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(Yahoo) NewsFlash Tom Delay indicted. One corrupt congressional scumbag down, 534 to go   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 1505
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2005-09-28 03:17:18 PM  
Civil_War2_Time: What would YOU do if you had a million dollars?



I would go sit in a swanky hotel in paris and contemplate a trust fund of some sorts, and ya know, be a people watcher:P
 
2005-09-28 03:17:25 PM  
hannity is on the radio now, and as expected he is ripping into the prosecutor as a partisan democrat who has a history of these kinds of indictments.

/what a tool
// one of these days that pu$$y colmes is gonna have to slap him like the whiny little biatch that he is.
 
2005-09-28 03:18:18 PM  
FlashLV: EmrysX - Wow you don't get it do you?

What I get is that you aren't very good at this.

That article was written by someone at Reuters. CNN carried it, as did many other major news outlets.

Shaw has ties to the LA State Dem party, and they pay Allbaugh as a lobbyist. Pretty bad oversight. Unless you have evidence that the writer at Reuters intentionally left the Jim Bernhard link out...

So that is your proof that CNN has a liberal agenda? By that logic, Newsweek is a conservative outfit.

You gotta be able to do better than that. And yeah, I watched CNN almost exclusively for a LOONG time.
 
2005-09-28 03:18:33 PM  
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2005-09-28 03:18:38 PM  
It's not getting noticed, but they ran Bush out onto the White House lawn to stand next to a General and say that there might be more violence in Iraq. Classic Rove: we need to change the headlines.

If this keeps going, Bush will announce his next pick for the supreme court tomorrow to change the subject.

You heard it here first!
 
2005-09-28 03:18:39 PM  
mushpuppy: When he's convicted can we finally overturn their "mandate"?

Naw, their mandate doesn't like to turn over. He's strictly a top.

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2005-09-28 03:20:37 PM  
redneckbastard: Wake the fark up, dumbass.

redneckbastard, if Delay's goose isn't cooked, then why doesn't anyone support him? Everyone from Bush to O'Reilly has jumped ship. Doesn't that mean anything to you?
 
2005-09-28 03:20:46 PM  
Liberals are funny.

They're celebrating like the terrorist monkeys in Iraq after they make a bomb explode. Posting on Fark for liberals is akin to these monkeys shooting off AK rounds into the air, not realizing that the rounds do come back to the ground.

It's funny because they feel oppressed. I guess after losing more seats in the Senate and the House after the last election, I would too. And it cracks me up that no matter how poorly you guys think Bush did, your best candidate still couldn't beat him.

You guys crack me up.



Cry more n00bs.
 
2005-09-28 03:20:52 PM  
Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle was blown out of the water with his trumped up case agaisnt Kay Bailey Hutchinson and he will lose this one too.

So you Dumbocrats can go on backslapping each other all damn day if you like, because come Nov 2006 your going to get your ass handed to you again.

Thats why you farktards keep on losing - you're just fantasists who would rather engage in wet dreams than face reality.

DeLay will beat this one as the case is political payback for the redistricting and that is as trasparent as glass.
 
2005-09-28 03:21:02 PM  
rocker5969:

hannity is on the radio now, and as expected he is ripping into the prosecutor as a partisan democrat who has a history of these kinds of indictments.



He is such mammas boy.
 
2005-09-28 03:21:10 PM  
smeegle

I was answering that one for you. You'd do Melissa (I guess in Paris while people watched y'all) and send Delay into the cell at the same time. C'mon, let my mind imagine things, if just for a while...
 
2005-09-28 03:21:20 PM  
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I should start registering a new account, shouldn't I?
/banned
 
2005-09-28 03:21:35 PM  
redneckBastard

Do you read and understand your own posts?
It says it is NO defense if one or more of the coconspirators is not criminally responsible for the object offense.

Translation to retardese:
It doesn't matter, he conspired, that is what he is indicted for (AKA charged with).
Now go to your room and think about what you have done.
 
2005-09-28 03:21:43 PM  
KazamaSmokers: WTF? That's not what happened. Are we re-writing history for Aided now?

*sigh* Bush Sr. sent them in. The role was going to be just providing supply to the starving masses. When the troops got there, the warlords starting seizing the supplies and food. Bush Sr. then sent more troops to aid the effort and make sure that the food was distributed to the people in need.

After Clinton took office, the mission was much the same, however, the troops were being used as peacekeepers in the cities and given orders of engagement that essentially tied their hands. When the pentagon asked that the rules of engagement be changed so they could shoot back at agressors or given armor and weapons to actually accomplish their mission, they were told no and to keep a low profile.

That decision resulted in american deaths. I didn't agree with Bush sending in the military at the time, but once there, they needed to be supported, not left to hand out to dry.

But putting Somalia aside, the Clinton administration and his cronys did plenty of other things that resulted in deaths. They lobbed cruise missiles into afghanistan, they bombed an asprin factory... My only point in bringing it up at all is to refute the belief that Republicans get people killed and Democrats don't.

zookeeper: that gets my AWW SNAP!!! of the day

Yeah. I'm embarrased that I didn't remember it correctly. He was correct to point out where I was wrong since it was germaine to the point I was making.
 
2005-09-28 03:22:06 PM  
redneckbastard: SO WHERE IS THE INDICTMENT FOR THE OBJECT OFFENSE?

He's not being charged with the object offense, he's being charged with conspiring with others to commit an offense.

The others James Ellis and John Colyandro are charged with violating sections 253.003, 253.04 & 253.104 of the Texas Election code, and Delay is charged with conspiring with them to commit these offenses.

Here's a PDF of the indictment.

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/images/09/28/delay.indictment.pdf

Included in the indictment is a copy of the incriminating check signed by alleged conspirator Colyandro.

Do you get it now, or do you need more pictures?
 
2005-09-28 03:22:14 PM  
Damn, I love Jack Cafferty.

"You know, last week at this time there was an exchange here on our show.

{tape of discussion about cutting pork funds from the transportation bill to divert them to hurricane relief and recovery:

Blitzer: Senator Delay said that there's no fat to be cut from the bill.
Cafferty: Has he been indicted yet?

/end tape}

It was an offhand remark. Got some laughs here, received a lot of mail, and many were very critical of the remark.

Regardless, that's a piece of tape that I think I'll hang on to."
 
2005-09-28 03:22:15 PM  
Sloth_DC:

I wasn't calling you a Bush-bot. Whil you refute many of those statements as they pertain to you personally, there are many, many people like that in lots of Fark political threads.
 
2005-09-28 03:22:18 PM  
redneckbastard: SO WHY DID HE NOT GET CHARGED WITH THAT OBJECTIVE OFFENSE?

The Prosecutor couldn't prove anything beyond complicity in a conspiracy? Just a wild farking guess.

I wish they'd bring the RICO hammer down on this guy, he certainly seems to fit the bill.
 
2005-09-28 03:22:26 PM  
SausageKingofLA: Cry more n00bs.

I don't think the noise you hear is crying.
 
2005-09-28 03:22:26 PM  
UncleBuck4U:

He had previously served as Campaign Manager for President Bush's first run for Texas governor.

Not to mention that he allegedly cleansed the Texas Air National Guard records for Bush.
 
2005-09-28 03:22:36 PM  
Rodrigo Hernandez

Kentucky got owned?

ok
 
2005-09-28 03:22:44 PM  
redneckbastard:

DeLay will beat this one as the case is political payback for the redistricting and that is as trasparent as glass.

Dream on- Delay is a farkin douche bag and hopefully he and all the other POS will get what's coming to them.
 
2005-09-28 03:23:12 PM  
By whom?
 
2005-09-28 03:23:23 PM  
SausageKingofLA

Indicting a suspected criminal is akin to blowing up civilians and US soldiers in Iraq?

If you say so!
 
2005-09-28 03:29:29 PM  
redneckbastard: Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle was blown out of the water with his trumped up case agaisnt Kay Bailey Hutchinson and he will lose this one too.

So you Dumbocrats can go on backslapping each other all damn day if you like, because come Nov 2006 your going to get your ass handed to you again.

Thats why you farktards keep on losing - you're just fantasists who would rather engage in wet dreams than face reality.

DeLay will beat this one as the case is political payback for the redistricting and that is as trasparent as glass.



Ronnie Earle has prosecuted 12 high ranking Democrats and 4 Republicans, with such a record it's pretty hard to make the "it's purely political" argument stick.

I've met Earle on three occasions, and while I think he's a complete arsehole, I still believe he's an honest man, and believe would not purposely use the law to attack anyone for politics.
 
2005-09-28 03:30:08 PM  
sofballa
May not like the guy, but he still redistricted Texas, effectively giving the Republicans 6 more seats in the house.

True.

So now who got owned (or pwned, or whatever you nerds call it)?

The American public, who's representative process was intentionally manipulated by jerrymanderers.

Of course, you're too blinded by your partisan loyalty to realize that. For you, its just another touchdown scored by your favorite team.

Yet another person who would cut off their own nose to spite their face. Sigh. When will you stop allowing your all-too-easily manipulated anger and insecurity to be used against you, and worse, against your nation?
 
2005-09-28 03:30:10 PM  
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VanDeLay?

-IR
 
2005-09-28 03:30:24 PM  
DeLay will beat this one as the case is political payback for the redistricting and that is as trasparent as glass.

Good thing the redistricting was on the up and up, isn't it?

/sarcasm
 
2005-09-28 03:30:42 PM  
And in the future, you might want to use someone not so blatently partisian when trying to prove your points in the future.

In case you were wondering, any chance that you might appear objective, non-partisian, or independent thinking is officially gone.
 
2005-09-28 03:30:47 PM  
Hmmmm, Drew, you hiring sysadmins? Call me, buddy.
 
2005-09-28 03:31:43 PM  
Haha, my local Republican apologist on talk radio (Todd Schnitt for Florida farkers) is going crazy attacking the prosecutor.

Scary how quickly they circle the wagons.

And without Rush's leadership, no less.
 
2005-09-28 03:31:56 PM  
"Uh, he's not been convicted yet, just indicted."

and clinton didnt have sex with THAT woman
bwahahahahahah

KILL THEM ALL, let Dog sort it out
 
2005-09-28 03:32:42 PM  
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2005-09-28 03:32:45 PM  
scooby111
I think we probably should have left sooner too and Clinton probably could have done a better job even with the disaster he inherited. I think Somalia was a Bush Sr. project and we can disagree on that.

Bosnia was a Clinton project and it went well because he put capable people in charge like Gen. Wesley Clark (he was my pick in '04).

I am interested in something else you wrote:
They lobbed cruise missiles into afghanistan, they bombed an aspirin factory...

I'll admit that the aspirin factory was bad but attacking an Al Qaeda training camp is a Good Thing(tm). Ignoring international terror is a bad thing.
 
2005-09-28 03:32:47 PM  
InmanRoshi: LOL ... Fox News already has put up the DeLay's talking points verbatim.

You missed the other talking points...

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2005-09-28 03:32:53 PM  
Rtikuleight I don't speak skank

How very grown up of you.
 
2005-09-28 03:32:57 PM  
Let's see we've got Frist in trouble and now Delay.
A tarnished FEMA, and rock bottom approval ratings for the Bushmiester.

It doesn't get any better.

Crash and burn baby, crash and burn.
 
xia
2005-09-28 03:33:14 PM  
vote out the incumbents

Simple solution really. All new Congress, every election. Let them sit, they stagnate and have time to form dangerous bonds and associations. Recycle them every term and problem solves itself.
 
2005-09-28 03:33:27 PM  
EmrysX: And in the future, you might want to use someone not so blatently partisian when trying to prove your points in the future.

That post was for Flash.
 
2005-09-28 03:34:54 PM  
EmrysX - I gave you a proof, now you want more proof. You're being a tool, it doesn't matter anymore.
 
2005-09-28 03:35:02 PM  
Remind me again how many pardons Clinton issued in his last hours of office?

For anyone interested, the following page lists the number of pardons each president has granted:

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/pardonspres1.htm

Clinton Ranks 20th, behind (in no particular order) Nixon, Eisenhower, LBJ, and FDR.
 
2005-09-28 03:35:49 PM  
And the talking points have hit the airwaves:

"ham sandwich"
"prosecutorial persecution from a Democrat"
etc.
etc.

Since none of you seem to be able to think for yourselves, I need money. Send me money. Lots and lots of money.

Email is in profile. Thank you. :D
 
2005-09-28 03:36:45 PM  
want to BET he does NOT delay the trial?
needs that BUSH presidential PARDON if he loses
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2005-09-28 03:36:45 PM  
Sloth_DC
Huh? That makes no sense. I mean, you could maybe blame him for not killing UBL when he had the chance, but blaming him for 9/11? Tinfoil territory.

Could you really blame him for not striking at Osama harder than he did? After the crap he took in the Sudan? After "Wagging the Dog"? After Monica? I don't think a reasonable person could blame him for feeling that the American public wasn't behind his military efforts.

No, but the "Clinton walked despite being flagrantly guilty of perjury and objstruction" argument actually has merit.

So you're not one of those "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" people we've seen so much of in this thread?

Really tasteless novelty condoms from China?

I'd blame the Chinese for that...besides, have you seen what they do to your Coke over there?

Umm, what? Why would we care?

Did you just ask why a citizen should care about the reasons for his nation being at war?

Well, they arrested a few Al-Qaeda members. Those count as ties, right?

That's a big negative, good buddy.

No, but I have one that says, "I Support Whatever's Trendy".

That doesn't make you a BushBot. That makes you awesome. Unless its true.

People actually claim this? I mean, sure he received favoritism. I didn't think anyone above a single-digit IQ disputed that.

They don't, but you just excluded a majority of his core constituency right there.

Some of them actually had some merit.

Uhhh.

Uh, why *wouldn't* you hold the local government accountable?

You would, but you wouldn't blame them for the lack of coordination or timely federal assistance.
 
2005-09-28 03:37:00 PM  
Redneck
1. Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States.
2. A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.

Bastard
1. A child born out of wedlock.
2. Something that is of irregular, inferior, or dubious origin.
3. Slang A person, especially one who is held to be mean or disagreeable.
adj.
1. Born of unwed parents; illegitimate.
2. Not genuine; spurious: a bastard style of architecture.
3. Resembling a known kind or species but not truly such.

There's not a more fitting moniker on fark.
 
2005-09-28 03:37:02 PM  
President Bush is suffering from record low popularity, dragged down by anxiety about the Iraq war, anger about gasoline prices, and complaints about the government response to Hurricane Katrina. At the same time, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee faces an initial inquiry from the Securities and Exchange Commission about his sale of stock in a family corporation shortly before it revealed disappointing earnings and lost value.

And conservatives are threatening rebellion against Bush and Congressional leaders over their open-checkbook response to the hurricane. Even before DeLay was forced out of House hierarchy, conservative talk show host Laura Ingraham complained this week the party suffered a leadership ``vacuum."
source (pops)

Things look good for the Republicans in the midterms next year.
 
2005-09-28 03:37:19 PM  
milk_plus:

I'll admit that the aspirin factory was bad but attacking an Al Qaeda training camp is a Good Thing(tm). Ignoring international terror is a bad thing.

Err no that wasn't waht I was trying to say. Attacking an Al Qaeda training camp is a good thing. I disagree that lobbing cruise missiles at it from the ocean in an effective way of attacking it is all. Cruise missiles aren't terribly accurate and many people died.

I was using the example to support the original argument that Clinton (and his cronies) also make decisions that result in deaths.
 
2005-09-28 03:37:30 PM  
FlashLV: I gave you a proof, now you want more proof.

Your proof was bogus. In case you weren't aware, that sad attempt aside, in order to provide convincing evidence that a news organization has a partisian agenda, you are going to have to provide evidence of a pattern of behavior to support that charge.

If you really think your regurgitated article from Michelle Malkin about an article written by Reuters and carried by a number of news organizations supports that charge, then you are a sad little partisian hack.
 
2005-09-28 03:37:36 PM  
Ummmm. Melissa distraction.
 
2005-09-28 03:37:42 PM  
The American public, who's representative process was intentionally manipulated by jerrymanderers.

Not to mention Delay's own party - because this tactic (redistricting mid-way between censuses for short-term political gain) is now fair game for the next time the other guys are in power.

The problem with this crop of Republicans is that their political hard-ball is so short-sighted. There's a reason unspoken truces existed between the parties on things like redistricting and the Senatorial right to fillibuster. Because when you take it away from the other guy, you take it away from yourself.
 
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