2005-12-01 06:46:53 PM  
I'm glad someone is finally shining a light on this growing and serious problem. Next thing you know, all the kids will be reading and starting savings accounts...

MALLS: Hey! we are the new social "town-center." It's like a little town unto itself! All warm and cuddly.

PEOPLE: Cool. We are going to socialize and hang out at the mall... since the mall is the new "town-center" in our little cardboard suburban world.

MALL: Don't forget to buy as much as possible. We actually don't give a crap about being a "town-center" that is just a ruse to get you to ignore our horrible architecture and crummy stores... you know, the ones that replaced the good ones that used to be in your town? Anyway, pony up punk!

sigh.

I wish people would just tell it like it is.. without all the crappy McCrapcrap and platitudes.
 
2005-12-01 06:46:53 PM  
That mall is sinking into the swamp it was built on btw.

SouthCenter mall south of Seattle (Burion / Auburn / Kent) is also built on a swamp.

/ was surprised when the mall shooting incident happened in Tacoma
// not that it was in Tacoma, but that it wasn't in this mall
 
2005-12-01 06:49:18 PM  
skinink

They performed that musical at my school last year. I enjoyed it :)
 
2005-12-01 06:49:31 PM  
zymurgist, where are you hanging out that you hear this one a lot? Methinks you need to get out more...
 
2005-12-01 06:49:40 PM  
In all fairness, they are the hardest bunch of n-words to ever move pieces across a board.
 
2005-12-01 06:50:49 PM  
I think this is what they call "mate." Unless you're a chess player; then it's just called "masturbation."
 
2005-12-01 06:52:09 PM  
Having seen near fistfights at chess hangouts I'm not too shocked. Not that the fights were necessarily over chess, but it was a place for people with nothing better to do to hang out, play for money, shake down the guy that still owes them money, or otherwise use the gathering of people as a good place to lurk and deal.

None of them actually came to striking - a couple scream and threaten episodes, and one guy swinging chasing off another. Still, that place (next to the Sam The Record Man in downtown Toronto) isn't there anymore - I think they're in moss park, an even happier area of town.

Shoop008
I think that's the time that they're allowed to do so now, not the time they used to congregate.
 
2005-12-01 06:52:52 PM  
Now that I have RTFA, I must say this.

FARK the burbs.
 
2005-12-01 06:54:09 PM  
Damn those chess hooligans, damn them.
 
2005-12-01 06:55:03 PM  
etymxris: I'm with the mall owners. But it really depends on the part of the country. In Barnes and Nobles in Manhattan it was impossible to find a place to sit and drink coffee I just paid for because people would stake out a seat and stay there for hours. Also, it was just busy as hell.

I like the old B&N, the one that actually sells just books. I know the one you are talking about, it fills up pretty good when it is raining.

I remember when people used to sit around McDonalds drinking coffee and reading the paper for hours. We called them "homeless".
 
2005-12-01 06:55:50 PM  
I like to beat my bishop.
 
2005-12-01 06:57:24 PM  
I believe natemc is refering to the 8' x 8' chess board in Crossroads Mall in Bellevue, WA.

Funny enough, Crossroads Mall had similar problems with chess players! After accusations of hogging the board, the mall installed timers.
 
2005-12-01 06:58:29 PM  
It should be noted that the original Irondequoit Mall failed for this very reason: everyone who went there didn't buy anything.

btw, Rochester made Fark.com twice today

/Our powers grow stronger with each pasing day
 
2005-12-01 07:00:02 PM  
YOU'RE ALL MISSING THE POINT

It's a mall, which is dedicated to materialism. They're kicking out the one thing they have that's somewhat intellectual. It's called ironic.
 
2005-12-01 07:05:52 PM  
Someone ought to open a "chess&tea" in that mall.
 
2005-12-01 07:05:52 PM  
It's equally irritating, he added, "if you're a mother with a 3-year-old in your arms and you can't get a seat in the food court when you're tired or hungry and then there's a bunch of guys standing around being loud."

Oh for the love of flying monkeys!

How is this relevant? Your 3 yr old should be in a stroller, no wait, you should have left your 3 yr old home. I've nearly been knocked down stairs by mothers and their stupid strollers. Tried? Go home. Hungry? Your mouth doesn't need a chair.

etymxris: I'm with the mall owners. But it really depends on the part of the country. In Barnes and Nobles in Manhattan it was impossible to find a place to sit and drink coffee I just paid for because people would stake out a seat and stay there for hours. Also, it was just busy as hell.

Are you seriously griping about it being crowded in one of the most crowded places on earth? Suck it up or move. People camp out everywhere in my local B&N, its part of why it does so much business.

It the retailers want seats specically for their patrons, then they can pay higher rent for their own private space.
 
2005-12-01 07:10:09 PM  
GAMERS RUIN EVERYTHING.
 
2005-12-01 07:11:57 PM  
MALL: We're cute and cuddly. Come and congregate in our faux community. Bask in our version of the old-timey neighborliness your grandparents think they remember. We're all about being a gathering place.

Unless you're not buying things. Then get the fark out, non-consumer!
 
2005-12-01 07:17:26 PM  
Licata and others say the ban is especially aggravating because they stuck with the mall through the lean years, when retailers were fleeing and shoppers stayed away in droves.

Stuck with them how? By taking up space and not buying anything? Kick rocks you vagrants.
 
2005-12-01 07:20:54 PM  
realmolo: These guys take up all the seats, and they don't buy anything. fark them. It isn't a "public place". It's a private business.

I acknowledged that's it's private property, but it's open to the public.

I'm not saying they should be forced to let them stay, I'm saying it's just damn cold, and probably not the best business practice.

Let people hang out as long as they're not causing trouble or intimidating people, the mall will become kind of a hub. As long as people walk through the door you can sell advertising space, or floor space to companies that want to hold special events, and chances are they'll buy crap every now and then.
 
2005-12-01 07:24:41 PM  
 
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