Jamin Aura: anywhere south of the 45th parallel is a bunch of crazy assholes...

Lake Ann may be south of the 45th parallel, but not by much. Tickled to see my beloved newspaper, the Retching Beagle, become farkworthy. And with a reference to where I went to high school, 7 of the best years of my life!

Any other IAA alums here?

My Halloween costume:



\not a teacher
\\nor do I play one on TV
\\\Oooh, slashies!

If you are sending your child to a government school for their daily programming, chances are overwhelming that your bundle of joy is going to wind up becoming a liberal Democrat. Today, courtesy of The Los Angeles Unified School District, we're going to show you how it's done.

There was a Bush-bashing rally being held in Los Angeles the other day. It was called "The World Can't Wait Drive Out the Bush Regime." Eager for as many people to attend as possible, the school district allowed 800 high school students from 10 schools to walk right out of class to attend. No word if they were given extra credit for their participation.

On top of that, adult staff were supplied to accompany them, and buses were provided for their return. That's right...taxpayer money being spent for the whole thing. Now stop and ask yourself something for a minute...suppose an anti-Hillary Clinton rally were being held. Or a pro-Condoleezza Rice ralley (the next president of our country I might add) Would the same courtesy be extended? Of course not. The students wouldn't even be given the time of day to attend.

But because it was an event protesting the evil George Bush....the liberal, leftist, school administration jumped right on board. Those who send their children off to be indoctrinated in government schools should take note.You need to be very involved with your childs education, not only for the obvious reasons but also for the fact that you need to counter the indoctrination that the left will try to impose (Aware that, of course, not all public/government schools are that way.)

OK bad choice of costumes, but come on people how can anyone take this serious. I mean it had to be a joke. Think back to any evil people you have known or known of. Evil takes a certain amount of intelligence. Way more than Bush can summon. And I voted for the dweeb.

MerlinX
Is it just me or am I the only one who's noticed that there is absolutely no mention of the teacher's 1st amendment right of self expression.

"He said district policy allows for employees to exercise their free speech rights, but not on school grounds during work hours"

RTFA?

Farking Corksucker:

You are the first to mention it because the rest of us probably didn't think of that because we understand that everyone is for censorship and that there neeeds to be some in schools.


Everyone is for censorship? That's news to me!

Bush sucks - But the teacher should have known that would be a no-no.. I do like the idea of the shirt reading "I r teh stup1d" tho, because hey, you can debate wheather or not he's evil but we all know GW is the... well, fill in the blank.

OMG ROFL!!

Maybe the bush mask alone would have been sufficient. I know whenever I see that monkey mug I have a hard time controlling my sphincter.


As an emloyee of a school district, this type of behavior is totally inappropriate. While I may agree with the characterization of Bush by this clown, school kids should be taught to respect our leaders and figures of authority at least until they are old enough to realize what morons, cheats and liars they really are. Great Costume...wrong party.

I'm from just north of the 45th WindBreaker - East Jordan

All the 'cool' people live up north :)

pchef.....

My reference was to this thread.....I got your RTFA....

DBuck

So... you're saying education and Bush criticism are correlated?

Do you have any links to that story?


/CAN'T WAIT to see the inevitable Condoleezza/Hilary battle!

MR_Smartypants

http://www.nbc4.tv/politics/5232449/detail.html

See.. If they would just get vouchers.. then
I wouldn't be forced to have dumbasses like this teaching my kids.

I think wearing a flight suit and a chimpanzee mask would have gotten more or less the same point across, and provided plausible deniability on the teacher's part:

"I'm dressed as 'Ham,' one of the chimps in the Mercury program, who rode Little Joe rockets into the history books. Don't you people know anything about the history of manned spaceflight? This costume has nothing to do with the current Commander-in-Chimp, I mean Chief!"

On the one hand, this is a school - he's using time paid for by taxpayer dollars to talk politics to children who're legally required to be there - a captive audience.

On the other hand, Churches are also tax exempt (which is effectively government funding since they still have access to government utilities) and a large number of them tell people to vote for Bush.

On the gripping hand, this is a completley unproductive gesture by a 'tard, unlike how parishoners actually seem to listen to their church leaders who tell them how to vote.

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Frustration speaking:

Where are all the threads about sex? There was just the Spank Jessica Alba thread this morning and I got here too late to have any fun with that. I count on the amusement to get through my increadibly long Friday at work. Not even any boobies threads to spur conversation.

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/Frustrated
// That is all

Clearly a bad decision on the teacher's part. You don't have a right to do and say anything you want when you're working for someone else. Well, you do, but they've equal right to fire you and kick you off their property for doing it.

I'm was a proud Dean supporter and strongly dislike Bush, but a school (especially an elementary school) isn't the place for a teacher to push their political beliefs.

Jaboobinator

Farking Corksucker:

You are the first to mention it because the rest of us probably didn't think of that because we understand that everyone is for censorship and that there neeeds to be some in schools.

Everyone is for censorship? That's news to me!

I'm sorry that is news to you. Maybe you are the one, the person that isn't for any type of censorship. I doubt it, but maybe you are.

If you are against cigarette billboards facing elementary schools, you are for censorship

If you are against pornos being showed during saturday morning cartoons, you are for censorship

If you are against hate or racist speech being spoken in peoples faces, you are for censorship

If you are against your boss being able to cuss all he wants at you, you are for censorship

If you are against grown men flashing women, you are for censorship

I dunno, you might be the ONE, but somehow I doubt it

Non-story


/obligatory

i'm Batman

In my humble opinion that was about as appropriate as a teacher wearing a Clinton mask and a shirt saying "I'm an adulterer" or an Elton John mask with the words "I take it up the ass" on it.

GurneyHalleck

It's too late to keep politics and religion out of the schools. Bush's push to cut education spending is a political act in of itself. It's class warfare. And the voucher program is totally geared to benefit religious accountable education institutions. That's government-sponsored religion.

The guy in this article is patriot compared to Bush.

Fixed it for you.

absolutben
In my humble opinion that was about as appropriate as a teacher wearing a Clinton mask and a shirt saying "I'm an adulterer" or an Elton John mask with the words "I take it up the ass" on it.

I think we have found the sober farker...

DBuck

Well, thanks for posting the link, but I think you're reading way too much administration support than is actually in the article.

A) The students are going to leave if they want to, and a lockdown won't work (as the disturbance it caused in Van Nuys demonstrates).

B) The school is responsible for the students during school hours, so naturally, they're going to send adults along to make sure they stay out of trouble. ALSO, notice, they didn't bus the students TO the protest, they just facilitated their return to school.

C) Even the language of the school administrators (calling the students "truants") demonstrates their lack of support for students to attend this protest.

D) Nowhere does the article say the students will not be punished (detention, etc.) for their truancy.


In my experience, politics stays out of K-12. (of course, my K-12 was mostly during the Clinton Admin.)

Then I went to college...

Windbreaker

Lake Ann may be south of the 45th parallel, but not by much. Tickled to see my beloved newspaper, the Retching Beagle, become farkworthy. And with a reference to where I went to high school, 7 of the best years of my life!

Any other IAA alums here?

Nope, but I did grow up in Traverse City, so I've known a few arts academy students. It's kind of frightening how often the RE has been showing up on fark lately. Our crazies are leaking out to the rest of the world.

Lake Ann is only about 10 miles below the parallel. Does that make 'em only slightly assholish? :)

N. S. Radieaux: It took the artist like an hour just to get the shading on the upper lip right.

"In a public school classroom setting, is it acceptable for a teacher to express their personal beliefs or opinions if asked by a student?"

If the person was a good teacher they would state what they believe but then at the same time acknowledge the other side of the fence. A good way to start a debate that the students can learn from.

A lot of people don't bother to acknowledge that there are people that feel differently about the topic, they believe that their way is the right way and everyone else is flat out wrong. You can feel strongly about something but at the same time realize that other folks can feel the complete opposite and that neither one of you may actually be right.

I first read it as a Bert mask. Now that's something I could support.

/bert is evil

I AM a high school teacher.

Maybe I should start wearing a "Liberals support Terrorists" shirt to work.

Or maybe just a button.

That's OK right?

DBuck
There was a Bush-bashing rally being held in Los Angeles the other day. It was called "The World Can't Wait Drive Out the Bush Regime." Eager for as many people to attend as possible, the school district allowed 800 high school students from 10 schools to walk right out of class to attend. No word if they were given extra credit for their participation.

On top of that, adult staff were supplied to accompany them, and buses were provided for their return. That's right...taxpayer money being spent for the whole thing. Now stop and ask yourself something for a minute...suppose an anti-Hillary Clinton rally were being held. Or a pro-Condoleezza Rice ralley (the next president of our country I might add) Would the same courtesy be extended? Of course not. The students wouldn't even be given the time of day to attend.


do you have a link for anymore information on that? it seems to be lacking some pertinant details.

My Gym teacher wore shorts and a T-shirt on Halloween and I still think about her to this very day.

DBuck -- Since our country is swirling down the pooper, I think it's great that our kids want to lend their voice.

Not everyone has to be as dumb as you.

Nutsac_jim

Why did you replace "religious" with accountable.

Clearly, they are mostly religious (and, more than that, Christian).

"Accountable" needs more info:

Accountable to whom?

How does their accountability diminish the fact that they require religious indoctrination?

I just had a turtle head poke out and I think it might have left a mark. I guess it is time to push out another corncake.

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cheapimmitation

Link was promptly provided above, after I asked:

MR_Smartypants

http://www.nbc4.tv/politics/5232449/detail.html

Note my criticisms of DBuck's interpretation above.

the "Free Mumia" t-shirt must have been at the cleaners.

king george
I AM a high school teacher.

Maybe I should start wearing a "Liberals support Terrorists" shirt to work.

Or maybe just a button.

That's OK right?

No, that would fall under "political expression" which they said was not allowed at work. You could do that on your time off but not at work.

Do you really teach kids because I think even my daughter can comprehend that one. Or were you just making a silly kid-like reactionary argument for elementary effect?

GurneyHalleck: Bush's push to cut education spending is a political act in of itself. And the voucher program is totally geared to benefit religious education institutions.

1) A cut in the increase of spending does not mean they get less money than they did the previous year. Our educational bureaucracy hemmorhages money. Something like $8 out of every $10 of our tax dollars meant to educate our children is wasted in Washington.

2) Our public educational system is a farce because of their unions. Good teachers are paid the same as bad teachers, so there is no incentives to do well. Good teachers teach at private schools, where they will get paid better, so the children who go there get better educations. The voucher system is intended for people like my cousin, who pays taxes, but has to pay an additional $20,000 each year to send his two daughters to private school so they will get a good education. They spent one year in the public system, it sucked, so he withdrew them. He should be allowed to spend his educational dollars on a good education.

This Flame Thread has just gotten silly. Stop that right now. We'll have no more silliness.

I dislike Bush but this teacher is an asshat.

You should never air your personal beliefs in sex, religion, or politics to your children.

gabba2

I dare you to tell a teacher that teaching isn't real work. Plus, most teachers have to pay their tuitions, so that involves some real work before they become a teacher.

/wife is a teacher
//don't get to spend much time wither thanks to marking/planning late every freakin' night
///at least the pay's good here in Canada

I dunno, you might be the ONE, but somehow I doubt it



he is the one. . .

\i know kung fu

Im all for academic freedom of teachers, but it crosses a specific line when teachers use their position of authority/rolemodel-ness to proselytize in the classroom.

Anybody have any stats on this???