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17569 clicks; posted to Main » on 14 Nov 2005 at 10:32 PM (11 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2005-11-14 08:27:07 PM  
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"Nothing to see here, folks."
2005-11-14 08:47:55 PM  
"Who shall stand guard to the guards themselves"?

Apparently, not the guy with a video camera and a small amount of marijuana.

In the police officers defense, they probably did not have a large amount of marijuana onhand to plant.
2005-11-14 08:57:10 PM  
They were going to drop the charges and pay money in return for the video.

If that's not a crime, it should be.
2005-11-14 09:38:27 PM  
Two days later, the witness was told the charges would be dropped and he would get $1,000 if he signed a release giving up the camera and the video.

Civil-rights lawyer Gigi Gordon said the waiver was highly unusual, since it was handwritten and no police officer's identification number was on it. The $1,000 came from "general liability," implying the city attorney approved it, she said.

I call Allison Hannigans.

"Implying the city attorney approved it" doesn't mean shiat. This was probably scrawled on a Dunkin Donuts receipt by one of the gals in dispatch as a favor to one of the cops in question.

Move along, these aren't the droids you're looking for.
2005-11-14 09:43:41 PM  
Wow, that is really scary. San Bernardino police are typically known for being ,well, renegades. My friend's dad was a Vice Narc for SB Sherriff and I heard some pretty disturbing shiat about some of their behavior while on the clock.
2005-11-14 10:13:59 PM  
The officer asked if he'd taken pictures of the scuffle; the man said yes. When he retreated into the room, the officer followed, shoving him on the bed and handcuffing him.

If you have to ask if he took pictures, don't you already know you did something wrong? If you followed the "letter of the law" and did everything, "by the book" wouldn't you hope he took pictures? Ya know, to prove it? Vindication and all?

/this country is getting scarier and scarier
2005-11-14 10:23:22 PM  
Support Norml (pops), because hey, lobbying works for huge corporations, it could work for stoners too
2005-11-14 10:31:30 PM  

In the police officers defense, they probably did not have a large amount of marijuana onhand to plant.

Agreed. I'm sure they made up for it by "confiscating" all the cash the guy had on him, though.
2005-11-14 10:36:51 PM  
What, they couldn't send Steve Martin from "The Spanish Prisoner"?
2005-11-14 10:38:02 PM  
go ahead, pretend this doesn't happen
2005-11-14 10:40:06 PM  
Oh goody.

We got another Rodney King!

//what city will burn this time?
2005-11-14 10:40:13 PM  
But I thought all cops were heroes because they fought terror?
2005-11-14 10:40:24 PM  
Not to mention even if they did really find marijuna i'm pretty dammn sure that it'd be inadmisable as evidence given the circumstances.
2005-11-14 10:42:51 PM  
I'm just glad that 13 months later, these hero's are still on the beat, sans punishment. Think of the children!
2005-11-14 10:42:56 PM  
Typical of THE MAN.

THE MAN always trying to put us down.

THE MAN, crooked as always.

down with THE MAN.

/ just enjoy typing THE MAN.
// provides false sense of anti-establishment behavior without actually getting into trouble
2005-11-14 10:43:25 PM  
Hey! They're not called "pigs" for nothing...
2005-11-14 10:43:37 PM  
Criminals w/ badges.
2005-11-14 10:43:56 PM  
Well, I'd take it. The police shouldn't be beating people down, but a thousand bucks is a thousand bucks.
2005-11-14 10:45:17 PM  
Because you should always take things NORML says at face value.

Terrorists use drugs, too.
2005-11-14 10:45:30 PM  
While I don't think of all cops as scum, or pigs, or worthy of contempt...

These cops are . I hope someone throws the book at them, but I doubt that will happen...
2005-11-14 10:45:34 PM  
Every single cop is a hero they never do anything wrong!
2005-11-14 10:45:36 PM  
SafariShane TF

Support Norml (pops), because hey, lobbying works for huge corporations, it could work for stoners too

What's the definition of 'lobbying'? Doesn't 'lobbying' look an awful lot like 'legal bribing'?

/supports norml, you should too
2005-11-14 10:45:49 PM  
IANAL, pushing someone into a motel room, after asking them if they had pictures of beating (legal or not) would get any / all charges thrown out on the person being pushed. I hope the PD has aspirations of being a real attorney (or the motel dweller can afford one).
2005-11-14 10:46:36 PM  
Nothing will happen, hate cops.
2005-11-14 10:46:53 PM  
The pigs get more corrupt and more brutal every day. Welcome to police state Amerika.

Our corrupt government and foreign policy are only a reflection of the corruptness within. If he we have no juctice, we have no peace. How can we fix the world if we can't fix ourselves?
2005-11-14 10:47:33 PM  
ps: if you think 'roid usage was rampant in sports...check your local district office. Men's Heath (mag) did an article about how to handle situations when you think the officer is on steroids. Scary that it even happens. Abuse of power.
2005-11-14 10:47:46 PM  
Funny...when I have to deal with cops, I don't flee, I don't resist arrest, I'm not belligerent, and I calmly speak with them. This is how everyone I know deals with them regardless of race (which I know is going to be mentioned in responses to this) or any other factor. Isn't it weird how none of us ever get beat by the po-lice?
2005-11-14 10:47:49 PM  

That's exactly what it is, and once the regular man starts using it to the effect the rich elite has, this will be a much better world
2005-11-14 10:48:27 PM  

And some cops use illegal force from time to time.
2005-11-14 10:49:19 PM  
Holy crap, I LIVE in San Bernardino D:
2005-11-14 10:50:11 PM  
Hey, who said life doesn't mirror Grand Theft Auto?
2005-11-14 10:50:26 PM  
"I asked Robert Krause, the lawyer representing three of the officers in disciplinary hearings, whether the department has given them additional training on how to subdue large, unruly suspects. He said he wasn't aware of any. "

Officer, I have some additional training, shoot to kill next time.

Better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6.
2005-11-14 10:50:55 PM  
JP Money

Holy crap, I LIVE in San Bernardino

Yes, but do you own a video camera?
2005-11-14 10:51:00 PM  
c7hu1hu fh746n,

ummmm... I hate to point this out, but you live in a pretty small homogenious place. Something tells me NE cops are a wee bit calmer on average than your typical Southern CA trooper.
2005-11-14 10:52:51 PM  
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2005-11-14 10:53:01 PM  
"...officers appear to kick and punch Sykes in the face and stomp on his ankles repeatedly after he was subdued.

Legal analyst Laurie Levenson said the force may not have been excessive"

God bless our legal analysts. Did you know with the addition of a single letter, legal analysts become "legal anal cysts"?

/The more you know...
2005-11-14 10:55:10 PM  

point taken. However, I imagine if the guy had done nothing and just let them search/cuff him he wouldn't have been injured at all. (Though due to the incredibly high quality of Norml's reporting, it wasn't made apparent whether there were uniforms involved or if they identified themselves as officers. The fact that it wan't mentioned at all makes it very likely that he knew they were cops.)
2005-11-14 10:56:02 PM  
i was a nice camera, and good dope. 1k$ sounds like a fair offer for the both of them. why do you guys hate the open marketplace so much?

"implying the city attorney approved it". interesting. maybe moreso if this article was from reuters.!?
never having heard of it, i looked up the press-enterprise quoted in the norml article. 4 articles on this @ the link. you might need to know
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2005-11-14 10:59:03 PM  
sorry about the missing link. then search for 'harold sykes'. then bugmenot.
2005-11-14 10:59:49 PM  
Cops do not like it when people challenge their authoritai. I like how the obstructing justice thing came out for no reason other than this cop wanting to cover his ass...

2005-11-14 11:03:23 PM  

I like how the obstructing justice thing came out for no reason other than this cop wanting to cover his ass...

Ummm No. From the article...

"The officer asked if he'd taken pictures of the scuffle; the man said yes. When he retreated into the room, the officer followed, shoving him on the bed and handcuffing him."

His retreat away from the office is obstruction. Plain and simple. Defend it if you want to hippie, but facts are facts.
2005-11-14 11:03:45 PM  
I'm not trying to make excuses for the cops... the obvious bribery attempt, the total brutality... that can't be excused and they should be punished.

But you know what?

Maybe if this dumbass hadn't tried to get away from them, and didn't try to fight 1, then 3, then 5 officers, this wouldn't have happened.
2005-11-14 11:05:00 PM  
If the police want us to respect them, first they should start to respect us.

I have a friend who is at school in Guelph, a small city west of Toronto. This weekend, someone drugged her drink when she was at a bar. Fortunately, no one took advantage of her. Though when the police found her wondering around drugged, rather than take her to the hospital like they are supposed to, they threw her in a jail cell, denied her the right to a phone call, were rude and swore at her, and charged her a fine for being drunk in public.

As you can expect, she is considering legal action

/Keep eyes open for a news article about a lawsuit on this at
//Suburban police forces REALLY need to be held more accountable for their actions
2005-11-14 11:05:08 PM  
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Respect my authoritah!
2005-11-14 11:07:34 PM  

I can't tell if you're trolling but I'll taste the bait. Word on the street is terrorists breathe Oxygen too, aka I don't understand your point.
2005-11-14 11:07:58 PM  
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2005-11-14 11:10:35 PM  
It works like this...

There are so many laws on the books that anytime someone in power wants to burn you, they will apply enough heat until you fold. IRS/State tax audit, follow you while you drive, etc. Especially in small hick towns, like Sheboygan, Wisconsin. Check out the poor bastard below:

And after he complained, and the police decide they did nothing wrong, then they charge him with making a false complaint:​0101/510 220309/1062

Anyway, we're still a 'Free' country but that definition of freedom is starting to get awfully narrow...
2005-11-14 11:15:03 PM  
Here's what's strange to me - these cops seem to be bad cops, they confiscated a camera with incriminating evidence, and then they didn't jus erase it. Are they more concerned with unprovable obstruction of justice (hey, what videotape?) than provable excessive force?

J. D.
2005-11-14 11:16:00 PM  
cops are shiat. there have been situations where i may have needed them, but based off who i know the problems were resolved without the police and the parties involved were punished.

you DONT have to stop for a cop if you are walking, you DONT have to talk to them, you DONT have to give them your name. in TFA it says the guy did just that and got the beat down. sure he might have been there for illegal activities but until one took place they had no right to grab him.

a similar situation occured 6 months ago where a friend of mine was walking home from a bar and a cop pulled up beside him and asked him to stop. he knows his rights and said "i dont have to stop for you" and kept walking. cop immediatly jumps out of his car grabs my buddy puts him in cuffs and takes him to jail for the night.

in the morning my buddy got charged with assualting an officer, and a few other charges. all bullshiat.

6 months later over $3000 grand in lawyer fees and a day before his trial all charges were dropped. and he NOW can make the formal complaint against the officer. the head honchos said he wasnt allowed to make a complaint against an officer until after his legal proceedings were done with them.

/what do you think will happen to the cop?
//if you screwed up at your job would you not be disciplined?
///fark em all while on duty
2005-11-14 11:16:04 PM  
Cue that fantastic NWA song...
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