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(Yahoo)   Actor and model warn people about mercury in fish, then unveil their proof of Fermat's Last Theorem   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 144
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2005-10-21 06:40:26 PM
naturally, the suit matches the hair-- sartorial splendor at its finest.
 
2005-10-21 06:41:14 PM
dan131m

You will note that that was the first and second possibility that I listed.
 
2005-10-21 06:41:47 PM


/obvious
 
2005-10-21 06:42:28 PM


FYI...
Wonder what the level of mercury is in her fish
 
2005-10-21 06:42:56 PM
dan131m

Oh, idempotent operator. I misread as "idempotent element". Never mind.

But, why does N have to be a positive integer?
 
2005-10-21 06:47:53 PM
There ya go again, Jesus 2.0. Always with the negative vibes...
 
2005-10-21 06:55:03 PM
samimgreen: Hey stop stepping on our jealous rants of the rich and famous. You'll make us go out and do something instead of ranting on the intraweb thingie.

I know where you are coming from.

I will say this:

Celebrities (and professional sports players) do less for our society than teachers and scientists. It is they that will help us out in our old age (teachers teach the next generation of cancer researchers). And I would pay season tickets to go see a mathematician show me the proof of Fermat's last theorem on the big screen.

That said, anyone getting a message out (hopefully the correct message - for the opposite, see Tom Cruise) to those that read People Magazine more than Scientific American is always a good thing.
 
2005-10-21 06:59:15 PM


 
2005-10-21 07:11:46 PM
Did you know that he (Danson) has a BS in Chemical Engineering from Carnegie Mellon? Not that that makes him an expert on Mercury poisoning, but it probably makes him more qualified than the average farker who makes fun of him.
 
2005-10-21 07:13:26 PM
samimgreen

How did that mercury get up into the backside of that dude on the dock?

Mercury got into the backside of every dude he could.
 
2005-10-21 07:20:06 PM
I don't know about her mercury levels, but amber certainly has fish LIPS
 
2005-10-21 07:29:31 PM
Jesus 2.0

Oh, idempotent operator. I misread as "idempotent element". Never mind.

But, why does N have to be a positive integer?


Because T^0 is defined as the identity, and T^-k is defined as the kth power of the inverse, or undefined if the inverse doesn't exist. Note that the inverse of an idempotent is itself idempotent if it exists, so in this case T^-k = T^-1.
 
2005-10-21 07:34:28 PM
FERMAT'S PROOF HAS BEEN PROVEN ALREADY!

Why Do we need a second!?!
 
2005-10-21 07:42:15 PM
This is news? We were being warned about high mercury levels in fish back in the early 70s- especially swordfish. But geeze, I had no idea Ted's hair had gotten into such a state!
 
2005-10-21 07:43:08 PM
I do not think Ted Danson got a Chemical Engineering degree from Carnegie Mellon's College of Fine Arts. Maybe he can act like he does.

clicky pop
 
2005-10-21 07:52:00 PM
Homer was almost right:

1782^12 + 1841^12 = 2541210258614589176288669958142428526657
1922^12           = 2541210259314801410819278649643651567616


3987^12 + 4365^12 = 63976656349698612616236230953154487896987106
4472^12           = 63976656348486725806862358322168575784124416

/Mathematica rawks
 
2005-10-21 07:54:39 PM
Many of you mock my interest in the pastry sciences.

/got nothin'
 
2005-10-21 08:09:16 PM
integralRich:

Homer was almost right:

1782^12 + 1841^12 = 2541210258614589176288669958142428526657
1922^12 = 2541210259314801410819278649643651567616

3987^12 + 4365^12 = 63976656349698612616236230953154487896987106
4472^12 = 63976656348486725806862358322168575784124416


Thank you.
 
2005-10-21 08:20:41 PM
JJJon

FERMAT'S PROOF HAS BEEN PROVEN ALREADY!

Why Do we need a second!?!


I realize that you're just screwing around, but I'll go ahead and answer that question. The current proof of Fermat's last theorem proceeds by showing that solutions to the Fermat equation correspond to semistable, non-modular elliptic curves, and then putting conditions on those curves. The problem with this being, what are elliptic curves?

Okay, so I know what they are, but I'll bet that you don't. And that's the problem. Fermat's last theorem is fundamentally a problem in number theory. We've cheated a little in the last few years by creating "analytic number theory," but even that's somewhat reasonable because most serious high school students have some grasp of calculus. Even the use of a little group theory in number theory is fine, because it generally just echoes what a number-theoretic proof would look like while removing some needless clutter. But when you start bringing in things like elliptic curves, you're by necessity shutting out an enormous segment of the population from ever understanding what's going on. That's a problem.

And even among people who do understand the Taniyama-Shimura Conjecture, the proof is incredibly long, which impedes someone from understanding it at first glance. Asking why we need another proof of the FLT is like asking why we need the F-150 when we already had the Model T, or why we need electrical appliances when we can just suspend a pot over boiling water. Nobody particularly cares whether there are solutions to x^n + y^n = z^n; it's how to figure it out that's interesting.
 
2005-10-21 08:31:46 PM
spucky
And I would pay season tickets to go see a mathematician show me the proof of Fermat's last theorem on the big screen.

You can get the first part of it on video, and maybe play it on a big-screen TV or something...
 
2005-10-21 08:31:47 PM
 
2005-10-21 08:34:28 PM
Ya want obscure? I gotcher obscure right here:

 
2005-10-21 08:37:03 PM
spucky

Ahem, on video.

/Bad link wasn't my fault
//I swear.
 
2005-10-21 08:52:46 PM
Ted Danson is looking a lot like my Aunt Betty, down to the frost pink lipstick.
 
2005-10-21 08:59:50 PM
Cardinal:
Eugene "Mercury" Morris is NOT obscure. Any football fan over the age of 35 should recognize him.
 
2005-10-21 09:05:24 PM
> 2005-10-21 04:25:36 PM tinrobot
>
> I bet if you raise Ted Danson to the Nth power, you'd still get Ted Danson.

So Ted Danson is either zero or e^(2*pi*k / (N-1))?
 
2005-10-21 09:12:10 PM
Thats just great, an actor and a model team up. i knew this day wasn't far off. no hope now.
 
2005-10-21 09:33:31 PM
Ted Danson now looks like a bitter, strident lesbian
 
2005-10-21 09:39:36 PM
uh, FLT theorem was proved back in the 90's...in a highly technical but stunning display of mathematical genius not seen in years...it essentially was a proof of a conjecture, the conjecture that an eliptic curve (of genus 2) is a modular form...

//sorry but i don't have picture of that dork with the molest-ache...
 
2005-10-21 09:52:59 PM


R D R R!
 
2005-10-21 09:56:44 PM
Anyone ever seen Ted Danson in Anson?
 
2005-10-21 10:02:59 PM
Ted is starting to look a little like Andy Warhol
/he never did have a lick of sense
 
2005-10-21 10:03:29 PM
I work for Ted Danson...

Ok nevermind, I can't even joke about working for that loser.
 
2005-10-21 10:10:17 PM
Not a total Threadjack, but didn't some guy go all recluse in his apartment and thought he had solved Fermat's Theorem, then disappeared?
 
2005-10-21 10:11:57 PM
 
2005-10-21 10:13:11 PM
Avialableforcomment

Anti-Hg or just anti-VAX?

Go to the autism sites and you'll see that anti-Hg is often used as a veneer for anti-VAX.

PS - is there a secret code in your handle or is it just missppelledd?

*checks the moms against mercury site*

Let's see who's on the board. Oh baby! Boyd Haley! Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
The answer is missppelledd.
 
2005-10-21 10:13:45 PM
nuclear_asshat:

Not a total Threadjack, but didn't some guy go all recluse in his apartment and thought he had solved Fermat's Theorem, then disappeared?


No, what happened was that the mathmatician got constipated, but he worked it out with a pencil.
 
2005-10-21 10:34:10 PM
Speaking of constipation, did you know that doctors used to prescribe mercury pills for constipation?

Works in minutes.. Literally..

Like Doom 3 comin' out yer ass..
 
2005-10-21 10:34:16 PM
Avialableforcomment: I'm sorry but Bruce Willis and Alec Baldwin already tried to warm you people

We didn't listen!
 
2005-10-21 10:44:06 PM
moran: So Ted Danson is either zero or e^(2*pi*k / (N-1))?

close. you keep forgetting to carry the 1
 
2005-10-21 10:44:17 PM
The headline is funny.

The picture of Ted Danson is funny.

If my 5 year old child eats 4 ounces of tuna in 1 week, he gets 240% of the maximum recommended "dose" of mercury, according to the EPA.

That isn't funny.
 
2005-10-21 11:00:11 PM
just to add i too came here for the sole reason of hearing what was said about fermat's last theorem. a simple relation and statement he makes in some notebook. but also with some freehand comment in the margin that (paraphrasing from memory) 'i found a simple sol'n!'...

i got into a discussion w/ the theorist next door to my office at about the time that this was finally proven, what, 5-6 years ago?
anyway, he said that this was a completely modern proof. i.e. fermat really could not have been expected to pull it off with the tools at the time. so i took this to mean that fermat innately 'knew' that the theorem was good, but couldn't prove it, so he threw his opinion in the margin.

clear as day. on intuition. -> bad a55

and re: homer, let's remember that he got it right to 8-10 digits. not to shabby.
 
2005-10-22 01:04:02 AM
drammach
Speaking of constipation, did you know that doctors used to prescribe mercury pills for constipation?

Works in minutes.. Literally..

Like Doom 3 comin' out yer ass..


One of my profs told us about a guy who tried to off himself by ingesting copious amounts of liquid mercury. It sucks as a suicide method, but works great as a laxative. Very dense, immiscible fluid goes straight through the tubing and pushes out everything in front of it.
 
2005-10-22 02:14:34 AM
Personally I liked the headline.
/golf clap
 
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