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(The Sun)   Frank Sinatra impersonator arrested for drunk driving by policeman named Dean Martin   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 56
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2005-09-28 09:03:28 PM
mmmm that's some sweet irony!!!
 
2005-09-28 09:12:45 PM
Wins just for proper use of the irony tag
 
2005-09-28 09:17:17 PM
Very nice. Headline gives us all we need, don't need to RTFA. It's one of those things we'd tell our friends, "hey, you hear a Frank Sinatra impersonator was arrested for drunk driving by a policeman named Dean Martin?" "No." "Yeah." "Wow." "Anyway... so dude, is your wife still cheating on you with your brother?" "Yeah, I think so, the other day she..." yadda yadda yadda.
 
2005-09-28 09:54:03 PM
Headline gives us all we need, don't need to RTFA.

Did you click the link? The headline almost WAS TFA.
 
2005-09-29 01:12:37 AM
When your car hits the wall
Like a big meat-a-ball
That's your right to remain silent.
 
2005-09-29 01:43:16 AM
Yeah im just gonna file this article under 'super farking ironical'.

/freeze punk! irony police, put down your trolling gear and step away from the thread.
 
2005-09-29 01:43:59 AM
Wow, that's a poorly constructed sentence. How about: Policeman named Dean Martin arrests Frank Sinatra impersonator for drunk driving.
Now it's teh funny and isn't ambiguous. And it's also active. Bonus!
 
2005-09-29 01:45:12 AM


At least Dean wasn't dressed as a priest.
 
2005-09-29 01:51:33 AM
Where's the damn irony?
 
2005-09-29 01:52:51 AM
isnt it coincidental? dont you think?
 
2005-09-29 01:57:59 AM
Maybe the fact Dean Martin drunk himself into a living corpse ??

Has anyone seen pics from his restuarant table days ?? That is a curb-your-drinking advertisement right there.
 
2005-09-29 01:58:10 AM


/Irony?
//You decide.
 
2005-09-29 02:06:34 AM
Wow. Its like 10000 spoons when all you need is a knife...
 
2005-09-29 02:08:32 AM
I fail to see the irony. What we have here is a coincidence.
 
2005-09-29 02:26:53 AM
(Lecturing Hat on) Irony is when there a is gap or contradiction between what's expected and what actually occurs.

Rain on my wedding day is not ironic, because there should be no correlation between my plans and the global weather system. To expect it not to rain would be moronic on my part.

On the other hand, a fire station burning down due to a smouldering cigarette would be ironic, because I should expect fireman to practice exceptional fire safety.

This is not ironic either. There is no correlation between the name of a person being arrested and the arresting officer's name. It's humorous, yes. Ironic, no.

(Lecure hat off)
 
2005-09-29 02:40:18 AM
Hmm, that reminds me ...

Remember that song, "Ironic" ? Remember that one? "Isn't it Ironic"...no it's not, ask me another...She kept naming all these things in her song that were supposed to be ironic, and none of them were...they were all just unfortunate...Song should've been called "Unfortunate"...The only ironic thing about that song is that it's called "Ironic" and it is written by a woman who doesn't know what irony is, that's quite ironic when you think about it...

'Cause you look at some of the lyrics ..."Like a traffic jam when you're already late...", that's not ironic - that's just a pain in the hole, that's about it...when was the last time you were late, got stuck in a traffic jam and thought...oh look at the irony on this hey...here's irony for you, I was in a fierce ironic traffic jam the other day I tell you...I was going down Point Road, the irony was backed up for miles it was...there's nothing ironic about being stuck in a traffic jam when you're late for something - unless you're a town planner...If you were a town planner and you were late for a seminar at which you were giving a talk on how you solved the problem of traffic congestion in your area, couldn't get to it because you got stuck in a traffic jam - that'd be bloody well ironic wouldn't it ? "Lads, I'm sorry I missed it, you'd never guess"...maybe that's what she meant...

Thankyou Ed Byrne !! Funny Irish guy he is :-)
 
2005-09-29 02:42:54 AM
i thought that he got no kick from champagne.
 
2005-09-29 02:43:56 AM
On the other hand, who would expect to be nabbed for DUI by Deano?
 
2005-09-29 02:46:09 AM
Ok Ok !!!

People !! It is ironic AND a coincidence.

A) Ironic because Dean Martin was an alcoholic
B) Coincidence because arrester and arrestee share the same names of two players in the Rat Pack.

Anyone named Dean Martin arresting anyone else for drunk driving is ironic. End of story !

And yeh, now we are bordering on moronic.

:-)
 
2005-09-29 02:47:54 AM
"there was nobody driving officer, we were all in the back seat."
"i ain't walking that white line unless you put a net under it."
 
2005-09-29 02:52:15 AM
"I'll have a burger and a coke please and my buddy will have some fries."
 
2005-09-29 03:01:51 AM
NathanO: Anyone named Dean Martin arresting anyone else for drunk driving is ironic. End of story !

It would only be ironic if Dean Martin himself actually did arrest someone for drunk driving.
 
2005-09-29 03:18:02 AM
 
2005-09-29 03:18:46 AM
Here are some more potentially ironic headlines:

"Bill Gates's credit card declined at local restaurant"
"Dick Cheney's ambulance runs out of gas while transporting him to emergency room"
"President Bush's Crawford ranch investigated for EPA violations"
"Bill Frist cuts ribbon at local humane society groundbreaking"
 
2005-09-29 03:22:00 AM
No man:

It would only be ironic if Dean Martin himself actually did arrest someone for drunk driving.

But the fact that he stopped a Sinatra impersonator puts the scenario well into 'imaginary rat-pack' land.
 
2005-09-29 03:23:17 AM
That is true.

However :-)

The fact the real Dean Martin was an alcoholic AND someone named Dean Martin arrested someone for drunk driving I believe adds a degree of irony.

If I was pulled over by Dean Martin for speeding in my ve ha cal, I would probably give a slight grin with "Ha, that guys name was Dean Martin. How about that."

But because I was drunk driving, I think my grin would progress to a laugh or maybe a smile becase "Hey, that police officer's name was Dean Martin and he just booked me for drink driving ! Officer, can I please keep my ticket, I want to frame it."

Because it is more humourous don't you think ? I think irony has humour.

But yeh, it is either some hybrid or just a plain humourous coincidence.

Oh, tfa was crap !
 
2005-09-29 03:28:25 AM
I was referring to No man by the way.

The fact a Dean Martin arrested a Frank Sinatra impersonator does send it to the circus in a big way !
 
2005-09-29 03:43:04 AM
NathanO: Because it is more humourous don't you think ? I think irony has humour.

Irony has nothing to do with humour. Often, however, the best humour has ironic elements to it. The Morissette/Izzard example is pretty good. That joke wouldn't be so funny if Alanis hadn't actually written that stupid song.

Irony is a rather tricky thing to understand.
 
2005-09-29 03:51:33 AM
RockIsDead: But the fact that he stopped a Sinatra impersonator puts the scenario well into 'imaginary rat-pack' land.

Yes, it does, but it doesn't make the event ironic. It's just a coincidence.
 
2005-09-29 03:52:19 AM
ParadeCam is starting to see a pattern regarding the use of the 'Irony' tag and the content of the news post comments.
 
2005-09-29 04:10:08 AM
 
2005-09-29 04:12:08 AM
No man Irony is a rather tricky thing to understand.

True. Pomposity is far easier to grasp.
 
2005-09-29 04:19:03 AM
In case I offended anyone,

 
2005-09-29 04:20:26 AM
Insomnambulant: True. Pomposity is far easier to grasp.

I will freely admit that I am pompous. It's a great struggle not to be so. Can you help me?
 
2005-09-29 04:24:49 AM
I'm sensing a teeny-tiny bit of defensiveness on this thread, so I won't post anything more.

Thank you, and good night.
 
2005-09-29 04:30:46 AM
The first step is admitting it.

So,

Admit that it was ironic :-)

Or,

We can go 50/50 and say "It was a slight coincidence with a hint of irony."

or if you prefer 60/40 "It was a huge coincidence with a touch of irony."

or 40/60 "It was a small coincidence with alot of irony."

or "It was an ironic coincidence."

Or don't :-)

Yes I am bored at work today. Carry on !
 
2005-09-29 04:38:17 AM
No, you just don't know me very well. I truly posted that in case I offended anyone.

Sad ? Probably. That's the way I am.

Night.
 
2005-09-29 05:51:48 AM
mkreamer: How about: Policeman named Dean Martin arrests Frank Sinatra impersonator for drunk driving.


Fark off, Clippy! Stupid farking paperclip.
 
2005-09-29 06:33:45 AM
Meh, screw irony.

I prefer goldy and bronzy anyway.
 
2005-09-29 06:47:36 AM
GonzoNihilist


I fail to see the irony. What we have here is a coincidence.

May I see your Irony police I.D.?

Hmmm a man with no sense of humor appointing himself an arbiter of irony? Ironic, no?
 
2005-09-29 07:03:20 AM
Bright people frequently confuse Irony with Coincidence.

This is not their fault.

It is the fault of the media-mechanized anti-education, anti-book, pro-consumerism, pro-feeding-squirrels-in-the-park, pro-hypheners, baby-boomer semi-supported crusade to push enchantment and culture over history's familiar cliff with a Cartesian bulldozer.

/back to work
//hates squirrels
 
2005-09-29 08:29:56 AM
Normally I'm against the headless wonders that come in and flame and troll all day, such being the case with the "this isn't irony" crowd of flies that have swarmed this shiatpile. However, they really are right today. The definition of irony imposes there must be a contrast or incongruity between what was expected and what actually happened. I looked it up in hopes of shutting these jerks up, but ended up proving them right...

As for the trolls referred above, I feel horrible that I had to agree with you. Get a sense of humor, and go play context cop with your friends, at home, away from the computer, where you won't bother anyone except other trolls.
 
2005-09-29 08:33:03 AM
Err, if the Dean Martin arresting him was a drinker/drunk, then it would be ironic. Sharing a name doesn't cut it.

It's a funny situation.
 
2005-09-29 08:45:50 AM
George Carlin on irony:
Irony deals with opposites; it has nothing to do with coincidence.

If two baseball players from the same hometown, on different teams, receive the same uniform number, it is not ironic. It is a coincidence. If Barry Bonds attains lifetime statistics identical to his fathers it will not be ironic. It will be a coincidence.

Irony is "a state of affairs that is the reverse of what was to be expected; a result opposite to and in mockery of the appropriate result." For instance: a diabetic, on his way to buy insulin, is killed by a runaway truck. He is the victim of an accident. If the truck was delivering sugar, he is the victim of an oddly poetic coincidence. But if the truck was delivering insulin, ah! Then he is the victim of an irony.

If a Kurd, after surviving bloody battle with Saddam Husseins army and a long, difficult escape through the mountains, is crushed and killed by a parachute drop of humanitarian aid, that, my friend, is irony writ large.

Darryl Stingley, the pro football player, was paralyzed after a brutal hit by Jack Tatum. Now Darryl Stingleys son plays football, and if the son should become paralyzed while playing, it will not be ironic. It will be coincidental. If Darryl Stingleys son paralyzes someone else, that will be closer to ironic. If he paralyzes Jack Tatums son that will be precisely ironic.

* Source: "Brain Droppings"
 
2005-09-29 09:07:02 AM
Irony is getting the opposite of your goal. A traffic judge getting a speeding ticket is ironic. A drug counselor going into rehab is ironic. A financial planner declaring bankruptcy, etc. Now this headline is sort of ironic. A Frank Sinatra impersonator might want to team up with a Dean Martin, but to get arrested by him instead? Prolly as close to irony as yer gonna get here.
 
2005-09-29 09:50:39 AM
Did he give him the Dean Martin sobriety test?

Say the alphabet in any order you please and lie on the floor without holding on. And for goodness sake, give me a nip of that cocktail while you're doing it, you're boring me.
 
2005-09-29 09:55:49 AM
Abox & SteelHorseRider give perfect examples of what irony is (except for
If he paralyzes Jack Tatums son that will be precisely ironic. that is still coincidence. If Stingley was a crusader for football safety to prevent injuries and he ended up paralyzing Tatum's son then it would be ironic.) So why can't farkers get this. It is not that hard.
 
2005-09-29 10:26:40 AM
/ getting on high horse

SteelHorseRider
Those examples still aren't ironic. The Kurd getting crushed by humanitarian aid isn't ironic. As your definition says, it's the opposite of an intended result; you can usually connect the participants and events in a circle. What would have been ironic is if the Kurd was somehow involved in giving coordinates to where the aid needed to be dropped, and his being in the drop location caused him to be crushed. The circle is the Kurd giving coordinates, coordinates used by aid givers, aid package killing Kurd.

The diabetic getting killed by an insulin truck isn't ironic since the diabetic was not involved in the location or speed of the insulin truck where it killed him. It would have been ironic if the diabetic had called the insulin truck to deliver insulin to him in an emergency, then he decided to drive himself to the hospital anyway, then the speeding insulin truck killed him on his way to the hospital. His own action caused the accident. Again, you can draw a circle between participants and events.

The final example tries to draw the circle because some of the participants are related (father and son), but that's a false premise; their relationship has nothing to do with the event. Hang On Voltaire has it right.

Finally, the Sinatra/Martin thing is not ironic at all; just coincidence.

/ coming down now :)
 
2005-09-29 10:29:05 AM
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. They wake up in the morning and that's the best they're going to feel all day."

"It was a woman who drove me to drink. Come to think of it I never did hang around to thank her for that'"

"If you drink don't drive. Don't even putt."

"I once shook hands with Pat Boone and my whole right side sobered up."

"If people want to think I get drunk and stay out all night, let 'em. That's how I got here, you know."
 
2005-09-29 10:58:46 AM
Deano, knock off the Commie Bunk before I clock ya! Can't ya see I got a dame here?!
 
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