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2005-09-28 04:17:23 PM  
Burn in hell cocksucker, haha being a dick on the internets is good fun.
 
2005-09-28 04:17:40 PM  
2005-09-28 01:09:35 PM Mercutio74

I offer some advice to tried and true republicans...

Now is your chance, while the party is pre-occupied with this guy, you can take over once again. Transform from the current warlike, don't tax but do spend, ideologically repressive, economically inept party you have become, back into the party of Eisenhower.

Become fiscally conservative (that means, if you don't tax, don't spend wildly)
Become the party of the middle class
Become staunch supporters of individual rights and freedoms
Become concerned with the welfare of your country and the image it presents to the world

All these traits could be yours once more. All you have to do is clean house of all these neo-con douche bags. I for one wasn't a big fan of the party of Regan or Poppa Bush, but at least they had a philosophy that people could understand when you looked at it logically. The current administration has seemingly chosen to go about ruling the US choosing the most dangerous and foolish methods they possibly could have under democratic rules.

Please, for the love of god, all you REAL conservatives... come forward and exert control over your party.


I'll gladly coexist happily with a real conservative ANY DAY. I agree with you 100% Mercutio....

//don't let Tybalt bait you this time.....

 
2005-09-28 04:17:58 PM  
FlashLV
Do you not know that Chris Hannity is a Republican?

Oh no, there's another one?
 
cot
2005-09-28 04:18:06 PM  
FlashLV: cot How are they "overtly lying"?

Every time they claim to be fair and balanced?
 
2005-09-28 04:18:41 PM  
I'd just like to say that Delay has Never been found guilty of violating any law and that Democrats and their outside groups are targeting him.
 
2005-09-28 04:19:28 PM  
seventypercent: "Objectivity is bias"

rbuzby: Good point.

*Golf Clap*

Thank God, I thought common sense and intellect were dead.
Seems however they just got their collective ass kicked by Gorilla boy and Mr. Dumpass.

Speaking of which.
You guys best start running.

:P
 
2005-09-28 04:19:33 PM  
Thanks Moltov and kliq... I 'borrowed' those gifs from some other thread. Props to their creators, fo'shizzle.
 
2005-09-28 04:19:35 PM  
jayday:

Everyone that is putting the pwn3d crap up, and is celebrating is an idiot, and should have their brain replaced by a coconut.

This is another dark day for democracy. People should be upset that this asswipe was able to get away with it in the first place.


Perhaps they're glad that something is being done about it?
 
2005-09-28 04:19:40 PM  
Deucednuisance - "It is not necessary for there to be an indictment for the object offense.
You even quoted the part of the statute that states this to be so."

I know what I quoted, lol.

I know that they *can* indict for conspiracy without indicting for the object offense, but it is a strong indicator of a very weak case, a bullshiat case.

I am not arguing that it cannot possibly be done, heheh, I even quoted earlier that a good prosecutor can indict a hamsandwich. It is remarkably easy to get indictments.

But even so as easy as it is, where is the object offense? Where?

This is a partisan bullshiat case and stinks from here to eternity.

That is my point.


Deucednuisance - "Tell you what, if you know anyone studying for the Multistate Bar Exam, (odds, anyone?) borrow their Criminal Law study guide, and look up Conspiracy. You'll see that all that is necessary is Agreement and Overt Act."

And what was the OVert Act?

Giving the money to the RNC? Directing to what Texas state rep campaigns to distribute to?

The corporate donations were rolled into other donations at the DeLay PAC, then rolled up into the RNC funds that also included noncorporate donations and then distributed from them.

The crime alleged, if any of the Dumbocrats ever get the nerve to actual state it, is that some of this money from the RNC went to Texas state reps running for office in violation of state law, despite it being three levels removed and rolled in with all those other noncorporate funds.

Earle has a very weak case on any object offense and conspiracy is the only thing he has and that is weak as whin-pudding without an object offense indictment to go along with the conspiracy charge.

DeLay has only one thing to waorry about; getting backstabbed by other Republicans and thrown overboard because that party has so many out and out pussies running it.

I guess being corporate bootlicks can do that to a man.
 
2005-09-28 04:20:46 PM  
Is the circle-jerk over yet?

 
2005-09-28 04:20:50 PM  
seventypercent:

During one of the commerical breaks, there was an advertisement for the Weekly Standard, a prominent right-wing news magazine. The announcer said (I'm paraphrasing, but this is close to word-for-word): "And it goes without saying that the Weekly Standard is solidly conservative -- none of the bias you'll find in other publications!"
 
2005-09-28 04:22:21 PM  
Hello_Kthullu - I was an "anyone but Bush" guy, but not "anyone but Republican." Although I'm a liberal I would vote for a suitable Republican if s/he was up against the likes of Kerry again.

/giant dusche vs. turd sandwich
 
2005-09-28 04:22:57 PM  
Kangaroo_Ralph: Is the circle-jerk over yet?


You are going to need a bigger boat - Bucket.
 
2005-09-28 04:23:26 PM  
robsul82

Come ON, Farkers. We've got a catchy name like "Godwin's Law" for "first one to use Hitler loses," we've GOT to figure out a nice name for "b-b-but Clintonnnnn..."

We have a name for it "Thread Jack". If the topic get's too tough for you to handle, change the subject, and bring up ancient history.

After reading this article, could also say "threads been hdhale'd".. Deserved some extra points for laying the trap for a Waco tirad but no one took the "Janet Reno" bait

/Long time lurker, first time poster.
 
2005-09-28 04:23:32 PM  
Tom Delay gone, great.

Let know when they get Karl Rove, Chimpy, and Ken Lay.

/pay no attention to the man behind the oh forget it.
 
2005-09-28 04:24:57 PM  
redneckbastard: SO WHY DID HE NOT GET CHARGED WITH THAT OBJECTIVE OFFENSE?


Here's how it works: the next time Cletus calls up your mom to order some meth, and she happens to be out servicing the local Shriner convention, and you take the call for her-- you get charged with conspiracy, even though your mom, knowing you as she does, didn't trust you to handle any actual dope. You still go to jail, even if you thought Cletus was actually ordering something else.
 
2005-09-28 04:25:48 PM  
Zookeeper - "I rehash my BS call on this being a politically motivated indictment based on the prosecutions of Ronnie (Dobbs) Earle"

Zookeeper, the twats are not listening - they have gone into lemming-frenzy mode and they actually think that this will help them in 2006.

It wont as it shows the public what asswipes they are, like the Wellstone funeral did.

These dumbocrats just never learn, but let them have their crowing - they havent had much to crow about lately except for every casualty we get overseas.
 
2005-09-28 04:25:53 PM  
Sloth_DC: It opens the door for foreign powers to claim they should intervene in domestic American politics.

that door is already wide open.

is this another one of those things where i should view the topic thru a lense of 'how it should be' rather than 'how it is'?
 
2005-09-28 04:26:46 PM  
seventypercent:

During one of the commerical breaks, there was an advertisement for the Weekly Standard, a prominent right-wing news magazine. The announcer said (I'm paraphrasing, but this is close to word-for-word): "And it goes without saying that the Weekly Standard is solidly conservative -- none of the bias you'll find in other publications!"

 
2005-09-28 04:26:48 PM  
Do-Do-Do-Doot Doot-Doot Doot-Doot PRISION TIME!!

oh-oh oh-oh oh-oh

Pull 'em Down, NOw! (your pants)

Do-Do-Do-Doot....etc


/burn, burn in hell you sickening bastard!
//"Power...its a helluva drug"
 
2005-09-28 04:28:04 PM  
knobmaker:

I don't understand this idea. What is the practical alternative to throwing the current bums out? If you don't take the power away from those who abuse it, what prevents them from assuming that you don't mind the abuse? You have to do something to hurt those who screw up the country, even if doing so means other screwups get their chance to do the same. Otherwise there is no deterrence against even more outrageous corruption. If we come down on the Republicans for their screwups, at least we've demonstrated that there's a limit to how much corruption the electorate will tolerate. That has more value than saying, "What difference does it make?" Besides, if you really think it makes no difference, why not let the Dems have a chance to screw up too?

There is no practical alternative. We need to throw out corrupt individuals whenever we find them with alacrity. The comment you posted was part of my attempt to refute someone else's belief that Democrat decisions don't cost lives.

Abuse of power is always wrong and should be punished. We need to hold all politicians accountable for their actions... if they are found guilty that is.

I'm not a republican, I vote for the person that will champion the causes that I feel strongest about. Bush used to be that person (over Gore) but he ceased to be one I got to know him and his policies better. The Democrats need to come up with a plan that is better than the Republicans and they need to come up with a candidate that is a little closer to the center than Kerry before they can hope to win popular support.
 
2005-09-28 04:28:30 PM  
The best thing he could do for the Republican Party at this point is have an Egg McMagnum for breakfast tomorrow. The case dies with him and the Replublicans cash in on sympathy, while blaming his death on mean spirited Democrats.

Apparently, 12 to 4 is not enough of a ration for Hannity. All he can talk about is Hutchinson. 16 to 0 wouldn't be enough for these retards.
 
2005-09-28 04:28:30 PM  
FlashLV:

Do you not know Coulter is a Republican?

Actually she's a Conservative.

It's a wonder how YOU are a Republican being that your parents were clearly using serious drug-taking hippies during your conception. Are you like like Flanders, rebelling against your hippe parents?
 
2005-09-28 04:28:44 PM  
redneckbastard: I know that they *can* indict for conspiracy without indicting for the object offense, but it is a strong indicator of a very weak case, a bullshiat case.


Interesting notion. False, but, whatever, you know?

Idict, hell. They can convict without it.

And what was the OVert Act?

I refer you to the indictment.

If proved, the allegations contained therein constitute a complete crime.

Sorry that it's not complete enough for you, though.

Rule of law! Rule of law!
 
2005-09-28 04:29:16 PM  
Bhopper Since CNN is biased, when Foxnews says they are "fair and Balanced" means they are balancing out the "unfair and unbalanced" media that was there before them.

Not lying at all.

Plus are Budweiser and Miller lying when they say their beer is "Great tasting or less filling"?

It's nothing more than their slogan.
 
2005-09-28 04:29:20 PM  
Hey, no way I'm reading this entire thread. Can someone just fill me in on what the pathetic apologists for Delay are saying?
 
2005-09-28 04:30:30 PM  
...and more links to quotes.

link
 
2005-09-28 04:30:33 PM  
Separated at birth?

   
 
2005-09-28 04:30:58 PM  
hdhale says:
"No, sounds like you pretty much go with whatever floats your canoe at the moment. If you truly want to think about the "larger picture", Kerry would have been a disaster as a President, saddled with a Republican Congress that would have bitterly opposed anything resembling an agenda he tried to implement. Probably the only think he'd pull off would be pulling us out of Iraq too fast, and leaving an even bigger shiat pile for the next President to clean up."

Yeah, because I don't agree with you I am voting based on a a momentary whim?? Again, there is that ASSumption at work.
I vote based on past performance, ideals and how they will benefit/impact my family and my life and the lives of others.

He also said:

"No, if Mr. Bush doesn't work out in the end, the damage will be minimal--whatever the alarmists say--and the country will be better off for the seeing of policy to a conclusion abroad."

Bush has us 250 BILLION tax dollars into the Iraq Debacle. How that better off, I don't know. So far, I don't see ANY conclusion anywhere near visible on the horizon. In fact, now that the insurgency has taken root, we are seeing more attacks and deaths than in the whole of the WAR that Bush claimed we accomplished. Add to that almost 2000 dead americans, essentially weakenning the hunt for the REAL threat in Afghanastan/Pakistan. Oh, and lets not forget how his Weeners to 9-11 wasn't "Kill the bastards" but instead "We'd better get Osama's family outta the country before they get caught up in their kins mess"



How you see his results as minimal damage is beyond me.

I think Kerry was a shallow, silver spooned yankee but he didn't have a stick up his ass for war with Iraq just cus they "Tried to kill my daddy". (Okay, maybe that was over the top but so are your assumptions)

Point is, just because I don't agree with your politics doesn't mean I am any less informed or intelligent enough to cast a smart vote.
 
2005-09-28 04:31:37 PM  
Mmm...Mmm...good...This news is simply SCANDAL-ICIOUS!
 
2005-09-28 04:31:41 PM  
knobmaker - "Here's how it works: the next time Cletus calls up your mom to order some meth, and she happens to be out servicing the local Shriner convention, and you take the call for her-- you get charged with conspiracy, even though your mom, knowing you as she does, didn't trust you to handle any actual dope. You still go to jail, even if you thought Cletus was actually ordering something else."

But in this case DeLay inst just a messenger boy; he is the guy running the show at his own PAC. And since the RNC was involved as well, when can we expect Earle to indict any of them? Answer - never, because he knows that they would rip him a new asshole.

If DeLAy was analogous to the whore, then where is the indictment for the object offense, or do you really think that DeLay was not deciding who to give the money to, etc?

DeLay was incharge and there is no other indictment, as of yet since Eale might do it out of spite anyway, which, again, suggest the conspiracy charge is bullshiat.

Delay was the top guy at *his* own PAC - there should be an objective offense or else this is all nothing more than manure.
 
2005-09-28 04:31:46 PM  
FlashLV: Since CNN is biased, when Foxnews says they are "fair and Balanced" means they are balancing out the "unfair and unbalanced" media that was there before them.

that has got to be the single most idiotic line of reasoning i've seen within these confines.

that is saying something.
 
2005-09-28 04:32:44 PM  
scooby111

If you think Kerry was further from the center than Bush, you are wrong.

If you had promised to vote for him, Kerry would have stood in the center lane of the highway. Wishy washy, but certainly centrist, or just nothing really.

Rove's strategy was to play to the far right of the party to get Bush relected. They admittedly did not try to be "closer to the center".

The "center" of the country doesnt pander to the religious right.
 
2005-09-28 04:33:04 PM  


"But Ronnie Earle eats babies! Plus all those Democrats he went after? That was just a smokescreen! And everybody hates Hillary Clinton! It's a non-story!"



/sorry, all I have is Paint and MS Photo Editor
 
2005-09-28 04:33:07 PM  
FlashLV
Plus are Budweiser and Miller lying when they say their beer is "Great tasting or less filling"?

Ahh, but you see that news agencies should go after a higher standard of truth than what is put forth in beer commercials.
 
2005-09-28 04:33:40 PM  
Oh jeez redneck, you just don't read and comprehend very well do ya?
I said that its NOT politically motivated and offered evidence of Earles' prosecutions of politicians.

The evidence clearly shows that he has prosecuted more high ranking DEMOCRATS than republicans.

This means that it is hard to say that this is politically motivated because he has a history of being, dare i say it, fair and balanced, in prosecuting corrupt politicians.

In summary, I have read your posts and disagreed with you the whole time. Now you think you agree with me, but you are wrong.

I am glad that you are the caliber of person that votes for republicans, but sad that there are so many of you.

PWN3D
 
2005-09-28 04:33:40 PM  


/Immaculate_Misconception wins best reference evar award
 
2005-09-28 04:33:59 PM  
FlashLV: Since CNN is biased

Umm, I hate to kind of step back in here, but you have yet to provide compelling evidence, much less proof, that that statement is true.

Did someone tell you this is true, and you accepted it without researching it yourself?

I am trying to get actual work done, so from this point on I can't promise a reply. Apologies in advance.
 
2005-09-28 04:34:39 PM  
Deucednuisance - "Idict, hell. They can convict without it."

And what are the odds that they will convict for conspiracy without also proving some crime took place SOEMWHERE that involved DeLAy?
 
2005-09-28 04:34:42 PM  
StretchCannon

Hey, no way I'm reading this entire thread. Can someone just fill me in on what the pathetic apologists for Delay are saying?


Two arguments from the apologists:

1. Ronnie is a partisan hack, he's doing this only at the bidding of the Democratic party.
2. RedneckBastard seemed to be trying to push the point that Conspiracy in itself was not a crime that could be prosecuted. Upon getting PWND, he changed it to "Well, they're not LIKELY to get a conviction just on a conspiracy charge!"
3. Librulls are cheering because they hate America, just like they cheer every time a US soldier gets killed!!!

Did I miss anything?
 
2005-09-28 04:38:36 PM  
tryptik: Will it hurt Democrats? 'Cause Jesus told me not to give any money unless it hurts Deomocrats.


Send the money to me. I will hurt the Democrats even more.
 
2005-09-28 04:39:01 PM  
StretchCannon asks: Can someone just fill me in on what the pathetic apologists for Delay are saying?

Just turn on right wingnut talk radio. Whatever the hosts are saying is being repeated here by right wingnut Farkers.
 
2005-09-28 04:39:01 PM  
unhip1
I beg to differ sir. the douche bag IS the bag that is filled with whatever is used for douche. after douching, one expels the dirty liquid presumably into a toilet, not back into the bag that held the douche, tho im sure there's scat sites that beg to differ. You may call someone a bag of douche - you are calling them a bag of the liquid one uses to douche; assumedly after it has been used to cleanse one's bowels/uterus. now to call someone a douche bag is to call them the vessel that contains said douching material.

/now where were we?
 
2005-09-28 04:39:09 PM  
LincolnLogolas: Did I miss anything?

You forgot to put "Libruls hate America" in bold.

Also, you forgot cries of "The Democrats are just as bad/worse!"

Otherwise, I think you've got it covered. :)
 
2005-09-28 04:39:13 PM  
Nothing good to say, or feel inadequate as a person? Just ask Bhopper what to say, he's a master at it.
 
2005-09-28 04:39:29 PM  


good riddance, i hope delay ends up in a pound-me-in-teh-arse prison
 
2005-09-28 04:40:37 PM  
redneckbastard writes: And what are the odds that they will convict for conspiracy without also proving some crime took place SOEMWHERE that involved DeLAy?

CONSPIRACY is a crime that involves Delay, according to the indictment.
 
2005-09-28 04:40:42 PM  
LincolnLogolas:Did I miss anything?

4. b-b-b-but Clinnntonnn!
5. b-b-b-but Pelosi!! (gospel-thomas got pwnd on that one)
 
2005-09-28 04:41:23 PM  
If Mr. Earle is so interested in justice, why have no corporations been indicted?
 
2005-09-28 04:41:48 PM  
rbuzby: If you think Kerry was further from the center than Bush, you are wrong.

Bush is probably just about as far from the center as Kerry is in the opposite direction. Bush is no conservative. Sure, he spouts the pretty words, but he's fiscally very liberal and in favor of big government. That's not conservative.

If you had promised to vote for him, Kerry would have stood in the center lane of the highway. Wishy washy, but certainly centrist, or just nothing really.

And that's why he lost, IMHO. He didn't really stand for anything. I think people prefer someone who doesn't waver or change his position every soundbyte even if they don't necessarily agree with the stance.

Neither person was a great choice in 2004, but it's what we had. IMO, Bush won on the strength of his "make america strong" stance and the fact that we were doing something. Even if something was wrong and his words were bullshiat.
 
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