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2005-08-28 08:38:30 PM
I don't understand. Where is nudity and lapdacing in the Constitution? I'm all for both, but where did he find that barring them is outlined in the Constitution?

Nudity and lapdancing isn't. Free speech is. Symbolic speech is considered speech. You can't stifle messages (besides certain issues such as fighting words). Thus dancing to portray eroticism or any other message (even, "I'm a dirty slut" or "I'm a poor college student") is a form of speech.

Another exception is obscenity (not protected), but most of these statutes are fought on the grounds that not allowing alcohol or not allowing lapdances doesn't prevent the message itself.
 
2005-08-28 08:49:39 PM
No prob, gelos. Hey, let me know what ya find out, if ya remember. Thanks
 
2005-08-28 09:13:50 PM
2005-08-28 07:44:11 PM Farking Corksucker
I don't understand. Where is nudity and lapdacing in the Constitution?

IX Ammendment.

2005-08-28 08:10:48 PM KC Critic
These caps are specifically on the Pain and Suffering part, arent't they? There are also compensatory and punitive damages so the total amount can be greater than 300k. "Big business wants to fark you" seems to be one of the favorite arguments from the left, but here's an example of one of such cases:

Neurosurgery, spinal injury is a known risk. 1000 surgeries performed, one results in paralysis. $2.3mil awarded to a guy who was already wheelchair-bound. Insurance premiums expected to increase to 300k from 245k, while in another state with somewhat reformed tort law it would be 75-100. I'm not making this shiat up. Neurosurgeons run away, hospitals sued for lack of neurosurgeons. Your medical costs are increased.
 
2005-08-28 09:21:45 PM
tonesskin

You forgot the "interferes with ability of the government to do its job" exception. Burning draft cards, killing cops, and bombing federal buildings are not protected speech.

Another exception is that if restrictions are designed to "protect the public good." Usually this means protecting children. This is why the Supreme Court ruled child pornography unconstitutional. (Yes, that's an actual case.) Poisoning a town's water supply, flinging fecal matter at others like a monkey, and fist fighting are not protected forms of speech.
 
2005-08-28 09:22:28 PM
GIVE ME LAP DANCES OR GIVE ME DEATH!

But i'd much prefer the lap dances.
 
2005-08-28 09:25:08 PM
gelos

The police have always been able to enter your home at any time they have a reasonable suspicion that a crime is being (or has been) committed AND that evidence concerning that crime is within your house AND that the evidence is at risk. It's called a "exigent (sp?) situation" search. Other exceptions to the need for a warrant also exist (e.g. search for a missing child).

No idea what the cops are using- I just wanted to point out that warrants aren't always needed.
 
2005-08-28 09:39:32 PM
You forgot the "interferes with ability of the government to do its job" exception. Burning draft cards, killing cops, and bombing federal buildings are not protected speech.

Didn't forget, just didn't give an exhaustive list. Hate speech may or may not be unprotected depending on the purpose of it. The important thing is that while exceptions to free speech exist, "speech" can mean a variety of things including symbolically saying, "I'm a liberated little stripper named Shannon Scarvelli! Look at my boobies!"
 
M-G
2005-08-28 09:53:26 PM
TakeOff: thank god they didnt get the new smoking ban passed. They wanted to ban smoking in the CASINO! You can come lose your pension in missouri, but dont light up.

No, the final bill would have only required half of Harrah's to be non-smoking. The people who are stupid enough to blow their money on gambling and cigarettes simultaneously would still be allowed to, and keeping Harrah's money from being given to Ameristar across the river.

Seriously, this place has more religious zealots per square foot than any other place ive ever lived.

I suggest you try out Tulsa for a while. But it seems like religious are either increasing in numbers here, or just being more vocal.

domovoi: Aww, poor Matty-matt Blunt, clueless turd and GWB proxy, got his BS moralizin' law struck down like

Yeah, Blunt is an idiot. And while he's claiming to be working hard to prevent military facility closures in Missouri, he got those on the list in the first place by closing down the state's lobbying office. Apparently he thought all his Republican friends in Washington wouldn't betray him...

/Glad I live in StL
//Good strip clubs on Illinois side


And some trashy ones too....contact me if you need a limo for a trip over there though.
 
2005-08-28 10:17:29 PM
Expealidocious: Southwest Missouri State University becomes Missouri State University.

What am I going to do with all my SMS gear?!
 
2005-08-28 10:26:43 PM
I'm farking glad. I live near the assbag that spearheaded the law, Matt Bartle, and he is a total moron. He cited farking radical religious groups as evidence against strip clubs.
 
2005-08-28 10:54:12 PM
Anagrammer: The right to bare more than just arms?

We been waitin' hunnerds o' years fer this!

/obscure?
 
2005-08-28 11:03:21 PM
The bomb is at B: I never shoulda voted for him.
\only voted for him cause his name is Blunt
\\heh Blunt.
\\\heh diarrhea


I'm sure your fellow voters are tickled to death you have the power of the vote. I know I am And having just finished reading your bio, I'd suggest you go delete it before any of the other Farkers realize the kind of mentality we're dealing with here.
 
2005-08-28 11:09:36 PM
The bomb is at B
Not to mention you're in Missouri. I'm sorry, but there is no good pizza there. Through my travels, I've discovered that good...no great pizza can only be found in New York or Chicago.
Sorry.
 
2005-08-28 11:11:36 PM
HERO.
 
2005-08-28 11:19:04 PM
"Blunt believes in smaller government."

Apparently he doesn't.

So who here still thinks that the Republican Party is the party of smaller government?
 
2005-08-28 11:24:17 PM
domovoi -

right, cause PT'S has class act boobs. oh, no wait...i mean Diamond Caberet LOL.

/I live in STL
//At least I dont live in Kansas
 
2005-08-29 10:54:47 AM
Thank God, that was a retarded law that never should have been passed.

And anyone who thinks Republicans are for smaller government, or who voted for Matt Blunt, are idiots. I don't like where this country is going - I hope that the next slew of candidates (Presidents, or otherwise) actually intend on preserving rights and liberties (unlike the current Administration).
 
2005-08-29 11:44:13 AM
Nude dancing is as much 'artistic expression' as robbing a bank or performing a hit.

The customers arent paying their cash to admire art, they are there to get a rise and everyone knows this.

Its a disgrace that judges are using the Constitution like toilet paper to clear the way for this kind of bullshiat.

Yeah, when I do 85 down the interstate, thats just me using my right to free expression.

What a bunch of high grade fertilizer.
 
2005-08-29 12:52:57 PM

I was lonelier than Kunta Kinte at a Merle Haggard concert
That night I strolled on into Uncle Limpy's Hump Palace lookin' for love.
It had been a while.
In fact, three hundred and sixty-five had come and went
since that midnight run haulin' hog to Shakey Town on I-10.
I had picked up this hitchhiker that was sweatin' gallons
through a pair of Daisy Duke cut-offs and one of those Fruit Of The Loom tank-tops.
Well, that night I lost myself to ruby red lips,
milky white skin and baby blue eyes.
Name was Russell.

Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Well I find it's quite a thrill
When she grinds me against her will
Yes a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'

Well, faster than you can say, "shallow grave",
this pretty little thing come up to me and starts kneadin' my balls
like hard-boiled eggs in a tube sock.
Said her name was Bambi and I said, "Well that's a coincidence darlin',
'cause I was just thinkin' about skinnin' you like a deer."
Well she smiled, had about as much teeth as a Jack-O-Lantern,
and I went on to tell her how I would wear her face like a mask
as I do my little kooky dance.
And then she told me to shush.
I guess she could sense my desperation.
'Course, it's hard to hide a hard-on when you're dressed like Minnie Pearl.

Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Well I find it's quite a thrill
When she grinds me against her will
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'

So, Bambi's goin' on about how she can make all my fantasies come true.
So I says, "Even this one I have where Jesus Christ
is jackhammering Mickey Mouse in the doo-doo hole
with a lawn dart as Garth Brooks gives birth to something
resembling a cheddar cheese log with almonds on Santa Claus's tummy-tum?"
Well, ten beers, twenty minutes and thirty dollars later
I'm parkin' the beef bus in tuna town if you know what I mean.
Got to nail her back at her trailer.
Heh. That rhymes.
I have to admit it was even more of a turn-on
when I found out she was doin' me to buy baby formula.

Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Well I find it's quite a thrill
When she grinds me against her will
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'

Day or so had passed when I popped the clutch,
gave the tranny a spin and slid on into
The Stinky Pinky Gulp N' Guzzle Big Rig Snooze-A-Stop.
There I was browsin' through the latest issue of "Throb",
when I saw Bambi starin' at me from the back of a milk carton.
Well, my heart just dropped.
So, I decided to do what any good Christian would.
You can not imagine how difficult it is to hold a half gallon of moo juice
and polish the one-eyed gopher when your doin' seventy-five
in an eighteen-wheeler.
I never thought missing children could be so sexy.
Did I say that out loud?

Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Well I find it's quite a thrill
When she grinds me against her will
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'


/bloodhound gang pwnz.
 
2005-08-29 01:46:06 PM
Definately should have gotten a hero tag.
 
2005-08-30 12:12:02 AM
i know nobody's going to read this, but has anyone seen the commercials for larry flynt's hussler club? at the end when the addy is given, the voice over really overdoes that they are located off BUNKUM road. not to mention, the jackie joyner kersey childrens sports complex is nearly right across the street
 
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