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(Scotsman)   Coffee healthier than fruits and vegetables, according to pale, quivering scientist   (thescotsman.scotsman.com ) divider line
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2005-08-28 08:52:58 PM  
Research brought to you by Maxwell House, good to the last heartbeat...
 
2005-08-28 09:18:54 PM  
There are about 126 chemicals in coffee (if I remember right) and SOME of them are good for you. SOME of them are known to cause cancer in the state of California (I don't know about the other states). And I'm sure SOME of them don't do a hell of a lot of anything.

Bottom line: If you like it, drink it.
 
2005-08-29 12:10:27 AM  
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2005-08-29 01:25:59 AM  
Oh yeah!
Bring on the coffee baby!
Thank you submitter for justifying my love.

/livin' in the NW, coffie hut every block
 
2005-08-29 01:27:01 AM  
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2005-08-29 01:27:37 AM  
Somewhat misleading -- it isn't that coffee is healthier or has more anitoxidants, it's just that coffee consumption is so much greater than that of fruit and vegetable consumption that one is more likely (on a typical shiatty diet) to get their antioxidants from coffee rather than other, better sources.

You'll get vitamin D from a Big Mac, too, doesn't mean it's the best place for it.
 
2005-08-29 01:28:01 AM  
i like coffee. it makes me awake more?
 
2005-08-29 01:29:40 AM  
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money well spent
 
2005-08-29 01:29:53 AM  
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2005-08-29 01:36:05 AM  
EE Kid: Research brought to you by Maxwell House, good to the last heartbeat...

I just saw this on the news a few minutes ago...I had said "This study brought to you by the good folks at Starbucks."
 
2005-08-29 01:38:05 AM  
Yeah, right. And they probably think coffee is better for your teeth than toothpaste, also.

/slash!
 
2005-08-29 01:43:29 AM  
Signs You've Been Drinking Too Much Coffee
# Juan Valdez named his donkey after you.
# You ski uphill.
# You get a speeding ticket and you're parked.
# You haven't blinked since the last lunar eclipse.
# You just completed another sweater and you don't know how to knit.
# You grind your coffee beans in your mouth.
# Your eyes stay open when you sneeze.
# You chew on other people's fingernails.
# All your kids are named "Joe".
# You don't sweat, you percolate.
# You walk twenty miles on your treadmill before you realize it's not plugged in.
# People get dizzy just watching you.
# Starbucks owns the mortgage to your house.
# You're so wired, you pick up AM radio.
# Your life's goal is to amount to a hill-of-beans.
# When someone asks, "How are you?" You reply, "Good to the last drop".
# You named your cats Cream and Sugar.
# You think being called a "drip" is a compliment.
# You help your dog chase its tail.
# Your first-aid kit contains two pints of coffee with an IV hookup.
 
2005-08-29 01:43:42 AM  
Maxwell House...Starbucks...it's a generation gap. Sad that the first thing the young'uns think of when you say "coffee" is that you should pay $4 per cup.
 
2005-08-29 01:51:32 AM  
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2005-08-29 01:51:56 AM  
Coffee doesn't have the anti-oxidants that green tea does but still... Extracts from plants are good for you, period. Way better then fried animal flesh. Outside of hemlock of course. I even will venture to say that mild stimulants are good for you. The idea of living a chemical free life is all about dogma. Mild amounts of alcohol are good for you. Mild amounts of stimulants such as caffeine are as well. Look up the correlations of alzheimer's and smoking. Guess what? Nicotine seems to be a great preventer of it. Of course no one is going to say you should smoke to prevent alzheimer's. But it actually seems like if you have alzherimer's running in the family maybe you should look at getting the patch.
 
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2005-08-29 01:52:32 AM  
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2005-08-29 01:58:58 AM  
Fark headline, and the article's as well, are both misleading. This quote sums up the true results of the study:
"He added: "Unfortunately, consumers are still not eating enough fruits and vegetables, which are better for you from an overall nutritional point of view.""

It seems that the findings just say that people consume more coffee than they do fruits and veggies.

I love how the article quotes a spokesman for the coffee industry with something that is direct contradiction to what the researcher is quoted as saying.

" But Prof Vinson urged moderation, recommending that people drink only one or two cups per day.
...
A spokesman for the British Coffee Association said: "This study reconfirms the fact that moderate coffee consumption of four to five cups a day not only is perfectly safe but may confer health benefits."
 
2005-08-29 02:01:46 AM  
The US findings probably reflect a similar trend in the UK, with 47 per cent of the population drinking about 70 million cups of coffee each day.

Well, it looks like I'm about 69,999,900 cups behind.
 
2005-08-29 02:05:12 AM  
Extracts from plants are good for you, period. Way better then fried animal flesh. Outside of hemlock of course.

Thats one of the most goofy generalizations Ive seen in 10 minutes!

Come hike with me sometime. I could name 20-30 plants on an average hike in the mountains that would kill you, if you ingested some extracts.

As for the anti-oxidants in coffee - there are loads of anti-oxidants in cheap multi-vitamins that you buy at the store - but if you eat them on an empty stomach, they dont get absorbed, and they go right through you. And the caffeine and other chemicals in coffee interfere with any anti-oxidants being stored.

So its a little like saying "Hey, prune-juice has a lot of calories" - yeah, it does, but believe me, they arent going to hang around in your gut long enough to matter.

Coffee is bad. I mean Yum, but its bad for you.

7 And, again, astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.

8 And again, tobacco is not for the abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.

9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man

11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with prudence and thanksgiving.

12 Yea, flesh also of beasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used sparingly;

13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used, only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine.

14 All grain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;

15 And these hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.

16 All grain is good for the food of man; as also the fruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground

17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, shall receive health in their navel and marrow to their bones;

19 And shall find wisdom and great treasures of knowledge, even hidden treasures;

20 And shall run and not be weary, and shall walk and not faint.


I suppose you can can mock me. But thats good advice :)
 
2005-08-29 02:05:27 AM  
First thing I thought of was this.
 
2005-08-29 02:08:29 AM  
krovvy: Maxwell House...Starbucks...it's a generation gap. Sad that the first thing the young'uns think of when you say "coffee" is that you should pay $4 per cup.

That's a poor comparison. Maxwell House doesn't have coffee shops everywhere you look. Starbucks is a kind of restaurant, while Maxwell House is simply coffee produced by Kraft Foods as one of their thousands of food products.

I am morally opposed to companies like Starbucks and Kraft Foods, which seem to take over our vocabulary, and tend to put mom-and-pop operations out of business as well.

That said, Starbucks makes darn good coffee. And you can buy a pound of almost any coffee you want, ground to your preference, at fairly reasonable prices.
 
2005-08-29 02:11:42 AM  
Yay! I am healthy!
 
2005-08-29 02:15:35 AM  
What the fark? Coffee isn't a vegtable?!

DAMN

/but...but..it...comes from a plant though...right..?
// I love my brown V8
 
2005-08-29 02:16:18 AM  
No man:
That said, Starbucks makes darn good coffee.

Oh man... What have you done? Fewer would die defending their positions on religion, but man, coffee? Yikes.
 
2005-08-29 02:32:28 AM  
So that is coffee, but what about coffee drinks? Specifically the guy who always comes to the coffee shop I work for who always asks for a "skinny and as wet as you can make 'er" cappuccino?
 
2005-08-29 02:37:51 AM  
Ah, yeah...right. Starbucks doesn't really make coffee. They are the modern version of the maltshop, serving chocolate-flavored beverages to the masses.
 
2005-08-29 02:47:42 AM  
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2005-08-29 02:49:50 AM  
I've lived in Seattle since '87, and I'll be on the "Starbucks' coffee was better before it was a megachain" side of the argument any time you care to ask. Personally, I'll just as soon go to the AM-PM another 1/2 block down and refill my Starbucks mug for 75 cents (But I do have a venti mocha about once a week - for the chocolate).

/Torrefazione Italia Rules all...
//But it's now owned (literally) by Starbucks =(
 
2005-08-29 03:07:01 AM  
equusdc: No man:
That said, Starbucks makes darn good coffee.

Oh man... What have you done? Fewer would die defending their positions on religion, but man, coffee? Yikes.


It's because, I think, Starbucks puts something addictive in their coffee. One always gets great service at a Starbucks shop, as well.

For the record, I don't drink flavored coffees, or flavored coffee drinks, nor multi-iced double mocha chocolate with strawberry laced whipped cream and sprinkles coffee, either.
 
2005-08-29 03:17:44 AM  
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Why yes, I'd love a cup

/just got up
//reading fark while the coffee brews
///Imagedump ate my .jpg
 
2005-08-29 03:29:55 AM  
For some reason, that headline made me laugh and laugh. Out loud. And laugh and laugh.

/Time for a refill
//3:26 AM: cream and sugar
 
2005-08-29 03:43:30 AM  
I've seen this before too. Usually the mutants who go out espousing that coffee is good for you are guys in their 60s with a shiny scalp, grey hair and a grey beard on their lower face, and sickly looking skin underneath their coke bottle glasses. They're hopped up on caffeine, of course they feel great. Until they don't get their fix..
/deep greens like vegetables and chlorella/spirulina/kelp are the only good antioxidants.
 
2005-08-29 03:48:36 AM  
Formerly, I hated coffee. Couldn't stand the taste at all.

Then, I started night-auditing [ and it helped that I met a chick who was thoroughly addicted to it ]. That rather changed my attitude.

/The best part of waking up is extra-strong, with a little cream and sugar to take the edge off. Switch to straight when I've woken up enough to handle it properly.
 
2005-08-29 03:59:58 AM  
SkArcher


I have that exact pack right next to me right now.

/ Couldn't type without it
// Not sure I'd want to
 
2005-08-29 04:18:57 AM  
"This study reconfirms the fact that moderate coffee consumption of four to five cups a day not only is perfectly safe but may confer health benefits."

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2005-08-29 04:30:21 AM  
roboteeruk

Yeah, I'm nearly out, going to nip to sainsburys to buy some more in a bit
 
2005-08-29 05:10:00 AM  
Study says coffee delivers more health benefits than fruit and veg

Awesome. I'm going on the all coffee diet. No vegetables or fruits or carbohydrates or meat, just coffee, so that I can get maximum "health benefits" delivered. That should work, right?
(what a stupid statement.)
 
2005-08-29 05:39:05 AM  
beer4breakfast ...Extracts from plants are good for you, period...

...Yeah, of course, 'cause you know that poison ivy stuff, it's just like aloe! Easy on the generalizations, they detract from your point.


As a coffee drinker, I'd say the advantages of Coffee are more mental than physical. Other than that my resting heart rate is uber-low (around 15-25 BPM, blood donation centers always wig when they take my vitals) all I'm really getting is cooked bean-water. Yeah it'll have a little nutrition to it, but really whats best is the mental effect of "aaah, my morning cup of coffee, sweet ambrosia from above"

Plus, anyone who drinks coffee regularly, doesn't stay in the "one or two cups a day" zone for long. Note: Starbucks, is not coffee. That's fruity-coffee and is subject to totaly different rules.
 
2005-08-29 05:39:53 AM  
ackack. Eaten by the tag-typo-demon. Why did I take off preview before?
 
2005-08-29 06:15:49 AM  
four to five cups is MODERATE?

man... I am such an average looser... I suppose if I switched out the half bottle of diet pepsi and the large 30oz mug of earl grey with coffee I might become an above average looser again?

Moderate is 2 to 3 cups a day, not sure what drug clinic this study was done in.
 
2005-08-29 07:43:16 AM  
AZsid: There are about 126 chemicals in coffee (if I remember right) and SOME of them are good for you. SOME of them are known to cause cancer in the state of California

Whew! Thank god I don't live in California.
 
2005-08-29 07:46:45 AM  
Repressed Librarian: So that is coffee, but what about coffee drinks? Specifically the guy who always comes to the coffee shop I work for who always asks for a "skinny and as wet as you can make 'er" cappuccino?

Are you sure he's not thinking of the cute barista?

("skinny" cappucino is made with low-fat milk right?)
 
2005-08-29 07:50:26 AM  
Well, I was going to stop at Shaw's today, but now I think I'll head for Dunkin' Donuts...
 
2005-08-29 08:11:28 AM  
It should be noted that this study was done in Scranton, PA. Sorry Scranton FK'ers, but Scranton is the armpit of PA. It's a crappy city with a ridiculous amount of corruption and bad education. Wouldn't trust a thing that comes out of it...
 
2005-08-29 09:19:39 AM  
EdgeRunner
YOU ARE WINNAR!!!
 
2005-08-29 09:41:02 AM  
No man:

That said, Starbucks makes darn good coffee.

Starbucks if fine if I want a coffee flavored drink.

Otherwise I grind my own beans and use a french press, try it sometime you'll never go back to burned coffee. I actually save money because I can't stand the burnt taste I get most everywhere else.
 
2005-08-29 09:59:05 AM  
Starbucks coffee is shiat. Not the shiat, mind you. Just shiat.
 
2005-08-29 10:06:36 AM  
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2005-08-29 10:17:30 AM  
I'll drink more coffee if I can have decaf. If I have too much caffeine my heart will explode, or I'll vibrate right off my chair...and not the good kind of vibrate either...
 
2005-08-29 10:33:00 AM  
Coffee makes me go. I'm going to live forever!
 
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