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(MSNBC)   Lake-faring Vikings allegedly sack booty; scandal potentially ruins $675m stadium deal   (quote.bloomberg.com ) divider line
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2005-10-14 04:45:12 PM  
allow me to be the first to say .....

[image from andrew.cmu.edu too old to be available]

/dumb farkers. no poonani is worth $675 million.. and i'm sure Steven Spielberg can relate.
 
2005-10-14 04:57:34 PM  
repeat?
Bobbylishus
Steven Spielberg can relate
that even hurts my feelings. ouch.
 
2005-10-14 04:59:21 PM  
There was no stadium deal. Why would be buld a stadium for a disgracefull team such as the Vikings. Especially since they would only play 8 home games?
 
2005-10-14 04:59:29 PM  
ditto on the ha-ha

/vi-queens suck
//bears fan
 
2005-10-14 04:59:58 PM  
I thought the article said "Love Boaters Should Be Belched." I just got a really weird image of Isaac holding Gopher up on his shoulder and tapping his back.

Man, I really need to get out more.
 
2005-10-14 05:01:17 PM  
A business deal being influenced by subjective morality? Idiots.
 
2005-10-14 05:03:24 PM  
It's not a buisness deal, they want the tax payers to pay for the stadium, that we don't want, for a team we don't want and are ashamed to be associated with.
 
2005-10-14 05:04:20 PM  
Stupid, the stadium should be about what's best for the future of the team, not what a few players decided to do on a boat.
 
2005-10-14 05:04:35 PM  
Basically, it's just another Governor paying back his political supporters with taxpayer dollers. One more in a long line of scumbags.
 
2005-10-14 05:07:17 PM  
A three-hour boat trip? Isn't this exactly how Gilligan's adventure started? Then again, it does explain why Ginger and Mary Ann were invited on board (maybe Mrs. Howell was their pimp).
 
2005-10-14 05:08:40 PM  
Look you have to unserdand the situation with the stadiums. The Twins want their own stadium, the Vikings want their own stadium, the Gophers want their own stadium. None of them want to pay for it. They all want Minnesota tax payers to pay for their stadiums. If they were willing to pay for their stadiums then they can fark donkeys on public busses for all I care. But when they ask people for money to continue to be jackasses we tell them no. They don't deserve a stadium, and what's best for the future of the team is up to them.
 
2005-10-14 05:09:47 PM  
these selfish players can take the money that they spend "getting their drink on" "getting their smoke on" and "getting their skank on" and build their own stadium.

if they don't have enough money between all of them, then maybe they can keep their shirts off, and put those steroids to good use by building it by hand themselves.

then their lawyers, agents, gravy-training family members, and other freeloaders can fill the stands.

i can see why red mccombs sold this bunch of losers to the first sucker he met with any cash.

but i'm sure there's an nba team out there that can top this act in terms of stupidity. it never fails.
 
2005-10-14 05:09:48 PM  
If it queers the stadium deal, then I submit they were gun-shy to begin with and looking for a good reason to bail on Minnesota.
 
2005-10-14 05:10:04 PM  
theigorway

Basically you're just a moron who doesn't know what he's talking about.
 
2005-10-14 05:12:14 PM  
Hose the taxpayers by building a swanky hang-out for some billionaire and his multi-millionaire players, all the while neglecting education, health care, and crime? Ok, sounds good.

The players all had sex with some chicks on a boat? OMFG we can't build the stadium!!11!11!
 
2005-10-14 05:12:39 PM  
I thought the goal in life was to get rich and have boat orgies.
 
2005-10-14 05:12:45 PM  
I'm sure there are better uses for that money. Come on now.
 
2005-10-14 05:14:04 PM  
ryantea44: there is better use for that money...

give it to halliburton and tell them to say it's for rebuilding minneapolis
 
2005-10-14 05:18:04 PM  
Drew_that Look you have to unserdand the situation with the stadiums. The Twins want their own stadium, the Vikings want their own stadium, the Gophers want their own stadium. None of them want to pay for it. They all want Minnesota tax payers to pay for their stadiums. If they were willing to pay for their stadiums then they can fark donkeys on public busses for all I care. But when they ask people for money to continue to be jackasses we tell them no. They don't deserve a stadium, and what's best for the future of the team is up to them.

Exactly! Except for the farking donkeys on public buses part. They can fark them at the bus *stop* but I don't want donkeys on my bus.
 
2005-10-14 05:19:36 PM  
Situation: The Vikings, Twins, and Gophers all play in the Metrodome, an all-purpose pile of crap that was built in the early 80s.

The Twins need the stadium the worst. It sucks for baseball, they get screwed out of revenue by the lease, and baseball should be played outdoors.

The Gophers need an actual on-campus college football stadium. That would be the cheapest, but is also the lowest-priority since they won't be leaving the state.

The Vikings are locked into playing in the dome until 2011 by some lease arrangment and letter from the commish (not that lawyers can't find a way around those things). However, the metrodome doesn't make the team much money and the Vikes rank either last or next-to-last in team value.

So, $700 million for a Vikes stadium in Blaine, $500 million for a Twins stadium in Minneapolis, and $300 million for an on campus stadium at the U is a tough sell for the people and politicians of Minnesota.

/Wish it would get done, but living in VA and not paying MN taxes
//Still love the Vikes - even though they make it tough sometimes
 
2005-10-14 05:20:32 PM  
*Turboslut 5000*

Don't forget the hookers and blow!!!
 
2005-10-14 05:21:31 PM  
[image from stadiumsofnfl.com too old to be available]

Oh no! You mean we may be deprived of one domed shiatehole surrounded by parking lots being replaced by a newer domed shiatehole surrounded by parking lots????

The horror...
 
2005-10-14 05:23:22 PM  
I hate the Patriots, but I respect Bob Kraft for at least paying for his own damn stadium.

Incidentally, I bet anything that all these owners demanding that taxpayers pony up hundreds of millions for their stadiums also believe themselves to be "fiscal conservatives."
 
2005-10-14 05:24:10 PM  
Gee, it wasn't hard for the Timberwolves and the Wild to get their own stadiums. I wonder why they're called the Target Center and the Xcel Energy Center. Hmm...
 
2005-10-14 05:24:51 PM  
Meanwhile in L.A.:

Kobe laughs!
 
2005-10-14 05:27:17 PM  
As a Minnesota taxpayer, I couldn't be happier.
 
2005-10-14 05:29:22 PM  
They turned the boat around at 40 minutes. Do you suppose it took 35 to get the party up to speed - or do you suppose there was 35 minutes of "I swear to Thor Thorvaldson I'll turn this boat around"?
 
2005-10-14 05:30:08 PM  
They wanted to raise the sales taxe only in the city they planned on building the stadium in (this was true for both the Vikings and the Twins.)

It makes sense because the cities that have the stadiums would see the largest increase in revenue (bars, hotels...etc.)

They wanted to raise the sales tax .5%. About 30 bucks per year per person. Chump change. But all the people here in this effinf state screamed bloody murder, especially those whack jobs in the iron range who would never pay the extra sales tax.

And all the other whackos were saying this was taxation without representaion because there were no plans for a referendum. Again, idiots. You are being represented because the people YOU VOTED FOR (the city council) approved the sales tax hike.

Whatever.

(I just want a new Twins park. Is that so much to ask?)
 
2005-10-14 05:30:15 PM  
FalloutZone, what's wrong with the Metrodome?

I agree that the Gophers could use a new joint, but I don't want to see new Twins and Vikings stadiums. The reason I don't want them is because they'll be (mostly) taxpayer-funded, and will go unused a good portion of the year. I, as a taxpayer, don't want my money to go towards something that will only be used some of the time, and that I'll still have to buy a $35 ticket to enter.

If the Twins and Vikes want new stadiums, they can cough up the cash themselves.

The Metrodome isn't a pile of junk anyway; yes, it's 20 years old, but so what? It's still quite useful. No, it's not as cushy as the Xcel, but it serves its purpose well.
 
2005-10-14 05:30:34 PM  
The skins also paid for their own stadium, and thusly is why the Redskins is the premier team in the NFL in terms of making money. Say what you will about the now deceased Jack Kent Cook and now owner Dan Snyder, but Jack knew what he was doing (he started his career selling dictionaries door to door to become a NFL team owner) and Dan also does when he paid what was *gasp* too much oney for a franchise now worth over a billion. Smart guys those two wer/are!
 
2005-10-14 05:30:48 PM  
The Twins need the stadium the worst. It sucks for baseball, they get screwed out of revenue by the lease, and baseball should be played outdoors.

The Gophers need an actual on-campus college football stadium. That would be the cheapest, but is also the lowest-priority since they won't be leaving the state.

The Vikings are locked into playing in the dome until 2011 by some lease arrangment and letter from the commish (not that lawyers can't find a way around those things). However, the metrodome doesn't make the team much money and the Vikes rank either last or next-to-last in team value.

So, $700 million for a Vikes stadium in Blaine, $500 million for a Twins stadium in Minneapolis, and $300 million for an on campus stadium at the U is a tough sell for the people and politicians of Minnesota.


The Gophs stadium looked like it was a done deal in a special session a few days ago, and it seems like most of the legislators liked the deal. The crap thing is that some of the big money offers to help the U out with the stadium, like the one from TCF Bank, go away before the start of the next session.
 
2005-10-14 05:32:49 PM  
Dr. Since you live in St Paul, the only time your tax dollars would be used toward the stadium is when you came across the river to Mpls.

Minnesotans just hear 'public money for stadiums' and start freaking out before reading the details behind the plan.
 
2005-10-14 05:33:31 PM  
The Metrodome isn't a pile of junk anyway; yes, it's 20 years old, but so what? It's still quite useful. No, it's not as cushy as the Xcel, but it serves its purpose well.

I have to say, no one was complaining about how crappy the Dome was during the '87 World Series. I haven't been to a place that compares with the crowd noise that the Dome can generate. I just went to the Michigan game last weekend, and even with 2.5 times as many people as normally come for a Gopher game, the noise wasn't even close. I was somewhat disappointed, actually.
 
2005-10-14 05:37:56 PM  
The Metrodome is a nice little football park. It just stinks for baseball.

Just my opinion. Doesn't mean I am right.

You know what I do find ironic though? Every year the Twins do HUGE marekting campaign to try and boost attendance. 'Gotta see 'em!!' - 'Get to know 'em.'

Basically begging Minnesotans to come to the dome to watch a game.

All the while telling us over and over again how much the metrodome sucks and how they need a new park.

Doesn't make much sense to me.
 
2005-10-14 05:41:39 PM  
chechcal -

I just need to make one corection: There are almost no parking lots around the Metrodome.
 
2005-10-14 05:41:43 PM  
I complained about how crappy the dome was in '87. And also in '91. It is the worst ballpark ever.
 
2005-10-14 05:42:15 PM  
included things like sex acts between consenting adults out on deck

[image from images.hollywood.com too old to be available]
/Unavailable for comment.
 
2005-10-14 05:46:11 PM  
ryantea44

Meanwhile in L.A.:

Kobe laughs Still no NFL franchise!


There, all better.
 
2005-10-14 05:47:42 PM  
Quick1:

I have to say, no one was complaining about how crappy the Dome was during the '87 World Series. I haven't been to a place that compares with the crowd noise that the Dome can generate. I just went to the Michigan game last weekend, and even with 2.5 times as many people as normally come for a Gopher game, the noise wasn't even close. I was somewhat disappointed, actually.

Didn't the fans tear down the goalposts at a Gopher's game once and try to take them out of the stadium, only to be thwarted by the revolving doors?

In 1997 after the Cal Stanford game enraged Cal fans tore down Stanford's goal posts (even though we lost), carried them to the top of the stadium and threw them over the edge.

Ahhh college, how can so many smart people act so dumb?

oh yeah, beer.
 
2005-10-14 05:47:45 PM  
I just need to make one corection: There are almost no parking lots around the Metrodome.

Are you kidding? Sure you might have to walk a few blocks, but there are a ton of parking spots near the Dome. There just aren't very many that are great for tailgating in.
 
2005-10-14 05:48:35 PM  
Didn't the fans tear down the goalposts at a Gopher's game once and try to take them out of the stadium, only to be thwarted by the revolving doors?

Those were Iowa fans, I think after they locked up a Rose Bowl bid
 
2005-10-14 05:49:57 PM  
these are Pro athlete... aren't we expecting actions like this now? what the hell is even wrong with what they did in the first place? if i was paid ungodly amounts of money for what i could do with my body i would be throwing sex party after sex party... hell i would do it simply given the amount of money
 
2005-10-14 05:50:36 PM  
Good! I hope they leave to another city. The whole having tax payers pay for sports arenas is crazy.

I hated going downtown anytime there was a game, brings out all of the load stupid people and makes going to bars unbearable.
 
2005-10-14 05:52:35 PM  
what the hell is even wrong with what they did in the first place?

The fact that they were dumb enough to CHARTER a boat, and the fact that the charter service had serving gals and guys who aren't even 18 yet. IT's not the fact that they had a sex party, it's who they exposed the party to. Literally and figuratively.
 
2005-10-14 05:53:04 PM  
LOL. loud people... not load.

That will teach me not to try and do 4 different things at a time. I just want to get home!
 
2005-10-14 05:53:24 PM  
eh, just build the stadium and sell the naming rights to Trojan. It generates revenue and sends a good message to the kids.

/always wear condoms when banging strippers
 
2005-10-14 05:54:14 PM  
I hated going downtown anytime there was a game, brings out all of the load stupid people and makes going to bars unbearable.

Those stupid people are keeping your favorite bars in business. I agree that taxpayers shouldn't have to pay tons of money for stadiums, but to say that those arenas don't help out local economies is ludicrous.
 
2005-10-14 05:54:38 PM  
Major League Baseball can bite my shiny metal ass. I still resent them for going on strike whatever year that was. The Twins want money for a stadium? I'll give them ten bucks to mow my lawn. And they better do a good job around the edges.

The Vikes are perennial also-rans. I moved to Minnesota for school in 1986. First thing anyone said to me about the Vikings was this barber, "So, did we make a Vikings fan out of you yet?" he says. "Not yet," says I. "Oh, those Vikings, they'll break your heart every time." At least this year they're sucking it up before the playoffs. I can live with that, rather than them trying to get hopes up. No stadium for them.

Don't care so much for the Gophers one way or the other. But I'm dead set against all of these teams getting their own facility on my dime. If it was going to be any of them, I'd be most charitable to the Gophers. Like some previous poster said, at least they aren't going to threaten to leave the state. And billionaires getting richer on handouts from the state really tick me off.
 
2005-10-14 05:54:54 PM  
ShelfSkewed, I'd rather have the beach than a team nobody gives a fark about.... Like Minnesota.

/pats himself on shoulder
//putting other people down makes him feel powerful
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2005-10-14 05:57:31 PM  
Minnesotans just hear 'public money for stadiums' and start freaking out before reading the details behind the plan.

Forcing residents to shell out over 300mil for a stadium they have no ownership of is pretty ridiculous. Owners should be the ones paying for the goddamn thing. Stuff like this amounts to corporate welfare. If you are an owner and can't figure out how to afford to pay for a new stadium, you don't deserve one.

/Vikings suck
 
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