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(Gainesville Times)   Home Depot founder Bernie Marcus builds the world's largest aquarium. Features eight-million gallons of water, 100,000 fish, and teflon-coated toilet seats   (gainesvilletimes.com) divider line 132
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2005-11-21 11:42:51 AM
impaler: Ak! The Hairy Thunder God will punish me! Ak!
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FreddyCalhoun: There is a difference between a sneering cynic like myself and the grotesque self-righteous adherents of superstitions like Christianity and Islam who go 'round forcing their ludicrous superstitions down other peoples' throats, by violence if necessary. Hopefully that not-so-fine distinction won't escape you.

"Men love their ideas more than their lives. And the more preposterous the idea, the more eager they are to die for it. And to kill for it."

-Edward Abbey
 
2005-11-21 11:42:57 AM
FredGarvin
When will Atlanta learn that reviving downtown isn't just a matter of tricking rednecks in the burbs to come down on weekends?

Yay! A voice of reason. At some point cities decided that the best way to revitalize downtown was to stick a tourist trap or a stadium down there, but to not encourage real development like housing. After the game the parents run back to the car and get Kaitlyn and Trevor the hell outta downtown ASAP. Unfortuately, the city and suburbanites think that downtown Atlanta's problem is crime and not enough tourist traps, but the real problem is homeless and no reason to be down there after dark. L5P, East Atlanta, and Decatur turned themselves around by getting good bars and restaurants in their neighborhoods, which got people used to going there and then to begin moving back into those areas. Why the city relies on these huge public projects when the only thing that ever seems to work is the private sector getting people to move there is beyond me. I guess they just don't learn.

Still, downtown has gotten and is continuing to get much better. However, it's got nothing to do with how much money the city pours into it and everything to do with some people just deciding that it's an okay place to live.

I'd rather live downtown than in Norcross. Not only because there's more to do, but because downtown actually is safer.
 
2005-11-21 11:45:55 AM
canyoneer, well, at least you are now finally citing 'your' ideas, instead of out right plagiarizing. That's an improvement I guess.
 
2005-11-21 11:47:33 AM
I have the worlds largest collection of seashells. I keep it scattered across the beaches of the world.
 
2005-11-21 11:48:54 AM
Did he get the plans from Scotty and Spock?
 
2005-11-21 11:52:47 AM
I don't "hate" fools. I rather enjoy their naive antics and bluster.

You must keep yourself endlessly amused.
 
Jaq
2005-11-21 11:55:28 AM
I briefly skimmed canyoneer's posts and found him/her to be the worst example of trolls.
 
2005-11-21 11:56:16 AM
impaler: I find it instructive that a good little Jebus-worshipper like yourself would call himself "impaler."
 
2005-11-21 11:57:15 AM
MayoBoy: "You must keep yourself endlessly amused."

No shortage of material, that's for sure.
 
2005-11-21 11:58:40 AM
Rapmaster2000
I pretty much entirely agree, though it definitely is getting better downtown. I've lived downtown for 3 years, and even in that time its gotten better. There are more restaurants popping up all over here, and tons of new residential and commercial buildings. And atlantic station, of course.

Homelessness is still obviously a problem, but there have been a couple of huge new shelters built recently and the problem certainly isnt being ignored.

I know people always talk about how dangerous it is down here, but I have never once had any kind of problem...and I am often outside well after midnight, and I have no car.

And yes I think it's silly to think an aquarium will completely revitalize Atlanta, but it's still pretty awesome to have here.
 
2005-11-21 12:04:13 PM
For god's sake, quit being such an asshat, Canyoneer. Impaler, not everyone who likes the environment or is a hippy is bad. Quit being idiots and stereotyping or I'm going to have to turn the internet around and we'll go back home.

Sheesh. Try to act like adults and have a rational conversation. You might surprise yourselves.

Yeah, I know, it's Fark. So what.
 
2005-11-21 12:05:32 PM
Isn't that nice! Even fish get better treatment than Home Depot Employee's! AAAWWWWWWW
 
2005-11-21 12:06:35 PM
i wonder if somebody will dump pencils in the main office. If I lived there, I might go once a month of something and just leave a pencil somewhere werid, like on top a copy machine. perhaps with the letter they sent him. just for some sick kicks.

/sick I mean bad.
 
2005-11-21 12:08:53 PM
$22.75 Admission!

That better include fishing rights.

/hmm, hook or harpoon?
//better take both.
 
2005-11-21 12:13:17 PM
Canyoneer:
durbnpoisn: "...much of the rest of the world couldn't give a fark. They will literally fish some species to extintion in a very short time."

And then starve to death. Meanwhile blubbery Southern hicks waddle around gawking at fish in tanks. Isn't modern man nice?



There is a big difference between fishing for survival and simply cutting the fins off a shark because they are a delicacy.

I'm quite sure there is not point in being more blunt than that.

In reference to your second point... The fish are just as happy in that tank as the would be in the wild. Especially the ones that were rescued from elsewhere. It's not like the KNOW they are in a tank. And the real plus for them is that they don't have to worry about pollution or predators.

So, say what you will, but there is nothing wrong with having those animals on display. Especially when you consider the benefit of drawing attention to these animals. Those people that go to look at those beautiful animals will think twice when they hear how badly our oceans are polluted.

I think that sort of in your face education is worth any hardship you peceive among the fish. Hardship that doesn't even exist, btw.
 
2005-11-21 12:16:20 PM
matrygg: For god's sake, quit being such an asshat, Canyoneer. Impaler, not everyone who likes the environment or is a hippy is bad. Quit being idiots and stereotyping or I'm going to have to turn the internet around and we'll go back home.

Sheesh. Try to act like adults and have a rational conversation. You might surprise yourselves.

Yeah, I know, it's Fark. So what.


Excellent!

I swear, someone could link a story on Raman Noodles and it would ignite a flame war:

Pasta_Hat3r: "What, you like Raman noodles. Man, what a sicko. Freaking noodler."

Noodl3l0v3r: "What, you hate Raman noodles. Dude, what is wrong with you? You know you're going to hell, right?"
 
2005-11-21 12:17:47 PM
For god's sake, quit being such an asshat, Canyoneer. Impaler, not everyone who likes the environment or is a hippy is bad. Quit being idiots and stereotyping or I'm going to have to turn the internet around and we'll go back home.

Sheesh. Try to act like adults and have a rational conversation. You might surprise yourselves.

Yeah, I know, it's Fark. So what


*slams on brakes*

I'm the one driving!

/actually, I'm an atheist. *does triumphant troll jig*
 
2005-11-21 12:19:37 PM
Was the aquarium built for Edward Appleby...in memoriam??
 
2005-11-21 12:19:49 PM
Err, make that Ramen.

/I guess that makes me Pasta_Hat3r.
 
2005-11-21 12:21:23 PM
97 bucks for a family of 2 adults and 3 kids. nice
 
2005-11-21 12:21:33 PM
impaler: being an atheist is just as irrational as being a jebus freak. Do a little jig and think about it.
 
2005-11-21 12:23:45 PM
At $50 a head for an annual pass (or $27.50 for a one day) plus parking I'll pass. No family passes available.
 
2005-11-21 12:24:25 PM
charlah

Now, that I'm in grad school at GSU, I've been considering selling my house and moving downtown. I have friends at William Oliver, and they tend to like it there. I also spend a lot of time downtown, and besides the fact that everything closes too early, it seems great to me.

Anything you like or don't like about downtown? Do you ever party down there? At least Cabbagetown is close, but it's starting to suck. 3 years ago, Estoria was empty. Last year, it became hipster central, on Friday when I was there it looked like all of Buckhead found out about it. Lamers ruin everything cool.

/realizes the hypocrisy of complaining about people who "found" a place after me
//i still found it first!
///damn squares, go back to the highlands!
 
2005-11-21 12:28:22 PM
Having the worlds largest aquarium in downtown Atlanta seems very, very strange.
 
2005-11-21 12:34:56 PM
impaler: being an atheist is just as irrational as being a jebus freak. Do a little jig and think about it.

No, being an atheist means one doesn't believe in God. It doesn't mean one asserts that they 'KNOW' God doesn't exist.

One can not believe in God, while simultaneously thinking that the existence of God can not be proven.
 
2005-11-21 12:36:45 PM
I lived in Midtown for about 15 years, it was cheap and a little dangerous, then. By the time I could afford to buy housing, I got 3 times the space in Stone Mountain.

I miss it, if I worked downtown, I'd definetly move back.
 
2005-11-21 12:38:01 PM
Rapmaster2000
I've got to admit, i'm not much of a partygoer, but I do frequent a wide variety of restaurants around here. The range of stuff available is quite large. The nice thing is that downtown is central to many of the surrounding areas.

I live right next to the fox theater, which is beautiful. I'm also a volunteer at the Oakland cemetery, which I think is one of the more hidden attractions of the city..it's got some very pretty stuff in it (and I promise you that I am no goth).

Theres a whole line of free art galleries over near Means street that are (sometimes) quite good. In the last year, theres been both an Escher exhibit and a Peter Max exhibit.

Marta has definitely gotten worse since I've been here, that's the one thing. Sometimes I wait up to an hour on the weekends for a train, which is really quite ridiculous. Often I'll just walk. And you'll definitely run into some panhandlers, that's just a fact of life...but I've gotten used to it at this point..occasionally they're even fairly interesting people.

Basically, I've come to enjoy it here by trying to find the places that millions of people don't go to everyday. I've inadvertantly learned a fair amount about the history of downtown, and that makes it a much more interesting place to walk through.

And yeah I agree about the freaking hipsters, but from what I can tell they've become an epidemic pretty much everywhere.

/gsu 3rd year undergrad
 
2005-11-21 12:39:43 PM
charlah: And yes I think it's silly to think an aquarium will completely revitalize Atlanta, but it's still pretty awesome to have here.

I don't know... I kinda miss the old toxic waste dump/ abandoned steel mill that used to be there. I will miss getting tore up with the homepark freaks and climbing to the top of that old rusted building that used to be there. It was right out of a horror movie, but once you got to the top, you had the best view of atlanta.

HOME PARK 4 EVAH!
 
2005-11-21 12:41:09 PM
HereNorThere: Having the worlds largest aquarium in downtown Atlanta seems very, very strange

Well, don't you think it makes sense for Atlanta to want to have a lot of water in one place if a fire breaks out?
 
2005-11-21 12:43:26 PM
Many of you are idiots, but your endlessly amusing!
 
2005-11-21 12:44:30 PM
Yamas: your

*opens mouth to say something*

Nevermind...

*walks out of thread*
 
2005-11-21 12:45:04 PM
Helios1182: Put a fish in a tank and it swims in circles.


Fish not so much...but anything with a bit higher cognitive ability (like doplhins) will eventually go crazy, and swim in circles, slowly rotating on axis to change the scenery. The dolphin at Epcot Center have a terribly boring and small habitat, and they do this all day long. Very Sad.
 
2005-11-21 12:47:39 PM
impaler: "No, being an atheist means one doesn't believe in God. It doesn't mean one asserts that they 'KNOW' God doesn't exist."

Er, pick up a dictionary, wouldja? You seem to be an agnostic, not an atheist. Or, maybe you don't know what you are?

atheism n. Denial of or disbelief in the existence of God.

agnostic n. One who disclaims any knowledge of God but does not deny the possibility of his existence.
 
2005-11-21 12:48:47 PM


Hey Zippy let's go fishing!
 
2005-11-21 12:55:27 PM

impaler: "No, being an atheist means one doesn't believe in God. It doesn't mean one asserts that they 'KNOW' God doesn't exist."

Er, pick up a dictionary, wouldja? You seem to be an agnostic, not an atheist. Or, maybe you don't know what you are?

atheism n. Denial of or disbelief in the existence of God.

agnostic n. One who disclaims any knowledge of God but does not deny the possibility of his existence.


Yep. Doesn't make what I said untrue either.

Note that the atheist denies in the existence of God, but it doesn't say that the atheist denies in the POSSIBILITY of his existence?
 
2005-11-21 12:57:35 PM
Oh yeah, the agnostic disclaims KNOWLEDGE of God (not God himself), i.e. things like "God wants you to burn bad people because he's all-good".
 
2005-11-21 12:59:26 PM
Canyoneer,



If you weren't so busy being an ass, you might try to find out a little about the conservation and preservation arm of the aquarium is doing.



Link here
 
2005-11-21 01:00:05 PM
i still think home depot sucks ass.
 
2005-11-21 01:02:50 PM
Woops! Stupid preview....

Link here
 
2005-11-21 01:03:40 PM
Good lord. Fark says the link is 503, so here it is in text form. Copy/paste as necessary....

http://www.georgiaaquarium.org/conservation/currentProjects.aspx
 
2005-11-21 01:11:04 PM
geekopus: If the aquarium wanted to conserve ocean life, it would be funding abortions and handing out contraceptives and conducting a campaign to discourage the eating of seafood. Otherwise it's all just feel-good fluff that will not make a shiatty little bit of difference. The world has reached its have-cake-or-eat-cake moment. If they wanted to get people's attention, they'd display empty tanks and post a sign that says:

"This is the future unless you get the fork outta your mouth."
 
2005-11-21 01:15:00 PM
Canyoneer,
You may be right, but that's an entirely different problem. You do realize just how nutjob that statement makes you sound, right? I can see that there's just no point in debating with someone so openminded as you, and I'd tell you to have a nice life, but with that attitude, it wouldn't do any good because you won't. So, I'll just say, have a life.
 
2005-11-21 01:30:36 PM
canyoneer
If the aquarium wanted to conserve ocean life, it would be funding abortions and handing out contraceptives and conducting a campaign to discourage the eating of seafood. Otherwise it's all just feel-good fluff that will not make a shiatty little bit of difference. The world has reached its have-cake-or-eat-cake moment. If they wanted to get people's attention, they'd display empty tanks and post a sign that says:


You mean like the Monterey Bay Aquarium program to educate consumers on which fish are overfished and which are not and how to make good seafood choices in restaurants? They even have a little card you can print and keep in your wallet.

Oh, and the aquarium is feel good fluff, but so are drugs, and self-righeous trustafarians have no problem with that shiat.
 
2005-11-21 01:43:23 PM
geekopus: An entirely different problem? Uh, no. human overpopulation IS the problem, and aquariums aren't helpful in any way. In the years since aquariums have become such big tourist attractions, there have been lots of alarming signs that the oceans are being overfished, possibly to the point of no return. A sort of inverse ratio, so to speak. Any "education program" touted by this new aquarium will have as much impact as "DARE" or "Just Say No" - that is, no impact at all.

So, the bottom line is that the aquarium is nothing more than a tourist trap that adds in its small way to the overall problem. Drip, drip, drip.

Did you hear what happened to "Ocean Journey," the idiotic aquarium they opened a few years ago in Denver? Well, it went broke pretty quickly, and has now been "re-themed" into an aquarium/seafood restaurant in an attempt to keep it, ahem, afloat. How's THAT for education, eh?
 
2005-11-21 01:47:26 PM
Rapmaster2000: "They even have a little card you can print and keep in your wallet."

Oh, and does that little card keep the sea turtles from getting entangled in driftnets and prevent albatrosses from getting snagged on long lines and prevent trawlers from flattening the ocean floor when they trawl for "acceptable" seafood?
 
2005-11-21 01:49:50 PM
The aquarium is obviously the result of intelligent design and is therefore built by God. You should all bow down to your new amphibious masters and throw out all that book learnin'.
 
2005-11-21 01:54:11 PM
gsu law here, 2L. the aquarium's staying in private hands from what i understand, so biatching about what the city should do/authorize isn't really helpful. anyone who says ATL needs more housing in-town will get their wish. in-fill is happening at ridiculous rates, atlantic station seems to be a model for success at midtown, and the ridiculous traffic situation is making MARTA more appealing even though the service has gotten worse. home prices in my neighborhood have gone up 20-30k in the six months i've been living there, and don't seem to be slowing down too much. you let someone spend one day riding 85 in from gwinett, and they'll be all over the houses near piedmont, midtown, and downtown.

and yes, i'm of the opinion that downtown, north of downtown/midtown, and the east side of town are all on their way to dramatic improvements, whether people like FredGarvin like the fishtank or not.
 
2005-11-21 01:54:42 PM
in addition to [Florida] we need a [H.Depot]. I'll photoshop one for less than the cost of a pencil. yes, my ass will be glued to the toilet while doing so... glad i'm using a low-flow flusher...
 
2005-11-21 02:09:08 PM
Canyoneer... The overfishing problems in the world are not being caused by us. We have very strict regulations. We have seasons for certain fish, crabs, and shellfish. All in the name of making sure that more and more of the species continue.

It's many other countries (mostly Asian) that are fishing like crazy, with a complete blatant disregard for the ecosystem they are invading.

I'm not saying there are no Americans that break the rules... I'm sure there are. But, it's not the entire country running unregulated.

And aquariums and zoos are among the reasons that Americans so easily accept that regulation.

These are not my opinions, these are facts. If you really want to make a statement about who is killing the ocean, biatching about an aquarium in a Fark forum is not the place to do it. Mostly because the aquarium is part of the solution, not the problem...

If you feel that strongly about it, I suggest you start writing some letters to organizations like Greenpeace who are actually attempting to stop such abuse.
 
2005-11-21 02:32:11 PM
canyoneer
Rapmaster2000: "They even have a little card you can print and keep in your wallet."

Oh, and does that little card keep the sea turtles from getting entangled in driftnets and prevent albatrosses from getting snagged on long lines and prevent trawlers from flattening the ocean floor when they trawl for "acceptable" seafood?


Uh, yeah. That stuff is on the card too. If people stop purchasing fish caught in ways that damage the environment, then they'll be no incentive to catch fish that way. It's called the free market, dumbass.

Money talks and bullshiat walks. Keep walking canyoneer.
 
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