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2005-11-18 03:02:04 PM
2005-11-18 02:59:47 PM dbasement

OK --

As the last official Fark user to miss this in-joke [hey, I was out of town] -- can someone explain the "O RLY?" phenomenon?

Strangely enough, the pictures make me laugh every time even though I'm not sure what's happening - a metaphor for life.


"O RLY? is a popular Internet meme, typically presented as an image macro of an owl with the words "O RLY?" (oh really?) superimposed. Other common images include a different owl with "YA RLY" (yeah really). This fad is believed to have begun at the Something Awful forums. The usual conversation flow, including the meme, starts with O RLY, followed by YA RLY, ending with NOWAI owl. The fad is now popular on various image boards such as 4chan." -Wikipedia

Yeah, the owl+o rly doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, either.. Perhaps the owl simply has an expression on its face indicating that it could possibly be thinking "oh really"
 
2005-11-18 03:03:15 PM
GreyAlien

It's hard to do the right thing when you're being ganged up on, but us Neo-Cons are used to hard work...

Bushbots must have some fetish for saying that what they do is "hard."
 
2005-11-18 03:03:43 PM
The relationship between The Bush Adminstration and its supporters is more and more like the relationship between Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston. They keep blowing up everything conservatives are supposed to stand for and, yet, you take it and ask for another. Sad. But, kinda funny too.
 
2005-11-18 03:03:46 PM
Major Thomb
I guess Woodward have made the Democrats look pretty stupid on the other thing so they're trying a new angle now.

The Woodward revelations renewed attention to an investigation into who was responsible for leaking Plame's name, an inquiry that had appeared to be winding down after last month's indictment of Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

Source: ABC News
 
2005-11-18 03:04:18 PM
great headline...bravo
 
2005-11-18 03:05:24 PM
"us Neo-Cons are used to hard work" except, of course, actually fighting.
 
2005-11-18 03:05:34 PM
mindbuzz: The relationship between The Bush Adminstration and its supporters is more and more like the relationship between Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston.

Or Tina and Ike Turner, if you want to go old school.
 
2005-11-18 03:06:05 PM
Isn't this the assbag that tried to get Powell to say that Cuba had bio weapons in his UN speech?
 
2005-11-18 03:06:49 PM
Mugato
"Hit me again, Ike. And this time put some Stank on it."
 
2005-11-18 03:07:24 PM
GreyAlien

My sarcast-o-meter just exploded.
 
2005-11-18 03:07:27 PM
GreyAlien, irony is really hard to convey on a message board so I don't know if you're serious or not. Mentioning God and voluntarally calling yourself a neocon indicates that you're not but you never know.
 
2005-11-18 03:08:27 PM
CanuckGuy

Oh, a sarcasm detector...that's a Real useful invention....
 
2005-11-18 03:08:43 PM
LocalCynic
Bushbots must have some fetish for saying that what they do is "hard."

Maybe I should've said difficult.

"H*rd" is kind of a dirty word now that I think about it. Like "n*ts*ck".

I don't think God would approve of speech like that, so I'll try not to use it in the future. I think a letter to the FCC might be in order as well.

Here are two letters to the FCC: F U
 
2005-11-18 03:10:27 PM
Mugato

True. But Tina's got that survivor thang goin' on now. Whitney has that "Looks like a crack ho, but thinks she's hot" persona.
 
2005-11-18 03:11:07 PM
Mugato
Pssst... Highlight the blank spots at the end of Grey Alien's posts...
 
2005-11-18 03:11:38 PM
Official A:

The Woodward revelations renewed attention to an investigation into who was responsible for leaking Plame's name, an inquiry that had appeared to be winding down after last month's indictment of Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

I'm talking about Woodward, a liberal hero, calling the whole thing laughable and insignificant.

The Democrats really need to try a new angle like coming up with ideas and promoting a platform.
 
2005-11-18 03:13:34 PM
Uh, Woodward has basically been Bush's biographer the last 5 years.
 
2005-11-18 03:14:46 PM
Major Thomb: The Democrats really need to try a new angle like coming up with ideas and promoting a platform.

yah, those damned dirty democrats.

nevermind this was an investigation started by the executive branch at the request of the cia, and an investigator selected by the same executive branch. somehow, someway, this is just a ruse over the reality....democrats control evvvvverything. republican domination of the federal government is just a fignewton of the collective imagination.
 
2005-11-18 03:15:35 PM
What a waste of taxpayer money.

If we can't trust the President to lead us into war, who can we trust?



HAHAHAHAHA!!! No... The war is not a waste of money at all!!

If we can't trust the President to keep us out of war, who can we trust.

Go ahead and call me a "libtard"... I'd rather be among those that knew there was a problem, and tried to stop it, than you sheep that let it happen.
 
2005-11-18 03:19:11 PM
"us Neo-Cons are used to hard work" except, of course, actually fighting.

...thats why we send in your sons.daughters.fathers.mothers.etc in to fight, and we stay at home and lie

//Mr.Burns: Deploy the hounds
 
2005-11-18 03:19:38 PM
Feith was always one of my favorites to be indicted by Fitzgerald, considering his role in cooking the intel and his close relationship with Miller. The Plame case and the Larry Franklin case both cross paths with Feith. But Israel is involved, therefore the story is treated differently lest somebody start screaming "anti-semite" for mentioning Israeli spies in the Pentagon.


The Israeli penetration of our national security has been put in the spotlight, lately, by the indictment and guilty plea of former Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin on charges of spying for Israel. During his tenure as the Pentagon's top Iran specialist, when he worked for Doug Feith, Franklin was caught red-handed funneling highly classified information to Steve Rosen, AIPAC's chief lobbyist, and Keith Weissman, AIPAC's top foreign policy analyst, who then passed the stolen secrets on to the Israeli embassy. The interconnectedness of the investigation into AIPAC's treason with Fitzgerald's probe is underscored by the following passage from Franklin's indictment:

"On or about June 3, 2003, Franklin met with FO-3 [Naor Gilon] at the POAC [Pentagon Officers Athletic Club], and the discussion centered on a specific person, not in the United Status government, and her thoughts concerning the nuclear program of the Middle Eastern country and, separately, certain charity, efforts in Foreign Nation A."

If Franklin and his Israeli handler a nuclear weapons specialist were talking about a woman whose "thoughts concerning the nuclear program" of a certain "Middle Eastern country" had some significance, then surely Judith Miller is a likely candidate. When we add in the business about "certain charity efforts in Foreign Nation A," the identification becomes even more credible: "Foreign Nation A" is Israel, the "charity efforts" consist of work on behalf of the Iraqi Jewish Archive, a joint project undertaken by Miller, Harold Rhode (Franklin's associate in Feith's policy shop), and Ahmed Chalabi. It might be said that these efforts on behalf of the Archive are not taking place "in Israel," as the wording of the indictment puts it, but the ultimate location of the archives is uncertain, and surely Israel is one very possible destination. In any case, it can safely be said that this is a project undertaken on Israel's behalf.

As Franklin and Gilon hung out at the Pentagon Officers Athletic Club, shooting the breeze, it seems Ms. Miller was the subject of their conversation, at least in part. Did the name Valerie Plame also come up?


From Here

Plamegate, WMDs and Feith/Franklin all have a common root, if anybody would just dare to discuss it.
 
2005-11-18 03:21:03 PM
Doubleplusgood analogy submitter
 
2005-11-18 03:22:06 PM
Major Thomb
I'm talking about Woodward, a liberal hero, calling the whole thing laughable and insignificant.

The Democrats really need to try a new angle like coming up with ideas and promoting a platform.


You really need to try a new angle like coming up with sources and validating your talking points.

==========================================

Joseph Wilson, the husband of outed CIA operative Valerie Plame, called on Thursday for an inquiry by The Washington Post into the conduct of journalist Bob Woodward, who repeatedly criticized the leak investigation without disclosing his own involvement.

"It certainly gives the appearance of a conflict of interest. He was taking an advocacy position when he was a party to it," Wilson said.

Woodward testified under oath on Monday to special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald that a senior Bush administration official casually told him in mid-June 2003 about Plame's position at the CIA.

The surprise testimony appeared to contradict Fitzgerald's assertion that Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, was the first government official to divulge information to reporters about Plame. The disclosure could prolong the leak investigation as Fitzgerald pursues new leads in the case, lawyers said.

Source: The Washington Post
 
2005-11-18 03:24:10 PM
Bush and God started the war and they're in it to win it, no matter how hard you wish for us to lose.

Abu Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.

"President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq " And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"

This is the leader of thre free world?
Farking scary!
 
2005-11-18 03:24:32 PM
Hotwing

No, I believe that was our UN Ambassador, Mssr. Bolton. I know, it's hard to keep track of all these intellectual giants.
 
2005-11-18 03:24:32 PM
Felgraf

Mugato
Pssst... Highlight the blank spots at the end of Grey Alien's posts...


And he would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids.

I fell for it.
 
2005-11-18 03:25:50 PM
Methinks Major Thomb has been sliced and diced by Official A
 
2005-11-18 03:27:26 PM
I'd like someone to spend a couple minutes once in a while talking about the good intelligence on Iraq:

for example that it was run by an evil farking dictator who murdered three quarters of a million of his own people, attempted genocide on various occasions (against the Kurds), openly sponsored terrorism (sorry guys, but Israeli civilians are human beings too), had his political opponents and their families murdered and tortured (torture = fingernails yanked off, electrocution, etc... not panties on your head) invaded a neighboring country totally unprovoked... and was by the way managing to impoverish his country while sitting on oil resources worth untold billions that could benefit the entire world economy. And was a target of opportunity in terms of potentially establishing a foothold for western capitalist democracy in the region that might (hopefully), in the long run, go a long way towards turning the whole region into something other than a midieval shiat hole filled with people both poor and crazy.

but:
'OMFG NO WMDS!!!!!!! OH NO, Hallibuuuuurtonnnnn!!!'

Whatever, you don't like the war ok, but this manufactured outrage is a little much. People paying a moderate amount of attention beforehand knew there were multiple reasons for the conflict... they either found them compelling or insufficient at the time (either of which is legitimate) and they for the most part, still feel the same way. The public being fooled is a total myth, the only people who have any possible way of claiming to be fooled were people without the slightest farking clue to begin with. It was clear what was being sexed up for propagandistic purposes from the beginning, just as necessarily happens in every war involving a democracy.

/Bored.
 
2005-11-18 03:28:25 PM
durbnpoisn
No... The war is not a waste of money at all!!

I'm glad you understand that protecting America from terror isn't a waste.

What you don't understand is that the war is over. Done. Finished. We're in the rebuilding stage.

It's a crime that the money being spent on this investigation isn't being used to rebuild Iraq.

Typing that made me throw up in my mouth a little.
 
2005-11-18 03:29:33 PM
Official A: The surprise testimony appeared to contradict Fitzgerald's assertion that Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, was the first government official to divulge information to reporters about Plame.


My ass. Fitzgerald's assertion is that Scooter lied to the Grand Jury and to the FBI. Nothing Bob Woodward says can change that. Doesn't matter why he lied, only that he did! Why does everyone think this clears Libby of perjury and obstruction, that horse is already out of the barn, no?

If anything, Woodward's tardy admission only opens this case up again, and underscores the fact that an organized conspiracy existed.

The closer this thing gets to Israel, the weirder it gets. Now we have Bob Woodward coming in at the eleventh hour with this nonsense, and oddly enough just a couple of days before the Pentagon Inspector General goes public with its intentions to investigate Feith.

Hmmmmmmmmm.
 
2005-11-18 03:29:34 PM
a senior Bush administration official casually told him in mid-June 2003 about Plame's position at the CIA

That senior offiial was...dun dun dun, Cheney!!
 
2005-11-18 03:29:58 PM
Quick, someone find a white girl in peril, we need a distraction!

Seriously, the Italians spilled the beans on the fake Niger docs, exposed how willing Cheney & Co was to accept it, when the CIA knew it was bogus at first glance.
 
2005-11-18 03:33:21 PM
Military Intelligence
Two words combined that can't make sense

/Hangar 18 I know too much
 
2005-11-18 03:33:33 PM
Major Thomb: The Democrats really need to try a new angle like coming up with ideas and promoting a platform.

Frankly Major, the Democrats don't need to do shiat right now.

/Tired of the 'the Democrats don't have ideas' talking point... Like any of the righties spewing this one actually give a shiat about, or would support, any ideas coming from the Democrats.
 
2005-11-18 03:35:30 PM
BlindMan: I'd like someone to spend a couple minutes once in a while talking about the good intelligence on Iraq:


It's like a date-rapist saying, "Can't we just focus on the wonderful dinner we had before?"
 
2005-11-18 03:35:55 PM
BlindMan

I commend you on your well chosen screen name.
 
2005-11-18 03:36:22 PM
GreyAlien is correct. It is easy for leftists to gang up on a fellow with a speach impediment.

Yet, they trust a guy like Sadam Hussain over the President of the US.

Where was the outrage from the left over the civilian deaths caused by President Clinton s bombing in Europe?
 
2005-11-18 03:37:19 PM
sarek_smile: GreyAlien is correct. It is easy for leftists to gang up on a fellow with a speach impediment.


Or spelling. Everybody, get him!
 
2005-11-18 03:38:32 PM
BlindMan: I'd like someone to spend a couple minutes once in a while talking about the good intelligence on Iraq

There's no such thing. From the get-go we were hoodwinked, bamboozled, a$$farked, horseshiatfed the nonsense that Sadaam was a threat, that he was involved in 9/11, that he has WMD. Its like Bush kept on makingu p false lies until the public got caught in one and then he realed us in.
 
2005-11-18 03:39:38 PM
GodsTumor

You represent the typical leftist America-Hater.

You trust the Palestinian Prime Minister over the President of the US!
 
2005-11-18 03:39:44 PM
BlindMan sure lives up to his name


"I'd like someone to spend a couple minutes once in a while talking about the good intelligence on Iraq:

...an evil farking dictator who murdered three quarters of a million of his own people, attempted genocide on various occasions (against the Kurds), openly sponsored terrorism ...had his political opponents and their families murdered and tortured ...invaded a neighboring country totally unprovoked... and was by the way managing to impoverish his country while sitting on oil resources worth untold billions that could benefit the entire world economy..."
Blah, blah,blah. And your point? None of those were the reasons given for starting the war. FYI - Hussein committed most of these atrocities while he was a good buddy of the U.S. during the Reagan administration. The gas used on the Kurds was supplied by the U.S. Where were you and your righteous outrage back then? STFU moron.
 
2005-11-18 03:40:39 PM
Churchy LaFemme
Like any of the righties spewing this one actually give a shiat about, or would support, any ideas coming from the Democrats.

Sorry, but we're too busy coming up with our own excellent ideas to bother. Like this one:

1) Invade Iraq.
2) ?
3) Profit!!

The Patriots in the White House know what step 2 is. And it's a matter of national security that the rest of us don't.

It's steal the oil.
 
2005-11-18 03:43:17 PM
I also enjoy the 'if Democrats don't shape up and get some ideas they won't win anymore elections' talking point.

/It's always amusing when the righties feign concern about the opposing party's prospects in the next election...
 
2005-11-18 03:44:09 PM
sarek_smile

Clinton's bombing and killing of civilians in Europe?

I didn't watch Faux News that night but man you're right, we should try Clinton for these war crimes. Thanks so much for setting the record straight.


/dipstick
 
2005-11-18 03:44:15 PM
Republican Platform = The Democrats really need to try a new angle like coming up with ideas and promoting a platform


This Plame thing keeps getting worse and worse for the Bushies. You know your man wanted to start a war and 911 allowed him to take "creative license" for reasons to do so. You know it.
 
2005-11-18 03:44:19 PM
sarek_smile

GodsTumor

You represent the typical leftist America-Hater.

You trust the Palestinian Prime Minister over the President of the US!


I trust most people over the President of the US!

Love my country!
Hate what these AssWipes have done to it.
 
2005-11-18 03:50:39 PM
Quite rightly.
 
2005-11-18 03:51:41 PM
GreyAlien

I'm glad you understand that protecting America from terror isn't a waste.

What you don't understand is that the war is over. Done. Finished. We're in the rebuilding stage.

It's a crime that the money being spent on this investigation isn't being used to rebuild Iraq.



First of all, Iraq was NOT a terrorist threat. That's why they are investigating the fact that we ever attacked.

Secondly, the war is not over just because Bush tells us "major combat" is done. Tell the insurgents that the war is over.

And lastly, the real crime is that we ever attacked them in the first place.
 
2005-11-18 03:54:45 PM
GodsTumor
I trust most people over the President of the US!

Loving the people of the US begins with loving the President.

After all, he is their leader.

And God is the President's leader so you should love him, too. The Christian God, that is. Not some goat or a bowl of pasta or whatever you liberal weed tokers hallucinated most recently.

I've been touched by his noodly appendage.
 
2005-11-18 03:55:08 PM
durbnpoisn

And lastly, the real crime is that we ever attacked them in the first place.
 
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