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(Rocky Mountain News)   Denver will still have to enforce Colorado state marijuana laws, no matter how many referendums they pass   (rockymountainnews.com ) divider line
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-11-07 12:08:16 PM  
Denver will still have to enforce Colorado state marijuana laws, no matter how many referendums they pass

Can we teach them proper declension of Latin words instead?
 
2005-11-07 12:15:08 PM  
hmm..

/grabs dictionary

declension... declension.. hmm.. inflection of nouns and pronouns.. hmm. Oh I get it.

WHOA Burn!!
 
2005-11-07 12:32:36 PM  
God- I'm such a Latin dork that even "stadiums" drives me nuts...

//Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
 
2005-11-07 12:36:21 PM  
Denver PD made statments about this before the election... This is no suprise to anyone.
 
2005-11-07 12:37:25 PM  
Of course, the state law is only a $100 fine for possesion (or so the TV told me).

Wonder if there are any Federal Laws that superceed the State ones?
 
2005-11-07 01:22:43 PM  
th3j0k3r: This is no suprise to anyone.

No it's not. It should also be no surprise to government officials that people are starting to get sick and tired of these irrational drug laws that enforce unnecessary prohibition.
 
2005-11-07 02:32:28 PM  
1. Plant pot plants in pot hater lawmakers back yard.
2. Place anonymous phone call.
3. Profit.
 
2005-11-07 03:49:15 PM  
So if a Denver cop pulls you over what do they do?
 
2005-11-07 03:49:29 PM  
I like the way you think, Crosshair!
 
2005-11-07 03:50:08 PM  
Reeferendums...tee hee. It's funny cuz it's true.
 
2005-11-07 03:50:15 PM  
ScienceRocks: No it's not. It should also be no surprise to government officials that people are starting to get sick and tired of these irrational drug laws that enforce unnecessary prohibition.

Look, this stuff's illegal for a reason. Drugs rot your brain, they're addictive, and they ruin lives.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go. It's almost happy hour.
 
2005-11-07 03:50:45 PM  
I grew up in a small town in Colorado (appx 350 humans). Perhaps we should have voted that every resident gets 100 free colorado lottery tickets every year. That's fair, right?

/probably still would not have won.
 
2005-11-07 03:50:50 PM  
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH​HHHHHHHH HH

TJ would be so upset right now. that's Thomas Jefferson-- the man in favor of states rights.

yes yes, i know-- it was a city not a state.
 
2005-11-07 03:51:00 PM  
Denver's vote is definitely a moral victory for drug law reform, but I wouldn't expect any meaningful legal victories anytime soon. With the Supreme Court leaning right, we can look forward to several more decades of Drug War-alarity.
 
2005-11-07 03:51:38 PM  
This is so stupid. I can't figure out why it's not legalized when cigarettes and alcohol still are. It's no worse or better than any of the BIG two, so why are we even trying to enforce these stupid outdated laws. This country gets carried away with it's so called democracy these days.
 
2005-11-07 03:51:47 PM  
It will still be up to the cop at the scene. No one will know the difference if he lets an evil possesor go free.
 
2005-11-07 03:53:30 PM  
This is so stupid. I can't figure out why it's not legalized when cigarettes and alcohol still are. It's no worse or better than any of the BIG two, so why are we even trying to enforce these stupid outdated laws.

Because marijuana lobbyists don't produce the campaign donations that ciggies and alcohol do.
 
2005-11-07 03:55:18 PM  
Can anyone form a coherent argument laying out why alcohol is legal and pot isn't? Alcohol seems to be a much more destructive drug.
 
2005-11-07 03:55:41 PM  
keep in mind, it is "illegal" in amsterdam as well. these folks just want to concentrate on REAL problems in their cities, not political/religious bs.
 
2005-11-07 03:55:59 PM  
I'm going to Denver/Winter Park for the xmas holidays. Anyone know of a good hash bar?
 
2005-11-07 03:57:11 PM  
Ha. If the government had even a clue as to how much money they could make off of legalization, then it would have been done already. They could give marlboro rights to sell packs of joints instead of cigarettes. The money pit would be endless.
 
2005-11-07 03:57:28 PM  
This is so stupid. I can't figure out why it's not legalized when cigarettes and alcohol still are. It's no worse or better than any of the BIG two, so why are we even trying to enforce these stupid outdated laws.

Because marijuana lobbyists don't produce the campaign donations that ciggies and alcohol do.



In addition to that, legalized hemp production would mean sweeping changes to the following BIG businesses:
1. Textiles
2. Logging
3. Food
4. Drug companies
And, yes, my favorite
5. Potroleum

The Deisel engine was invented to run on hemp oil. Then big potroleum hijacked it.
 
2005-11-07 03:57:32 PM  
They will do exactly what California does. Turn their backs unless its something blatant like selling weed to someone who isn't supposed to have it "legally", or growing more than you would ever need for glaucoma.
 
2005-11-07 03:57:48 PM  
[image from brownsteins.net too old to be available]
"Another life ruined by Marijuana"
 
2005-11-07 03:58:47 PM  
wow Colorado is really being represented on Fark today, that abstinence article was in the Denver post.
Speaking of Abstinence, that entirely cancels out all the good of referendum 100
darn
 
2005-11-07 03:59:01 PM  
The only reason they are doing this is cause they are tired of arresting all the hippies in Boulder/Denver.....they want to go the real crimes
 
2005-11-07 03:59:26 PM  
I agree. Religion is the main reason it's not legal, and the fact that generations of government types would look awfully stupid just up and legalizing it. Although, I would hope that it happens in my lifetime cause it is about farking retarded.
 
2005-11-07 03:59:37 PM  
APE992
They will do exactly what California does. Turn their backs unless its something blatant like selling weed to someone who isn't supposed to have it "legally", or growing more than you would ever need for glaucoma.

We should think very carefully before giving our government more power to oppress by selectively prosecuting the law.

Legalize it.
 
2005-11-07 03:59:56 PM  
Follow Crosshair's advice.

1. Plant pot plants in pot hater lawmakers back yard.
2. Place anonymous phone call.
3. Profit.


Thanks to RICO laws, it'll be real interesting to see some officials getting their house and car confiscated for once.
 
2005-11-07 04:00:19 PM  
Gummint can't make SQUAT off weed if it's legal. Cuz it's like, a WEED, anybody can grow enough for their head on about 10 square feet of dirt with no effort.
 
2005-11-07 04:00:22 PM  
The writers arguments are extremely weak.

"By far the most important reason is that cities can't - or at least shouldn't - pick and choose among state laws to enforce. Those statutes are supposed to apply equally to all citizens."

Utter and total bullshiat. If a law is wrong, it's wrong. And in cases where a majority in the rural areas doesn't agree with the majority in the urban areas, then Amsterdamization is a perfectly acceptable solution.

During the prohibition many people were sent home free in spite of evidence through jury nullification. I would like to see what would happen if a marijuana case goes to jury in Denver and the jury decides that city law does indeed trump state law.
 
2005-11-07 04:00:31 PM  
What a stupid opinion piece. The author's reasons for enforcing the state law include:

2) It's another thing to charge people with, when we want to charge them with something.

3) We really didn't think it would pass, so it's okay to disregard the wishes of voters.

In other words, this way we can selectively bust people we don't like, and since people we don't like voted for it, we can ignore their votes.
 
2005-11-07 04:01:12 PM  
It's still pretty lenient in Boulder. Was just there in the summer, and people were just lighting up all over town. You could get a whiff coming out of Mcdonalds there.
 
2005-11-07 04:01:21 PM  
I am not a user, but am behind users' rights 100%. Jesus does not own your body. You do. Have at it.
 
2005-11-07 04:01:25 PM  
One time i smoked a doobie in denver and because it was legal, i felt no moral aversion to it and therefore consumed more cannabis!!!

If i had known that state law superceded the city law, i never woulda ruined my life and suck feet (sic saget)for weed.
 
2005-11-07 04:02:15 PM  
Chasedbymarshmellows

Unfortunately that isn't the case. The fact of the matter is that too many mega corporations and drug companies would lose out on a lot of money if marijuana was allowed into the general public. As long as the politicians keep getting money from major drug companies we won't see recreational drugs legalized even if they have uses that come to something other than a purely recreational end.
 
2005-11-07 04:02:47 PM  
ban alcohol.

does more damage.
 
2005-11-07 04:02:49 PM  
So, the writer's points can be boiled down to:

1)It's not nice to buck the status quo.
2)The Constitution says a city has to enforce state laws,
and 3)It's REALLY not nice to buck the status quo.

What sort of asshat pedant IS this guy? It's like the anti-drugs crowd have given up even making arguments in their own favor. "It's against the law, therefore, it is wrong. QED."

It's absolutely pathetic. There is NO - absolutely NO - good argument left for making marijuana illegal. Every medical and scientific one has been thrown at the window, nor have any sociological claims been substantiated. So all they have left is the blatant appeal to moral authority.

LAWS ARE NOT THEIR OWN END. In a FREE society, laws MUST serve a purpose. There has to be a public good being served. Any sort of appeal to authority, like this one, has an immediate tyrannical bent to it that should set off the BS detectors of everyone who enjoys actual freedom.

That is to say, the kind where you simply KNOW you are free, rather than the kind where the government has to remind you of your freedom over and over.
 
2005-11-07 04:03:05 PM  
Welcome to America
 
2005-11-07 04:03:28 PM  
Plus, if weed was legal, college students couldn't pay their tuition by selling it.
 
2005-11-07 04:05:05 PM  
this isn't news, it's an editorial

And I don't want it legalized...just de-criminalized. I don't want big business getting their hands on my buds...they'll take all the good crops, dilute them, pollute them, and I'll be stuck without any headies...
 
2005-11-07 04:05:49 PM  
These votes are just the first in a number of small steps toward true drug law reform. If you can pass something like this in a city the size of denver you can then hopefully ramp this up to a state level.

/Doesn't Smoke Pot
//Supports Non Draconian Drug laws
///Chicks that are high are easy
 
2005-11-07 04:06:07 PM  
Exactly why it's all a bunch of bullshiat
 
2005-11-07 04:06:12 PM  
ghare

You make a very valid point.
 
2005-11-07 04:06:58 PM  
Secondly [among reasons to charge people with posession], a pot charge is often a supplemental charge - an add-on to other charges such as trespass, public nuisance, etc. Law enforcement always likes to have as many arrows in its quiver as possible; if the perp gets off on one charge, perhaps he can be nailed with another.

Oh, of course. Can't have people getting off the hook just because they were found innocent of the charge for which they were arrested! Funny, I don't remember when the official stance of US law enforcement became "guilty until proven innocent, and then guilty after that too."

Granted, the police didn't write this article; a journalist did. But that brings up a new question: how can any American write that paragraph with a straight face and no tear in his eye? Any more pessimistic, and I would have mistaken that for an Onion short.
 
2005-11-07 04:07:20 PM  
Less02

Because marijuana lobbyists don't produce the campaign donations that ciggies and alcohol do

Bingo!

Give that man a bong!
 
2005-11-07 04:07:57 PM  
johnc98
God- I'm such a Latin dork that even "stadiums" drives me nuts...

According to Webster, "stadiums" and "stadia" are both correct.

Language changes, ya know...
 
2005-11-07 04:08:22 PM  
I mean, smoke is bad no matter how you take it, but it sure isn't any worse than cigs or alcohol especially. It's time for some sort of national decriminalization.
 
2005-11-07 04:09:49 PM  
and even if colorado state marijuana laws disappeared, they'd still have to enforce the federal ones.
 
2005-11-07 04:09:53 PM  
I maintain that this pressing marijuana question can be settled once and for all in a joint session of Congress.
 
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