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(Detroit Free Press)   911: "He sounds very upset." Caller: "Yeah, I am a little upset... I think I am bleeding to death"   (freep.com ) divider line
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2005-09-25 09:49:04 PM  
Damn, that's class! I hope I can show as much aplomb and wit when some skanky snotnose slits my throat.
 
2005-09-25 11:04:14 PM  
That dude is hardcore.
 
2005-09-25 11:38:40 PM  
A neighbor, who said she was a friend of the family, would not comment on the incident.

Who gives a shiat? If the neighbor had made a comment, by all means, put it in the article, but this bit of non-information is useless.
 
2005-09-26 12:41:55 AM  
Wow, I hope he's going to be okay.
 
2005-09-26 01:10:21 AM  
Two medically trained officers applied a new treatment, an anticlotting powder with the trade name TraumaDEX, to the couple's throats, according to Grosse Ile Police Lt. Joseph Porcerell

mad props for the product placement..
 
2005-09-26 01:11:05 AM  
Kittridge, you've never seen me very upset!

[image from dirckhalstead.org too old to be available]
 
2005-09-26 01:11:28 AM  
Kinda like the guy that wa shot with a crossbow, removed the bolt from the chest and yelled "Is that all you got?".

Seriously, we need more people like this.
 
2005-09-26 01:14:20 AM  
Aern't new cell phones required to have GPS in them for 911 calls these days?
 
2005-09-26 01:15:37 AM  
And we need less people like their crazy knife wielding son.
 
2005-09-26 01:15:52 AM  
only in detroit
 
2005-09-26 01:16:38 AM  
CygnusDarius: Kinda like the guy that wa shot with a crossbow, removed the bolt from the chest and yelled "Is that all you got?".

Didn't that guy collapse and die right after that, though?
 
2005-09-26 01:17:51 AM  
The day they mandate for cellphones to have GPS built-in, Ill be upgrading my phone on the spot.
 
2005-09-26 01:17:59 AM  
911 operators have to ask you for your address/where you're at, even if you have GPS, for confirmation.
 
2005-09-26 01:18:05 AM  
"A neighbor, who said she was a friend of the family, would not comment on the incident."
Why the hell is this even in the article?
 
2005-09-26 01:19:40 AM  
At first, I was annoyed because the article sorely lacks details. But even with those, it would have amounted to sad and useless information. But because of the reporter's angle I learned that when slashed or otherwise in danger, reach for a land line. That extra minute of response time could save a life.
 
2005-09-26 01:19:46 AM  
THAT SON IS SO SCREWED...i hope justice is served properly


as for the dad. way to frickin go, dude. i hope if i'm ever in a position where normal people would just roll over and let themselves die, i can grasp for life like he did.
 
2005-09-26 01:19:57 AM  
This should highlight some of the problems with cell phones and 911...

Yes, all new cell phones are required to have GPS in them, however, not all 911 centers are able to afford the new technology to decode this information yet. In Michigan, at least, not all police departments are required to accept 911 calls. So you could be in the middle of a large city, call 911 and be transferred to the COUNTY dispatch of the county in which the tower receiving your cell signal is located. Often times the county sherrifs don't patrol in the city limits so they then have to transfer your call and may have to transfer it more than once until they get the right city/township.

Also, the GPS units in the phones update VERY slowly and are usually accurate (per the cell companies) to within 30 meters. So you end up with pretty inaccurate location information.

/let's implant microchips at birth
 
2005-09-26 01:23:15 AM  
a2pfunk: This should highlight some of the problems with cell phones and 911...

Interesting. Thanks for the details, I've fortunately never had to use my cell for a 911 call, so I didn't really know specifics on how it worked.
 
2005-09-26 01:24:44 AM  
Alright... it's time to stop giving these 911 jobs to morans.
 
2005-09-26 01:24:53 AM  
Lemmiwinks The Gerbil King
Didn't that guy collapse and die right after that, though?

Well, at least he went out with a bang.

/Actually twang would be more accurate
//Or whatever the crossbow's shot sounds like
 
2005-09-26 01:28:12 AM  
"By 10:13 p.m., Trenton police notified Grosse Ile cops that two people were dying in the 20000 block of Meridian. Three minutes later, officers were at the Plaisted home."

Sweet. Three minutes.

Cops and firefighters are my personal heros. They rock.

This morning, I got the sound of kids beating on the door of my shop, and yelling that one of the trailers was on fire.
(I do maintenance on 24 units in a trailer park).
Jammed my shoes on, dashed over there, and ascertained that the guy living there (was the trailer I used to live in) was outside and okay. Smoke detector woke him up. Grabbed the garden hose from 4W's yard, and started soaking. An inferno, by now. I realized that the trailer was a goner, and turned the water on his S10 low rider pickup, hoping to save that. I did.
I remember someone in the crowd yelling at me to get the hell away from the trailer, it could explode. My response was: "Fine, let it. My Sunday's already wrecked".
Then I heard the sirens, and when the trucks rolled in I got the hell outta the way.

I hate it when days go like that.
Nerves still all a-janglin.

Trailer's gone, truck's okay. Donated my espresso machine, my blender (never used em) and some clothes to the victim. Others chipped in cookware and dishes.

Dunno what happened. But he's alive and okay, and the rest can be dealt with and addressed.

Getting drunk, tired.
 
2005-09-26 01:29:17 AM  
http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3293782a11,00.html

Man getting shot in the chest with crossbow
 
2005-09-26 01:31:39 AM  
it's time to stop giving these 911 jobs to morans.

? Seems they figured it out quickly enough to reroute the call.
 
2005-09-26 01:35:56 AM  
On second thought, I don't have a land line. Guess it's TraumaDEX for me, too ...
 
2005-09-26 01:35:58 AM  
Flaggherty:

Sorry, I reread my post and saw how boring and 'who cares' it came across. Next time I will work on wit over info.

Hope you never have an emergency where you need to dial 911, but if you do, remember to give as much info as possible. As Alex Chilton pointed out, some of the people working on the other end are not the most highly educated as the job usually entails crappy hours, low pay, and minimal staffing.
 
2005-09-26 01:36:47 AM  
Flaggherty:

Yes, Cell phones in the US are mandated to have gps (after 9-11-01) but it was Detroit...

/you'd be screwed too if you had to rely on someone who thought GPS was the 'Brown Truck' guys..
 
2005-09-26 01:36:56 AM  
zeromus
"Hayden Keith McDougall, 19, unemployed, and Jared James Little, 20, a spray painter, of Swannanoa, deny the charge. "


Now these are some real winners, i'm sure.
 
2005-09-26 01:38:10 AM  
They didn't release the condition of the father =\

Hope he didn't die...although I guess that would put him on the same level as the crossbow guy.

I'd still like to shake his hand, though...
 
2005-09-26 01:41:12 AM  
jonasborg

Got their heads all figured out already, huh?
Good boy.
Because unemployed people and spray painters are the ones yer mama warned you about.

I am in awe.
 
2005-09-26 01:43:20 AM  
zeromus: http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3293782a11,00.html

Man getting shot in the chest with crossbow



After reading that I just keep imagining a muscle-bound aboriginal maori drunkard ala Once Were Warriors.
 
2005-09-26 01:46:36 AM  
evilodin88: "A neighbor, who said she was a friend of the family, would not comment on the incident."
Why the hell is this even in the article?


It's so the readers know the reporter at least tried to talk to someone close to the victim, and so it doesn't seem like the reporter only talked to the police officer.

/journalist
 
2005-09-26 01:48:55 AM  
"Yes, Cell phones in the US are mandated to have gps (after 9-11-01) but it was Detroit..."

PLease show me this law.


Phones do not use GPS. That requires a fairly expensive and bulky chipset...

Most companies are going with a variation of Uplink Time Difference of Arrival which uses a triangulation of wireless signals being sent fromy our phone to towers.

http://www.fcc.gov/911/enhanced/
 
2005-09-26 01:53:26 AM  
Two medically trained officers applied a new treatment, an anticlotting powder with the trade name TraumaDEX, to the couple's throats, according to Grosse Ile Police Lt. Joseph Porcerell

Fortunately for the couple, TraumaDEX actually promotes clotting.
 
2005-09-26 01:54:38 AM  
"When you call from a cell phone, we've got to get the address from you, it doesn't just pop up on the 911 screen," Porcerelli said. "He had trouble talking, and we had to get the address out of him where he was at."

No Shiat Sherlock, of course he had trouble talking, his bloody throat was cut
 
2005-09-26 01:57:10 AM  
midweststorms


Grosse Ile ain't Detroit, dude.

Just map it out.

Start address:
Detroit, MI
End address:
Grosse Ile, MI 48138
Distance: 27.1 mi (about 39 mins)
 
2005-09-26 01:58:13 AM  
That's an awesome story HowlingFrog.

/props to ya
 
2005-09-26 01:59:20 AM  
If you're calling 911 on a cell or VOIP, tell them your address before anything else. Just be prepared for that.
 
2005-09-26 01:59:56 AM  
Take a whiff of my pant leg baby:

I am glad that I was not the only person confused by this.
 
2005-09-26 02:02:46 AM  
jonasborg

Remember how hard it is to be unemployed in MI.

/Unemployed in MI
//Scraping by, I guess.
 
2005-09-26 02:05:16 AM  
Actually, TraumaDex is a clotting powder, not an anticlotting powder as said in the article. An anticlotting powder might have kept him from getting a heart attack, but he'd have bled out.

http://www.merginet.com/tools_technology/products/traumadex.cfm

Not safe for work unles you work in a trauma center.
 
2005-09-26 02:05:30 AM  
Reverb and All:

Woops-
"and a U.S. mandate requiring wireless companies to develop ways for emergency workers to find the physical location of people who dial 911 on a cell phone."

http://news.com.com/Big+boss+is+watching/2100-1036_3-5379953.html

/ 'recon 'develop' is tha key word..
/Worrying about the oil hitting...
 
2005-09-26 02:09:48 AM  
But some do have GPS, maybe not in your area..

/can you hear "Dueling Banjos" from your front porch?
 
2005-09-26 02:13:04 AM  
Smart Ass:

I have noticed that whenever I hit the option to refresh the GPS location on my Nextel, it quickly does so in 12 minutes or less...
 
2005-09-26 02:17:29 AM  
Hey Bro-
The 'Brown Truck" might be busy...

/I'd hate to rely on it.
/my Nokia has a "disclose location" option that I can't turn off, but can limit to 'emergency's" only-whatever that means
/Had Nextel for 6+ years in Atlanta, 'Builders 1'...
 
2005-09-26 02:17:37 AM  
I wish I were the neighbor of the 28 year old.
 
2005-09-26 02:19:58 AM  
Just because new cell phones have GPS, 58-year-old dads necessarly have them.

[image from img.photobucket.com too old to be available]
 
2005-09-26 02:21:01 AM  
58-year-old dads __ don't__ necessarly have them
 
2005-09-26 02:24:23 AM  
a2pfunk:

Sorry, I reread my post and saw how boring and 'who cares' it came across. Next time I will work on wit over info.

Oh, and I wasnt actually trying to say that your post was boring, if that's how it came across. Whatever, it's late and I'm tired.
 
2005-09-26 02:30:34 AM  
reverbblue
Phones do not use GPS. That requires a fairly expensive and bulky chipset...

Not true. Verizon, Sprint, and Nextel phones all have GPS built in. Cingular does not, but instead relies on triangulation to find about where the handset is in the case of E911. I guess it's good enough for the feds....
 
2005-09-26 02:32:34 AM  
Denise Plaisted was listed in serous condition Friday

That's what she gets for listening to satellite radio.
 
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