ha ha, funny.

Nice

I love the fact that THESE are the major problems us Canadians encounter in our every day lives! HA HA

Not posting in this thread. Oh, no. No way.

Not gonna happen.

Blame Canada...They did bomb the Baldwins.

WTF kind of headline is that?!!?

My suggestion: Move to Winnipeg. Admittedly, that's horrible advice.. but hey.

Two things bothered me about this article:

1 But this quintessential slice of Canadian life in wintertime is slowly melting away due to global warming, says a collection of young environmentalists.


2He said researchers at the University of Calgary and the University of Waterloo are crunching the numbers and will present results next year.

In otherwords: Lets hype somthing we think we are observing but since we have no evidence to back it up call the paper anyway and maybe the "issue" will make a great scare story.

/feh

Ah, the most scientific of studies. Nothing like using the first freeze dates of some lakes in Canada as evidence for a global climate phenomenon.

And twobux, use 'billions' instead of 'millions'. It's more accurate and strengthens your point.

The planet has been much warmer in the past. The planet will be warmer in the future. A bit farther down the line, the planet will be much cooler. 500 million years of climate data tells us as much.

And to jump into the soon-to-be global warming flamefest:

Yes, the planet is warming. Yes, humans are making it warm faster than it would without us. Yes, it affects all life on the planet. No, the effects are not all bad. The planet will cope with the affects of higher CO2 levels in the atmosphere. It has in the past. Anything that happens to the planet as a result of its warming would have happened anyway, just not as soon. To blame it all solely on human contributions without realizing that the planet is a dynamic system is awfully arrogant.

it'll be interesting to see who the activists blame the next ice age on.

Ohhh, this is a Fark game...

global warming is to outdoor hockey...

as the Seattle monorail is to roller derby.

/what did I win.

WTF? It's still only November. You can't play real shinny until at least mid-December (at least around Eastern Ontario). I'm still confident that I'll be skipping plenty of work this winter to play hockey

13 (I dunno what that is in F) degrees and sunny with a bit of overcast.

I will not complain. If you cannot skate outside that is not really worth me having to dress up warm.

r

Oh, and one other thing:

No one knows how large of an impact human activities are having on global warming. Some studies have concluded that human contributions represent merely a few percent of the overall temperature change in the last 100 years.

There are plenty of reasons to cut down on pollution and emissions. It sucks for the environment in plenty of non-temperature related ways. But to simply harp on global warming as the reason we need to find a better way to handle emissions is narrow-minded and it misses out on the bigger picture.

Meh, if it's warmer that means I can play more street hockey. It's only cold enough to play ice hockey here a few random days per year.

WTF? It's still only November. You can't play real shinny until at least mid-December (at least around Eastern Ontario).

EXACTLY. Those nuts want to send their kids out on a pond in the middle of November?

F*ing hell... brainwashing kids for no damn good reason.

it'll be interesting to see who the activists blame the next ice age on.

Global climate change... get with the program! It's not just "global warming" anymore, you nazi!
/kidding about the nazi thing... or maybe I'm a nazi for making fun of the global climate change envirodisaster, or something.

Jack31081: There are plenty of reasons to cut down on pollution and emissions. It sucks for the environment in plenty of non-temperature related ways. But to simply harp on global warming as the reason we need to find a better way to handle emissions is narrow-minded and it misses out on the bigger picture.

Couldn't agree more. But since this is what (many) politicans have taken in, it's what gets attention from them. Otherwise, they'd have to learn something new and that's too much to ask. ;)

In other words: Since this is the current fad, everyone uses it to get attention to their cause. For better or worse.

outdoor hockey is one of the few reasons that life in wisconsin/minnesota is worth living.

hey i know - let's roll our economy back unilaterally. I am certain that China will be right behind us.....

/and india
//and korea
///and japan

Dumle:

Nothing's worse than a frozen puck in the nards in November... except maybe the face-forward fall to ice that puts your teeth out becuase you're too busy holding your package.

Jack31081: But to simply harp on global warming as the reason we need to find a better way to handle emissions is narrow-minded and it misses out on the bigger picture.

Well, you can try and figure out a way to stop volcanos from erupting if you feel that this would be a better use of everyone's time. That being said greenhouse gas emissions are a contributor to climate change, and it's one that humans actually control, hence the focus on how to do *that*. The other approach of vigorously shaking our fists at God doesn't really seem viable.

let's try that again:

Dumle:
Couldn't agree more. But since this is what (many) politicans have taken in, it's what gets attention from them. Otherwise, they'd have to learn something new and that's too much to ask. ;)

In other words: Since this is the current fad, everyone uses it to get attention to their cause. For better or worse.

What'll be interesting is when everyone starts dumping money into reducing emissions, and after 50 or 100 years they realize that the temperatures are still rising...i can't imagine the public, having the "emissions equals global warming" mentality, would be too pleased about having their tax dollars used under such a premise.

clevershark:

you've got it backwards. I'm not saying we should look for other ways to counteract global warming. I'm saying we should look at the other beneficial effects of cutting emissions. Part of my point is that in fact there is little we as humans can do to alter the climate of the planet.

Aren't "global warming/climate change" threads regularly scheduled for Tuesday mid-morning?

They are also organizing a series of protest outdoor hockey games. One game scheduled for Whitehorse was cancelled last week because of warm weather.



/HA! HA!

"When I stepped on the h'ice, I was Maurice Richard."


/hockey protests? sounds more like Toronto's area of expertise.

"so MOVE TO WHERE THE ICE IS!"

/some dead comedian.

I've known about this for years. I remember when we started playing in November and sometimes made it to March. Now i barely see any rinks at all.

twobux

Ugh, here we go. You can't use a hundred years to sample the weather of a planet that has been around for millions of years.

they don't use hundreds of years, they use hundreds of thousands of years. There are other ways to ascertain what the temperature was at a certain time then to have been there with a thermometer.

jack31081

To blame it all solely on human contributions without realizing that the planet is a dynamic system is awfully arrogant.

actually climate scientists know about planet being a dynamic system, perhaps better then you since they are experts in this area after all. But you seem to be overlooking the possibility that due to the burning of fossil fuels we are causing the temperature to go in the oppposite direction of the normal trend, in fact many scientists are begining to suspect that we actually would have been going into a little ice age right now, if not for emmissions of greenhouse gases.

wait, no flamewar?